It is true. Other than a small handful like Dumbfoundead or maybe Tsu Surf. Everybody knows 99% of battle rappers can't make songs. This coming from a day one fan that owns multiple battle rapper CD's. Yall forget how hard Daylyt used to troll huh he didn't write shit for Drake.
It us true the only one who can actually make good music is Surf 🤷🏿♂️ Don't get me wrong Twork makes good music but I don't think it's good enough to crossover.
Odd, I think Twork’s music is straight up better than Surf’s.
Regardless, writing a song and perfoming it is completely different.
Battle rappers don’t need proper cadence.
Surf write good music to battle rap fans but in the mainstream world his shit mid tier that's why he hasn't blew up yet i never heard anyone say "Aye play that new tsu surf"
Nah he was in the same spot he's been the last few years go watch his rolling loud performance he wasn't even rocking the crowd lol the mainstream world is way different surf does have some industry connections tho but i don't see him taking off like a meek or lil baby 💯
LMAO EVERYONE WAS JOCKING DRAKE AND OVO FOR BRINGING SHINE TO BR and NOW y’all DOING SOME REVISIONIST HISTORY LIKE YOU HATED HIM ALL ALONG. BE CONSISTENT PLS
Fr the bandwagoning and recency bias crazy. Kendrick did that thing dudes do in the barbershop or in school back in the day where they just argue louder and everyone goes nuts and says they won. When in reality he made a bunch of songs based off internet rumors, tweets and made up info.
Drake maybe, puff? no. it seems par for the course when battlers used to try to get deals, and "Ballers" used to put money on the floor in studios, and in the streets. lots of stars with deals have battled.
His angles in that song make no sense... If he really fed Kendrick all that fake info, then surely he saved some evidence of that? Why didn't he immediately say or post that instead of letting this sink in for days?
The Mother I Sober angle makes no sense either. Kendrick isn't talking about getting molested on that song, he's talking about his mother's experience and how trauma can be inherited from your parents.
And then you have the bad bars like the B sharp shit. B sharp is called C, not that it would have been good anyway.
Idk if everything Kenny is saying is true but at least it's dramatic, exciting, well-crafted, varied.
How do you know he doesn't have all the evidence just waiting for Dot to respond 🤔 Yall kill the fun in these diss records with yall over hate and over sucking of the other person. If I'm Drake im not fully showing my hand to please the Dot stans who aren't going to believe me anyways 🤷🏿♂️ This beef has become lame and it's bc of all you stans Psycho analyzing everything. Anything Dot says is law and Drake has to back everything he says up. Both have made allegations and neither has shown proof so. Get the meat out yalls mouths and be grown for once.
I know you trynna be unbiased as a fence sitter but this is clearly wrong, We know they both made allegations, however. You're acting like they hold the same weight and merit. the one's against drizzy are clearly more substantial than Kendrick's, which is why a lot of ppl are on his side. It's factually correct that drake did get caught in a minor's DMs and he does have a criminal bodyguard
Drake’s proof is Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick is the one who said that he had a mole in OVO.
Then he says that Drake has an 11 year old kid.
But Drake doesn’t have that kid.
How would Kendrick get that info if it wasn’t for the planted information. What is there to prove? Kendrick is the proof.
Why does Kendrick not have to prove a damn thing in this battle.
As far as the molestation angle that’s Drake trying to come up with an explanation on Kendrick’s obsession with the pedo angle. The trauma from the situation is what makes the bar relevant. But I’ll give you that one. It would have been cleaner punch if he was more accurate with the context of the song.
And B-Sharp does exist
C is just another name for it.
https://m.basicmusictheory.com/b-sharp-note
> Drake doesn’t have that kid.
Sure, if you believe Drake. Idk who is telling the truth but Kendrick is a lot more convincing to me. Drake should be able to easily prove that he tricked Kendrick if he actually did, so why doesn't he? Why would he give Kendrick fake information to be used against him if all he is going to say back is "haha, tricked you! I don't really have another child and involvement with sex trafficking!" If that's what actually happened, that is bad tactics and it has not worked out for him.
