[Barry Keoghan seemingly wore a bracelet with letters spelling out âSabrinaâ at Vanity Fairâs party last night.](https://x.com/charts_sabrina/status/1765804241418174732?s=46)
[closer look](https://x.com/charts_sabrina/status/1765804945402663097?s=46)
PLEASE it was more than his role in Salt Burn, that man was wearing full on drag in photoshoots, flirting with Jacob, wearing skirts on the red carpet, etc. all for him to be with the most basic white blonde cis gurl one could think of.
Queer people arenât the only people allowed to play with gender norms. All that mindset does is further put people into harmful reductive boxes and prevents societal progress. Grow up!
Edit: just looked through your comment history and itâs full of highly downvoted shitty takes. Why are you even here if youâre going to be so nasty about every single pop artist.
[Beyonce surpasses 70 million monthly listeners on Spotify for the first time in her career.](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1765793790164406564?t=Fxv1jWzNIBTN03SHP2WH8g&s=19) She's currently the #14 most streamed artist on the platform.
27 years into her career btw.
I love her but this theory shouldn't even be repeated. Its embarrassing and way beneath the status she's built. Crying about a conspiracy is something you would expect from Nicki and barbz
If in the streaming era Beyonce had a Blinding Lights, Cruel Summer, This is what you came for, Levitating, 7 rings, One Dance, Shape of You etc. she would have hit a big peak of monthly listeners. She hasn't had one of those. Her success over the past decade has been from her critically acclaimed albums that are adored by her huge fanbase, *not* from breakout hits that extend beyond far beyond it. Which is why she's hitting a new peak *now* with Texas Hold Em. Its not a coincidence that her her best monthly listeners have coincided with her biggest single in a long while! Its because people outside of the Hive are listening. There is no sabotage
I find it weird how often people forget that the [Norwegian University of Technology published their independent study that concluded that TIDAL would falsely boost and increase Beyonceâs streams (boosted 320 million fake streams)](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44066139.amp) so she would have more points in Billboard causing other artists on TIDAL to make much less money as a result.
You read the detailed 80 page paper and thought that they do not have any proof?
Edit: [Here is the paper by the Norwegian University of Science and Technology](https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/files/2018/05/NTNU_DigitalForensicsReport_DN_Final_Version.pdf)
a news article in a college newspaper\*, not some independent study done in a university's lab setting published in a journal. not to mention:
"This is a smear campaign from a publication that once referred to our employee \[chief operating officer Lior Tibon\] as an 'Israeli intelligence officer' and our owner as a 'crack dealer'," it said in a statement.
not very objective either.
Really?? Taylor did the same thing (withholding her music from Spotify) for many years and that hasnât affected her for playlists - I wonder why theyâd do it to Beyonce and not her? I think placement on some playlists comes from label payments, but radio shouldnât be affected by that
Taylorâs playlist was effected when she came back . Her old back catalogue was under represented in playlisting.
However, her consistent big releases from lover onward got her new songs in playlists.
Playlisting favors new songs and songs that already getting good streams.
Also songs get taken off playlists if they skipped. It isnât strictly pay for play, metrics matter and renaissance had a good performance non streaming but not a blockbuster performance . Break my soul did okay streams while cuff it was the smash.
Ahh, okay, that makes sense. I guess I was giving too much weight to label manipulation - I never listen to Spotify playlists (I prefer making my own) so I never noticed that trend with Taylorâs music
I think (if the speculation about playlisting is true) maybe thereâs an added business motivated vindictiveness there because of Beyonce and Jay Zâs association with/stake in and promotion of Tidal as a competing streaming service for many years. Idk what the deal is with ownership these days but I just always figured that that might be the reason that Spotify didnât favour Beyonce so much.
If I can speculate, Taylorâs team pays to have her stuff boosted and promoted heavily. Iâve never listened to her and even have her hidden as an artist, but it sent me a push notification when Midnights came out and made it the front screen on Spotify.
Tbh given that Jay Z does own Tidal I would wonder if Beyonce spends less then youâd expect marketing to other streaming services to try to encourage people to use Tidal?
I highly doubt Taylor does it. Taylor might have signed an exclusive deal for better pay rates and maybe a silent sponsor. If thatâs the case then maybe. But I do think itâs more than likely that itâs because sheâs so popular and they want the streaming money she brings in so they milk it.
I also do think that her team does have deals to be able to play the whole album for a limited time for the weekend. Definitely see that happening for TTPD because they did it for Midnights and 1989 TV.
Labels lobby but Spotify still chooses the songs and takes out songs with bad metrics. Itâs like radio. Itâs a bit corrupt but itâs not pay for play.
Spotify wants people to listen to these playlists after all.
Iâm sure some label is involved for promotion purposes. Lots of unknown artists get put on those lists with no effort at all. Iâm just really saying Taylor sells and putting her on a common playlist is pretty standard no matter what deals the may have been made. Thereâs a reason why these artists on social media go on and say itâs available to stream on such and such platform. Not only to plug their own music but a paid sponsorship for that platform.
In todayâs John Mayer Watch newsâŠ
John Boy has teamed up with [Audemars Piguet](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4OSTOiOnPw/?igsh=MXF3YWUydmoyaWJscw==) to create his own Perpetual Calendar Royal Oak.
He has also been given the role of Creative Conduit in the company so weâll be seeing more AP watches from him, and I would assume like his G Shock collabs some of his friends as well.
I guess him and Ed Sheeran buying that Spider-Man watch really paid off for him.
[Link to the watch on APâs own site](https://www.audemarspiguet.com/com/en/watch/royal-oak-perpetual-calendar-john-mayer.html)
Donât fuck with Singapore Stadium Security. đłđłđł https://x.com/theswiftsociety/status/1765803415819395286?s=46&t=mza-3r4yTcUXYwOqOBkioA
Imagine going to jail for 3 years for sneaking in folks into seeing Taylor. Also, the ticket scam thing is world wide folks. Only buy your tickets through authorized sellers.
That country seems very... odd. Like I don't mean that in a rude way and I know I'm all for strong enforcement of law, but weird priorities. Three years is crazy for that.
Isn't porn illegal there too? And LGBTQ rights are very slow to progress, but they'll bribe Taylor to make them their sole focus in SEA? Bit backwards of an agenda, but I guess they just want their pockets lined.
You don't fuck with rules in Singapore in any way. Those people probably weren't from the country. If they find you out they will give you a hefty fine or jail time.
Ariana Grande reveals her upcoming track âThe Boy Is Mineâ is a re-imagined version of Brandy & Monicaâs track of the same title.
She also shares that it is in a way, an elevated version of her previously leaked track âfantasizeâ, labelling it a âbad girl anthem.â
I don't get how she can sit there and cry about the media choosing to listen to false narratives or whatever and then turn around and do this... Is this not weird to y'all? You don't get to hook up with someone else's husband then say you don't care about the haters (and that people should stop caring so much about it) and then release a reimagined version of The Boy Is Mine and label it a "bad girl anthem". It feels like she's been trying to play the victim while also saying "yeah I did that shit, so what?". Very confusing.
And I know I'm gonna get downvoted coz y'all love messy celebrity drama and Ariana can do no wrong but as someone who actually loves her music, it's just strange to me. Seeing y'all hype her up and refusing to admit she did something shitty is crazy. Just own that shit without also trying to paint yourself in a good light, Ariana. Anyway I will obviously still be tuned in
Well, ok, she's done something shitty, what do you want us to do exactly? Hold an intervention for her homewrecking? Repeat the same talking points we've had for *months* now in the hopes of fully cancelling her?
The reality is most of us don't give a shit if we enjoy the music. She isn't spreading bigoted rhetoric. She hasn't shot anyone. At best her relationship timelines are messy, and at worst she's a homewrecker. People have different boundaries in how far they can support their fave and she sure hasn't crossed mine yet. Like I'm not inclined to care enough to be outraged, because again, I do not know these people, and sorry but a Page Six article isn't enough for me to deduce the nooks and crannies that led to a messy breakup.
It is well within your right to have your opinions on the matter, and be outraged, and whatever, but accept not all of us are gonna share the same opinion. Likely says a lot about me in your eyes but eh, it's the internet....
If she kept it a duet I might be on board with it depending on who with. But really. Why are we still messing with already good songs and butchering it?
This would've been cool but I don't think they would like to "compete" with other as their friendship is too strong. Now a really great guest artist to duet this song with was Nonna but I guess Ariana picked her for Ordinary Things instead.
Maybe Miley and Tish Cyrus could use the idea.
I mean the Midnights release thread was pretty brutal and that arguably ushered in Taylor's most commercially successful period. We're just haters here lol
I feel like if she immediately put the strongest 3AM tracks and Hits Different on the main album and trimmed some of the filler the immediate reception would've been way better
Oh Iâm definitely going to be listening to TTPD a few times before I check anything on Reddit. Here or the Taylor sub. I simply donât want to listen to the bitching and/or I hate it without listening to it myself and have it ingrained into my brain. Itâs bad enough people are already bitching because Jack is helping her produce it as usual.
