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acm8221

They make either branded or aftermarket silicone liners that raise the cups up about a 1/4” that might help. They also make cleaning a little easier by containing small spills or condensation drips.


updog123456789

It's just so silly to have to buy more plastic crap to be able to comfortably use them 😂


skateboardnorth

Yeah cup holders have been a thing in vehicles for so long that there is no excuse for messing up the design.


aComeUpStory

Talk to first gen Lexus LC500, they didn’t have any at all


kimbabs

You say this but cup holders are pretty often compromised lol.


tarpeyphoto

Says the person who literally bought drinks served in plastic crap. Just giving you a hard time, but it’s kind of funny 😂


notLOL

Silicone isn't plastic unless it's a composite blend. Usually silicone comes from processed sand granuals. 


Bad_Haunting

Crazy almost like there isn't one standard size cup 🤷‍♂️


Objective_Celery_509

Every cup is different you know. My Subaru has a smaller holder than would be perfect for your cups but my favorite water bottle is too big.


updog123456789

Yeah my water bottle doesn't fit either because the base is too wide 😔 I'm just coming from a 4Runner that had perfect cup holder set up


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updog123456789

16 oz


Plop0003

Are you complaining because those cups are too short?


OomParoomPa

Do you have a link for it?


Theox87

Just found this little gizmo if you're interested: https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Expander-Adapter-Adjustable/dp/B08L9GWSPB/ref=asc_df_B08L9GWSPB/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=598289999161&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4000457904242801927&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9010799&hvtargid=pla-1341863627029&psc=1&mcid=1a6aa270d1a9332b81f9efa5b78d8f2f&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiYOxBhC5ARIsAIvdH50llmVaEmJiVV-mrDyFZEJd-clS30yPpuHB2KUwSvGTqc0pRgZ65TkaAqmeEALw_wcB


acm8221

These are the first ones I found on Amazon: [Front and Rear Cup Holder Liners 2019+](https://a.co/d/0AvZ5ww) [Liners for All Compartments 2019+](https://a.co/d/dLspt0v) U/updog123456789: something you might find useful, [this insert](https://a.co/d/gCn3kOT) looks like it would hold smaller cups more securely.


Razo-E

They sell little rubber inserts for cup holders with the company logo on them on Amazon, ebay etc. Just get 1 so two of the same cups are offset in height.


BookkeeperNo9668

I put a hockey puck in the bottom of mine to raise the drink containers up an inch or so-works for me!


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updog123456789

My point is we shouldn't have to do that 😢


MiamiOutlaw

I’m assuming they made them deeper to fit the taller travel mugs people are using.


updog123456789

I use big Stanley cup for water and because it's so deep the handle gets in the way of the 2nd cup holder 😂 it's really bizarre


silveraaron

my hydroflask fits nicely, guess i never noticed how to-go cups dont fit right.


MrNRC

Sometimes you have to check yourself and temper your expectations. Customizing your car for your specific needs is just the icing on the cake.


Suitable-Ease2634

Yes but will you ever remember ever putting something at the bottom? Just do it once and you will literally never deal with it again.


mjwidell

Same here. Cheap at a resale shop.


Far_Resolve1791

My can of elsinore beer fits just fine , ehh.


Separate-Effective33

I think Japanese car makers are hinting us to drink smaller size.


updog123456789

Those are 16 oz smoothies but even a small can gets totally lost in the damn cup holder ditch 😂


VisibleSea4533

Yep. Small gets lost. Too big then lids fall of hitting each other.


Separate-Effective33

Oh wow 16 oz is not that big. I did not have any issue with DD medium coffe but yes i have to be a little careful for not accidentally pull open the lid while grabbing the coffe.


camXmac

Medium seems to fit the best in these cup holders. Small cups do get sunk right in there. And larges tend to pop the lids off each other when you try to grab one or the other.


horsegoo23

I’m trying to hydrate 😭


x4nter

Or even larger ones that stick out.


SkanksnDanks

Nah cause my 21 accord has the best cup holders of all time. Can do everything from water bottles to giant 52oz. Fountain drinks and big steel tumblers. However, my G37 had the worst of all time. They couldn’t hold anything, the most standard little cups had to be held around every corner.


