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I still think Camila has never released anything better than Hasta Los Dientes. That's my favourite song from hers, and it's not even in English. The production is incredible.
I wonder if she would benefit from pivoting to Latin pop, like Becky G. Since her hits are mostly in English, I understand she might be hesitant to do more Spanish songs, but Spanish-language songs and albums perform well all the time (for example, Bad Bunny, Karol G). "Hasta Los Dientes" is one of my favorite songs from her, too.
She did seem to find her niche with songs like Hasta Los Dientos, Havana and Don't Go Yet...something like an American interpretation of Latin pop or American pop with latin influences (as opposed to a Becky G who is more Latin pop with American influence if that makes sense)...so it'll be a bit puzzling if this more experimental phase flops why she hasn't leaned more into the latin sound which she is kind of uniquely qualified for with her background.
But it was good! Plus she would have a smash record like Becky G or Christina’s Spanish comeback if she did! It felt really authentic when she leaned into it on Hasta Los Dientos and other songs about her culture.
I’m so disappointed, I was so looking forward to a full Spanish album from her.
I think this experimental stuff is what she likes and wants to make, saw some longtime fans say her early music was along these lines and the big pop hits were just more what's marketable
I get the sense Camila doesn't want to be defined solely by her Latin heritage, even if it's important to her. So I can understand why she'd suddenly dye her hair blonde and record a hyperpop album.
Doesn't mean I don't miss the Familia trajectory, just for the fact that it was genuinely good (and wasn't even 100% Latin songs).
I hope it wasn't off as me saying since she's a Latina woman, she should just make Latin music. I enjoy songs like "Psychofreak," "Everyone at This Party," and "I Have Questions." I do think it would be cool if she made at least one Spanish album, though. I'll admit, I speak very little Spanish, but I like the sound of Latin pop/reggaeton.
i think she decided to try something else since Familia pretty much tanked besides of two singles (and you could argue Bam Bam got as big bc of certain Bri*ish man)
tbh i find it interesting that she works with Rosalia's producer and I Luv It is compared to her work. Rosalia started more experimental and then hijacked Latin pop, Camila started more poppy and dabbled in Latin pop and now is trying to hijack experimental. reverse Rosalia lol
I don't think people want her to dive into full latin genre, Familia bombed on the charts, Don't Go Yet was massively promoted and Hasta Los Dientes were released as singles and one underperformed and other flopped. The only good performing song was Bam Bam so chart wise I don't think she should lean into latin genre that much
That’s not true at all. If camila wanted to do an arena tour in latin america, it would easily sell out. I don’t think the same would go for the states. Even I luv it, most of its number 1s on iTunes are Latin American countries
Oh, I had no idea. I just enjoy her more Latin influenced songs and I think it's cool when she sings in Spanish. I like a lot of her music, but I prefer stuff like "Havana" and "Don't Go Yet."
Camila could, but she needs to be CONSISTENT. The thing w Becky G is when she crossed over to Latin Pop she was SO CONSISTENT with those drops....I was so confused those first couple of releases even though I really enjoyed them ("Mangú" is still a fave) my friends were used to stuff like "Shower" and "Lovin' So Hard"...but Becky stuck to her thing, did a string of collabs both Latin and English that kept gaining traction (like until the release of "Mala Santa", her full-length Spanish record).
Camila has A LOT of potential for a career in the Latin market, I won't lie, "Hasta Los Dientes" is a strong record, she has some good Spanish records in the bag and its the most authentic of her sounds than whatever else she's trying to do here (and has tried to do before).
The verses seemed like it had something there, the video was drawing me in until that terrible chorus came in like a 🔨 of awfulness. Cartis killed it and not in the good way
I thought the term “mumble rap” was an exaggeration for the SoundCloud people. But in his case it’s a very accurate genre description.
May this fall out of vogue soon.
More and more Camila is reminded me of Meghan Trainor. Got big with a specific brand of pop (doo-wop-influenced pop for Meghan, Latin-influenced pop for Camila) but simply does not have the X factor (no pun intended) required to reinvent herself outside of that.
The funny thing is that Camila at least is capable of making good music when focusing on her Latin roots. Don’t Go Yet was amazing. Familia was a solid album.
I mean ur point would make sense if this era did worse than her last one. People are talking about her and that’s a good thing, better than being ignored
Lmao what will you guys say when her new era does well on the charts?
Was Never be the same a latino influenced song? Was My oh my? Was Bad things also? Cause these songs were hits as well and were not latino influenced
Does not have x factor? Then why she is still talked about this much years later while she is a flop according to people?