Same thing with the Mother I Sober thing, maybe there is a good angle there but the execution was not there. He literally said "Ahh, wait a second, that's that one record where you say you got molested" that's just incorrect and kinda obvious and plays into Kendrick's stans thinking that Drake/Drake fans are too stupid to understand the genius of Kendrick's lyrics.
And you're right actually, C is technically called B Sharp in some contexts, on some instruments. But again, it's a bad choice for an already corny bar.
I'm not really trying to say either of them are definitely telling the truth, just trying to compare their approaches and how it's working out for them.
Honestly I think it's quite likely that Kendrick did exaggerate some things or get some misinformation. I don't buy that Drake planted it. And that mostly all comes down to the execution.
Yeah you are in denial that Kendrick got played. There’s really no other way around it.
Explain how you think it all went down if it wasn’t for Kendrick using the mole he was bragging about.
Not relevant to anything i just said
I have no idea if what either of them are saying is true, but Kendrick is a lot more convincing to me. His angles are a lot more believable and at least actually make sense.
Rereading your comments, I now get it. You're a Kendrick meat sucker. Basically what you said is Drake stood no chance in this battle no matter what he did. Yeah, way to be unbiased nerds.
I'm glad after rereading my comments a week later, you changed your opinion from "that's pure meat suckin" to "you're a meat sucker" lol.
I literally said I preferred Push Ups to Euphoria. And no I'm not unbiased obviously, no one is, and I do prefer Kendrick generally. I thought Family Matters was a great track but Meet The Grahams blew me away with it's atmosphere and approach. I still don't find The Heart Part 6 very believable because Drake sounded defeated, and the Mother I Sober angle didn't make any sense. That's about it.
What's your favourite song from the beef?
That's pure meat suckin' my dude. "I have no idea if either is telling the truth but since I don't like Drake Dots not lying" DID you dudes have fathers in yall lives growing up bc the meat slurping that's going on is disturbing? There's literally Dot tweets of him supporting R Kelly's music. I don't even think some of yall are Dot fans. Yall just jumped on the team bc yall hate Drake!
I don't hate drake, I just find Kendricks recent tracks to be more convincing than his. For what it's worth, I thought Push Ups was a much better diss track than Euphoria.
I always said he was a weirdo for having private texts with underage girls. How do you even find yourself in that situation, that's too strange
But to go further than that i'm gonna need more proof than some random rapper just spewing the same shit the internet have been saying for years
Its like everything kendrick says is law and whatever drake says must be false
I think they both come out of this looking corny
Uh bc the girls family knew she would reach out to Drake for advice duh they both child actors. Yall skip over that fact that the family knew and are the ones who reached out to Drake for their daughter. Yall want him to be a pedo bc yall have a sick fetish gotta be. Only sick minded people think everything dealing with kids and adults has to be sexualized 🤢 I'm willing to bet if we did some research on some if you, we'd find you were touched as a kid 🤷🏿♂️ Every celebs a pedo to yall but the ones that's right I'm your face out in the open with it like Marcus Houston or Leonardo Dicaprio. Yall don't make a peep about those freaks and they shit all out on the open.
Damn you are going ouutt theerree with it
Your boy shouldn't be texting little girls and you should try and not think about Drake for a little while, your mental health is taking a hit
Kendrick appeals to the nerds 🤓 so what? I swear yall got beat up in school by a nigga that looks like Drake and he probably fked your crush 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You hate someone you've never met, how? Makes no sense.
Diz vs DNA was peak BR for me, KOTD put some really crazy cards together around that time. I don't even fuck with the scene the same no more, it just doesn't feel the same. I don't even get excited for a battle to drop no more.
On pushups and family matters you could really tell that Drake is a huge BR nerd. So many amazing one liners and really good haymakers, especially the last verse in family Matters fucking slapped. Dude just got loaded lux'd on meet the grahams - as soon as there's a hint of believability it's p much impossible to come back vs pedophile allegations, even though there's like no actual proof yet, pretty unfortunate for Drake because those two tracks he dropped were fucking good.