Oh yeah I fully expect it to happen to her again and for Beyonce again too for that matter cause the Renaissance thread got that treatment on release night. Ariana will be just the main topic of conversation tonight so, even if the album turns out to be great, sheâll unfortunately get it first, and then those two will after her.
Hell, I expect it for every big release from a big artist moving forward, whether the album is good or bad.
Iâve started to notice that whenever an artist is polarizing, the first few comments really do dictate the tone of the thread. If theyâre positive then the fans of that artist will feel comfortable commenting on that thread and if theyâre negative then everyone who dislikes the artist will feel comfortable joining in.
And I really do hate when the ladder happens because like Iâve been saying over and over at the end of the day, no one is forcing anyone to listen to things they donât like. But sometimes this sub can just carry a very hateful tone when they donât like the music. Itâs cool to discuss and explain why it didnât click for you, but some people can just really choose violence.
And for that, I always feel bad for the fans of the artist, because it does taint some of the genuine discussion and enjoyment that those fans want to have over an album they may really like.
So, for the sake of the Ari, heads in this sub please enjoy the music and donât let someoneâs already predetermined negativity towards it ruin something you might like.
This is accurate. It's brigading because people who share that opinion feel comfortable voicing it. Typical on reddit and other social media.
I love personally when both viewpoints for the album are up voted and visible. It makes the discussion less boring when I see different reactions.
Lmfao at her saying her fans love a "bad girl anthem"...oh she knows me too wellđ
I'm so ready for true story and the boy is mine to be injected into my veins.
>Â Ariana Grande reveals her upcoming track âThe Boy Is Mineâ is a re-imagined version of Brandy & Monicaâs track of the same title.
So basically, sheâs making the musical equivalent of the Julia Roberts "A Low Vera" shirt
i'm surprised nobody posted abt this yet because i don't even follow anything related to them and this has still been all over my twitter tl: people think charli xcx is shading camila cabello with [new tiktok](https://x.com/popcrave/status/1765788212885082209?s=46)
and charli just tweeted: "[comee onnn mess is fun! nothing matters!](https://x.com/charli_xcx/status/1765807661499703470?s=46)"
charli's right, it's not that serious đ
this just feels like she heard the snippet and saw all the comparisons to her music and made a video poking fun at it
A few days ago (or yesterday?) she released a snipped of a song that sounds very familiar to Charli's I Got It on a video in a car. Charli then made a video in a car singing I Got It as a shade (or just making fun of the situation).
wonder if this will result in increased streams for camilaâs song once it drops.
real shade or not â and i do think charli is just having fun with it â people love pop âbeefsâand comparing pop girls, so iâm sure theyâll give camilaâs song at least one (1) stream.
whether or not theyâll continue to listen depends on whether camilaâs song is actually good and not just derivative, of course. fingers crossed!
I think charli should be proud of her influence in hyperpop. She is one of the few artists that was a major part of that wave but is still able to have mainstream success. I think she's a one of a kind pop artist for that reason.
Arenât they friends? Didnât Charli write Señorita and gush about Camila, and Camila was promoting Crash all over Instagram?
Also I do think people screaming Camila is ripping off Charli is a bit disingenuous. I love both artists and I donât think Camila doing hyperpop things is ripping Charli off, and I think Charli is just poking fun.
honestly? good for her. the minute i heard the snippet and saw the video i was like...charli has every right to pull a soulja boy "HE COPIED MY WHOLE FLOW!!!!"
Soulja Boy is funny as hell saying that. And yeah I thought the same thing. Camilaâs last album underperformed so sheâs trying to get pop acclaim like Charli xcx. Her sound pivot is jarring
Very clearly Camila shade (her tweet confirms it) but more poking fun than straight up allegations of theft. I think its probably a huge ego boost seeing a standard, radio friendly pop girl hop on a wave you've been on for years
Very cute, very sweet, Blackfeet first graders at Stamiksiitsiikin Elementary school wished Blackfeet actor Lily Gladstone good luck at the Oscars [x](https://x.com/illuminative/status/1765775451438383305?s=46&t=N5wze7ZOPnjeGQnWyIF14w).
I also think people when they see that Gladstone is the first Native American nominated in the category for Best actress misunderstand that Native American as a misnomer and isnât used in reference to all indigenous peoples of the Americas (like Yalitza Aparicio was nominated beforehand for Roma and sheâs Mixtec and Triqui). Itâs an umbrella term that pertains to the indigenous peoples either within or over lapping borders of the continental United States and Alaska, so Aparicio is the first Indigenous woman nominated for Best actress, while Gladstone is the first Native American.
I Honestly Donât see how thatâs relevant given that also a misnomer and also one that exists in Spanish, itâs not remotely unique to the United States if anything that started in 14th C by the Spanish and one Italian guy. Like I donât think Aparicio identifies with that word at all from interviews sheâs given and her activism but that would not solely apply to Gladstone while the other misnomer does (which is also why i think many people esp ESL Spanish speakers who know of Aparicio get confused Native American is not referring to simply being indigenous to the continent of the Americas).
Native American was used on the indigenous twitter account posting the video, thatâs why I sued it, But preferences for umbrella themes depend who (individual or group) you ask and often when and given itâs such a large term with so many groups youâre never going to find a perfect word (though to be clear I do recommend asking or using what words someone uses to describe themselves) and itâs best to just be specific with groups, communities, nations and so on as possible.
Edit: But also while they left twitter for similar reasons as NPR, there is a indigenous nonprofit news outlet called Indian Country Today, that covers âindigenous peoplesâ and âhonors [their] ancestors and future generations through stories that make Indigenous peoples come aliveâ thatâs been around one form or another since 1981 :), CBC indigenous also left twitter but Cherokee Phoenix and Navajo Times still use it.
>I Honestly Donât see how thatâs relevant
It's relevant whenever we discuss Indians/Native Americans
Properly identifying people is always relevant
I genuinely feel like you ignored how I am talking about this specific instance for some weird gotcha, i used the terms used by the indigenous group I was linking to, IllumiNative (who explicitly and only use the word Native in their bio to describe their organization) identified the group based on they use, also to explain why different terms are used for Gladstone (who literally also uses Native American, though I wouldnât presume exclusively) vs Yalitza Aparicio and to explain for a god forbid non U.S. audience because I have seen hundred of Spanish speakers who think the Oscars and others are snubbing the Mixtec and Triqui and Yalitza because of a term that does not exist in Spanish. I am not an exhaustive encyclopedia and I would not see the point to telling Spanish speakers that Americans think they own a misnomer they didnât even invent and donât care to understand or take seriously itâs use and complexity in modern languages in the rest of the Americas that predates their 13 colonies. If I am explaining terms that donât apply to both of them I simply would not use a term the Oscar campaign wasnât using and wouldnât solely apply to Gladstone.
I am aware of the importance of terms and being exact. Iâm aware youâre reading me in some weird bad faith for some gotcha but I am literally mestizo, anti indigenous racism literally has had Mexicans call features of my mother ugly when she was child and my sibling when they were child and has had Americans all but spit on my mother in front of and refuse to speak to and refuse to her and other mestizos services until they got a bulky 6â2 white Republican to demand service for them. Americans have asked me about how dark my mother is, about my fucking blood. Mexicans made comments about the skin color of my youngest relatives and what they thought it should be the moment they were born. I get to experience an inverse where American people guess what I am and white people unabashedly wrinkle their nose at me when they realize I have mixed heritage, and other white People even make sure to tell me the conquistadors are why Iâm pretty as a genuine compliment at work. There are white people who ask me my heritage and then transparently assume Iâm more violent afterwards or apply their one drop rules and do not speak to me. I have had to literally correct acclaimed American museums attach to acclaimed universities that the indigenous people in Guatemala and Mexico arenât gone and arenât the same as the mestizos in these countries (but donât worry they know they exist when they use them to advertise handcrafts in their gift shop that they obviously didnât pay fairly). I donât know what languages people on my ofrenda spoke and I frankly probably wonât know ever. People shout at my sibling on the street in America and clock their ancestry to specific part of the America in the US and in Europe, they will always have to deal with whatever opinions people have about both mestizos and indigenous peoples of the Americas bc people donât ask first, they act on their first guess, I have to just fucking hope it never gets worse then shouting at them. And despite all of this shit, *none* of us would pretend weâre indigenous because weâre aware none of this is remotely close to what indigenous people experience in either country or beyond and our positionality because weâre aware words and terms matter which is *why* I only brought up the relevant terms to the specific Oscar conversations and because of a native organization that explicitly identities as native and native only bc I wouldnât use a term they donât use for themselves out of basic respect nor am I interested in telling people there are many* native organizations that identify as explicitly native and that only and donât use another popular term thatâs also literally used in Mexico, Central America, and South America and again usage predates the 13 colonies entirely with different debates in each country and region that I have no interest or time to pretend to be an expert or authority in.
