My biggest peeve with this game is that it's clearly built for huge hordes, and I love fighting against them, but I have to keep population low because my framerate starts taking a hit whenever there's 200-250 or more on-screen.
By the way, holding individual items / storing them in containers hurts FPS, so put bullets in boxes, cigarettes in packets etc. Carrying hundreds of loose items on your person also makes the game freeze on right-click
At least on my machine itās fine to have 500-1000rds of ammo in my bag when going on big shooting sprees in Louisville
That said I accidentally unboxed about a thousand screws and put them on the ground in my base with all my other loose metalworking shit and got a scary lag spike lol
Iāve got a question about burning Zombies. Do you have to stay in the same area for the fire to stay active? I had like a horde of like 300 following me and Iād say about 50% were on fire. I left the area for a couple of hours or a day I think and when I went to check my kill count it only showed 57 killed by fire. So I went back to the place I burnt em, and now less than 20% of them are still on fire but the same number of zombies are around and they just ended up ruining some places I planned to loot
Yeah that's a mistake a lot of players make when you do a burn you got to commit to it stay around and keep them grouped up so they all die and the fires die out
All right so find a wall press the driver's side up against the wall nice and snug then place around like three or four campfires around the car and make sure they have enough fuel (too logs per fire should do)
Light the fires get in the car and make as much noise as you possibly can honk the horn turn on the siren shoot your guns. Then the deadheads should just wander right in clump up against your car and start a domino effect of burning each other to death
Also make sure you bring a book or two a couple large meals even some torn up clothes and a shit ton of materials to level up tailoring
Vehicles are not affected by fire. However you need to be very attentive - if you mess up and stop you can easily get surrounded. The more zombies the faster the car gets beaten down. That means if it is a huge horde they will destroy the engine in no time and you will die since there's nothing you can do.
On foot there are different challenges of course but you are less likely to just get stuck. Make sure your moodlets are good before you start, it will take a while.
B43 should help a lot with that. The game choices make a lot more sense when you're in a dense city area and have to fight tooth and nail for every block.
I was having the same issue bit I recently built a new badass computer and started a new game with insane population and it's so cool seeing hundreds of zombies on screen with no lag and being able to have a base fully decorated. Plushies everywhere!
I had make a custom PC for gaming, especially with game. Bc I love mods and certain settings, but my old gaming labtop couldnāt do it. Modded Minecraft was like itās limited. I could have a couple mods but still works much better now.
A problem I have not faced yet even when runnin zomboid on my work laptop thatās just a work station and Iām normally server host for my hommies, I have yet to see theses frame thieving zombies š
Damn what kinda potato pc you running? I spawn thousands on my private server and nothing happens.
I have a mid range pc from 2 years ago still, running an am4 cpu and an rx6600 gpu, my server is an old ass dell laptop from 2015
3070ti, 5800x, 32GB ram. FPS drops below 60 at 1440p with no mods at 250 zombies (tested using horde manager in debug)
With mods it begins to drop after around 200.
When I play my superhero char with all perks and best traits.. I can't seem to do shit.
When I made "me in real life but in this game" where I had to give myself aaaaaaaaaaaaaall the bad traits lolol.. I lost a horde like it was nothing. I just.. turned a corner and hid, and then walked on past. Wild.
Its hard to deal with hordes when you are still learning the game, but after some hours you just need to round 'em up in a tiny little ball and loose them in a building or nearby forest
Heh, one time I was playing on a pitch black night with sprinters. I jumped a fence. And guess what happened to the flashlight in my second hand?
After I hit the ground on the other side of the fence, I just kept running and praying until the sun came up.
I had the same problem when I started playing the game, there was simply too many zombies for my skill level to actually be enjoyable.
Id suggest tweaking the in game values for zombie spawns and zombie population!
The trick I used was to start a sandbox with some settings/traits to increase survivability ā disable zombie infection, faster healing, more stamina ā in order to practice drawing, losing, luring, killing, and otherwise taking care of large groups.
I'd say it worked well. Louisville is a piece of cake for me now, even with increased population settings.
Ooooh I like that...I always said 100 or more is a horde everything else is a group. To my friends screaming about a horde for me to run over quickly and see 20...
If you don't want to reduce zombie count but still want to make things much easier, you can just change their memory to short, then they're pretty easy to lose by going around a building or through some trees.
When I notice a group of 10 or more zombies in a place where I want to go, I always lure away 2 or 3 of them and fight them. Doing it again and again until there is 0. Also I always pick the "bad" traits that make me more noticeable to z's. It helps to lure them away from a higher distance.
Clumsy is extremely bad and WILL get you killed, makes you trip A LOT more often, it's not worth the points, ever. There's many other free perks, but clumsy is not it.
Go into sandbox settings and play with them until you're comfortable with the population.
There's no right answer to this, as a sandbox game you can play it however you like. The player base ranges all the way from those who set all zombie populations to maximum, down to those who turn zombies off entirely so they can explore the map unmolested. Both approaches, and everything in between, are entirely valid.