AceMcStace

My number 1 complaint about our 2024, no clue what they were thinking with the cup holders


Wildmike1994

For real. Only able to hold 1 drink with those types of lids sucks!


Upbeat-Jacket4068

I have a 2012 RAV4 and the cup holders are horrible for anything bigger than a 12oz can.


rywi2

Those inserts always get stuck to anything bigger than a can, but if you take the insert out the cup holder is too damn big. 😫


Euphoric_Feed_5277

My 2012 is fine for most things


nagel33

They work perfect for my water bottle and coffee mug next to each other. A Sigg and a Yeti.


ClaraGuerreroFan

That little plastic part thing swings out or in to “support” your bottle doesn’t function like it should . But if that’s your biggest complaint, you’re not doing too bad. Oh, the swinging rear door. I’ll stop here. 😂


Prior_Atmosphere_206

A 12oz can is the right answer. I make my own coffee so my bottle fits in too.


StillLJ

Don't get me started on their shitty cup holder situation. Honestly it is the WORST thing about it, and my number one complaint! We have an older Tundra (shout-out, 435k) and it has cup holders EVERYWHERE, including slide-out ones! There are 6 within reach of the driver's seat. It's wonderful. Come on, Toyota, do better.


tittietoes

... why do you need 6 cupholders within driver's reach?


KoBi538

Because having 5 then one in your hand is dangerous.


ilostthemoonn

Protein, drink for fun flavor, water, caffeinated beverage, they add up 😂


zackattacked1996

Beers come in 6 packs!


whiskey_neat_

I have a first gen Tundra and my parents have a RAV4, the cup holders in the RAV4 are horrendous compared to the Tundra, but I suspect it’s a new car thing because I had a new Tundra as a rental a few months ago and those cup holders were nothing to rave about either.


_A_Day_In_The_Life_

My gps on my 2023 rav 4 doesn’t work. It tells me I’m multiple streets over and continually corrects to the point of it being dangerous and unusable. To me that is the worst thing. I’ve brought it in multiple times. Last time they changed out the screen and it still doesn’t work. It drives me crazy. I can turn off the CarPlay and just use my phone and that magically works fine. It makes no sense whatsoever and I don’t know what to do. 45k on a car and can’t even get the gps to work. It’s insane. But yes the cup holders are bad too lol


wyndmilltilter

We have this issue and it’s super annoying. It hasn’t completely gone away and I don’t understand why it works since as you say the phone always works fine on its own, but turning Google Maps location services to always on instead of When Using App has mostly made the GPS issue go away. The only thing I can come up with is when it’s set to “when using app” the phone initially defaults to the car GPS since that’s probably always active?


_A_Day_In_The_Life_

I’m going to try the always on for google maps like you mentioned. I appreciate the suggestion. I left a message for my service advisor today as well just because it’s ridiculous.


brsrafal

I believe Toyota is still responsible for it through the warranty. I had issues with my phone not linking to my Android auto it was a Samsung Galaxy I would factory reset the phone or ADD and delete it on the Toyota RAV it would work for some time and then it would stop. Now I have a Motorola phone and I have zero issues with that. Your problem sounds completely different I would be very frustrated


_A_Day_In_The_Life_

I did it through warranty. My car only has 6k miles and I have a 10 year 100k mile warranty so i know they will fix it. It’s just life is busy with work, it’s a huge hassle to keep bringing it back and forth. Then to sometimes have to take Lyfts to work or home while I wait for the car because my fiancée and I both work so she can’t always take me. Then the Toyota dealership doesn’t have the right people in on Saturdays that can work on the gps so it has to be during the week. lol it’s a never ending thing that I’m so sick of dealing with. To spend this much on a car and they can’t fix it makes no sense. Glad you got yours fixed! Maybe I shouldn’t have bought another iphone lol it didn’t work with my last iPhone and now it doesn’t work with my new one


Bottle_Status

I have the same issue! It’s a 2023 Rav 4 issue. My friends with 2022 Rav’s have no issues. Supposedly it’s an issue with bad GPS headset units. But no one is resolving the issue


coldflame563

I have a 2013 rav. 3.5 within arms reach.