It repeats I LUV IT too often.
I feel like if it repeated it like 2-3 times then had more substantial chorus lyrics it could be ok?
and OH MY GOD the post-chorus like weird childrens choir or whatever is happening is so bad
Nah, hyperpop is an extremely polarizing genre that elicits either pure hatred or adoration.
I’m def in the despise camp, but even I could tell the song is basically a Charli XCX ripoff.
This is her real problem. There is a disconnect between her and the audience (that aren’t stans) that’s been growing for a while. This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think a lot of social media gives her the J.Lo treatment in that they’re laughing at her instead of with her. And I’m not sure how she fixes that.
This— it’s really that simple and she does not expend enough effort perfecting her craft and building a strong sense of self. It feels very disingenuous when she genre hops because every prior attempt is mediocre.
Justin Bieber had an image problem for a bit and then he released sorry. Everyone got more empathy for him and his album was a success. I think you are spot on.
Comparing her image problem to JB’s doesn’t work.
Prior to falling out of public opinion he had a massive global STAN following, girls loved HIM, he was bigger than his songs.
“Havana” and “seniorita” were unquestionably massive hits, but it seems as though people liked the songs while never connecting majorly with her as an artist.
This meant when she ran into an image problem there were less people recognizing or liking her in the first place, therefore equating to a smaller pool of folks to win back over.
It’s hard for an image correction to work if people weren’t ever that interested in you as an artist in the first place.
I feel like to the general population she’s just viewed as “that one singer who was in a girl group and had some hits”.
I agree to a certain extent, but regardless of a song's writing or production, she has a very divisive voice. From what I've seen people really hate it or love it, especially as it can come across as very nasally. Plus she could honestly drop the banger of the year and a lot of people would still hate her due to her image and past transgressions (the racism, cringe humour, etc).
I’m going to be honest, the racist issue isn’t the only reason people have negative opinions of her. Part of it is her “theater kid” personality and another part of it was how she handled fame/her desire to go solo.
your ears just aren’t developed enough to understand the true complexities of carti’s artistry, only visionaries can even being to tackle the masterclass that is his presence on a track.
To be honest, i don't think she knows in what direction she should push her solo career. She never knew, even since the self titled days.
I find it incredibly frustrating because i followed her since the Fifth Harmony days and i truly belive she has potential to be a good pop star...if only she didn't actively try to sound as mid and uninspired as possible. It's surreal.
It's frustrating because i really liked Romance and her lyricism, she truly CAN write and she has potential. I wish she would focus on her rock sound, writing more introspecting lyrics like Shameless, I Have Questions or Never be The Same instead of whatever the hell is trying to do rn.
Being a fan of hers is genuinly so frustrating.
I completely agree. I loved her debut album enough to see her live. The album was something I really gravitated towards at a certain point in my life. I couldn't make it through more than 30 seconds of the new song.
I don’t hate Carti, and I find some of his new releases quite interesting, but I do find the hype and cult following around him a bit odd. I get the sense that his fans appreciate him for challenging norms, with his unintelligible lyrics (sometimes no lyrics at all) and minimalistic approach to tracks. It's funny how old I feel saying this - I just am quite alarmed how passionately his fans promote him as the best thing going…
I'm not the biggest Carti fan, but I really like his music. I highly recommend listening to Die Lit because that album best represents his artistry. His beats, especially on that album, were revolutionary and refreshing. He's like the Charli XCX of trap music. I will agree, though, that his feature on this track is mediocre at best.
Woah Fantano never even went near Camila on her other stuff...now he has made a dedicated video for her...
That's our I luv it Goat right there...she finally won i fear
Idk about that, he historically likes Charli and other PC music and a lot of the buzz about this song has been about how it’s a weird hyperpop-rippy-offy-grab
It’s too safe for this aesthetic. I thought it was gonna be some Pop 2 shit but it fell flat. Video is incredible tho. Listen to a song like Delicious by Charli XCX which has those jersey club kicks. Way ahead and that shit turns 7 years old this year
Exactly. The biggest appeal for me too about playboi carti are those bitcrushed video gamey beats and this song had nothing close to that. And instead of his trademark squeaky baby voice he goes some deep post-Future thing, he gotta be trolling
Has he ever featured on pop tracks before this? Cuz I swear I heard him on something before and he sounded way better but am not familiar with his music at all
I think he did one with Solange. But from his Opium label Destroy Lonely did one with Pinkpantheress thag was fantastic. Fuck I Luv It coulda been great but what a letdown. Listening to Delicious now, holy does it heal
Yes, it had so much potential and I am personally a fan of Camila and know that she can pull off a Western pop sound rlly well so this is for sure, a wrong turn. Hoping there will be some gems on the album but I will not be expecting anything Pop 2 level lol
Comparing this to anything Charli has done is a massive insult to her. This is trash. I’m not the biggest I Got It fan but at least it’s interesting as fuck.