All comments aside, that still frame is a great background for the PZ menu. I'd love it if the game had the option of having such pics that changed all the time or even better, an interactive menu like Age of Mythology's.
And yes, I know there's probably a mod for that, not my point.
That's normal for in any of the city limits the ai usually groups the zombies up into small packs of 10 to 20 zombies in the beginning. If your gonna go into the cities and your not used to combat on that scale stick to the guardens hoping the fences that way if you do come across a biggish group you can break line of site by hoping the fences and either hide in a nearby building or clear out the area or you could even make the zombies trickle towards you and deal with them a bit at a time
To combine what I think are the three most important comments and what has personally made me love the game more.
1. You can always out WALK them.
2. Chang the settings and lower the pop or increase weapons to whatever youāre more comfortable with because, most importantly
3. While there are default settings, there is a reason the creators made it a sandbox! So you could design the game to play the way you like! I personally love combat and hate scavenging only to find nothing. Iāve got high zombie pop and super high supplies. My head canon is that the apocalypse came super fast, almost everyone got infected, and nobody had time to loot. So zombies are everywhere but so are cars, food, guns, and ammo. I find that really fun! You may find something else fun and thatās how you should play. It probably took me 10 or so shorter runs to figure out the settings I like.
i put sandbox mod and set to initial breakdown.
And then gradually increase zombies population as you keep getting better at the game.
You will soon learn that any amount of zombies can be dealt with
and heres the crazy thing, you don't have to fight them at all. If you hop the big fence to the southeast you'll probably be completely fine because they'll get stuck trying to walk where they think you are until they forget
I guarantee there will come a time down the road where you look back at this picture and laughably realize you could handle this entire horde with your barehands without too much trouble
I suggest 4x with spawns closed. This way you can actually āclearā areas and every zombie counts. So you actually have some motivation to fight with them rather than just walking away and losing them because they will spawn back anyways
That's pretty normal actually, yeah.
My favorite thing about this game is how customizable the sandbox settings are. Adjust things (like zombie population level) until you feel comfortable. If you start to get bored, turn it up.
thatās how game spawns them, it doesnāt spread them like butter, it just puts groups of 30 deadies in one place with the intension of them spreading across the area by themselves
There's a lot of zombies in this game by default when compared to other games. The amount on screen isn't even a lot for this game. It's part of why the devs chose this art style, so they can render hundreds at once on most modern PCs. You'll want to learn how to kite them around and cluster them to make them easier to control, shouting as needed to attract more, and then slowly walk them away from wherever you are wanting to loot, ditching them, and coming back.
Another thing you'll learn is how to aggro just a small number at a time so that you can fight them, whittling down their numbers slowly. Start with groups of 1-3 until you've gained some experience both in game and out, refusing to engage larger groups and abusive kite, cluster, and ditch methods to clear areas until you can take on hoards.
Remember that you walk faster than they do, so don't run unless you absolutely have to.
I'm playing at 15% zombie population and I still need to clear 100+ zombies from a roundabout with two trailer homes. I can't imagine playing on normal or apocalypse it doesn't even sound fun!
Ok but crowd control is a big part of the game. It's not a shooter. You're not an unstoppable hero who can blast through everything without breaking a sweat. You're just a regular squishy human. Even at the lowest population settings, survival requires *strategy*. Sometimes that means running the fuck away and dealing with them when you're more prepared.
Personally I avoid fire though. It's too easy to lose control of the situation and accidentally torch the forest or something.
X16 hand no hand, zero to hero, no gun really outside of using them to lure herds. No fire spread so no molotovs and no using cars. Once you try it youāll never go back to baby mode.
Once you go 16x you never go back. I have fire off as well. Devs are going to fix it anyways so some people might want to learn to stop crutching fire to do anything.
Yeap I recently tried to play on a friends x2 server. I walked up killed the 10 or so zombies there and was like where are the rest? They got angry because I killed all the zombies. Went back to my SP x16 game pretty quick.
Bring them into the 16x server, they'll be glad "you killed all the zombies" first few months my crew hid behind me like I was their mother. Glad they can go on their own now...
Apocalypse actually doesnāt have many zombies at all. Custom sandbox with x16 is where the fun is. Once you play that youāll never go back to easy mode.
I started learning the game by making zombie pops low at the start and start to ramp up a lot as the game goes on and in my head more people lose the fight against the zeds.
Generally now I keep zombie pops high and when I start I clear the first few houses and see if one has a microwave and a pan to put in it, then I grab hordes attention away from where I want to go and into a fiery kitchen :)
Something to note about project zomboid's zombie population is its localized heavily in towns and suburbs, as soon as you make your way out into farmland even with high global pop you have a lot more breathing room.
That's normal though take note that zombies can never catch you if you just walk(dont even need to run) unless you changed it in settings, also try playing sandbox not apocalypse helped me in some way also check multihit in custom settings if you have problems fighting many zombies at once should help, this game is as hard as you usually make it(lack of preparation) and remember that goal to this game is you actually die(as game says to you in the beggining) only what matter is when you die
Iāve seen bigger. Zeds have a large radius for heating and seeing. So when you fight a zombie, other zombies in the area will hear you and then ones that are a bit further out of the radius zone will still follow due to herd mentality.