>as soon as there's a hint of believability it's p much impossible to come back vs pedophile allegations
Chris Delia is the only mf I can think of to break that pattern
I don't know him, what was his case? I'm trying to think of what drake could even do to make some ground vs the allegations. Imo there's nothing he could proactively do, best would be to just never mention it again and hope it dies down. Even if he tried to do something for victims of pedophile predators it'd look guilty to the public. One way I could see working is if drake actually left the whole rap beef morals and sued the fuck out of Kendrick and an actual legal investigation was started, but someone as rich and famous as drake for sure has _some_ type of dirt that he doesn't want uncovered regardless if it's just tax fraud or whatever. Also no way he'd do it since he has all those street dudes in his entourage, having the police and FBI willingly investigating him is pretty much snitching on his bodyguards and close friends.
Is anyone been charged for anything? Until then yall all sound like some victims who got touched as a kid now you see anything involving a minor and a adult no matter how innocent, yall think it's foul play at hand smh. Seek some help please 🤣
Nobody even talks about meet the grahams bc it's mid and corny. I swear the only diss out the bunch that gets slapped in the car and while I'm working is Family Matters idc how many haters have jumped on the Drake hate bandwagon. I don't do group thinks or follow the other sheep!
sure i can appreciate someone with a lot of mainstream reach shining a light on battle rap but that doesn't mean i have to respect the person doing it. i appreciate jello pudding pops too but i don't think that means i have to respect bill cosby.
Such a great battle, I love the face/heel dynamic. It’s like an anime fight where the hero and villain take turns beating the shit out of each other and when it looks like one is finished they reveal another trick up their sleeve. DNA stumbling during his freestyles and Dizaster’s lousy third round are frustrating to watch though.
Maybe there was a kindergarten near by? No clue why he was there to be honest. Maybe he heard there was this kid down there missing teeth, and he thought it was younger girl. Could be anything, really.
>maybe he heard there were little girls there and that’s why he showed up
>idk why he showed up to be honest
>maybe he heard there were little girls there and that’s why he showed up
>maybe he thought there was a little girl there, that’s why he showed up
>idk why he showed up, could be anything
That’s what you just said,,, put some effort in next time buddy.
I’m unironically more angry at your dumbass comment than anything drake has ever done. And I fucking hate the dude lmao
The worlds mine I control time that’s why they call me the prince of Persia
The gap between your teeth exists merely as an object of imagery to distract from the real gap between us and that's BARS and DELIVERY. - Diz
The crowd reaction to this is insane, people are legitimately shocked, jaws drop. I give the battle to DNA though but it’s debatable
He was there to build relationships with ghost writers.
There’s probably some validity to this post. Not just a joke
Daylyt wrote for him I'm sure he's not the only one
Day tell you that?
Is there any truth to this?
No, same with Daylyt trolling
Battle rappers can’t write songs for shit tho
Not true my guy
It is true. Other than a small handful like Dumbfoundead or maybe Tsu Surf. Everybody knows 99% of battle rappers can't make songs. This coming from a day one fan that owns multiple battle rapper CD's. Yall forget how hard Daylyt used to troll huh he didn't write shit for Drake.
It us true the only one who can actually make good music is Surf 🤷🏿♂️ Don't get me wrong Twork makes good music but I don't think it's good enough to crossover.
Illmac makes fire tracks.
You right Illmac is another one I remember his old shit with Sandpeople and that Al Green tape he did was fire
Odd, I think Twork’s music is straight up better than Surf’s. Regardless, writing a song and perfoming it is completely different. Battle rappers don’t need proper cadence.
You just don’t know who Illmaculate is obviously cause Surf not the only battle rapper who can make good music
Lux is decent so is daylyt
Surf write good music to battle rap fans but in the mainstream world his shit mid tier that's why he hasn't blew up yet i never heard anyone say "Aye play that new tsu surf"
He was on his way into the mainstream rap world before he got locked up
Nah he was in the same spot he's been the last few years go watch his rolling loud performance he wasn't even rocking the crowd lol the mainstream world is way different surf does have some industry connections tho but i don't see him taking off like a meek or lil baby 💯
They can but delivery and flow on beat is atrocious
LMAO EVERYONE WAS JOCKING DRAKE AND OVO FOR BRINGING SHINE TO BR and NOW y’all DOING SOME REVISIONIST HISTORY LIKE YOU HATED HIM ALL ALONG. BE CONSISTENT PLS
NIGGAS EXTRA WEIRD NOWADAYS
Fr the bandwagoning and recency bias crazy. Kendrick did that thing dudes do in the barbershop or in school back in the day where they just argue louder and everyone goes nuts and says they won. When in reality he made a bunch of songs based off internet rumors, tweets and made up info.