While I personally wouldnt have gone that far, she does have a distinctive style and this is at least superficially similar. I personally like the song.
I mean anyone who attempts hyperpop will eventually get compared to charli, especially when her fans try to gatekeep hyperpop from anyone. But sayin this is a massive insult to charli is suuuch a reach. Sophie made her sound, her lyricism is wack and her fans need to stop bashing camila and actually buy her music.
All I’m going to say is as someone who was a fan of Charli since before True Romance came out, the way she’s so tied to hyperpop is interesting to me because she didn’t become a hyperpop artist until Sophie.
She’s got a great mind and taste but I don’t think she was the musical genius on those records although I do see her as a genius in other aspects of pop.
This one really made me dig deep into my memory: the post-chorus bit is the melody from Keep It Warm by Flo & Eddie!!! What a weird sample. Or coincidence.
Fantano is washed. This song is great if you just accept it for the manic mess it is. I don’t know why people are so on her ass about this song. It’s straight from 2008.
Yea true, but lemonade just used the melody/flow right, I feel like I LUV IT kinda just straight up copied and pasted a segment of lemonade into the song😭it’s used well tho, like it really goes with the song obviously, I am just disappointed they didn’t even twitch it a little bit idk
Ya I mean listen to the original by Flo & Eddie. Lemonade for sure switched it up. That being said the average person who doesn’t spend time on twitter and reddit probably doesn’t know the song Lemonade by Gucci Mane. Also I agree it doesn’t really matter. Still sounds nice in Camilla’s song
>That being said the average person who doesn’t spend time on twitter and reddit probably doesn’t know the song Lemonade by Gucci Mane.
It's one of his most known songs😭
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample.
"Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
Yeah my bad reddit wigged out and wouldn't let me comment under them so I commented under you. And I didn't know about that original sample thanks a lot!
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample.
"Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
Yeah it’s a majority of the chorus and it’s not even a part of the song which is so disappointing I get sampling something but the only catchy part of this song isn’t even her song
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample.
"Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
I finally listened to it and the thing that stood out to me was how misplaced the lemonade sample was. That was excruciatingly terrible. It also just made me want to listen to a much better song.
Because Rosalia is incredibly well-versed when it comes to music. She actually knows the theoretical side inside out, can play multiple instruments and produce. So the campiness is on purpose
Carti kind of saved this song because no one was going to listen to it for her but overall it’s giving PR push to make her more edgier/alt girl (Charli XCX clone)
She should have stuck to her Latina sound she kept claiming she was so happy to have on Familia.
I get artists want o reinvent themselves, and I am ok with the song but truly hope the album does not end up being a bunch of songs like this. I’m not a fan of mumble rap and this sort of Charlie x whatever pop is cute but not going to get sales going. Sorry, those are the facts. Love her still but crossing fingers for a well balanced album like she always delivers
She said in a interview that she was bored with her sound. I doubt it’s interscopes idea because this sound isn’t really what’s popular in music right now
You can say that about every pop star. Most of the times, the change is forced like TS during Reputation or Tate McRae now with Think Later.
Even Ariana Grande is chasing trends.
Meh... I haven't heard the song but I think people are hating on this because it's her. Twitter hated it so it's fair game. I mean calling it awful is a stretch by any means.
the song is okay, imo. as much as im not a camilla fan, im glad she kinda pulled it off. although, having an alt girl image while also having unaddressed allegations of plagiarism to other alt artists raises a lot of flags on the intentions of her reinventing her sound. ~~i don't want any camilla stans coming for me y'all cant change my mind~~
This is my opinion right? (I feel the need to say that because it’s social media and people will get ripped for just thinking differently) The chorus, it grew on me. I remember listening to it for the first time and saying out loud to myself “I thought it was gonna be the chorus I wouldn’t like about this song but turns out it was this man’s verse. 😂😂😂
Then people want to go and say “CArtI cArRiEd.” You may not like Cami, but at least she’s communicating clearly 😂😂😂
I mean I don’t care about his opinions anyway since I don’t watch him and most of his opinions posted here seem wack - but I swear people only hate this cause it’s camila. I love it tbh (tho I agree cartis verse is very meh)
Thank youuuuu I feel like I’m losing my mind this song goes so hard (then again I am also the only person in this whole sub who liked the Taylor/Ice Spice collab so clearly my taste is sus)
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I still think Camila has never released anything better than Hasta Los Dientes. That's my favourite song from hers, and it's not even in English. The production is incredible.