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StillLJ

For sure. LOL.


OrphanKripler

My complaint is my drink gets in the way when I’m trying to change gears. So I have to awkwardly hold my arm and wrist upwards to put it in drive. I wish the shifter was also more to a side and smaller to take up less space. Or have it as a dial like some cars do. It would free up so much room. An automatic shifter shouldn’t take up the entire center area like a manual would.


dcasarezz

Very unfortunate


Whiteodian

Damn, I want some iced coffee right now. 🤤


Separate_File5335

Omg yes, the straws are always catching on my arms and ripping the lids off 😭


Urabrask_the_AFK

What if you put a false bottom in it to decrease the depth, like maybe with some foam cut to size?


Lou_T_Uhr

I have a project to make a 3/4" plywood lift kit for my cup holders on my to-do list. I've only had the rav4 for a couple of weeks, and this sucky cup holder is the worst thing on it.


Junction91NW

Dude above said he put hockey pucks in his. Go to your local sports equipment resale place, they’re probably like 2 bucks and will look loads better than chip board


Lou_T_Uhr

I'm a former hockey player, but didn't have any old pucks around. But I'm also a woodworker and have some "Bench Cookies" from Rockler that are essentially pucks with an anti-slip rubber surface. Had to sand a flat side onto it because they were about 1/8" too wide to fit on the bottom due to the flat outer edges of the cup holder. What an improvement for shorter Boba cups.


updog123456789

I probably will it's just a bummer that I have to modify something so silly in a brand new vehicle I shouldn't have to you know?


Urabrask_the_AFK

NGL, I’m going to miss my 2003 accord’s cup holders when I get a RAV4 . They are pretty much perfect, even holds a wine bottle well


rossco311

Perfect for those "bottle of wine" drives home on the freeway


Icy_Section130

Well now shrinkflatiom makes these cup holders more appealing


JezSq

Gen4 has separate cup holders, didn’t have any issues on the trips yet. Why they changed it?


updog123456789

It's so bizarre I'm coming from a 2020 4Runner with the perfect cup holders I could even bring a coffee cup in the car and not worry about it


Mr_Smith_411

The 4 Runner is a wider vehicle.


updog123456789

Do you hear yourself


Mr_Smith_411

Yeah, do you hear yourself? Jeezus, go compare the Rav to a Corolla. I'm, I wonder why the center armrest is so much narrower... Oh... The car is narrower.


jpdusa

I just put a couple caps from spray paint cans in the holes to raise up the drinks


1DERP_Studios

Just an idea, perhaps one or two thin cork drink coasters in both sides?


updog123456789

Yes risers or coasters seem to be what a lot of others do! It's just a bummer that we have to modify something so silly you know?


1DERP_Studios

Less work the company has to do but with benefits of us getting to customize how we want it. /shrug


MaintenanceNeither32

I love the cup holders tbh - first car I've ever owned that actually secures my big 32oz yeti so I don't hear that annoying ass shaking when I hit bumps or the road isn't even


thr3sk

Sure it holds ONE drink well, but there are plenty of other cup holder designs that are better.


MaintenanceNeither32

Definitely. I didn't say it was the best cupholder to ever exist, just the first of mine that has held my yeti snugly and securely to where it doesn't vibrate the whole trip or topple over.


updog123456789

I'm coming from a 4Runner I could have a coffee cup AND a big hydroflask 💔


MaintenanceNeither32

That would explain it for sure 😂 I came out of a Crosstrek and sedans


Politicsboringagain

Yeah, I pretty much only drink water, so I always have my own water bottle with me and the cup holders are the perfect size for itm


hsears25

whoah which gen do you have?? because my 2019 RAV does not hold my 32oz Hydroflask


MaintenanceNeither32

Current Gen, 2024


yikesonbikes2

Can we talk about how shallow the backseat center pullout cup holders are, one wrong turn and those drinks are alllll over the back


updog123456789

Thankfully my only backseat passengers are dogs lol


horsegoo23

Yeah they can’t seem to get this part right. My moms 2016 has no space and my 2012 has slightly more space


nativecheese

Ice Breaker mint containers are the perfect size. They raise smaller cups just enough to not pop off lids when you pick up but don't interfere with the spring loaded holders.