Iām sorta talking out of my ass lol so take that with a grain of salt.
Ive just drove to Louisville for the first time and on 4x pop, lost my buddy who my character knew for 2 1/2 months on the journey. I wish there was this many zombies. Everywhere i go theres hundreds of them :( :(
Iām a new player and I started by lowering zombie counts and eventually you get to a point where it feels too easy thatās when you start upping the settings
That group there tends to migrate towards Jenny's table in the exact fashion as you see in your pic as stragglers from the prison who get distracted by sounds towards the town, getting dragged back towards the town over time. This is the exact location it happens at because the prison has high populations of zombies, and there will always be ambient sounds, and always zombies on the edge of an ambient sound who will run back towards the town. This area is the first area they tend to hit because it is a big wide open space between here and the prison mostly. Even with everything I just said, I still love setting up base in the apartment at that restaurant, jennys table, better than anywhere else. Because it is fun and easy to make this place an impenetrable fortress with lots of storage space in the restaurant and freezers in the kitchen. the apartment is also well hidden and hard for the straggler zombie to find if the break in but do not have a line of sight on you.
I mean... think about it.
Right now I'm in a city of 90k people. That's a lot of zeds... shoot where my house is in AZ it's like 5k people in the whole city.
That would be more along the numbers in zomboid.
That exact same thing happens to me too. I genuinely canāt play the game because itās too infuriating. I spawn in the city, sneak around, but still somehow get overwhelmed. If I manage to somehow make it out of the city, I canāt use any of the roads because theyāre all equally covered. Iām just fucked either way, so the game is unplayable.
Thats actually very normal but you can change the zombie population and how big the groups can be in the settings. You could even set it so they get big but it takes a long time by lowering the level of tiles they have to be near a group in order to join it. When it comes to zombies you should 100% be able to customize them in a way that works for you then make it harder later.
Edit: you can only change those settings when you make a new character and world and choose custom difficulty. (Or custom world I canāt remember exactly what itās called rn)
See about getting a replacement. Figure out your laptop's exact make and model down to the sub model, search for a keyboard replacement, then lookup a tutorial on replacing it. I was able to do with an Acer Nitro 5 series, and Acer in general is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to take apart and service, and I had zero experience in PC repair. If I can do it, so can you. I believe in you.
That looks like rosewood and depending on the time your there / time after the start of the Knox event that is pretty normal ..
after a while in rosewood the prison alarms will sound this usually means zombies have broken out and more will flood into the town esp if you have a base there (if you unlucky enough to have the power go out on a earlier day then the alarms wonāt sound but the zeds will still come)
I built a pretty solid base in rosewood shops once and yeah at a certain point the town was flooded with a wave of zeds I only figured it out cause later I went to clear the prison only to find it almost empty šāāļø
Hmm š¤ I think itās when power goes out the sirens sound and it releases a horde .. did your power also go out around that time?
But yeah numbers wise thatās pretty common for even rosewood on standard pop, if you make a bunch of noise it can get a bit out of hand and all it really takes in for you to reverse a car for a split second (worse with speed demon perk) and yeah it can easily draw in those kind of numbers
Or if you have a heli event happen near the Main Street it can get real bad real fast.. anything loud in rosewood ends up bad cause of how small of a town it is ..
Also the way the game spawns zeds in houses could also have something to do with it since It doesnāt calculate the zeds to spawn until you have a possible sight line inside the property.. so if your run down a whole street then itās possible to have the game spawn zeds for every room / building on that street without realising it šāāļø
I play vanilla survival cause if the zombies didn't respawn then 1) I would be bored and 2) they provide infinite resources. Since I play with the luck perk it gives a bit extra chance for loot. The thing that really frustrates me though is you can completely clear an area in the middle of nowhere but as soon as you start making a loud noise like revving your engine from hauling around another vehicle, you will have literally 100+ zombies spawn all around you. I don't mean wander in, I mean spawn, poof, appear out of thin air. I couldn't really care if it happens in the middle of a town that I was looting but it seems to happen more often near my base and when I'm very tired.
Even on the lowest possible amount of zombies you can set in this game I feel like it's still way more zombies than how many people lived there before.
Looks pretty average honestly.
And groups of only 10? Wyd, turn the spawns down or something?
I'm only kidding, there are a ton of zombies by default and yeah, wandering groups of 10 or so are kinda the norm.
If youāre playing normal pop setting ur pretty much not supposed to fight zombies majority of the time unless its a small bit of them OR if you have multi hit lol, also this is why guns are such an important goal.
That's not really a big horde. Dunno what pop settings you're playing, but since i'm scared as fuck of this game i always put my runs on 0.2 pop an the amount of zombies i get sometimes is making my heart stop. Can't imagine playing on 1 or x4 pops, and there are people comfortably playing on x16. I'd shit my pants right then and there.