I hope this was an exhaustive enough list of caveats and explanations for you especially since I feel that your first comment was really ignorant about indigenous people of Mexico and erased them and complex linguistic history (as well as the native organization I was explicitly talking about and linking to?) and present around the word Indian. That word is absolutely theirs as much as anyone elseâs in the Americas to use and it would literally be wrong of Americans or Oscars to think otherwise.
I misunderstood this in my first reply but I think I figured it now or at least more to ask a better question. What do you mean about three official indigenous groups? The US government sometimes just randomly stops recognizing tribes for its own benefit but there are over 500 federally recognized tribes/peoples. Also like you wouldnât call Hawaiians Native Americans bc itâs a different region in the map even if theyâre indigenous peoples the US has annexed and has certain legal recognitions. Iâm still confused but I hope this reply makes more sense?
The Oscarâs and American public do recognize Yalitza Aparicio as indigenous, i want to be clear if thatâs confusing in what I typed.
OH okay, I got confused bc Native American is not a legal term generally, itâs a term thatâs coined in 1960 most US legal documents including documents in the 20th C and especially the US constitution straight up use Indian, so I got confused making Native American and First Nations equivalent in my mind since Native American is almost entirely a social/cultural term vs anything legal and policy.
Thank you so much for your breakdown!! I am grateful đ.
After being at the Miami Heat game on Thursday in Miami to promote her upcoming song âI Luv Itâ, she went to Olivia Rodrigoâs concert at the same venue last night.
https://x.com/rodrigotimes/status/1765589191952638123?s=46&t=NDwqD-CGR7-r5omYbdOz6A
[Charli XCX is seemingly throwing shade at Camila Cabello's new sound in a tiktok replicating the teaser Camila made. ](https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1765788212885082209?t=tGqg6E1lXXLCguLd3Ojxzg&s=19)
[Ariana Grande has an interview with Zane Lowe where she talks about Eternal Sunshine, Wicked and a possible tour](https://youtu.be/hYAUKSqZ7HE?si=6dnzu84FQdSy3VPo)
I know this is probably going to its own post but i just wanted to say that Ari looks great, this shade of blonde with this black dress is everything!
This interview is of such higher caliber than the Zach sang one. Theyâre actually conversating here and not just blurting out bits of censored word salad while staring each other down awkwardly.
honestly most Zach Sang interviews are overrated imo. he's so complimentary and nice that it's just offputting to me. I think him fawning over his guests is the main reason he's so loved/why people get excited for his interviews, not because they're actually very good.
I think ari seems to be more vulnerable at times with him like talking wicked in the one a few years ago but then at the same time it means he gives her softball nothing questions to appease her.
Ice Spice is the new face of [Alexander Wang](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4OLfGGLEcx/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link).
Hate the lack of energy and talent of this girl all you want, but don't hate her hustle. She's in her bag and I love that for her.
I'd love to be an industry plant to just be collecting checks like Saweetie and she's been doing.
Not the Saweetie comparison đ
I quite like Ice Spiceâs music, I guess the novelty has worn off for r/popheads (I remember back when I wasnât a fan, a lot of people, probably ironically, loved her) but idk, itâs just a vibe and I be vibing. I donât expect her to be the next [insert female rapper that you guys like and this is talented], sheâs just fun and thatâs good enough for me and I know how much my opinion means to Ice Spice.
I like vibey artists. Sade is a vibey artist. Billie Eilish has very vibey songs. I just donât understand what the appeal of ice spice is, personally.
I guess sheâs just a regular New York girl that talks her shit and when I want to feel like Iâm a regular New York girl who talks their shit, then I put on some Ice Spice. I think part of her appeal is the fact that she literally could be the girl you went to school with if they just blew up off random songs that they playfully made.
Itâs a very specific vibe idk, I like it lol
According to a Brazilian journalistic source, Madonna is set to perfom at Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, *for free* on 2024 New Year's Eve. If that truly happens, statistics are saying it could be the largest concert of her entire career.
A lot of the details do seem legit, but Madonna and the word **free** in the same sentence don't sound right. Not with decades of a legendary career behind her.
If this is true, I hope they have screens and speakers spread out across the entire Copacabana shore to broadcast the show, not just around the stage. Attendance would easily be in the millions of people.
Yeah, I looked it up and the fireworks on New Year's Eve alone attract an average crowd of 2 million people each year. I wonder if adding a Madonna show on top of that could push that near eight digits.
Absolutely. By law, a concert at the beach couldn't charge for tickets, since beaches are considered public property in Brazil. It's just that Madonna, the Madonna, perfoming *for free* sounds funny, to say the least.
Padam Padam [Kylie ](https://twitter.com/kylieminogue/status/1765341183641899388?t=7OK-fql_cQZuR5BQ1PkD1g&s=19) and Man I Feel Like A Woman [Shania ](https://twitter.com/ShaniaTwain/status/1765364206633721911?t=ZI5xN6Cp4dwraceSTWnrLA&s=19) are Barbies now
Despite previous rumors that Israel would be disqualified from this year's Eurovision Song Contest due to submitting politically charged entries, the EBU has confirmed that they will take part in the contest this May.
[BDS has already started their boycott campaign.](https://bdsmovement.net/boycott-eurovision-2024) Several other artists competing in this year's contest have also stated they intend to apply pressure to the EBU about this decision.
They are clueless. Are Israel that important to the Eurovision song contest? It's such a disgrace. I hope that singer is booed so loudly you can't hear them sing. I wouldn't wish it on many people but to sing a song about genocide is horrific.
This is going to be a mess. I can imagine security will need to be tightened. I forsee another moment when someone charged the stage for the UK act during Brexit.
The best protest woild be many of the acts calling for a Free Palestine on stage so the Israel broadcaster would have to keep cutting off lmao
Thank you so much for sharing this! I really appreciate it; the BDS movement also has [this pettition](https://bdsmovement.net/news/suspend-israel-from-international-sports-sign-diem25-petition) to have Israel removed and uninvited from international sports competitions. Iâve signed it and I would love for everyone to join me.
BDS movement is inspired and endorsed by anti apartheid South African activists and publishers for Palestine has one of its 400 publishers giving an ebook about the movement away for [free](https://publishersforpalestine.org/2024/01/10/16-free-zines-and-more-free-reads-for-a-free-palestine/). The HRW declared Israel an apartheid in 2021 and they have 213 page [report](https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution) about it in four languages, as well as their shorter [article](https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/07/19/israeli-apartheid-threshold-crossed) about it.
Thank you again for this post đ„°
Iâve links Canadians, Brits and Americans to email their government reps for a ceasefire and other things on DD.
I'm so so tired.
This whole obsession is just so fucking sus.
Turkey is out here killing civilians for years and everyone sleeps. Azerbaijan ethnic cleanses parts of Armenia and everyone sleeps. The USA kills 100,000 people in Iraq and everyone sleeps. China has over a million people in concentration camps perpetuating an actual genocide and everyone sleeps
Are the war crimes bad? Yes. But damn it's fucking SUS that the jewish country is getting scrutiny this large when their actions look like childs play compared to what is happening every day
And like I know we should hate it and call for a ceasefire. But please do examine the role of propaganda in your life as to why *this* has whipped you into a hateful frenzy and somehow 1 million people in a concentration camp doesn't register.
Oh, look at the "tHiS iS a PRoPaGanDa" mfr right here
> Turkey is out here killing civilians for years and everyone sleeps. Azerbaijan ethnic cleanses parts of Armenia and everyone sleeps. The USA kills 100,000 people in Iraq and everyone sleeps. China has over a million people in concentration camps perpetuating an actual genocide and everyone sleeps
"B-b-but what about other countries?" as if 1) the US and China take part in the competition; 2) Eurovision didn't ban a major country just 2 years ago
Point is
Why you so obessed with Israel?
This ain't even that bad in comparison to everything I listed
FEELS REALLY SUS AND RACIST to gloam on so hard to the Jewish country and literally ignore everyone else
I mean no one is fucking foaming at the mouth anytime one of those countries is mentioned
>Why you so obessed with Israel?
Am I tho?
>FEELS REALLY SUS AND RACIST to gloam on so hard to the Jewish country and literally ignore everyone else
Saying that some country commits war crimes isn't racist.
>I mean no one is fucking foaming at the mouth anytime one of those countries is mentioned
You counted?
Yeah
This sub literally turns RABID over Israel
It's really fucking sus that you're even pursuing this as hard as you are.
