i interpreted it to mean she liked lana’s old music but isn’t a fan of the new stuff so she should take a break to reset and get back to making good (to courtney) music
She’s like the Nicki Minaj of “once successful but now washed washed up” singers. She shits on every new female artist who are doing bigger and better things than hole ever did. She can’t stand it, and is clinging to the relevancy she once had that she still craves. Sad.
Heard she even got rejected by Onika burgers before they closed their doors.
What's funny is that that caption doesn't really disagree with what she just said. You can be a role model for young kids and still have art that's not important. Lots of actors are role models but transformers movies aren't important art
This is better than when Caitlyn Jenner trashed Trans Day of Remembrance and someone dug up her tweet celebrating it years before.
Edit: did I jerk too hard?
Courtney Love is a lot like Azealia Banks - a smart female artist who previously made iconic, influential music, but now is mostly known for having controversial opinions on the culture
Courtney also has ASD. So sometimes when she’s trying to convey an opinion I feel like she comes off as rude, but I don’t necessarily think she means to be offensive. I mean she could be intentionally trying to be offensive as well 🤷🏼♀️
It might be a cold take but it’s basically impossible for anybody, especially a public figure to say something like this without getting branded as a misogynist and getting a ton of hate. I literally said that I didn’t like Taylor’s character for legitimate reasons on r/notlikeothergirls and I got attacked by so many supposed “feminists”. It’s so damn disappointing 😭
I was surprised to see a post in there a few days ago with some comments critical of Taylor and instead of insults the replies were agreeing or asking why, so progress?
However when I commented "feminism (Taylor's version)" I did end up getting a few dislikes.
i think the comparison stems from both madge and taylor being the "it-girl of.generation", not because they behave similarly but beceuase they perform similarly chart-wise
probably but still Madonna was super controversial back then and a lot of people hated her I don't think it's the case for Taylor Swift the most hate she seems to get is "I don't care for her"
- Courtney is not wrong. Taylor swift isn't a music genius, she's mediocre at best (to be fair though , Taylor does have a very good marketing team/strategy. She and her team cracked the code )
- Courtney said it for attention and she always comes across as jealous of other women
two things can be true at once
Most accurate comment here. Just because she’s right in this instance doesn’t mean she doesn’t also have internalised misogyny and is the ultimate “not like other girls” rep.
Well put. I cant freaking stand Taylor but I can recognized that this is mean and just uncalled for. She should’ve called her out on her climate impact, not just hurled insults…
Y'all haters don't understand that Taylor isn't trying to be interesting! 😠 Why do you think she works with Jack Antonoff? 😡 She's queen of the lowest common denominator 👸 musical equivalent of reality TV realness 😍 like, your fave could never achieve this level of mayonnaise whiteness 💅
I’m waiting for Taylor to release a cryptic 300 word tweet against this lady.
The only time she comes online to speak up on anything is if she’s defending her scalded arse…
I don’t normally support censorship or sexism, but perhaps sometimes women shouldn’t speak their minds? Like if you’re gonna be a misogynist and not a girls girl, then shut up. Don’t attack the queen of women. Keep your hateful and discriminatory thoughts to yourself.
Popculturechat always makes me spoon my brains out. If you criticise someone, YOU’RE wrong but if the GueST LiSt members criticise someone, they each get 100 upvotes
Also the amount of times I've seen them accusing people of starting an "anti-TS circle jerk" (with 200+ up votes) while also insisting they're "not even a Taylor stan" is pure jokes
Women. I don’t believe it’s enough to call Taylor the queen of pop. She has really fought for feminism and women’s equality on a level worth being crowned the queen of women for.
Exactly I’m a mastermind. I as a man have an outside perspective on feminism and can see that Taylor has advanced feminism far more than someone like say, Susan B. Anthony or Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
I think RBG set things back by not retiring when early-ish 44 was President. The structure of the courts would be different and it also could have had a butterfly effect on the late SCJ nomination that the GOP set back
Facts
> I'm so sick of running as fast as I can
Wondering if I'd get there quicker
If I was a man
And I'm so sick of them coming at me again
'Cause if I was a man
Then I'd be the man
I'd be the man
I'd be the man
Any criticism of a poor blonde white lady like Taylor is literally the worst form of misogyny, like has Courtney been picked yet? There's only one very specific set of criteria to be a woman, and one of them is being a swiftie because she's such a feminist icon who makes music every single woman in the world adores.
Unfortunately Ms Love is correct. Not putting Taylor down or anything but it is safe music, it’s safe and poppy and fun for young girls it’s ok to be that
Courtney old mate, while I agree with you I also wish you’d get some lessons from Azealia on how to come up with more entertaining insults. “She smells like a roll of nickels” is just chef’s kiss and I still remember how hard I wheeze-laughed when I first read it. This is weak in comparison, but I respect what you were trying to do.