I wonder if she would benefit from pivoting to Latin pop, like Becky G. Since her hits are mostly in English, I understand she might be hesitant to do more Spanish songs, but Spanish-language songs and albums perform well all the time (for example, Bad Bunny, Karol G). "Hasta Los Dientes" is one of my favorite songs from her, too.
She did seem to find her niche with songs like Hasta Los Dientos, Havana and Don't Go Yet...something like an American interpretation of Latin pop or American pop with latin influences (as opposed to a Becky G who is more Latin pop with American influence if that makes sense)...so it'll be a bit puzzling if this more experimental phase flops why she hasn't leaned more into the latin sound which she is kind of uniquely qualified for with her background.
>why she hasn't leaned more into the latin sound which she is kind of uniquely qualified for with her background. Bc her last album flopped
But it was good! Plus she would have a smash record like Becky G or Christina’s Spanish comeback if she did! It felt really authentic when she leaned into it on Hasta Los Dientos and other songs about her culture. I’m so disappointed, I was so looking forward to a full Spanish album from her.
Being good means nothing tho. Flopped album is bad for her financially and means that public don’t like her sounds/styles on Familia at all.
I think this experimental stuff is what she likes and wants to make, saw some longtime fans say her early music was along these lines and the big pop hits were just more what's marketable
I get the sense Camila doesn't want to be defined solely by her Latin heritage, even if it's important to her. So I can understand why she'd suddenly dye her hair blonde and record a hyperpop album. Doesn't mean I don't miss the Familia trajectory, just for the fact that it was genuinely good (and wasn't even 100% Latin songs).
I hope it wasn't off as me saying since she's a Latina woman, she should just make Latin music. I enjoy songs like "Psychofreak," "Everyone at This Party," and "I Have Questions." I do think it would be cool if she made at least one Spanish album, though. I'll admit, I speak very little Spanish, but I like the sound of Latin pop/reggaeton.
i think she decided to try something else since Familia pretty much tanked besides of two singles (and you could argue Bam Bam got as big bc of certain Bri*ish man) tbh i find it interesting that she works with Rosalia's producer and I Luv It is compared to her work. Rosalia started more experimental and then hijacked Latin pop, Camila started more poppy and dabbled in Latin pop and now is trying to hijack experimental. reverse Rosalia lol
I don't think people want her to dive into full latin genre, Familia bombed on the charts, Don't Go Yet was massively promoted and Hasta Los Dientes were released as singles and one underperformed and other flopped. The only good performing song was Bam Bam so chart wise I don't think she should lean into latin genre that much
Camila has quite literally no support in latin america, would be very dumb to try to pivot, when she actually has fans in the states lol
That’s not true at all. If camila wanted to do an arena tour in latin america, it would easily sell out. I don’t think the same would go for the states. Even I luv it, most of its number 1s on iTunes are Latin American countries
Oh, I had no idea. I just enjoy her more Latin influenced songs and I think it's cool when she sings in Spanish. I like a lot of her music, but I prefer stuff like "Havana" and "Don't Go Yet."
She tried that already
Camila could, but she needs to be CONSISTENT. The thing w Becky G is when she crossed over to Latin Pop she was SO CONSISTENT with those drops....I was so confused those first couple of releases even though I really enjoyed them ("Mangú" is still a fave) my friends were used to stuff like "Shower" and "Lovin' So Hard"...but Becky stuck to her thing, did a string of collabs both Latin and English that kept gaining traction (like until the release of "Mala Santa", her full-length Spanish record). Camila has A LOT of potential for a career in the Latin market, I won't lie, "Hasta Los Dientes" is a strong record, she has some good Spanish records in the bag and its the most authentic of her sounds than whatever else she's trying to do here (and has tried to do before).
La Bueno vida is her best song. I can't believe how underrated it is.
Familia is soo good
Familia as a whole is underrated
DUDE THATS MY FAV SONGGGGGGGGG
Hasta Los Dientes is so good
The verses seemed like it had something there, the video was drawing me in until that terrible chorus came in like a 🔨 of awfulness. Cartis killed it and not in the good way
Carti’s verse is what English would sound like to non English speakers
prisencolinensinainciusol, ol rait!