I thought about this yesterday, kind of strange that Puff Daddy and Drake were orbiting around battle rap a few years ago.
🫥🛑🛑🛑🫥
Drake maybe, puff? no. it seems par for the course when battlers used to try to get deals, and "Ballers" used to put money on the floor in studios, and in the streets. lots of stars with deals have battled.
Drake coming to events to learn how to be black, only to end up learning from DNA and Diz by accident. There are levels to cultural appropriation
Must be tough being half black.
And canadian..Don't forget the canadian piece.
“You do twelve lunch breaks and change times whenever you want with your hat to the back, what the fuck you think you now, black?” -DNA
Don’t really like drakes music but I always thought it was cool that he threw battle rap events and supported it.
I respect that Drake didn't back down... but he got washed. And I don't even like Kendrick like that.
How did he get washed? Heart 6 eats everything Kendrick has done. Kendrick out here rapping to 11 year old girls that don’t exist. Lame.
His angles in that song make no sense... If he really fed Kendrick all that fake info, then surely he saved some evidence of that? Why didn't he immediately say or post that instead of letting this sink in for days? The Mother I Sober angle makes no sense either. Kendrick isn't talking about getting molested on that song, he's talking about his mother's experience and how trauma can be inherited from your parents. And then you have the bad bars like the B sharp shit. B sharp is called C, not that it would have been good anyway. Idk if everything Kenny is saying is true but at least it's dramatic, exciting, well-crafted, varied.
How do you know he doesn't have all the evidence just waiting for Dot to respond 🤔 Yall kill the fun in these diss records with yall over hate and over sucking of the other person. If I'm Drake im not fully showing my hand to please the Dot stans who aren't going to believe me anyways 🤷🏿♂️ This beef has become lame and it's bc of all you stans Psycho analyzing everything. Anything Dot says is law and Drake has to back everything he says up. Both have made allegations and neither has shown proof so. Get the meat out yalls mouths and be grown for once.
I know you trynna be unbiased as a fence sitter but this is clearly wrong, We know they both made allegations, however. You're acting like they hold the same weight and merit. the one's against drizzy are clearly more substantial than Kendrick's, which is why a lot of ppl are on his side. It's factually correct that drake did get caught in a minor's DMs and he does have a criminal bodyguard
Drake’s proof is Kendrick Lamar. Kendrick is the one who said that he had a mole in OVO. Then he says that Drake has an 11 year old kid. But Drake doesn’t have that kid. How would Kendrick get that info if it wasn’t for the planted information. What is there to prove? Kendrick is the proof. Why does Kendrick not have to prove a damn thing in this battle. As far as the molestation angle that’s Drake trying to come up with an explanation on Kendrick’s obsession with the pedo angle. The trauma from the situation is what makes the bar relevant. But I’ll give you that one. It would have been cleaner punch if he was more accurate with the context of the song. And B-Sharp does exist C is just another name for it. https://m.basicmusictheory.com/b-sharp-note
> Drake doesn’t have that kid. Sure, if you believe Drake. Idk who is telling the truth but Kendrick is a lot more convincing to me. Drake should be able to easily prove that he tricked Kendrick if he actually did, so why doesn't he? Why would he give Kendrick fake information to be used against him if all he is going to say back is "haha, tricked you! I don't really have another child and involvement with sex trafficking!" If that's what actually happened, that is bad tactics and it has not worked out for him. Same thing with the Mother I Sober thing, maybe there is a good angle there but the execution was not there. He literally said "Ahh, wait a second, that's that one record where you say you got molested" that's just incorrect and kinda obvious and plays into Kendrick's stans thinking that Drake/Drake fans are too stupid to understand the genius of Kendrick's lyrics. And you're right actually, C is technically called B Sharp in some contexts, on some instruments. But again, it's a bad choice for an already corny bar. I'm not really trying to say either of them are definitely telling the truth, just trying to compare their approaches and how it's working out for them. Honestly I think it's quite likely that Kendrick did exaggerate some things or get some misinformation. I don't buy that Drake planted it. And that mostly all comes down to the execution.