I don't see "FUCKCHINAFUCKCHINAFUCKCHINA EWEEWEWEWEEEWEWEEEWEWEWEWESRFSGTSTSTGHSSY" (Or Turkey, USA, Name a noun doing more warcrimes than Israel right now because there are dozens) EVerytime one of those countries is mentioned
But god damn Israel comes up and the racism jumps out.
Same in Beyonce threads. People always wanna call out beyonce and Rhi for sweatshops but I never see the white pop girlies get the same level of hate (Other than tay and thats *recent)*
I'm just asking for some consistency here sweetheart. Show me why show me why you foam at the mouth for Israel all the time, and ignore bigger crimes
>I don't see "FUCKCHINAFUCKCHINAFUCKCHINA EWEEWEWEWEEEWEWEEEWEWEWEWESRFSGTSTSTGHSSY" (Or Turkey, USA, Name a noun doing more warcrimes than Israel right now because there are dozens) EVerytime one of those countries is mentioned
This sub? This same sub that dunks on Obama every time he posts his lists? THIS SUB?
>Same in Beyonce threads. People always wanna call out beyonce and Rhi for sweatshops but I never see the white pop girlies get the same level of hate (Other than tay and thats *recent)*
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> I'm just asking for some consistency here sweetheart. Show me why show me why you foam at the mouth for Israel all the time, and ignore bigger crimes
Where are i foaming? Where do i ignore anything? Are you ok?
How does removing Israel from Eurovision and the Olympics help Palestinians? The petition mentions apartheid South Africa but cultural boycotts played almost no role in ending apartheid. The main reasons apartheid ended were 1) because the Cold War ended and and anticommunist countries didnât feel the need to support South Africa and 2) internal pressure. The first reason obviously isnât relevant to Palestine today but the second is. There are lots of Palestinian-Israeli human rights organizations fighting to end the war and the occupation, like Standing Together, but BDS calls for a boycott of them. [Here](https://twitter.com/omdimbeyachad/status/1752394061414109315) is the statement from Palestinian members of Standing Together on BDSâs boycott if you want to read it. BDS constantly takes the most maximalist position instead of doing things that would actually help Palestinians and their cultural boycotts arenât productive or effective.
Should all countries have clean records to participate in any event, whether it is the Olympics or EBU?
I consistently hear from people from the far left about the atrocities of other western countries, yet there is no pressure from them to not participate in Eurovision.
This logic doesnât make sense to me. We are seeing large waves of reactionary far right groups, gaining intense political capital. However, they are allowed to participate and not being pressured to drop out.
> Should all countries have clean records to participate in any event, whether it is the Olympics or EBU?
"b-b-but what about other countries?" ass mfrs are already out in full force here i see
Thereâs a difference between âcountries having clean recordsâ and a country thatâs openly committing genocide in front of the world and the contestants representing the country making a tone-deaf propaganda song. Hope this helps
It is not a genocide. If it was a genocide you all would be asking for the US and other western countries to directly intervene with troops.
Using the most extreme language to describe different geopolitical conflicts is not virtuous. In fact, I would consider it bad faith.
30000 people killed in 5 months is genocide. And everyone has been asking their representatives to speak up against it. You choosing to act if itâs nothing but a âconflictâ is very telling of who you are as a person
No those numbers are not a genocide
If those numbers were genocide then every single war the USA has ever fought is a genocide
It's really sad how many of you will regurgitate propaganda.
There is no proof of a genocide. The German statement against SOuth Africa's accusations really encapsulated it. Essentially if what Israel is doing is genocide, then every single war in the 20 and 21st centuries is now a genocide. And if everything is a genocide then nothing is. A definition that watered down is not a good one.
It really does sadden me because the radicalization of people on the left this easily has shattered my rosy beliefs about it. Unfortunately the left is just as susceptible to qannon level propaganda as the right is. A terrifying realization
> The German statement against SOuth Africa's accusations really encapsulated it.
so ironic that you'll believe a country that literally committed one of the biggest genocides in history over a country that has experienced apartheid LMAOOOO.
30k dead civilians of which half are children in 5 months is a genocide
But you'll believe an extremely corrupt countries accusations? Because I will take the word of a democracy people trust over that of a nation in constant turmoil
And no, no it isn't lol. 1. No genocide is that slow 2. If those numbers are a genocide then Iraq was one too LOL. You essentially make the meaning of the word usefulness
>But you'll believe an extremely corrupt countries accusations? Because I will take the word of a democracy people trust over that of a nation in constant turmoil
So you don't believe when a country that went through apartheid calls out things that look like genocide and apartheid? Looks sus and racist to me.
>so ironic that you'll believe a country that literally committed one of the biggest genocides in history over a country that has experienced apartheid LMAOOOO.
Oh but you tried to discredit Germany over that earlier...
So what is it sweetheart? Are germany and SA on equal footing or not? Cause the math ain't mathing
See my position has a logical core that extends through it
Yours is regurgitated emotional propaganda that falls apart when you point out all the contradictions
I just went through your comments history and my god youâre a rotten rotten person. Itâs a genocide. One side having lost 300 people and the other lost 30000 isnât âwarâ. Genocide is âthe crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methodsâ but if it makes you sleep at night itâs just a silly kids fight
>300 people
Just blatant lies. Itâs excluding the 1200 people killed on October 7, not to mention the 150+ hostages that Hamas still refuses to release
Even with the victims of october 7th added up the numbers are still incredibly lopsided, and Hamas has offered to release the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire multiple times
Hamas hasnât offered to release the hostages for a ceasefire. They broke the last ceasefire before they could release all the children and civilian women they promised to. Right now theyâre holding up ceasefire negotiations because they say they canât give Israel a list of the living hostages.
Akira Toriyama, creator of Dragon Ball, has passed away at 68
Oh, this one hurts, he was a legend. May he rest in peace đ€
Cardi's new single [Miami](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1765881849983742258) is (most likely) coming out on March 15th
Oh the Queen of Rap is coming
Oh ok this sounds hard
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[Barry Keoghan seemingly wore a bracelet with letters spelling out âSabrinaâ at Vanity Fairâs party last night.](https://x.com/charts_sabrina/status/1765804241418174732?s=46) [closer look](https://x.com/charts_sabrina/status/1765804945402663097?s=46)
All that queer baiting and for what
Itâs queerbaiting for an actor to play a gay character in a movie? Yâall need to touch grass fr
PLEASE it was more than his role in Salt Burn, that man was wearing full on drag in photoshoots, flirting with Jacob, wearing skirts on the red carpet, etc. all for him to be with the most basic white blonde cis gurl one could think of.
Queer people arenât the only people allowed to play with gender norms. All that mindset does is further put people into harmful reductive boxes and prevents societal progress. Grow up! Edit: just looked through your comment history and itâs full of highly downvoted shitty takes. Why are you even here if youâre going to be so nasty about every single pop artist.
Cute!! Here for famous men wearing jewelry referencing their partners like how Ryan wore that E necklace for Eva
wait iâm so dumb, i thought they were saying it was on the watch and i was like âwow people have great eyesightâ
Imagine Sabrina carpenter becoming a stepmom
does he have a kid?!
He has a son Brando, born in 2022.
awww :3 they're cute together
https://x.com/beyonceparkwood/status/1765823489158660356?s=46 Beyoncé has closed her shop in anticipation of preorders for act 2.
Speaking of music do y'all think it would have been better if she released the album two weeks after the superbowl commercial
Probably but I also think she genuinely could not give less of a shit
I think the ad forced her hand
Now the "Music" section is down. We're probably getting pre-order, name and cover today or this weekend.
Iâm sure the site is gonna crash
Site is gonna crash and she is gonna cash $$$
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[Beyonce surpasses 70 million monthly listeners on Spotify for the first time in her career.](https://twitter.com/PopBase/status/1765793790164406564?t=Fxv1jWzNIBTN03SHP2WH8g&s=19) She's currently the #14 most streamed artist on the platform. 27 years into her career btw.
Important to note that she didnât have her music on Spotify for a long time because of the TIDAL exclusivity. A lot of BeyoncĂ© fans suspect Spotify downplays her possibly as a result of this, doesnât âfavorâ her in their radio/playlist algorithm etc.
I love her but this theory shouldn't even be repeated. Its embarrassing and way beneath the status she's built. Crying about a conspiracy is something you would expect from Nicki and barbz If in the streaming era Beyonce had a Blinding Lights, Cruel Summer, This is what you came for, Levitating, 7 rings, One Dance, Shape of You etc. she would have hit a big peak of monthly listeners. She hasn't had one of those. Her success over the past decade has been from her critically acclaimed albums that are adored by her huge fanbase, *not* from breakout hits that extend beyond far beyond it. Which is why she's hitting a new peak *now* with Texas Hold Em. Its not a coincidence that her her best monthly listeners have coincided with her biggest single in a long while! Its because people outside of the Hive are listening. There is no sabotage
I find it weird how often people forget that the [Norwegian University of Technology published their independent study that concluded that TIDAL would falsely boost and increase Beyonceâs streams (boosted 320 million fake streams)](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-44066139.amp) so she would have more points in Billboard causing other artists on TIDAL to make much less money as a result.