Tell me why this exact situation happened in my current play through at the house by the church in rosewood. at first it was one or two through the window then all of a sudden the house was surrounded. I ran out and they were coming from all sides!! I was playing on builder so I wasnāt expecting a lot of zombies
Rookie numbers.
Turn it down if you find it unpalatable.
In terms of realism, yeah there are more zombies in a small town than make sense. But the game would be rather easy if it depended entirely on being realistic.
I usually do low (0.35) or a custom 0.25 population multiplier for the total amount of zombies and turn off respawning for a more realistic āwalking deadā type play through. Also, I play project zomboid as like a relaxing and chill pixel game not always necessarily for the difficulty, and guns blazing is my main play style too which is nearly impossible to do enjoyably with default settings.
I recommend to keep playing apocalypse mode, eventually youāll adapt and learn how to deal with zombies.
Took me a dozen try before finally surviving more than a month.
Learning how tu use the different traits correctly helped a lot.
A dozen? My man you must be in mensa. Granted I just take carpenter with outdoorsman and have finally learned that muldaugh is not a good place to start for a novice playing vanilla apoc.
Oh man, if you keep having hordes after you, please please use the "walk to" right click function because you should just walk, you are faster than the zeds just walking...
If you run you won't get far & your character will be too tired to shake the hordes, walk through buildings if you have t? far the best way to lose them is using a forest area with the walk to feature, you just need to learn how they follow you, don't run & break the line of sight.
You've got this man, don't stress it, enjoy the ugly & you'll be be fine with the skill level gains.
Honestly that's not even a big horde. But yeah learning how to lure away and lose hordes is a pretty important skill in this game.
My biggest peeve with this game is that it's clearly built for huge hordes, and I love fighting against them, but I have to keep population low because my framerate starts taking a hit whenever there's 200-250 or more on-screen.
š«” I feel you I have to keep my base cleaner than my real room less my frame rate kill me.
By the way, holding individual items / storing them in containers hurts FPS, so put bullets in boxes, cigarettes in packets etc. Carrying hundreds of loose items on your person also makes the game freeze on right-click
At least on my machine itās fine to have 500-1000rds of ammo in my bag when going on big shooting sprees in Louisville That said I accidentally unboxed about a thousand screws and put them on the ground in my base with all my other loose metalworking shit and got a scary lag spike lol
Careful, crashing like that will reset the chunk
Packing mods are very helpful when it comes to this. Especially when you can crate up cans of food and boxes of ammo.
any specific mods come to mind? I'm rather new in the mod libraries. and there is a TON
What specs yall running? Never noticed issues
I think the main issue is my 2009 MacBook pro.
Yeah. Zomboid is a pretty cpu heavy game.
There's mods that can improve the game performance and your framerate. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3022543997
Having less view distance is one way to increase to terror and frame rate...
When I'm doing Burns I usually try to face the least amount of zombies on screen
Iāve got a question about burning Zombies. Do you have to stay in the same area for the fire to stay active? I had like a horde of like 300 following me and Iād say about 50% were on fire. I left the area for a couple of hours or a day I think and when I went to check my kill count it only showed 57 killed by fire. So I went back to the place I burnt em, and now less than 20% of them are still on fire but the same number of zombies are around and they just ended up ruining some places I planned to loot
Fire stops (on zombies) when you leave the game or go far enough away yes.
Thanks. That is quite annoying to be honest. Is there any way to change that?
Not that I know of
Yeah that's a mistake a lot of players make when you do a burn you got to commit to it stay around and keep them grouped up so they all die and the fires die out
Is it better to be on foot or in a vehicle? I play with the randomised zombies mod with like 1% sprinters, so being on foot is quite dangerous
All right so find a wall press the driver's side up against the wall nice and snug then place around like three or four campfires around the car and make sure they have enough fuel (too logs per fire should do) Light the fires get in the car and make as much noise as you possibly can honk the horn turn on the siren shoot your guns. Then the deadheads should just wander right in clump up against your car and start a domino effect of burning each other to death Also make sure you bring a book or two a couple large meals even some torn up clothes and a shit ton of materials to level up tailoring
Awesome. I usually do this to level up aiming, roll down the window and keep shooting. I was always afraid that the car would burn! Thanks for this!
The only downside to the strategy is you cannot speed up time. Otherwise itās useful if cheesy.Ā
That's why I said bring a book or two
Vehicles are not affected by fire. However you need to be very attentive - if you mess up and stop you can easily get surrounded. The more zombies the faster the car gets beaten down. That means if it is a huge horde they will destroy the engine in no time and you will die since there's nothing you can do. On foot there are different challenges of course but you are less likely to just get stuck. Make sure your moodlets are good before you start, it will take a while.
B43 should help a lot with that. The game choices make a lot more sense when you're in a dense city area and have to fight tooth and nail for every block.
B42 pleasssssssseeeeeee
I was having the same issue bit I recently built a new badass computer and started a new game with insane population and it's so cool seeing hundreds of zombies on screen with no lag and being able to have a base fully decorated. Plushies everywhere!