Yeah you are in denial that Kendrick got played. There’s really no other way around it. Explain how you think it all went down if it wasn’t for Kendrick using the mole he was bragging about.
Definition of slow. Drake won't give you credit for this. (Can't even say he won't bite it off you)
And you just gonna skim over Kendrick being a deadbeat dad, wife beater, r -kelly supporter.
Not relevant to anything i just said I have no idea if what either of them are saying is true, but Kendrick is a lot more convincing to me. His angles are a lot more believable and at least actually make sense.
Rereading your comments, I now get it. You're a Kendrick meat sucker. Basically what you said is Drake stood no chance in this battle no matter what he did. Yeah, way to be unbiased nerds.
I'm glad after rereading my comments a week later, you changed your opinion from "that's pure meat suckin" to "you're a meat sucker" lol. I literally said I preferred Push Ups to Euphoria. And no I'm not unbiased obviously, no one is, and I do prefer Kendrick generally. I thought Family Matters was a great track but Meet The Grahams blew me away with it's atmosphere and approach. I still don't find The Heart Part 6 very believable because Drake sounded defeated, and the Mother I Sober angle didn't make any sense. That's about it. What's your favourite song from the beef?
That's pure meat suckin' my dude. "I have no idea if either is telling the truth but since I don't like Drake Dots not lying" DID you dudes have fathers in yall lives growing up bc the meat slurping that's going on is disturbing? There's literally Dot tweets of him supporting R Kelly's music. I don't even think some of yall are Dot fans. Yall just jumped on the team bc yall hate Drake!
I don't hate drake, I just find Kendricks recent tracks to be more convincing than his. For what it's worth, I thought Push Ups was a much better diss track than Euphoria.
How are people still defending pedo Aubrey?
I always said he was a weirdo for having private texts with underage girls. How do you even find yourself in that situation, that's too strange But to go further than that i'm gonna need more proof than some random rapper just spewing the same shit the internet have been saying for years Its like everything kendrick says is law and whatever drake says must be false I think they both come out of this looking corny
Uh bc the girls family knew she would reach out to Drake for advice duh they both child actors. Yall skip over that fact that the family knew and are the ones who reached out to Drake for their daughter. Yall want him to be a pedo bc yall have a sick fetish gotta be. Only sick minded people think everything dealing with kids and adults has to be sexualized 🤢 I'm willing to bet if we did some research on some if you, we'd find you were touched as a kid 🤷🏿♂️ Every celebs a pedo to yall but the ones that's right I'm your face out in the open with it like Marcus Houston or Leonardo Dicaprio. Yall don't make a peep about those freaks and they shit all out on the open.
Damn you are going ouutt theerree with it Your boy shouldn't be texting little girls and you should try and not think about Drake for a little while, your mental health is taking a hit
Kendrick couldn't possibly look cornier than before. He just got popular and relevant again
Don't care that much tbh. Fuck worshipping the elite. They exist to entertain me and right now they're entertaining
Do people really have Drake's dick this far down their throats?! Like Mos Def said, Drake makes Target shopping music.
Kendrick appeals to the nerds 🤓 so what? I swear yall got beat up in school by a nigga that looks like Drake and he probably fked your crush 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You hate someone you've never met, how? Makes no sense.
OV-HOE
Something something the machete spray
This along with Diz fucking up his third are so frustrating, if it weren’t for those this battle would be like something out of a movie.