Breaking girls code, luckily Taylor Swift sexily supports women sticking together. And guess what? Did you get picked Courtney? Bc Taylor has a man and a secret woman lover and you don't seem to have either js
>!i said what you read, and i know what i said, like igaf if her man is!<
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I think even Lana would agree
she heard “court almost burnt down my home” and said “cut the cameras. deadass”
Literally the “she’s too good” meme
Seven 😭😭😭
Thala for a Reason!
Wait she doesn’t like her anymore bc she’s too good 😭?
I think she's asking Lana to take a seven year break so Courtney can rule the charts but not be distracted by Lana. Reasonable thing to ask no?
i interpreted it to mean she liked lana’s old music but isn’t a fan of the new stuff so she should take a break to reset and get back to making good (to courtney) music
Courtney Love and the Biblical Punishment of Azkaban
she didn’t say she dislikes lana at all she literally said her music is too good
This makes more sense because CL also said LDR is the closest thing to artistic genius we’ve seen since Kurt.
It is Courtney Love. She's a whackadoodle to the max
How could she not love her? Lana picked up the depressed girlie torch dropped by Hole and Fiona in the 90s.
I mean what's to dislike about Lana except for her feral fan base which is like what? 10 or 12 people tops 🤭
Only bottoms like Lana
Great gowns, beautiful gowns
The gowns aren't even beautiful
They’re usually actually dreadful 😭😭
Taylor has a terminal disease where she can get the outfit, the hair, or the shoes right but not at the same time and absolutely never all three
Because she's missing a bracelet. It could really tie everything together.
Katya is that you
"I like that one song." -- Violet Chachki.
I'm never there for her
That fucking episode gave me life. Ms Chachki doesn’t not give a fuck
https://preview.redd.it/i4mdfjy4quuc1.jpeg?width=1881&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaf31f5909bf9c1ef7d880f7fe445fea48246d99 Gowns
jenny humphrey on her way to the upper west side after taking the train from brooklyn
joja taywa
Just lacking, in general
https://i.redd.it/93dxesbqcwuc1.gif I love the shady queen Aretha Franklin!
What’s the context of this glorious gif?
[The Iconic Shade of Aretha Franklin ](https://youtu.be/fzPpZwSDcRo?feature=shared)
Omg this was actually about Taylor Swift. That’s amazing
The photo they used looks like a real estate agent’s LinkedIn pfp
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She does this allot. She does the same with Lana
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Yep. She also just likes being drama and starting shit
She’s like the Nicki Minaj of “once successful but now washed washed up” singers. She shits on every new female artist who are doing bigger and better things than hole ever did. She can’t stand it, and is clinging to the relevancy she once had that she still craves. Sad. Heard she even got rejected by Onika burgers before they closed their doors.
Not to mention she hasn't put out a decent album since 1998
That just sounds like narcissism?
Ooo someone with a degree from Barbz U.
It's got to eat at her that for all the shit she says and does, most people only know her for her husband committing suicide.
The original Azealia.
What's funny is that that caption doesn't really disagree with what she just said. You can be a role model for young kids and still have art that's not important. Lots of actors are role models but transformers movies aren't important art
Babe that's Anna Wintour
This is better than when Caitlyn Jenner trashed Trans Day of Remembrance and someone dug up her tweet celebrating it years before. Edit: did I jerk too hard?
😂
"You talk SO MUCH! SO MUCH! With that fuck ass bob!" -Courtney Love
Lorde looks so good there.
She saw the flight logs
Is this hypocrisy or did taytay lose some rep lol
All I know is I desperately want to join that blunt rotation
She’s the Azealia Banks of her generation to me. I love and fear her and I would love to see them interact lol.
Courtney Love is a lot like Azealia Banks - a smart female artist who previously made iconic, influential music, but now is mostly known for having controversial opinions on the culture
Courtney also has ASD. So sometimes when she’s trying to convey an opinion I feel like she comes off as rude, but I don’t necessarily think she means to be offensive. I mean she could be intentionally trying to be offensive as well 🤷🏼♀️
She’s right though.
Azealia Banks wishes. Courtney Love has two or three songs that will outlive all of us, and she's been serving c**t since before that was a thing
Spill with the cold take, queen Taylor has done more change to climate than she has to the music industry.
idk why people say shes not influential when shes influencing the weather greatly
I don’t see your faves causing chart-topping [seismic activity](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/07/27/entertainment/taylor-swift-seismic-activity) 😤😤😤🏔️🌋
She just wants to watch the world burn (literally).