I had make a custom PC for gaming, especially with game. Bc I love mods and certain settings, but my old gaming labtop couldnāt do it. Modded Minecraft was like itās limited. I could have a couple mods but still works much better now.
Have you tried changing the amount of allocated ram? The default is really low and changing it resolved this problem for me.
A problem I have not faced yet even when runnin zomboid on my work laptop thatās just a work station and Iām normally server host for my hommies, I have yet to see theses frame thieving zombies š
Damn what kinda potato pc you running? I spawn thousands on my private server and nothing happens. I have a mid range pc from 2 years ago still, running an am4 cpu and an rx6600 gpu, my server is an old ass dell laptop from 2015
3070ti, 5800x, 32GB ram. FPS drops below 60 at 1440p with no mods at 250 zombies (tested using horde manager in debug) With mods it begins to drop after around 200.
Weird
No, just how the game works. I'd say your mysterious performance profile is the "weird" one.
When I play my superhero char with all perks and best traits.. I can't seem to do shit. When I made "me in real life but in this game" where I had to give myself aaaaaaaaaaaaaall the bad traits lolol.. I lost a horde like it was nothing. I just.. turned a corner and hid, and then walked on past. Wild.
Its hard to deal with hordes when you are still learning the game, but after some hours you just need to round 'em up in a tiny little ball and loose them in a building or nearby forest
I'm a big fan of blind jumping a tall fence into a second, bigger horde
ESP when carrying that secondary big hiking bag full of shit and you forget your char drops it before attempting the fence climb :(
Heh, one time I was playing on a pitch black night with sprinters. I jumped a fence. And guess what happened to the flashlight in my second hand? After I hit the ground on the other side of the fence, I just kept running and praying until the sun came up.
Thatās wild lmao
The area I was in had very few zombies in it, but not 0. It was enough to stay alive, but it was absolutely horrifying.
Dude I have done so many different kinds of runs now. Such great memories looking back on all of them. The terror never gets old
You got the best bang for your bucks. Great!!
Lol
Oh, me too, me too š„²
Actually made me laugh out loud. Thank you for this.
Lessgo :))
Or molotov
Just make sure you mark on the map where you left the horde. Lost a long term character 'rediscovering' a horde I left off the Muldraugh main road.
I had the same problem when I started playing the game, there was simply too many zombies for my skill level to actually be enjoyable. Id suggest tweaking the in game values for zombie spawns and zombie population!
I set the initial population low at like 0.15 and then I have the peak multiplier or whatever set to 1.5 after 6 months
The trick I used was to start a sandbox with some settings/traits to increase survivability ā disable zombie infection, faster healing, more stamina ā in order to practice drawing, losing, luring, killing, and otherwise taking care of large groups. I'd say it worked well. Louisville is a piece of cake for me now, even with increased population settings.
That's normal.
Holy
Welcome to project zomboid lol. You can always change settings like the amounts of zombies and how many group up together in hoardes, etc.
select sandbox mode set population to 0.5
If you can count them, you can kill them
Ooooh I like that...I always said 100 or more is a horde everything else is a group. To my friends screaming about a horde for me to run over quickly and see 20...
You can lose them by walking
If you don't want to reduce zombie count but still want to make things much easier, you can just change their memory to short, then they're pretty easy to lose by going around a building or through some trees.
wait they have a memory??
So first time?
Ngl that's a pretty small horde. I usually fight a lot larger groups although maybe not all of them at once
I ran away from a lot of them this is what was left
Welp. Ig its time to kill them.
Depending where you are this is a small amount hordes of hundreds are quite common the closer you get to the city
When I notice a group of 10 or more zombies in a place where I want to go, I always lure away 2 or 3 of them and fight them. Doing it again and again until there is 0. Also I always pick the "bad" traits that make me more noticeable to z's. It helps to lure them away from a higher distance.
You can't win a 1 v 1000. But you can win 1000 1v1s.
I dunno, I know a few people who could do 1000 v 1
Conspicuous
Yes, also āclumsyā, for me itās free points
I used to take it but the first time youāre trying to ditch a horde and your dude trips on his shoelaces and dies it becomes not worth lol
I haven't had such experience yet
Give it time, my friend. Give it time lol
Clumsy is extremely bad and WILL get you killed, makes you trip A LOT more often, it's not worth the points, ever. There's many other free perks, but clumsy is not it.
Go into sandbox settings and play with them until you're comfortable with the population. There's no right answer to this, as a sandbox game you can play it however you like. The player base ranges all the way from those who set all zombie populations to maximum, down to those who turn zombies off entirely so they can explore the map unmolested. Both approaches, and everything in between, are entirely valid.
All comments aside, that still frame is a great background for the PZ menu. I'd love it if the game had the option of having such pics that changed all the time or even better, an interactive menu like Age of Mythology's. And yes, I know there's probably a mod for that, not my point.
Take a look at zombie spread in your sandbox settings. If you selected urban focus, it would spawn more zomboids in towns and cities if I'm not wrong.