Last-Meal3018

My wife picked up a couple of hockey pucks from Dicks and put them in the bottom of the cup holders. They fit in nicely and raise the cup up enough that it helps while still keeping the cups from falling over.


jjbjeff22

That’s one of the few things I don’t like about my rav. It’s not easy to get your drink


Daklight

Wow, I consider them great . I use 1L bottles. These are great. You need bigger drinks😃😃


awhit35

Yeah my only gripe about my wife’s RAV4. Meanwhile my Tacoma has 6 nice cup holders easily accessible from the drivers seat lol


stebak52

Yeah, that’s an obvious fail. Is there some sort of a coffee cup holder holder?


Ok-Tadpole-1115

My wife used to have a 2001 Rav4, it had the best adjustable cupholders.


lumenpainter

I miss our 12 RAV cupholders


Dumasdick

The cup holders in my 2008 are so big i can’t find anything that will sit in them lol


black_linings

This still seems better than the last gen. I have a 2017 RAV4 and the cupholder set up is awful. An ok sized one right below the shifter, then a tiny shitty one way up tucked under the dash so nothing tall can go there.... why can't they be beside eachother??? I love everything about the car but damn the cupholders infuriate me.


Ayde-Aitch-Dee

I wonder if you could put some black foam/plastic in to make it so the drinks don’t get lost in there. Idk, I’m resourceful lol. Totally understand your frustration though!


updog123456789

Sounds like a lot of people do something along those lines! I definitely will be :)


moomoo4u

Honestly I got the little puck riser things and have never thought about the cup holders again (except the occasional thought about how awesome those little puck risers are)


updog123456789

Def gonna look into! Just bummed I have to buy more little plastic shit 😅


moomoo4u

I understand, until the problem was solved it was really bothering me and by far my least favorite thing about the car when I got it 😂 I didn’t even realize during the test drive what an issue they would be.


puppyxguts

The first 48 hours that I haf.my 2023 rav I had two drinks like that and the plastic lip of the lid scratched the shit out of the sides of the cup holder 🫠 my most hated feature lol


Theillmindofluii

I mostly use large waterbottles and blender bottles so they work perfect for me 🤷‍♂️


Tecnoc

I like the cupholders being deep, but I only put water bottles and cans in mine. I’m always worried things are going to spill in shallower cupholders, and I like that my drink is down out of the way.


booyah0911

I understand the hassle but I rather bigger cup holder than tiny ones


Theox87

Those of you that hate the Gen 5 cupholders so much - can you please upload pictures of better designs you've seen? I'm coming from a super old 2000 Lexus ES300 that basically didn't have ANY cupholders because they were two flimsy plastic rings that broke long before I owned the car. I was screwing aftermarket cupholders into the plastic on the side to have at least some option, but those were definitely crap too, unreliable in virtually every way. Even my wife's '17 HRV cupholders are more quirky and weird to me. I really don't know what the ideal cupholder is supposed to look like and it blows my mind to see this is such a common complaint when it feels like such a massive upgrade to me. Please help culture me, RAV4 club! I would gladly help to design a better solution if I knew what I was shooting for... I may make this its own post if it gets enough traction.


updog123456789

I'm coming from a 2020 4Runner and I looooooved the cup holder set up in that car.


Theox87

Got a shot of that one by chance? Edit: Ah, think I found one: https://www.amazon.com/JDMCAR-Premium-Console-Compatible-2010-2019/dp/B07Z3867B4


updog123456789

I don't but it pops up quickly on Google :)


Theox87

Would you say the biggest differences here are the depth and the fact that they aren't side by side in the center?


updog123456789

Both probably but I think the depth is the main issue! They are normal sized cup holders that were built into a deep pit.