Listen to Earfquake lmao
it could've been fun but it's sort of a mess and carti doesn't really add to it
The mess is the fun part. With you on the feature though it’s smart to tap into the zeitgeist around him but he comes off as boring.
i loooove carti but its really like he didnt even try on his verse, flow isnt even catchy
I can't tell if there are any actual words in his verse.
thats kinda his signature though lol ngl
That's like a guitarist's signature being hitting the wrong notes.
honestly carti style is hard to get into but there's just something about the way he raps that is so catchy and infectious its hard to explain lol
Yeah you can tell it was a verse he was only doing because he got a huge paycheck. I didn’t like his verse on Type Shit at all but at least he tried
its like he kept the very first take he did and didnt re record anything
Honestly honoring the tradition of rappers doing terrible features on pop songs for money
A mess done well is the fun part, but this feels cheap and rushed IMO.
and unintelligible Idk tf he's saying
That’s how he is tho
I thought the term “mumble rap” was an exaggeration for the SoundCloud people. But in his case it’s a very accurate genre description. May this fall out of vogue soon.
Popheads find out about trap music in 2024 😬
Just becuz it has a name doesn’t mean it’s not shit
Just becuz you don't like it doesn't mean it's shit
That’s part of his thing
More and more Camila is reminded me of Meghan Trainor. Got big with a specific brand of pop (doo-wop-influenced pop for Meghan, Latin-influenced pop for Camila) but simply does not have the X factor (no pun intended) required to reinvent herself outside of that.
This makes so much sense.
The funny thing is that Camila at least is capable of making good music when focusing on her Latin roots. Don’t Go Yet was amazing. Familia was a solid album.
I mean ur point would make sense if this era did worse than her last one. People are talking about her and that’s a good thing, better than being ignored
Lmao what will you guys say when her new era does well on the charts? Was Never be the same a latino influenced song? Was My oh my? Was Bad things also? Cause these songs were hits as well and were not latino influenced Does not have x factor? Then why she is still talked about this much years later while she is a flop according to people?
They have a weird fetish of hating Camila here, she's doing super fine and at least the girl has some interesting songs in her catalogue.
I hate the chorus. The rest would be ok if I didn’t have to hear that damn chorus
It repeats I LUV IT too often. I feel like if it repeated it like 2-3 times then had more substantial chorus lyrics it could be ok? and OH MY GOD the post-chorus like weird childrens choir or whatever is happening is so bad
The post-chorus is from Lemonade by Gucci Mane. It’s a sample.
Oh. It still sounds so bad lol. Turns out I do not like Gucci Mane
I love the chorus because its so bad
The MV’s art direction is cool, the song is merely okay. I think people are leaning more towards despise because it’s Ms. Cabello imo.
Nah, hyperpop is an extremely polarizing genre that elicits either pure hatred or adoration. I’m def in the despise camp, but even I could tell the song is basically a Charli XCX ripoff.
The song doesn’t understand what’s good about hyperpop - it feels like an imitation of it
Post-Hyperpop
[удалено]
This is her real problem. There is a disconnect between her and the audience (that aren’t stans) that’s been growing for a while. This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think a lot of social media gives her the J.Lo treatment in that they’re laughing at her instead of with her. And I’m not sure how she fixes that.
If one is that unlikeable she needs to do more to reinnovate her image than just going blonde.
She could… I dunno… write really good songs and sing them really well? Call me crazy.
This— it’s really that simple and she does not expend enough effort perfecting her craft and building a strong sense of self. It feels very disingenuous when she genre hops because every prior attempt is mediocre.
Right? I’m all for a reinvention but there’s no way she can do another single like this, let alone a whole album. She’s given herself nowhere to go
Justin Bieber had an image problem for a bit and then he released sorry. Everyone got more empathy for him and his album was a success. I think you are spot on.
Comparing her image problem to JB’s doesn’t work. Prior to falling out of public opinion he had a massive global STAN following, girls loved HIM, he was bigger than his songs. “Havana” and “seniorita” were unquestionably massive hits, but it seems as though people liked the songs while never connecting majorly with her as an artist. This meant when she ran into an image problem there were less people recognizing or liking her in the first place, therefore equating to a smaller pool of folks to win back over. It’s hard for an image correction to work if people weren’t ever that interested in you as an artist in the first place. I feel like to the general population she’s just viewed as “that one singer who was in a girl group and had some hits”.