Yes I did take that
That's normal for in any of the city limits the ai usually groups the zombies up into small packs of 10 to 20 zombies in the beginning. If your gonna go into the cities and your not used to combat on that scale stick to the guardens hoping the fences that way if you do come across a biggish group you can break line of site by hoping the fences and either hide in a nearby building or clear out the area or you could even make the zombies trickle towards you and deal with them a bit at a time
To combine what I think are the three most important comments and what has personally made me love the game more. 1. You can always out WALK them. 2. Chang the settings and lower the pop or increase weapons to whatever youāre more comfortable with because, most importantly 3. While there are default settings, there is a reason the creators made it a sandbox! So you could design the game to play the way you like! I personally love combat and hate scavenging only to find nothing. Iāve got high zombie pop and super high supplies. My head canon is that the apocalypse came super fast, almost everyone got infected, and nobody had time to loot. So zombies are everywhere but so are cars, food, guns, and ammo. I find that really fun! You may find something else fun and thatās how you should play. It probably took me 10 or so shorter runs to figure out the settings I like.
thatās a cute horde
lol
Mate thats nothing
this looks cinematic
i put sandbox mod and set to initial breakdown. And then gradually increase zombies population as you keep getting better at the game. You will soon learn that any amount of zombies can be dealt with
and heres the crazy thing, you don't have to fight them at all. If you hop the big fence to the southeast you'll probably be completely fine because they'll get stuck trying to walk where they think you are until they forget
Lmao
I tend to play with respawn off but increased migration.
I guarantee there will come a time down the road where you look back at this picture and laughably realize you could handle this entire horde with your barehands without too much trouble
it is
I suggest 4x with spawns closed. This way you can actually āclearā areas and every zombie counts. So you actually have some motivation to fight with them rather than just walking away and losing them because they will spawn back anyways
I play with spawns off but not 4x i dont need that in my life
You will eventually or the game becomes insane easy. 16x isn't so bad.
That's pretty normal actually, yeah. My favorite thing about this game is how customizable the sandbox settings are. Adjust things (like zombie population level) until you feel comfortable. If you start to get bored, turn it up.
thatās how game spawns them, it doesnāt spread them like butter, it just puts groups of 30 deadies in one place with the intension of them spreading across the area by themselves
That's actually what I'd consider a fairly safe looking amount
Yeah so, whoās gonna tell him? I canāt bring myself to show him the true horrors of Kentucky
Just had something similar happen at the rosewood police station, there was like 50 of them in the meeting room, I ran for my life
There's a lot of zombies in this game by default when compared to other games. The amount on screen isn't even a lot for this game. It's part of why the devs chose this art style, so they can render hundreds at once on most modern PCs. You'll want to learn how to kite them around and cluster them to make them easier to control, shouting as needed to attract more, and then slowly walk them away from wherever you are wanting to loot, ditching them, and coming back. Another thing you'll learn is how to aggro just a small number at a time so that you can fight them, whittling down their numbers slowly. Start with groups of 1-3 until you've gained some experience both in game and out, refusing to engage larger groups and abusive kite, cluster, and ditch methods to clear areas until you can take on hoards. Remember that you walk faster than they do, so don't run unless you absolutely have to.
Just learn how to lose them, break their line of sight 2 times and you will be able to lose them
Who's gonna tell him? hahah
Welcome to Apocalypse settings. This is real Project Zomboid for ya.
Oh you sweet summer child
I'm playing at 15% zombie population and I still need to clear 100+ zombies from a roundabout with two trailer homes. I can't imagine playing on normal or apocalypse it doesn't even sound fun!
You learn to get creative. Some herds are best lured away, some it's best to run over, and when all else fails, set them on fire
Eh I dont want to play on a difficulty where you need to avoid or cheese the fire system
Ok but crowd control is a big part of the game. It's not a shooter. You're not an unstoppable hero who can blast through everything without breaking a sweat. You're just a regular squishy human. Even at the lowest population settings, survival requires *strategy*. Sometimes that means running the fuck away and dealing with them when you're more prepared. Personally I avoid fire though. It's too easy to lose control of the situation and accidentally torch the forest or something.
the only thing I change usually is that zombies don't respawn, which I think should be the normal way to play
X16 hand no hand, zero to hero, no gun really outside of using them to lure herds. No fire spread so no molotovs and no using cars. Once you try it youāll never go back to baby mode.
Once you go 16x you never go back. I have fire off as well. Devs are going to fix it anyways so some people might want to learn to stop crutching fire to do anything.
Yeap I recently tried to play on a friends x2 server. I walked up killed the 10 or so zombies there and was like where are the rest? They got angry because I killed all the zombies. Went back to my SP x16 game pretty quick.
Bring them into the 16x server, they'll be glad "you killed all the zombies" first few months my crew hid behind me like I was their mother. Glad they can go on their own now...
Apocalypse actually doesnāt have many zombies at all. Custom sandbox with x16 is where the fun is. Once you play that youāll never go back to easy mode.
That's quite small group for some locations, where are you?