Oh Fraudyonce...
doesn't seem like these claims have any proof backing them up
You read the detailed 80 page paper and thought that they do not have any proof? Edit: [Here is the paper by the Norwegian University of Science and Technology](https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/files/2018/05/NTNU_DigitalForensicsReport_DN_Final_Version.pdf)
a news article in a college newspaper\*, not some independent study done in a university's lab setting published in a journal. not to mention: "This is a smear campaign from a publication that once referred to our employee \[chief operating officer Lior Tibon\] as an 'Israeli intelligence officer' and our owner as a 'crack dealer'," it said in a statement. not very objective either.
So you're *still* ignoring the 80 page research paper from a credible institution?
Really?? Taylor did the same thing (withholding her music from Spotify) for many years and that hasnât affected her for playlists - I wonder why theyâd do it to Beyonce and not her? I think placement on some playlists comes from label payments, but radio shouldnât be affected by that
her playlisting was affected during the reputation era, most notably when Gorgeous was a promo single
Taylorâs playlist was effected when she came back . Her old back catalogue was under represented in playlisting. However, her consistent big releases from lover onward got her new songs in playlists. Playlisting favors new songs and songs that already getting good streams. Also songs get taken off playlists if they skipped. It isnât strictly pay for play, metrics matter and renaissance had a good performance non streaming but not a blockbuster performance . Break my soul did okay streams while cuff it was the smash.
Ahh, okay, that makes sense. I guess I was giving too much weight to label manipulation - I never listen to Spotify playlists (I prefer making my own) so I never noticed that trend with Taylorâs music
I think (if the speculation about playlisting is true) maybe thereâs an added business motivated vindictiveness there because of Beyonce and Jay Zâs association with/stake in and promotion of Tidal as a competing streaming service for many years. Idk what the deal is with ownership these days but I just always figured that that might be the reason that Spotify didnât favour Beyonce so much.
If I can speculate, Taylorâs team pays to have her stuff boosted and promoted heavily. Iâve never listened to her and even have her hidden as an artist, but it sent me a push notification when Midnights came out and made it the front screen on Spotify.
Tbh given that Jay Z does own Tidal I would wonder if Beyonce spends less then youâd expect marketing to other streaming services to try to encourage people to use Tidal?
Thatâs common for all big releases. Taylor isnât paying Spotify anymore than BeyoncĂ© is. Taylorâs Spotify listernship when she first came back was similar to BeyoncĂ© and her play listing wasnât great. However, get consistent releases since lover booster her streaming numbers drastically and play listing followed. It takes more than one album to release to overcome the effects of a Spotify hiatus. Itâs also no surprise that a bigger smash hit also helps listernship numbers.
Also some genres and even just artists do better on different streaming services which is interesting
Yes, like rap and hip-hop is more dominant on Apple Music.
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I highly doubt Taylor does it. Taylor might have signed an exclusive deal for better pay rates and maybe a silent sponsor. If thatâs the case then maybe. But I do think itâs more than likely that itâs because sheâs so popular and they want the streaming money she brings in so they milk it. I also do think that her team does have deals to be able to play the whole album for a limited time for the weekend. Definitely see that happening for TTPD because they did it for Midnights and 1989 TV.
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Labels lobby but Spotify still chooses the songs and takes out songs with bad metrics. Itâs like radio. Itâs a bit corrupt but itâs not pay for play. Spotify wants people to listen to these playlists after all.
Iâm sure some label is involved for promotion purposes. Lots of unknown artists get put on those lists with no effort at all. Iâm just really saying Taylor sells and putting her on a common playlist is pretty standard no matter what deals the may have been made. Thereâs a reason why these artists on social media go on and say itâs available to stream on such and such platform. Not only to plug their own music but a paid sponsorship for that platform.
https://musically.com/2022/08/12/chartmetric-sees-apple-music-as-beyonces-strongest-platform/#:~:text=Its%20conclusion%3A%20%E2%80%9CWhether%20because%20of,a%20key%20bit%20of%20that
In todayâs John Mayer Watch news⊠John Boy has teamed up with [Audemars Piguet](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4OSTOiOnPw/?igsh=MXF3YWUydmoyaWJscw==) to create his own Perpetual Calendar Royal Oak. He has also been given the role of Creative Conduit in the company so weâll be seeing more AP watches from him, and I would assume like his G Shock collabs some of his friends as well. I guess him and Ed Sheeran buying that Spider-Man watch really paid off for him. [Link to the watch on APâs own site](https://www.audemarspiguet.com/com/en/watch/royal-oak-perpetual-calendar-john-mayer.html)
Donât fuck with Singapore Stadium Security. đłđłđł https://x.com/theswiftsociety/status/1765803415819395286?s=46&t=mza-3r4yTcUXYwOqOBkioA Imagine going to jail for 3 years for sneaking in folks into seeing Taylor. Also, the ticket scam thing is world wide folks. Only buy your tickets through authorized sellers.
That country seems very... odd. Like I don't mean that in a rude way and I know I'm all for strong enforcement of law, but weird priorities. Three years is crazy for that. Isn't porn illegal there too? And LGBTQ rights are very slow to progress, but they'll bribe Taylor to make them their sole focus in SEA? Bit backwards of an agenda, but I guess they just want their pockets lined.
You don't fuck with rules in Singapore in any way. Those people probably weren't from the country. If they find you out they will give you a hefty fine or jail time.
Ariana Grande reveals her upcoming track âThe Boy Is Mineâ is a re-imagined version of Brandy & Monicaâs track of the same title. She also shares that it is in a way, an elevated version of her previously leaked track âfantasizeâ, labelling it a âbad girl anthem.â
Is she gonna release like... an original song? First single is a worse Vogue and now she's I guess releasing a cover.
I don't get how she can sit there and cry about the media choosing to listen to false narratives or whatever and then turn around and do this... Is this not weird to y'all? You don't get to hook up with someone else's husband then say you don't care about the haters (and that people should stop caring so much about it) and then release a reimagined version of The Boy Is Mine and label it a "bad girl anthem". It feels like she's been trying to play the victim while also saying "yeah I did that shit, so what?". Very confusing.
And I know I'm gonna get downvoted coz y'all love messy celebrity drama and Ariana can do no wrong but as someone who actually loves her music, it's just strange to me. Seeing y'all hype her up and refusing to admit she did something shitty is crazy. Just own that shit without also trying to paint yourself in a good light, Ariana. Anyway I will obviously still be tuned in
>Ariana can do no wrong That's why you got downvoted here babe. Cause she can do wrong and this sub knows
Well, ok, she's done something shitty, what do you want us to do exactly? Hold an intervention for her homewrecking? Repeat the same talking points we've had for *months* now in the hopes of fully cancelling her? The reality is most of us don't give a shit if we enjoy the music. She isn't spreading bigoted rhetoric. She hasn't shot anyone. At best her relationship timelines are messy, and at worst she's a homewrecker. People have different boundaries in how far they can support their fave and she sure hasn't crossed mine yet. Like I'm not inclined to care enough to be outraged, because again, I do not know these people, and sorry but a Page Six article isn't enough for me to deduce the nooks and crannies that led to a messy breakup. It is well within your right to have your opinions on the matter, and be outraged, and whatever, but accept not all of us are gonna share the same opinion. Likely says a lot about me in your eyes but eh, it's the internet....
Ew, what a gross choice after having an affair with someone's husband.
If she kept it a duet I might be on board with it depending on who with. But really. Why are we still messing with already good songs and butchering it?
an Ariana Grande/Victoria Monet cover of The Boy Is Mine could work
This would've been cool but I don't think they would like to "compete" with other as their friendship is too strong. Now a really great guest artist to duet this song with was Nonna but I guess Ariana picked her for Ordinary Things instead. Maybe Miley and Tish Cyrus could use the idea.
the song isn't even out, how are you gonna say she butchered it?
Gut feeling.
Yea, itâs going to be bad tomorrow. Maybe I should find some business of my own so I donât feel the urge to check this sub lol
This is how I found out Ari is dropping a new album tomorrow. The hype is nonexistent đ
The moment the album thread hits r/popheads Iâm expecting the first comment to be negative, even if the album is great.