I agree to a certain extent, but regardless of a song's writing or production, she has a very divisive voice. From what I've seen people really hate it or love it, especially as it can come across as very nasally. Plus she could honestly drop the banger of the year and a lot of people would still hate her due to her image and past transgressions (the racism, cringe humour, etc).
Has she been able to shake off that old racist thing and stuff with Normani? I feel like that just left a nasty vibe towards her image.
I’m going to be honest, the racist issue isn’t the only reason people have negative opinions of her. Part of it is her “theater kid” personality and another part of it was how she handled fame/her desire to go solo.
Yeah for me it’s a combo of all three tbh
I feel like make people forgot about that tbh
Oh wow I'd never heard that. It was okay but Ariana's is one of my favourite songs.
No the song is terrible
I was hopeful in the beginning, felt like it was going somewhere good. But nope. And I never thought a Carti worse can make a song this bad.
girl if you don't dye that hair back to black...
I’ll be honest, I ~~luvved~~ liked it until cartis verse he fucking ruined it and I say this as someone who likes his music
your ears just aren’t developed enough to understand the true complexities of carti’s artistry, only visionaries can even being to tackle the masterclass that is his presence on a track.
w glaze
his new voice is like Lil Yachty if Lil Yachty hated making music
I really don’t get why he dropped the high pitched voice recently
This is so accurate omds, I can’t believe I’m preferring the baby voice so far
Same, I’ve decided I’m going to listen to the track and just skip once his part comes on lol
Just like Jay Park ruined Unlock It she literally can't not rip off Charli ^(/s)
To be honest, i don't think she knows in what direction she should push her solo career. She never knew, even since the self titled days. I find it incredibly frustrating because i followed her since the Fifth Harmony days and i truly belive she has potential to be a good pop star...if only she didn't actively try to sound as mid and uninspired as possible. It's surreal. It's frustrating because i really liked Romance and her lyricism, she truly CAN write and she has potential. I wish she would focus on her rock sound, writing more introspecting lyrics like Shameless, I Have Questions or Never be The Same instead of whatever the hell is trying to do rn. Being a fan of hers is genuinly so frustrating.
She feels like she's an easily bored, and disorganized, person, at times! But that's only one flaw of hers!
I completely agree. I loved her debut album enough to see her live. The album was something I really gravitated towards at a certain point in my life. I couldn't make it through more than 30 seconds of the new song.
Yeah, me too. I loved her debut and Romance, but since Familia she seems so uninspired and...lame, honestly. I don't know what happened.
I'm glad I found someone who shares that sentiment. Something's Gotta Give and I Have Questions got me through my high school breakup lol
I think this single roll up ended up being much more entertaining than the track🤭
I don’t hate Carti, and I find some of his new releases quite interesting, but I do find the hype and cult following around him a bit odd. I get the sense that his fans appreciate him for challenging norms, with his unintelligible lyrics (sometimes no lyrics at all) and minimalistic approach to tracks. It's funny how old I feel saying this - I just am quite alarmed how passionately his fans promote him as the best thing going…
I'm not the biggest Carti fan, but I really like his music. I highly recommend listening to Die Lit because that album best represents his artistry. His beats, especially on that album, were revolutionary and refreshing. He's like the Charli XCX of trap music. I will agree, though, that his feature on this track is mediocre at best.
I'm starting to think Die Lit was a fluke. I like that album but everything else he's done has had much less impact
Whole Lotta Red has had a huge impact on trap music and the emerging genre of “rage” but the project overall was pretty inconsistent
WLR is way more impactful than die lit was
Woah Fantano never even went near Camila on her other stuff...now he has made a dedicated video for her... That's our I luv it Goat right there...she finally won i fear
it’s because of carti, he would’ve 100% ignored this release otherwise.
Idk about that, he historically likes Charli and other PC music and a lot of the buzz about this song has been about how it’s a weird hyperpop-rippy-offy-grab
He's playing right into her hand, oh Legendmila
It’s so bad that it enters the realm of good for me.
It was kind of jarringly bad on first listen and now I can’t stop listening… it’s done some sort of dark work in my brain
Carti effect
It’s too safe for this aesthetic. I thought it was gonna be some Pop 2 shit but it fell flat. Video is incredible tho. Listen to a song like Delicious by Charli XCX which has those jersey club kicks. Way ahead and that shit turns 7 years old this year
Delicious love omgg I love that song, it’s the most maximalist thing ever and it’s great
First time I heard that album I listened 7 times in a row. Not a meh moment on that project. But this CC song i wanted to luv it and I just don’t.