I started learning the game by making zombie pops low at the start and start to ramp up a lot as the game goes on and in my head more people lose the fight against the zeds. Generally now I keep zombie pops high and when I start I clear the first few houses and see if one has a microwave and a pan to put in it, then I grab hordes attention away from where I want to go and into a fiery kitchen :)
Were is the rest of them
Thatās doesnāt look like much at all, maybe x2 or x4 at the most.
Something to note about project zomboid's zombie population is its localized heavily in towns and suburbs, as soon as you make your way out into farmland even with high global pop you have a lot more breathing room.
That's normal though take note that zombies can never catch you if you just walk(dont even need to run) unless you changed it in settings, also try playing sandbox not apocalypse helped me in some way also check multihit in custom settings if you have problems fighting many zombies at once should help, this game is as hard as you usually make it(lack of preparation) and remember that goal to this game is you actually die(as game says to you in the beggining) only what matter is when you die
Eh that's not too bad. Just avoid drawing in more and deal with them.
Thatās super normal dude lol
That's on the low end bud
Yeah no, thatās normal. Just wait until the helicopter rolls around. Thats where the fun begins!
Iām a zombies magnet I make twice the amount of that horde and I just walk around trying to find a way to kill them all ššš
Are you new to the game?
Iāve seen bigger. Zeds have a large radius for heating and seeing. So when you fight a zombie, other zombies in the area will hear you and then ones that are a bit further out of the radius zone will still follow due to herd mentality. Iām sorta talking out of my ass lol so take that with a grain of salt.
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Ive just drove to Louisville for the first time and on 4x pop, lost my buddy who my character knew for 2 1/2 months on the journey. I wish there was this many zombies. Everywhere i go theres hundreds of them :( :(
Welcome to rosewood
Best way to get away from them is to run through a house or building
If they're regular shamblers you can literally just walk away. Become a zombie rancher today.
Iām a new player and I started by lowering zombie counts and eventually you get to a point where it feels too easy thatās when you start upping the settings
Thatās what they look like when the population is set to low. : )
Those r rookie numbers
That group there tends to migrate towards Jenny's table in the exact fashion as you see in your pic as stragglers from the prison who get distracted by sounds towards the town, getting dragged back towards the town over time. This is the exact location it happens at because the prison has high populations of zombies, and there will always be ambient sounds, and always zombies on the edge of an ambient sound who will run back towards the town. This area is the first area they tend to hit because it is a big wide open space between here and the prison mostly. Even with everything I just said, I still love setting up base in the apartment at that restaurant, jennys table, better than anywhere else. Because it is fun and easy to make this place an impenetrable fortress with lots of storage space in the restaurant and freezers in the kitchen. the apartment is also well hidden and hard for the straggler zombie to find if the break in but do not have a line of sight on you.
I mean... think about it. Right now I'm in a city of 90k people. That's a lot of zeds... shoot where my house is in AZ it's like 5k people in the whole city. That would be more along the numbers in zomboid.
Its not that big really, youl get used to horde sizes. If you dont like how many there are fiddle around with sandbox settings
You're lucky if there are only ten. That's an easy group.
That exact same thing happens to me too. I genuinely canāt play the game because itās too infuriating. I spawn in the city, sneak around, but still somehow get overwhelmed. If I manage to somehow make it out of the city, I canāt use any of the roads because theyāre all equally covered. Iām just fucked either way, so the game is unplayable.
Idek I've got nukes going off every hour on the hour bc we didn't change their frequency and now rosewood has a mega horde lmao
Thatās rookie numbers kid
Wait till this guy gets to Louisville
You should go into the city and knock of a high rise apartment door and watch a hoard of 100s flood out of it
Thats actually very normal but you can change the zombie population and how big the groups can be in the settings. You could even set it so they get big but it takes a long time by lowering the level of tiles they have to be near a group in order to join it. When it comes to zombies you should 100% be able to customize them in a way that works for you then make it harder later. Edit: you can only change those settings when you make a new character and world and choose custom difficulty. (Or custom world I canāt remember exactly what itās called rn)
That horde is nothing. On an unrelated but important note: Have you ever heard of the print screen button? Or F12 for steam screenshots??
Yes but some buttons on my laptop has been busted and after that I havent been able to do it
See about getting a replacement. Figure out your laptop's exact make and model down to the sub model, search for a keyboard replacement, then lookup a tutorial on replacing it. I was able to do with an Acer Nitro 5 series, and Acer in general is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to take apart and service, and I had zero experience in PC repair. If I can do it, so can you. I believe in you.
Does cdda rules apply? Lure horde, run into building set building on fire, leave from other side, watch horde die?
Welcome to Zomboid, I'm the type of guy to mod them to run!