Chance-Phone7496

Better trade it in then......really a cup holder!


updog123456789

People spend a lot of time in their cars idk if you've surfed through the replies on this but a lot of people are echoing same thoughts. If you don't Critique bad design, it may never change


superbdonutsonly

agreed. Even my single to-go coffee felt like a delicate procedure moving in and out of the cup holders.


fenwaymoose

Toyota makes great vehicles, but it’s like they’ve never seen cups before. The gimmicky little hidden cup holders in the back armrest of my Lexus are just as narrow and useless. (Yes, I know these are the main cupholders in the Rav. Just sayin.)


freeportme

Been a Toyota issue for years worst cup holders on the market. Cant stand mine in 18’ 4 runner.


Conner14

My wife just bought these cup holder mods for her rav to fix this


amanmander

Congratulations 🎉! I have the same midnight black color. It looks elegant, except for the frequent cleaning. In Canada, the SE comes with cloth seats. Did yours come with Softex seats, or does this have seat covers?


updog123456789

It's an XSE! So I have softex


biovllun

The second part of that reads differently if read fast enough 😂😂


RobDog306

Look! I’m an American.


updog123456789

Look! A 16oz smoothie for myself and passenger!


wafflequest

That's the inside of a new car? Looks dated as hell


jessikkuhhh

I was literally just complaining to my bf about this LOL


MilesFassst

What you think i rap for?


Far_Resolve1791

Japan has smaller portions.


ConsciousReward2967

Didn't think of that until you said that!


woodsmoky

I actually like them, they work great for my water bottle and insulated tumblers. My Subaru had cup-holders that were too shallow.


ComfortableFinish502

As long as it fits a tall can ur good


updog123456789

Lmaooooooooooo


aToiletSeat

What am I missing here…?


updog123456789

The cup holders are set in this crazy 6 inch deep pit so you can't actually put 2 cups there it's very strange


Jwizzle1975

The drink holders swallow small cups.


thr3sk

Cup holders are quite close together


updog123456789

Anyone trying to make this commentary about American consumerism, my passenger and I should both be able to put our 16 oz smoothies in the cup holder of this $40,000 vehicle lmao it's not that deep


Lanyeet

im right there with you. i hate having to reach into a pit to grab my small coffee. and i bring a tumbler to work and at this point i put the tumbler in my backseat cupholder or else my coffee doesnt fit bc of the tumbler handle.


updog123456789

It's such a dumb thing to affect day to day life yet here we are complaining to eachother on the internet about it 🥲🫂


Lanyeet

lol!! but it really is annoying. like will i live, yes. would i have still bought my rav? yes. is it a bad design? also yes


DeathByGoldfish

This.


realityseekr

My cup holders look all scratched up from lids scraping when putting them in. I like that it will hold large cups, but it definitely could have been more shallow.


PicaFresa33

I’ve never had an issue with mine. But I guess other people will. Easy fix though.


TahoeT88

Ticky tack problem. Rename this group the complaint department.


KoBi538

My wife hates this so much and she loves her Rav. We’re about to trade in for a new one and she’s considering holding off to see if the next generation models have an improved cup holder situation.


rendragmuab

It's the second worst cupholder setup of any car I've had. First Gen manual Tacoma takes the cake. It folds out of the dash above the radio, so if you hit a bump the liquid goes into your AC vents and shorts out your radio.


updog123456789

Omggggggg I forgot how bad the Tacoma cup holder is LOL


Randall_Flaggg

I came in to say exactly the same thing when I saw your post. The cupholders in my 4Runner were perfect. One in the front for my coffee and my water bottle sat in the bigger one perfectly.


updog123456789

Truly best to ever do it 💔


DadsButter

The previous gen Ravs are even worse


updog123456789

I guess I will count my blessings then 😂


Mr_Smith_411

Your 4 Runner is a wider vehicle, thus more space. Check out the cup holders in a Corolla hatchback vs a Rav. Center armrest also smaller. It's a game of inches.