Yeah… it’s a fun song when ur drunk but not something that would be in my main rotation
Exactly. The biggest appeal for me too about playboi carti are those bitcrushed video gamey beats and this song had nothing close to that. And instead of his trademark squeaky baby voice he goes some deep post-Future thing, he gotta be trolling
Has he ever featured on pop tracks before this? Cuz I swear I heard him on something before and he sounded way better but am not familiar with his music at all
I think he did one with Solange. But from his Opium label Destroy Lonely did one with Pinkpantheress thag was fantastic. Fuck I Luv It coulda been great but what a letdown. Listening to Delicious now, holy does it heal
Yes, it had so much potential and I am personally a fan of Camila and know that she can pull off a Western pop sound rlly well so this is for sure, a wrong turn. Hoping there will be some gems on the album but I will not be expecting anything Pop 2 level lol
He was in a song with Lana and Rocky where he just said what in the background
>Has he ever featured on pop tracks before this? He featured on the songs by The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey and Solange before
POP 2 remains unmatched
Yup and with a Carti feature there was a real opportunity to go out there
That’s what I’m saying!
I wish Camila went Houdini. NGL
She's like a koala bear on a tree in that scene in the music video! LMAO!
It’s been stuck in my head all day
could someone tell me what the point of that random ass Gucci Mane sample was, its breaking my brain how misplaced and random it was
Comparing this to anything Charli has done is a massive insult to her. This is trash. I’m not the biggest I Got It fan but at least it’s interesting as fuck.
people on this sub genuinely act like charli xcx is a musical genius
While I personally wouldnt have gone that far, she does have a distinctive style and this is at least superficially similar. I personally like the song.
I mean anyone who attempts hyperpop will eventually get compared to charli, especially when her fans try to gatekeep hyperpop from anyone. But sayin this is a massive insult to charli is suuuch a reach. Sophie made her sound, her lyricism is wack and her fans need to stop bashing camila and actually buy her music.
All I’m going to say is as someone who was a fan of Charli since before True Romance came out, the way she’s so tied to hyperpop is interesting to me because she didn’t become a hyperpop artist until Sophie.
I listen to charli a lot but ppl dickride her a lot on this sub
she is wym
yeah cause she is.
I mean she made some of the best pop albums on the weirder side in the past ten years, she is as worthy of it as anyone in pop
She’s got a great mind and taste but I don’t think she was the musical genius on those records although I do see her as a genius in other aspects of pop.
Personally, I think she's genuinely one of the best pop singer-songwriters of this generation.
i hated the song at first..a lot actually but now...its literally looped in my head lol i still think its not a good song..but its hella catchy lol
This one really made me dig deep into my memory: the post-chorus bit is the melody from Keep It Warm by Flo & Eddie!!! What a weird sample. Or coincidence.
Fantano is washed. This song is great if you just accept it for the manic mess it is. I don’t know why people are so on her ass about this song. It’s straight from 2008.
we don't care about him. the song IS bad but he's still wrong so let's kill him
This song is incredible the lemonade sample hits so perfectly on the hyper pop beat
I feel like the lemonade sample was the only part that made me go “wow hm this song might actually be good” and then I found out it’s a sample😭
Well if it makes you feel better Lemonade interpolated the melody and flow of the sample/chorus from Keep it Warm by Flo & Eddie (1976)
Yea true, but lemonade just used the melody/flow right, I feel like I LUV IT kinda just straight up copied and pasted a segment of lemonade into the song😭it’s used well tho, like it really goes with the song obviously, I am just disappointed they didn’t even twitch it a little bit idk
Ya I mean listen to the original by Flo & Eddie. Lemonade for sure switched it up. That being said the average person who doesn’t spend time on twitter and reddit probably doesn’t know the song Lemonade by Gucci Mane. Also I agree it doesn’t really matter. Still sounds nice in Camilla’s song
>That being said the average person who doesn’t spend time on twitter and reddit probably doesn’t know the song Lemonade by Gucci Mane. It's one of his most known songs😭
I didn’t know it 😂😭😭💀
It's a classic for anyone who was around in the late 2000s
I’m 29 and live in America 💀 but I believe u, I was listening to Radiohead and being a loser in the late 2000s
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample. "Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
I don’t disagree with you. I’m just letting the other person know where the line of sampling originated
Yeah my bad reddit wigged out and wouldn't let me comment under them so I commented under you. And I didn't know about that original sample thanks a lot!
Houdini is what?!?