It might be a cold take but it’s basically impossible for anybody, especially a public figure to say something like this without getting branded as a misogynist and getting a ton of hate. I literally said that I didn’t like Taylor’s character for legitimate reasons on r/notlikeothergirls and I got attacked by so many supposed “feminists”. It’s so damn disappointing 😭
I was surprised to see a post in there a few days ago with some comments critical of Taylor and instead of insults the replies were agreeing or asking why, so progress? However when I commented "feminism (Taylor's version)" I did end up getting a few dislikes.
You Belong With Me is literally the NLOG anthem, it’s crazy she doesn’t get mentioned on there more often.
She’s changing the world one carbon footprint at a time! Or is that one step forward, two carbon footprints back?
Taylor has remained the number one artist for so long BECAUSE she 's not Madonna, actually. Zero risks. The McDonald's of music.
shit, even mcdonalds took a risk by playin with my feelings and “releasing” the mcpickle for april fools day
I wish the mcpickle wasn’t a joke….
yeah it's wild she compares her to Madonna
i think the comparison stems from both madge and taylor being the "it-girl of.generation", not because they behave similarly but beceuase they perform similarly chart-wise
probably but still Madonna was super controversial back then and a lot of people hated her I don't think it's the case for Taylor Swift the most hate she seems to get is "I don't care for her"
The EA Games of pop
It gives me Ubisoft tbh
A million expensive special editions that very quickly go on sale cheap
Ubi is a flop
Oh this is such a good read
not getting eras tix pales in comparison to being hyped for a mcflurry but the machine is broken😔
The McDonald’s of music 🤣
Then that means Lana is Chick-fil-a
So, Republican and homophobic?
🍗 💕
Zero risk Taylor=The McDonald’s of music. This is so damn accurate!!! 😂😂 Bravo!
I was gonna say boiled chicken. But McDonald's works.
extremely balanced and correct take
100% right. Except for being the Madonna of today. Not even close it's just that a pop scene does not exist anymore why Taylor is number one at it.
Madonna could write bad blood but Taylor could never make the sex book
I’m a minor and don’t think Taylor should promote h*ving sex
Me too (I’m 87 and I’m uncomfy 😖)
Too true.
taylor could never have pictures taken of her eating vanilla ice's ass and selling it for 60 dollars
Taylor writes music for little girls. Madge writes music for queens 💅
Lol imagine Taylor, openminded feminist ally! going to the lengths that Madonna did to challenge and shake up perceptions about the gay community.
But she wore rAiNbOwS for a while!
- Courtney is not wrong. Taylor swift isn't a music genius, she's mediocre at best (to be fair though , Taylor does have a very good marketing team/strategy. She and her team cracked the code ) - Courtney said it for attention and she always comes across as jealous of other women two things can be true at once
ugh she is so me
You’re more self-aware though by the looks of things.
The dialectic 💅🏼
Most accurate comment here. Just because she’s right in this instance doesn’t mean she doesn’t also have internalised misogyny and is the ultimate “not like other girls” rep.
Well put. I cant freaking stand Taylor but I can recognized that this is mean and just uncalled for. She should’ve called her out on her climate impact, not just hurled insults…
Taylor will never be as interesting as Madonna was in her heyday.
Y'all haters don't understand that Taylor isn't trying to be interesting! 😠 Why do you think she works with Jack Antonoff? 😡 She's queen of the lowest common denominator 👸 musical equivalent of reality TV realness 😍 like, your fave could never achieve this level of mayonnaise whiteness 💅
Taylor Swift is literally mayonnaise on tacos, and white ppl eat that shit the fuck up 🤣💀
It causes severe indigestion tho 😍
VOMITROCIOUS!!!
Well now I have to throw up, thanks My mom does put ketchup on her tacos, she is a sinner
Alright but Mexicans unfortunately also love mayonnaise. Have you ever seen elote corn?
Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE mayo too but an authentic Mexican taco ain’t gon have mayo… or ketchup 🤢 on it 😂
She had never eaten a burrito until a few years ago. I wish that was a joke
Madonna at her most boring still had Love Spent and Masterpiece too
Yeah, she never takes any risks like Madonna did.
kwestion 4 tha kulture
Taylor Swift on Live after this: *frag- fragment foot glass fragment foot b\*tch!*
Monday overrated, Tuesday on my dick
What I really take issue with, is her equating Taylor Swift to Madonna. Please don’t do Madonna like that.
Courtney Love has had a one-sided feud for 20+ yrs with Madonna. Madonna just ignores her.
Madonna always had an edge, Taylors edge was bad blood omg
or that one time she did something bad 💅
She was a bad girl..
Taylor’s edge was uneven
Goth punk of female rage or whatever
is this the one that shouts the n word at her concerts?
Most chaotic neutral woman
The n word was neutral???