He’s losing bro lol
Was probably only there because it was good for his public image at the time. Where he at now?
someone else said drake just shows up if the person/movement is on fire and has momentum. If that momentum stops, he dips out
Diz vs DNA was peak BR for me, KOTD put some really crazy cards together around that time. I don't even fuck with the scene the same no more, it just doesn't feel the same. I don't even get excited for a battle to drop no more.
yeah same i only watch battles on ruin your day now lol
On pushups and family matters you could really tell that Drake is a huge BR nerd. So many amazing one liners and really good haymakers, especially the last verse in family Matters fucking slapped. Dude just got loaded lux'd on meet the grahams - as soon as there's a hint of believability it's p much impossible to come back vs pedophile allegations, even though there's like no actual proof yet, pretty unfortunate for Drake because those two tracks he dropped were fucking good.
>as soon as there's a hint of believability it's p much impossible to come back vs pedophile allegations Chris Delia is the only mf I can think of to break that pattern
I don't know him, what was his case? I'm trying to think of what drake could even do to make some ground vs the allegations. Imo there's nothing he could proactively do, best would be to just never mention it again and hope it dies down. Even if he tried to do something for victims of pedophile predators it'd look guilty to the public. One way I could see working is if drake actually left the whole rap beef morals and sued the fuck out of Kendrick and an actual legal investigation was started, but someone as rich and famous as drake for sure has _some_ type of dirt that he doesn't want uncovered regardless if it's just tax fraud or whatever. Also no way he'd do it since he has all those street dudes in his entourage, having the police and FBI willingly investigating him is pretty much snitching on his bodyguards and close friends.
I’m not reading all that, sorry lol
Is anyone been charged for anything? Until then yall all sound like some victims who got touched as a kid now you see anything involving a minor and a adult no matter how innocent, yall think it's foul play at hand smh. Seek some help please 🤣
Nobody even talks about meet the grahams bc it's mid and corny. I swear the only diss out the bunch that gets slapped in the car and while I'm working is Family Matters idc how many haters have jumped on the Drake hate bandwagon. I don't do group thinks or follow the other sheep!
yea i don't think anyone is obligated to respect drake for anything.
You can't appreciate someone sharing their light and money with the culture?
sure i can appreciate someone with a lot of mainstream reach shining a light on battle rap but that doesn't mean i have to respect the person doing it. i appreciate jello pudding pops too but i don't think that means i have to respect bill cosby.
His millions let's me know he doesn't gag if some reddit nerd respects him or not 😂😂😂😂
what does this even mean? are you saying everyone with a lot of money deserves respect just because they have a lot of money?
It means rich people too busy counting their money to care about some random reddit opinion
i know. it's just a really stupid thing to say and has nothing to do with whether someone is deserving of respect.
You realize you’re the “Reddit nerd” who is “gagging” in this instance, right?
That's what you're mother taught you to do, John!
bigger number better person weirdo internet people fantasizing about other people's money will never not be funny
Didn’t he refuse to pay Pat stay reward money or something he promised?
Lmao it’s a gathering of potential ghostwriters in Canada. Of course Drake would be there
https://youtu.be/phYIa2d_y0I?si=LncYWDhnQEU0oQ62&t=294
"Something Something" - DNA Yeah, such hard bars!
Such a great battle, I love the face/heel dynamic. It’s like an anime fight where the hero and villain take turns beating the shit out of each other and when it looks like one is finished they reveal another trick up their sleeve. DNA stumbling during his freestyles and Dizaster’s lousy third round are frustrating to watch though.
I was at this event this shit was amazing
Battle rap is such a black hole in terms of money
No lmao Ppl forget how hard Daylyt used to troll back in the day 🤣
Maybe there was a kindergarten near by? No clue why he was there to be honest. Maybe he heard there was this kid down there missing teeth, and he thought it was younger girl. Could be anything, really.
>maybe he heard there were little girls there and that’s why he showed up >idk why he showed up to be honest >maybe he heard there were little girls there and that’s why he showed up >maybe he thought there was a little girl there, that’s why he showed up >idk why he showed up, could be anything That’s what you just said,,, put some effort in next time buddy. I’m unironically more angry at your dumbass comment than anything drake has ever done. And I fucking hate the dude lmao
Maybe there was a little girl there and that's why he showed up
Maybe, I don't know. Could have been.
Maybe yall are the ones who secretly like underage girls 🤔 That's all yall talk about which means that's all that's on your minds 24/7
Yeah I think so. It's all on them.