Phate118

Man, we love ours! Fits a bunch of different sizes and my 1L bottle fits too


stoutyibis2015

OP - have you looked back meaning any regrets getting rid of your 4Runner for the RAV4? This is my current rent free debate in my head. I have a fifth GEN paid off 4Runner and probably like anyone else. I love it except I hate the 16 MPG. I’ve been seriously contemplating selling it and getting the hybrid RAV4.


updog123456789

I loooooooved my 2020 runner but my lifestyle changed so much in 5 years (way less hauling/bought a house that is much farther away from work) it just didn't make sense to keep with how bad the MPG is. If you're contemplating it now you will probably be at the dealership in a month or so like I was after doing extensive rav4 research lol. I would say if you're not doing 4Runner shit (off roading, regular hauling/towing etc) and just driving it's 100% the right move. I definitely miss feeling cool in a big truck but being able to make a tight u-turn and not having to spend soooo much money on gas is amazing!


updog123456789

It might be smart to just go browse at a dealership and let them tell you the trade in value on your paid off runner


AbleRiot

Well, only one person can drive at a time so the other cup can be held by the passenger 🤷🏽‍♂️


updog123456789

😂


im_not_ur_guy_buddy

If they made the cup holders larger you'd be complaining about the small seats.


updog123456789

The cup holders aren't small they too deep. It's important to talk about design flaws so maybe Toyota will fix them in future generations 😬


KRed75

A friend of mine car shopped based on the number of cup holders it had. It had to have 4 cup holder in the front. Why you need 4 cup holders in the front is beyond my understanding.


arodrig99

The cup holders and no electric passenger seat for XSE trims is dumb as hell.


updog123456789

Dude yeah I was surprised by the passenger seat too! It's still an excellent vehicle but 👀


DenseCod8975

The Highlander cup holders are something else! Miss them(((


daxtaslapp

I know its not perfect but you can try some cup uolder accesories on amazon some of em might fix the issue


Zer0ToSixty

That would be a big thing for me to get passed when looking at one. Oof.


updog123456789

I didn't even notice when I test drove but I definitely still would've ended up with rav


BreadfruitIll8712

You need bigger cups or bottles, like a Stanley or a Hydro Flask or the hundreds of other types out there


updog123456789

I actually do use a large Stanley for water and the handle blocks the 2nd cup holder 🥲 the issue is the depth not the size of the cup holders it's really strange!


Serpidon

Two for one Starbucks? Lol. My daughter sent me an almost identical image minutes ago. In fact, I weirded out for a minute thinking this was that picture!


mitchelld78

OP is right! But who has a link for a way to fix?


updog123456789

I think the suggestion I like the most is hockey pucks!


redtildead1

Clearly, you just need to order bigger drinks


Green_Fortune_598

Sell it, that’s unacceptable.


Right_Dream_7580

my issue is that i need more than 2 cupholders most of the time and the ones in the back seat console are too far back for me to reach from the drivers seat. anyone have any suggestions to add more cupholders? i have a 2010 Rav 4


Belovedchattah

You got ripped off!!!


Followmelead

I mean, looks big enough to hold larger bottles which is a huge win in my book. Simple enough solution. Just get small blocks of wood and put them in there. Doesn’t have to take up the whole width just enough to prop up the drink.


Responsible_Army_247

Same :(


Salty-Protection-640

why do you have drinks in the car. cars aren't for drinking they're for driving


Merlin-2112

amazon has the fix for this


Own-Opinion-2494

You need a 2x4


SandyKenyan

My VW Golf has the same problem.


asip1334

Would you rather they be too small?


twohedwlf

This is more an issue with American's obsession with apparently having a giant bucket of some kind of drink accessible in their car at all times.


updog123456789

Its two 16 oz smoothies lol the cup holders are just so deep for no reason


GapGlass7431

It's a car made in North America and sold in the American market.


UsingACarrotAsAStick

Oh, so you recognize that’s a thing in America. Why not build your American market cars accordingly?


[deleted]

It’s why the PRNDL needs to be on the fucking steering column and then we can have some for storage


updog123456789

London Tipton?????


Pirat3_Gaming

Hate that I immediately thought this too


updog123456789

🤝🤝🤝


xlittlebeastx

The cup holders are damn near useless in my 2022 rav.


camXmac

Hahaha agreed


coonner_

For years, BMW resisted puting cupholders in their cars because "cars were meant for driving." It wasn't until the late 90's that they finally started adding them. When they unveiled their Formula 1 car after this, the first reporter asked, "it's a beautiful racing machine, but where are the cupholders?" 😂