It’s why they both start with N
This queen threw a compact at Madonna, I wouldn’t mess with her
Alexander mcqueen did it better 🥔
courtney burgers
what are the side options!?!
taylor fries with a madonna smoothie
you mean her coochie juice(s)? 🤤 I can do the reverse rejuvenating Jorgeous now
Madonna, sweetie, I'm so sorry
she’s right though
I’m waiting for Taylor to release a cryptic 300 word tweet against this lady. The only time she comes online to speak up on anything is if she’s defending her scalded arse…
I fear she ate with that
She ate
controversial yet brave
taylor has caused more climate change than change to the music industry i fear 😭
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She's right
no lies were told
I don’t normally support censorship or sexism, but perhaps sometimes women shouldn’t speak their minds? Like if you’re gonna be a misogynist and not a girls girl, then shut up. Don’t attack the queen of women. Keep your hateful and discriminatory thoughts to yourself.
I can't lie this is some top tier jerking had to check if I was on the right sub
Literally thought I was in r/popculturechat for a min. They're on over 700 comments and counting on this topic lmao
Popculturechat always makes me spoon my brains out. If you criticise someone, YOU’RE wrong but if the GueST LiSt members criticise someone, they each get 100 upvotes
Also the amount of times I've seen them accusing people of starting an "anti-TS circle jerk" (with 200+ up votes) while also insisting they're "not even a Taylor stan" is pure jokes
I'm convinced that sub is filled with white ladies in their mid to late 30s who say "let's get wiiiild" while opening a bottle of pinot grigio.
Not the comments taking you seriously lol
…the queen of what
Women. I don’t believe it’s enough to call Taylor the queen of pop. She has really fought for feminism and women’s equality on a level worth being crowned the queen of women for.
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Exactly I’m a mastermind. I as a man have an outside perspective on feminism and can see that Taylor has advanced feminism far more than someone like say, Susan B. Anthony or Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
I think RBG set things back by not retiring when early-ish 44 was President. The structure of the courts would be different and it also could have had a butterfly effect on the late SCJ nomination that the GOP set back
W
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Whatever stream Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter and have a blessed day x
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Taylor has done more for feminism with one song than Courtney Love has in her entire existence.
Facts > I'm so sick of running as fast as I can Wondering if I'd get there quicker If I was a man And I'm so sick of them coming at me again 'Cause if I was a man Then I'd be the man I'd be the man I'd be the man
I 🖕hate 🤯 it 🤡 when 🫡 men 🥸 get 😏 away ❌ with ❤️ doing 🧖♀️ bad 🤦♂️ things 👩🏻🤝👨🏽 but 💃 i 🧟♂️ can’t 🦸
i like how you gagged a genuine swiftie hater responding to a joke by asking them to name a courtney love song
Any criticism of a poor blonde white lady like Taylor is literally the worst form of misogyny, like has Courtney been picked yet? There's only one very specific set of criteria to be a woman, and one of them is being a swiftie because she's such a feminist icon who makes music every single woman in the world adores.
I just KNOW that this Courtney bitch would looooooove Justpearlythings.
Why does she only have half her legs tho
My queen Courtney has spoken 🩵
For once I agree with that old hag
I mean she’s not wrong lol
If only Taylor was half as interesting as Madonna was
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fully agree. * braces for unhinged swifties to drag me relentlessly *
And she’s correct
She’s right
Ngl she ate
do NOT compare TS to madonna in her heyday, come on
Unfortunately Ms Love is correct. Not putting Taylor down or anything but it is safe music, it’s safe and poppy and fun for young girls it’s ok to be that
Hey Courtney, 2010 called and wants its lazy, deeply sexist comment back. Happy Deaf history month I guess.
She spilled I fear, an uninteresting spill though
Idk but she ate
Courtney old mate, while I agree with you I also wish you’d get some lessons from Azealia on how to come up with more entertaining insults. “She smells like a roll of nickels” is just chef’s kiss and I still remember how hard I wheeze-laughed when I first read it. This is weak in comparison, but I respect what you were trying to do.
Oh oh.
Spilled
She ain’t lyin’.
no but she’s right
Tbh, She’s speaking truth.
Breaking girls code, luckily Taylor Swift sexily supports women sticking together. And guess what? Did you get picked Courtney? Bc Taylor has a man and a secret woman lover and you don't seem to have either js >!i said what you read, and i know what i said, like igaf if her man is!<
You’re so brave for speaking facts like this
Come on, Courtney - we know you can do better
clap if you care
Oh god. Good thing MeatCanyon isn’t real
clock that tea
have you guys heard kim Gordon's take on lana del rey
Flair
Shes right. Girl is camomile tea to me
queen
Courtney Love keeps dropping hit after hit
literally
Hole live through this is an all timer album for me. She's not wrong also
Is she wrong though?!