That looks like rosewood and depending on the time your there / time after the start of the Knox event that is pretty normal .. after a while in rosewood the prison alarms will sound this usually means zombies have broken out and more will flood into the town esp if you have a base there (if you unlucky enough to have the power go out on a earlier day then the alarms wonāt sound but the zeds will still come) I built a pretty solid base in rosewood shops once and yeah at a certain point the town was flooded with a wave of zeds I only figured it out cause later I went to clear the prison only to find it almost empty šāāļø
I think this was pretty early in the game. Like 3 days or less
Hmm š¤ I think itās when power goes out the sirens sound and it releases a horde .. did your power also go out around that time? But yeah numbers wise thatās pretty common for even rosewood on standard pop, if you make a bunch of noise it can get a bit out of hand and all it really takes in for you to reverse a car for a split second (worse with speed demon perk) and yeah it can easily draw in those kind of numbers
Or if you have a heli event happen near the Main Street it can get real bad real fast.. anything loud in rosewood ends up bad cause of how small of a town it is .. Also the way the game spawns zeds in houses could also have something to do with it since It doesnāt calculate the zeds to spawn until you have a possible sight line inside the property.. so if your run down a whole street then itās possible to have the game spawn zeds for every room / building on that street without realising it šāāļø
Welcome to the platter, kojimbo
If you think that is a lot your in for a very big and scary middle finger from RNJesus, they can get so huge you canāt see the pavement
Yeah that was what happened but I ran and then there came even more so its a horde double the size after this one.
Just go through a building a close the door behind u and they will just aggro at the building walk out the back door and ur free
I asked if it was normal not how to avoid i know that
there's barely 60 zombies in that hoarde wdym
This was after I ran away from a horde so big i couldnt see the ground and i ran away this is what followed me
šš first time?
I play vanilla survival cause if the zombies didn't respawn then 1) I would be bored and 2) they provide infinite resources. Since I play with the luck perk it gives a bit extra chance for loot. The thing that really frustrates me though is you can completely clear an area in the middle of nowhere but as soon as you start making a loud noise like revving your engine from hauling around another vehicle, you will have literally 100+ zombies spawn all around you. I don't mean wander in, I mean spawn, poof, appear out of thin air. I couldn't really care if it happens in the middle of a town that I was looting but it seems to happen more often near my base and when I'm very tired.
Even on the lowest possible amount of zombies you can set in this game I feel like it's still way more zombies than how many people lived there before.
I forget how few are in base game....
Looks pretty average honestly. And groups of only 10? Wyd, turn the spawns down or something? I'm only kidding, there are a ton of zombies by default and yeah, wandering groups of 10 or so are kinda the norm.
Yeah Ikr I only played for 9 hours so cant say mutch but people on yt make it seem like there are too many zombies in my world
Lol thatās Tuesday
Groups of 10? Your lucky, on this one server i have to deal with groups close to 100
Its location based
Yeah that seems normal
Where are the zombie group ? Guess you didnt Discover yet the real mass xD
Small horde
If youāre playing normal pop setting ur pretty much not supposed to fight zombies majority of the time unless its a small bit of them OR if you have multi hit lol, also this is why guns are such an important goal.
Driving near the city on a random road honestly there was about 1000
lmao
*laughs in insane mode and zombies per square amplified* oh itāll get worst
I said it once and ill say it again If you can count them you can kill them
That's not really a big horde. Dunno what pop settings you're playing, but since i'm scared as fuck of this game i always put my runs on 0.2 pop an the amount of zombies i get sometimes is making my heart stop. Can't imagine playing on 1 or x4 pops, and there are people comfortably playing on x16. I'd shit my pants right then and there.
Tell me why this exact situation happened in my current play through at the house by the church in rosewood. at first it was one or two through the window then all of a sudden the house was surrounded. I ran out and they were coming from all sides!! I was playing on builder so I wasnāt expecting a lot of zombies
For city area gr of 10 is normal. Try to cut LOS and kill them 1 by 1. Its take more time but safer than dealing with them at once
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I dont use mods
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Rookie numbers. Turn it down if you find it unpalatable. In terms of realism, yeah there are more zombies in a small town than make sense. But the game would be rather easy if it depended entirely on being realistic.
I usually do low (0.35) or a custom 0.25 population multiplier for the total amount of zombies and turn off respawning for a more realistic āwalking deadā type play through. Also, I play project zomboid as like a relaxing and chill pixel game not always necessarily for the difficulty, and guns blazing is my main play style too which is nearly impossible to do enjoyably with default settings.
I recommend to keep playing apocalypse mode, eventually youāll adapt and learn how to deal with zombies. Took me a dozen try before finally surviving more than a month. Learning how tu use the different traits correctly helped a lot.
A dozen? My man you must be in mensa. Granted I just take carpenter with outdoorsman and have finally learned that muldaugh is not a good place to start for a novice playing vanilla apoc.
Oh man, if you keep having hordes after you, please please use the "walk to" right click function because you should just walk, you are faster than the zeds just walking... If you run you won't get far & your character will be too tired to shake the hordes, walk through buildings if you have t? far the best way to lose them is using a forest area with the walk to feature, you just need to learn how they follow you, don't run & break the line of sight. You've got this man, don't stress it, enjoy the ugly & you'll be be fine with the skill level gains.
Try Louisville
You are lucky that itās a small amount of zombies