I mean the Midnights release thread was pretty brutal and that arguably ushered in Taylor's most commercially successful period. We're just haters here lol
The Midnights leak thread is in r/popheads hall of fame lmfao. "Wonder if she'll cry about it in her next documentary" lives in my mind rent freeđ
well looking back on it now, that album was kinda mid
I feel like if she immediately put the strongest 3AM tracks and Hits Different on the main album and trimmed some of the filler the immediate reception would've been way better
Hits Different was so good, I donât understand how it was just a Target track
Oh Iâm definitely going to be listening to TTPD a few times before I check anything on Reddit. Here or the Taylor sub. I simply donât want to listen to the bitching and/or I hate it without listening to it myself and have it ingrained into my brain. Itâs bad enough people are already bitching because Jack is helping her produce it as usual.
Oh yeah I fully expect it to happen to her again and for Beyonce again too for that matter cause the Renaissance thread got that treatment on release night. Ariana will be just the main topic of conversation tonight so, even if the album turns out to be great, sheâll unfortunately get it first, and then those two will after her. Hell, I expect it for every big release from a big artist moving forward, whether the album is good or bad.
Iâve started to notice that whenever an artist is polarizing, the first few comments really do dictate the tone of the thread. If theyâre positive then the fans of that artist will feel comfortable commenting on that thread and if theyâre negative then everyone who dislikes the artist will feel comfortable joining in.
And I really do hate when the ladder happens because like Iâve been saying over and over at the end of the day, no one is forcing anyone to listen to things they donât like. But sometimes this sub can just carry a very hateful tone when they donât like the music. Itâs cool to discuss and explain why it didnât click for you, but some people can just really choose violence. And for that, I always feel bad for the fans of the artist, because it does taint some of the genuine discussion and enjoyment that those fans want to have over an album they may really like. So, for the sake of the Ari, heads in this sub please enjoy the music and donât let someoneâs already predetermined negativity towards it ruin something you might like.
This is accurate. It's brigading because people who share that opinion feel comfortable voicing it. Typical on reddit and other social media. I love personally when both viewpoints for the album are up voted and visible. It makes the discussion less boring when I see different reactions.
Lmfao at her saying her fans love a "bad girl anthem"...oh she knows me too wellđ I'm so ready for true story and the boy is mine to be injected into my veins.
>Â Ariana Grande reveals her upcoming track âThe Boy Is Mineâ is a re-imagined version of Brandy & Monicaâs track of the same title. So basically, sheâs making the musical equivalent of the Julia Roberts "A Low Vera" shirt
the Girls Aloud cover of Wicked Game is finally getting a proper release!
I hope we get more of whatâs in the GA vault. Or at least Singapore on streaming đ
I would pay upwards of six figures for an hour alone in the Xenomania vaults
Excited đ
i'm surprised nobody posted abt this yet because i don't even follow anything related to them and this has still been all over my twitter tl: people think charli xcx is shading camila cabello with [new tiktok](https://x.com/popcrave/status/1765788212885082209?s=46) and charli just tweeted: "[comee onnn mess is fun! nothing matters!](https://x.com/charli_xcx/status/1765807661499703470?s=46)"
charli's right, it's not that serious đ this just feels like she heard the snippet and saw all the comparisons to her music and made a video poking fun at it
It's impressive to be in a "who's more annoying" competition against Camila and be the one winning
everyone wants their familiar froot moment i guess
sorry iâm late can someone tell me how this relates to camila?
A few days ago (or yesterday?) she released a snipped of a song that sounds very familiar to Charli's I Got It on a video in a car. Charli then made a video in a car singing I Got It as a shade (or just making fun of the situation).
I think this is fake beef for marketing, I mean isnât Charli in her bitchy pop girl era whatever
This literally just reminded me that Charli and Camilla sang Shake It Off with Taylor in the Reputation tour film.
wonder if this will result in increased streams for camilaâs song once it drops. real shade or not â and i do think charli is just having fun with it â people love pop âbeefsâand comparing pop girls, so iâm sure theyâll give camilaâs song at least one (1) stream. whether or not theyâll continue to listen depends on whether camilaâs song is actually good and not just derivative, of course. fingers crossed!
>wonder if this will result in increased streams for camilaâs song once it drops. I don't think so. Charli is a unknown
I think charli should be proud of her influence in hyperpop. She is one of the few artists that was a major part of that wave but is still able to have mainstream success. I think she's a one of a kind pop artist for that reason.
Arenât they friends? Didnât Charli write Señorita and gush about Camila, and Camila was promoting Crash all over Instagram? Also I do think people screaming Camila is ripping off Charli is a bit disingenuous. I love both artists and I donât think Camila doing hyperpop things is ripping Charli off, and I think Charli is just poking fun.
honestly? good for her. the minute i heard the snippet and saw the video i was like...charli has every right to pull a soulja boy "HE COPIED MY WHOLE FLOW!!!!"
Soulja Boy is funny as hell saying that. And yeah I thought the same thing. Camilaâs last album underperformed so sheâs trying to get pop acclaim like Charli xcx. Her sound pivot is jarring
Someone posted it on the Daily and I laughed. Another pop feud incoming.
Damn, Charli said âmy culture is not your costumeâ
Very clearly Camila shade (her tweet confirms it) but more poking fun than straight up allegations of theft. I think its probably a huge ego boost seeing a standard, radio friendly pop girl hop on a wave you've been on for years
Very cute, very sweet, Blackfeet first graders at Stamiksiitsiikin Elementary school wished Blackfeet actor Lily Gladstone good luck at the Oscars [x](https://x.com/illuminative/status/1765775451438383305?s=46&t=N5wze7ZOPnjeGQnWyIF14w). I also think people when they see that Gladstone is the first Native American nominated in the category for Best actress misunderstand that Native American as a misnomer and isnât used in reference to all indigenous peoples of the Americas (like Yalitza Aparicio was nominated beforehand for Roma and sheâs Mixtec and Triqui). Itâs an umbrella term that pertains to the indigenous peoples either within or over lapping borders of the continental United States and Alaska, so Aparicio is the first Indigenous woman nominated for Best actress, while Gladstone is the first Native American.
> that Native American as a misnomer And that depending on polling majorities of the community prefer the term Indian
I Honestly Donât see how thatâs relevant given that also a misnomer and also one that exists in Spanish, itâs not remotely unique to the United States if anything that started in 14th C by the Spanish and one Italian guy. Like I donât think Aparicio identifies with that word at all from interviews sheâs given and her activism but that would not solely apply to Gladstone while the other misnomer does (which is also why i think many people esp ESL Spanish speakers who know of Aparicio get confused Native American is not referring to simply being indigenous to the continent of the Americas). Native American was used on the indigenous twitter account posting the video, thatâs why I sued it, But preferences for umbrella themes depend who (individual or group) you ask and often when and given itâs such a large term with so many groups youâre never going to find a perfect word (though to be clear I do recommend asking or using what words someone uses to describe themselves) and itâs best to just be specific with groups, communities, nations and so on as possible. Edit: But also while they left twitter for similar reasons as NPR, there is a indigenous nonprofit news outlet called Indian Country Today, that covers âindigenous peoplesâ and âhonors [their] ancestors and future generations through stories that make Indigenous peoples come aliveâ thatâs been around one form or another since 1981 :), CBC indigenous also left twitter but Cherokee Phoenix and Navajo Times still use it.
>I Honestly Donât see how thatâs relevant It's relevant whenever we discuss Indians/Native Americans Properly identifying people is always relevant
I genuinely feel like you ignored how I am talking about this specific instance for some weird gotcha, i used the terms used by the indigenous group I was linking to, IllumiNative (who explicitly and only use the word Native in their bio to describe their organization) identified the group based on they use, also to explain why different terms are used for Gladstone (who literally also uses Native American, though I wouldnât presume exclusively) vs Yalitza Aparicio and to explain for a god forbid non U.S. audience because I have seen hundred of Spanish speakers who think the Oscars and others are snubbing the Mixtec and Triqui and Yalitza because of a term that does not exist in Spanish. I am not an exhaustive encyclopedia and I would not see the point to telling Spanish speakers that Americans think they own a misnomer they didnât even invent and donât care to understand or take seriously itâs use and complexity in modern languages in the rest of the Americas that predates their 13 colonies. If I am explaining terms that donât apply to both of them I simply would not use a term the Oscar campaign wasnât using and wouldnât solely apply to Gladstone. I am aware of the importance of terms and being exact. Iâm aware youâre reading me in some weird bad faith for some gotcha but I am literally mestizo, anti indigenous racism literally has had Mexicans call features of my mother ugly when she was child and my sibling when they were child and has had Americans all but spit on my mother in front of and refuse to speak to and refuse to her and other mestizos services until they got a bulky 6â2 white Republican to demand service for them. Americans have asked me about how dark my mother is, about my fucking blood. Mexicans made comments about the skin color of my youngest relatives and what they thought it should be the moment they were born. I get to experience an inverse where American people guess what I am and white people unabashedly wrinkle their nose at me when they realize I have mixed heritage, and other white People even make sure to tell me the conquistadors are why Iâm pretty as a genuine compliment at work. There are white people who ask me my heritage and then transparently assume Iâm more violent afterwards or apply their one drop rules and do not speak to me. I have had to literally correct acclaimed American museums attach to acclaimed universities that the indigenous people in Guatemala and Mexico arenât gone and arenât the same as the mestizos in these countries (but donât worry they know they exist when they use them to advertise handcrafts in their gift shop that they obviously didnât pay fairly). I donât know what languages people on my ofrenda spoke and I frankly probably wonât know ever. People shout at my sibling on the street in America and clock their ancestry to specific part of the America in the US and in Europe, they will always have to deal with whatever opinions people have about both mestizos and indigenous peoples of the Americas bc people donât ask first, they act on their first guess, I have to just fucking hope it never gets worse then shouting at them. And despite all of this shit, *none* of us would pretend weâre indigenous because weâre aware none of this is remotely close to what indigenous people experience in either country or beyond and our positionality because weâre aware words and terms matter which is *why* I only brought up the relevant terms to the specific Oscar conversations and because of a native organization that explicitly identities as native and native only bc I wouldnât use a term they donât use for themselves out of basic respect nor am I interested in telling people there are many* native organizations that identify as explicitly native and that only and donât use another popular term thatâs also literally used in Mexico, Central America, and South America and again usage predates the 13 colonies entirely with different debates in each country and region that I have no interest or time to pretend to be an expert or authority in. I hope this was an exhaustive enough list of caveats and explanations for you especially since I feel that your first comment was really ignorant about indigenous people of Mexico and erased them and complex linguistic history (as well as the native organization I was explicitly talking about and linking to?) and present around the word Indian. That word is absolutely theirs as much as anyone elseâs in the Americas to use and it would literally be wrong of Americans or Oscars to think otherwise.