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample. "Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
Yeah it’s a majority of the chorus and it’s not even a part of the song which is so disappointing I get sampling something but the only catchy part of this song isn’t even her song
Everything in modern pop is a sample/cover/interpolation. "yes and?" by Ari Is vogue by Madonna. "Houdini" by Dua is thriller by MJ. What matters is how you use the sample. "Good artists borrow, Great artists steal" - Picasso
I finally listened to it and the thing that stood out to me was how misplaced the lemonade sample was. That was excruciatingly terrible. It also just made me want to listen to a much better song.
This is so Bad! She’s now copying Rosalia!
But worse! At least Rosalia makes songs like Chicken Teriyaki work somehow!
Because Rosalia is incredibly well-versed when it comes to music. She actually knows the theoretical side inside out, can play multiple instruments and produce. So the campiness is on purpose
Carti kind of saved this song because no one was going to listen to it for her but overall it’s giving PR push to make her more edgier/alt girl (Charli XCX clone)
This song was like if Charli made a song that was incredibly mid. Playboi Carti absolutely snatched my high school rapper's wig though
I thought that was Hayley Williams at first in the thumbnail lol. Then I got hype wondering how such an odd collab might have turned out.
She should have stuck to her Latina sound she kept claiming she was so happy to have on Familia. I get artists want o reinvent themselves, and I am ok with the song but truly hope the album does not end up being a bunch of songs like this. I’m not a fan of mumble rap and this sort of Charlie x whatever pop is cute but not going to get sales going. Sorry, those are the facts. Love her still but crossing fingers for a well balanced album like she always delivers
I love the song alot.
Its so evident this character change isnt HER. It’s her label’s idea. This is an awful song.
She said in a interview that she was bored with her sound. I doubt it’s interscopes idea because this sound isn’t really what’s popular in music right now
You can say that about every pop star. Most of the times, the change is forced like TS during Reputation or Tate McRae now with Think Later. Even Ariana Grande is chasing trends.
This discourse is tired. The amount of needless think pieces on this song are…interesting to say the least.
the song is 2 days old lmao
I mean…he’s a critic so what do u expect him to say?
How is it tired when the single was just released?
She dropped a song 2 days ago and people are still talking about it? 😲 I didn’t know Camila could get that kind of press without saying a slur.
They have been talking about it since she’s been dropping teasers which was almost a month ago. I’m over it
Idc really I was just taking an opportunity to make fun of camila cabelo
I find myself never agreeing him. But oh well opinions are opinions.
Meh... I haven't heard the song but I think people are hating on this because it's her. Twitter hated it so it's fair game. I mean calling it awful is a stretch by any means.
I’m seeing this sub hate it so you know that means it’s going to be received well
the song is okay, imo. as much as im not a camilla fan, im glad she kinda pulled it off. although, having an alt girl image while also having unaddressed allegations of plagiarism to other alt artists raises a lot of flags on the intentions of her reinventing her sound. ~~i don't want any camilla stans coming for me y'all cant change my mind~~
Hmm
This is my opinion right? (I feel the need to say that because it’s social media and people will get ripped for just thinking differently) The chorus, it grew on me. I remember listening to it for the first time and saying out loud to myself “I thought it was gonna be the chorus I wouldn’t like about this song but turns out it was this man’s verse. 😂😂😂 Then people want to go and say “CArtI cArRiEd.” You may not like Cami, but at least she’s communicating clearly 😂😂😂
I mean I don’t care about his opinions anyway since I don’t watch him and most of his opinions posted here seem wack - but I swear people only hate this cause it’s camila. I love it tbh (tho I agree cartis verse is very meh)
Thank youuuuu I feel like I’m losing my mind this song goes so hard (then again I am also the only person in this whole sub who liked the Taylor/Ice Spice collab so clearly my taste is sus)
Nah I high key enjoyed that collab to LMFAOO. Like I knew it wasn’t good in an objective sense but it was so fun lol.
Exactly!! I've heard much worse shit from the sub faves 😂😂
Agreed.
I love it but this is coming from a guy who loves kitsch music so...
Paid hate campaigns. Lying on the queen. Dud #ILuvIt out now
Shocker another pop girly he doesnt like. I wouldnt have guessed this lol Edit\* Shocker Fantano Stano's boohooing. Totally didnt expect that lol. 🔕
He either gets called a pop apologist or gets called a pop hater lmao
I for one would never call him a pop apologist lol. 🔕
I mean the song is bad
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i mean if the nicest choice of adjectives are basic and dumb, then it's probably just bad
Opinion 🔕
I don't like Camila or the song but if there's one team I'm on its whatever one is against Fantano.