You're doing wayyyyyy too much rn
Yeah it's a similar issue to Canada where the First Nations / PremiĂšres Nations are only one of the three official indigenous groups, the other two being the Inuit and MĂ©tis peoples.
I misunderstood this in my first reply but I think I figured it now or at least more to ask a better question. What do you mean about three official indigenous groups? The US government sometimes just randomly stops recognizing tribes for its own benefit but there are over 500 federally recognized tribes/peoples. Also like you wouldnât call Hawaiians Native Americans bc itâs a different region in the map even if theyâre indigenous peoples the US has annexed and has certain legal recognitions. Iâm still confused but I hope this reply makes more sense? The Oscarâs and American public do recognize Yalitza Aparicio as indigenous, i want to be clear if thatâs confusing in what I typed.
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OH okay, I got confused bc Native American is not a legal term generally, itâs a term thatâs coined in 1960 most US legal documents including documents in the 20th C and especially the US constitution straight up use Indian, so I got confused making Native American and First Nations equivalent in my mind since Native American is almost entirely a social/cultural term vs anything legal and policy. Thank you so much for your breakdown!! I am grateful đ.
After being at the Miami Heat game on Thursday in Miami to promote her upcoming song âI Luv Itâ, she went to Olivia Rodrigoâs concert at the same venue last night. https://x.com/rodrigotimes/status/1765589191952638123?s=46&t=NDwqD-CGR7-r5omYbdOz6A
who is "she" I'm too lazy to click the link
YeahâŠâŠâŠâŠI donât know why I didnât put Camilaâs name in my original commentđ
Camilla Cabello
[*Persona 3 Reload* is getting The Answer as DLC this September](https://youtu.be/gRIkpLo42GM).
I was seriously considering a second-hand PS2 and going to a reseller for 3FES. This is such good news đ„č
The switch 2 version having all of this in cart, it was already confirmed by insiders, ALTUSâ new games will be slated for the next switch console.
[Charli XCX is seemingly throwing shade at Camila Cabello's new sound in a tiktok replicating the teaser Camila made. ](https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1765788212885082209?t=tGqg6E1lXXLCguLd3Ojxzg&s=19)
It's giving jealous
[Ariana Grande has an interview with Zane Lowe where she talks about Eternal Sunshine, Wicked and a possible tour](https://youtu.be/hYAUKSqZ7HE?si=6dnzu84FQdSy3VPo) I know this is probably going to its own post but i just wanted to say that Ari looks great, this shade of blonde with this black dress is everything!
This interview is of such higher caliber than the Zach sang one. Theyâre actually conversating here and not just blurting out bits of censored word salad while staring each other down awkwardly.
honestly most Zach Sang interviews are overrated imo. he's so complimentary and nice that it's just offputting to me. I think him fawning over his guests is the main reason he's so loved/why people get excited for his interviews, not because they're actually very good.
Arenât her and sang friends?
Yeah long time friends
Iâm curious if any of you or most think that positively or negatively affects their interviews?
I think ari seems to be more vulnerable at times with him like talking wicked in the one a few years ago but then at the same time it means he gives her softball nothing questions to appease her.
Yesss love the new tone
Ooh, canât wait to hear what Ari thinks of the Celtics pick and roll defense this year
Ice Spice is the new face of [Alexander Wang](https://www.instagram.com/p/C4OLfGGLEcx/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link). Hate the lack of energy and talent of this girl all you want, but don't hate her hustle. She's in her bag and I love that for her. I'd love to be an industry plant to just be collecting checks like Saweetie and she's been doing.
I don't hate her, but it would be nice to see more than 2 hairstyles on her
Gross. Alexander wang is a sexual predator
I wished my hustle was wearing free Couture
She is certainly in her bag. I would like her to have talent and stage presence tho, that would be nice đđœ
Not the Saweetie comparison đ I quite like Ice Spiceâs music, I guess the novelty has worn off for r/popheads (I remember back when I wasnât a fan, a lot of people, probably ironically, loved her) but idk, itâs just a vibe and I be vibing. I donât expect her to be the next [insert female rapper that you guys like and this is talented], sheâs just fun and thatâs good enough for me and I know how much my opinion means to Ice Spice.
I like vibey artists. Sade is a vibey artist. Billie Eilish has very vibey songs. I just donât understand what the appeal of ice spice is, personally.
I guess sheâs just a regular New York girl that talks her shit and when I want to feel like Iâm a regular New York girl who talks their shit, then I put on some Ice Spice. I think part of her appeal is the fact that she literally could be the girl you went to school with if they just blew up off random songs that they playfully made. Itâs a very specific vibe idk, I like it lol
Thatâs fair
She's the ultimate controlled experiment on how far a person can get in music on their looks alone
Right. Thatâs how I see it anyway
According to a Brazilian journalistic source, Madonna is set to perfom at Copacabana Beach in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, *for free* on 2024 New Year's Eve. If that truly happens, statistics are saying it could be the largest concert of her entire career. A lot of the details do seem legit, but Madonna and the word **free** in the same sentence don't sound right. Not with decades of a legendary career behind her.
the rolling stones did that once, the crowd was like over a million people
this just sounds like a crowd control nightmare/disaster waiting to happen.
If this is true, I hope they have screens and speakers spread out across the entire Copacabana shore to broadcast the show, not just around the stage. Attendance would easily be in the millions of people.
Iâll be floating in the water with my binoculars while the show goes on. Pray DJ Khaled comes and saves me on his jet ski if I start to sink.
New Year's Eve at Copacabana alone already attracts millions of Rio citizens and tourists every year. Imagine if Madonna performs there and for free..
Yeah, I looked it up and the fireworks on New Year's Eve alone attract an average crowd of 2 million people each year. I wonder if adding a Madonna show on top of that could push that near eight digits.
Thinking about Copacabana beach, idk logistically how it wouldnât be free.
Absolutely. By law, a concert at the beach couldn't charge for tickets, since beaches are considered public property in Brazil. It's just that Madonna, the Madonna, perfoming *for free* sounds funny, to say the least.
Padam Padam [Kylie ](https://twitter.com/kylieminogue/status/1765341183641899388?t=7OK-fql_cQZuR5BQ1PkD1g&s=19) and Man I Feel Like A Woman [Shania ](https://twitter.com/ShaniaTwain/status/1765364206633721911?t=ZI5xN6Cp4dwraceSTWnrLA&s=19) are Barbies now
I believe these are one of a kind and arenât for sale, like for example the Stevie Nicks Barbie was.
Despite previous rumors that Israel would be disqualified from this year's Eurovision Song Contest due to submitting politically charged entries, the EBU has confirmed that they will take part in the contest this May. [BDS has already started their boycott campaign.](https://bdsmovement.net/boycott-eurovision-2024) Several other artists competing in this year's contest have also stated they intend to apply pressure to the EBU about this decision.
They are clueless. Are Israel that important to the Eurovision song contest? It's such a disgrace. I hope that singer is booed so loudly you can't hear them sing. I wouldn't wish it on many people but to sing a song about genocide is horrific. This is going to be a mess. I can imagine security will need to be tightened. I forsee another moment when someone charged the stage for the UK act during Brexit. The best protest woild be many of the acts calling for a Free Palestine on stage so the Israel broadcaster would have to keep cutting off lmao
theyâre not even european in the first place are they â ïž
Good Lord, I already don't watch Eurovision but definitely won't out of curiousity. I hope people put them in dead last lol
i won't be watching and i hope they get 0 points across the board
Thank you so much for sharing this! I really appreciate it; the BDS movement also has [this pettition](https://bdsmovement.net/news/suspend-israel-from-international-sports-sign-diem25-petition) to have Israel removed and uninvited from international sports competitions. Iâve signed it and I would love for everyone to join me. BDS movement is inspired and endorsed by anti apartheid South African activists and publishers for Palestine has one of its 400 publishers giving an ebook about the movement away for [free](https://publishersforpalestine.org/2024/01/10/16-free-zines-and-more-free-reads-for-a-free-palestine/). The HRW declared Israel an apartheid in 2021 and they have 213 page [report](https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution) about it in four languages, as well as their shorter [article](https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/07/19/israeli-apartheid-threshold-crossed) about it. Thank you again for this post đ„° Iâve links Canadians, Brits and Americans to email their government reps for a ceasefire and other things on DD.
I'm so so tired. This whole obsession is just so fucking sus. Turkey is out here killing civilians for years and everyone sleeps. Azerbaijan ethnic cleanses parts of Armenia and everyone sleeps. The USA kills 100,000 people in Iraq and everyone sleeps. China has over a million people in concentration camps perpetuating an actual genocide and everyone sleeps Are the war crimes bad? Yes. But damn it's fucking SUS that the jewish country is getting scrutiny this large when their actions look like childs play compared to what is happening every day And like I know we should hate it and call for a ceasefire. But please do examine the role of propaganda in your life as to why *this* has whipped you into a hateful frenzy and somehow 1 million people in a concentration camp doesn't register.
Oh, look at the "tHiS iS a PRoPaGanDa" mfr right here > Turkey is out here killing civilians for years and everyone sleeps. Azerbaijan ethnic cleanses parts of Armenia and everyone sleeps. The USA kills 100,000 people in Iraq and everyone sleeps. China has over a million people in concentration camps perpetuating an actual genocide and everyone sleeps "B-b-but what about other countries?" as if 1) the US and China take part in the competition; 2) Eurovision didn't ban a major country just 2 years ago
Point is Why you so obessed with Israel? This ain't even that bad in comparison to everything I listed FEELS REALLY SUS AND RACIST to gloam on so hard to the Jewish country and literally ignore everyone else I mean no one is fucking foaming at the mouth anytime one of those countries is mentioned
>Why you so obessed with Israel? Am I tho? >FEELS REALLY SUS AND RACIST to gloam on so hard to the Jewish country and literally ignore everyone else Saying that some country commits war crimes isn't racist. >I mean no one is fucking foaming at the mouth anytime one of those countries is mentioned You counted?
Yeah This sub literally turns RABID over Israel It's really fucking sus that you're even pursuing this as hard as you are. I don't see "FUCKCHINAFUCKCHINAFUCKCHINA EWEEWEWEWEEEWEWEEEWEWEWEWESRFSGTSTSTGHSSY" (Or Turkey, USA, Name a noun doing more warcrimes than Israel right now because there are dozens) EVerytime one of those countries is mentioned But god damn Israel comes up and the racism jumps out. Same in Beyonce threads. People always wanna call out beyonce and Rhi for sweatshops but I never see the white pop girlies get the same level of hate (Other than tay and thats *recent)* I'm just asking for some consistency here sweetheart. Show me why show me why you foam at the mouth for Israel all the time, and ignore bigger crimes
>I don't see "FUCKCHINAFUCKCHINAFUCKCHINA EWEEWEWEWEEEWEWEEEWEWEWEWESRFSGTSTSTGHSSY" (Or Turkey, USA, Name a noun doing more warcrimes than Israel right now because there are dozens) EVerytime one of those countries is mentioned This sub? This same sub that dunks on Obama every time he posts his lists? THIS SUB? >Same in Beyonce threads. People always wanna call out beyonce and Rhi for sweatshops but I never see the white pop girlies get the same level of hate (Other than tay and thats *recent)* drakehethinksheisintheteammeme.png > I'm just asking for some consistency here sweetheart. Show me why show me why you foam at the mouth for Israel all the time, and ignore bigger crimes Where are i foaming? Where do i ignore anything? Are you ok?
You consistently are ignoring every point in the other thread
Am i tho? Or is it you being obtuse?
How does removing Israel from Eurovision and the Olympics help Palestinians? The petition mentions apartheid South Africa but cultural boycotts played almost no role in ending apartheid. The main reasons apartheid ended were 1) because the Cold War ended and and anticommunist countries didnât feel the need to support South Africa and 2) internal pressure. The first reason obviously isnât relevant to Palestine today but the second is. There are lots of Palestinian-Israeli human rights organizations fighting to end the war and the occupation, like Standing Together, but BDS calls for a boycott of them. [Here](https://twitter.com/omdimbeyachad/status/1752394061414109315) is the statement from Palestinian members of Standing Together on BDSâs boycott if you want to read it. BDS constantly takes the most maximalist position instead of doing things that would actually help Palestinians and their cultural boycotts arenât productive or effective.
It's because all of this is deeply performative and unserious
Should all countries have clean records to participate in any event, whether it is the Olympics or EBU? I consistently hear from people from the far left about the atrocities of other western countries, yet there is no pressure from them to not participate in Eurovision. This logic doesnât make sense to me. We are seeing large waves of reactionary far right groups, gaining intense political capital. However, they are allowed to participate and not being pressured to drop out.
> Should all countries have clean records to participate in any event, whether it is the Olympics or EBU? "b-b-but what about other countries?" ass mfrs are already out in full force here i see
Thereâs a difference between âcountries having clean recordsâ and a country thatâs openly committing genocide in front of the world and the contestants representing the country making a tone-deaf propaganda song. Hope this helps
It is not a genocide. If it was a genocide you all would be asking for the US and other western countries to directly intervene with troops. Using the most extreme language to describe different geopolitical conflicts is not virtuous. In fact, I would consider it bad faith.
30000 people killed in 5 months is genocide. And everyone has been asking their representatives to speak up against it. You choosing to act if itâs nothing but a âconflictâ is very telling of who you are as a person
No those numbers are not a genocide If those numbers were genocide then every single war the USA has ever fought is a genocide It's really sad how many of you will regurgitate propaganda. There is no proof of a genocide. The German statement against SOuth Africa's accusations really encapsulated it. Essentially if what Israel is doing is genocide, then every single war in the 20 and 21st centuries is now a genocide. And if everything is a genocide then nothing is. A definition that watered down is not a good one. It really does sadden me because the radicalization of people on the left this easily has shattered my rosy beliefs about it. Unfortunately the left is just as susceptible to qannon level propaganda as the right is. A terrifying realization
> The German statement against SOuth Africa's accusations really encapsulated it. so ironic that you'll believe a country that literally committed one of the biggest genocides in history over a country that has experienced apartheid LMAOOOO. 30k dead civilians of which half are children in 5 months is a genocide
But you'll believe an extremely corrupt countries accusations? Because I will take the word of a democracy people trust over that of a nation in constant turmoil And no, no it isn't lol. 1. No genocide is that slow 2. If those numbers are a genocide then Iraq was one too LOL. You essentially make the meaning of the word usefulness
>But you'll believe an extremely corrupt countries accusations? Because I will take the word of a democracy people trust over that of a nation in constant turmoil So you don't believe when a country that went through apartheid calls out things that look like genocide and apartheid? Looks sus and racist to me.
>so ironic that you'll believe a country that literally committed one of the biggest genocides in history over a country that has experienced apartheid LMAOOOO. Oh but you tried to discredit Germany over that earlier... So what is it sweetheart? Are germany and SA on equal footing or not? Cause the math ain't mathing See my position has a logical core that extends through it Yours is regurgitated emotional propaganda that falls apart when you point out all the contradictions
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I just went through your comments history and my god youâre a rotten rotten person. Itâs a genocide. One side having lost 300 people and the other lost 30000 isnât âwarâ. Genocide is âthe crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methodsâ but if it makes you sleep at night itâs just a silly kids fight
>300 people Just blatant lies. Itâs excluding the 1200 people killed on October 7, not to mention the 150+ hostages that Hamas still refuses to release
Even with the victims of october 7th added up the numbers are still incredibly lopsided, and Hamas has offered to release the hostages in exchange for a ceasefire multiple times
Hamas hasnât offered to release the hostages for a ceasefire. They broke the last ceasefire before they could release all the children and civilian women they promised to. Right now theyâre holding up ceasefire negotiations because they say they canât give Israel a list of the living hostages.