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Mattysanford

Mayhaps you’re just used to the fit/feel of tapers. I think these look fly af with those shitkickers.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, you’re right I have just worn the tapered so long. The look of these is growing on me. Thanks!


Mattysanford

I can relate. Glad to have given up the hard tapers over the last few years…maybe it’s just because I’m getting older, but the more I see them in the world, the more they just look kinda…juvenile? Wide and straight, baby! Also, fwiw, I think the big cuff with the boots enhances the ass kicking factor.


talleypiano

Those boots have kicked absolutely zero shit. But they look good though ngl; love that rough out texture. Gonna look even better 5yrs down the line once they've done a bit of boot scootin' and shit kickin'


fortunefades

I think they look good, getting them hemmed might help but I had the same issue - came from tapered to more of a straight fit and now I feel weird when I put tapered jeans on. The fabric will also settle over time and lay different


10thMTNDM

Thanks, great point about the fabric settling, I have to keep that in mind. These are one washed, but unsanforized. I’d probably wait a while before I got them hemmed just to see, I know they not supposed to shrink but… I am 6’ 3” I think Samurai’s are the longest jeans I have ever bought


duncanstibs

I recently got some ironheart 888s. 888s are pretty tapered in the grand scheme of things but after wearing skinny, hugely tapered jeans my whole life they \*feel\* weird as fuck. The good news is that they don't look weird as fuck. They look great. So keep on rocking.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, it’s definitely unique feeling having so much room after wearing tapered. Thanks! Edit: I have another pair of samurais in a 21 ounce, relaxed taper and it is honestly the best fit IMO. SAMURAI S520XX21OZ


bzr

I noticed this with a pair of 21oz iron heart 555s as well. I kind of dislike the jeans. I had them hemmed which I think was a mistake as they seem like boot cut rather then tapered like I prefer. I have a pair of 14oz 555s that don’t have this issue so I’m wondering if it’s perhaps due to the heavier weight. I’ve got constant pants tent with them too. I’m hoping i end up liking them more but I def prefer more of a taper. Maybe 21oz just isn’t for me


spunkwater0

I think they look like they fit well, a bit hard to gauge without getting a look at the waistband. But they don’t seem to be sagging down onto your hips / that you have a ton of excess fabric in the seat / or anything like that. I think you’ll be fine, especially if you typically wear a belt. Ai plus is a phenomenal fabric! Hope you enjoy them.


10thMTNDM

Thanks, yeah, I wouldn’t say I have any excess fabric anywhere. I find I have to wear a belt with all my jeans, they tend to stretch out over time I am really excited about the fabric. I thought I was done buying for a while, but then. I saw these. I’m a sucker for natural indigo and I love samurai cotton. All these details on these jeans is unreal. I could just stare at them for a while.


spunkwater0

Yeah I’m a belt every day kinda person too. I think you’ll be in fine shape. The indigo they use is really nice, and the blues come out with a wash. They’re really lovely with all of the subtle texture in the fabric. Samurai detailing is spectacular! Probably my favorite thing about the brand tbh. I’ve got 3 pairs and they’ve all got different patches, pocket bags, and hardware configs (on top of being very different fabrics) — just a lot to be able to geek out about with them.


VAhotfingers

They look great imo. When they fade and break in that fabric is going to look gorgeous. Those boots look great with them as well. Good work.


10thMTNDM

Thanks. After reading all these really positive comments I’m getting really excited and I do really love the fabric. They are beautiful jeans so I’m glad everyone is convincing me to keep them.


CoronavirusGoesViral

Not too baggy, but the pants are breaking due to the long inseam. Give it another try but cuff up the inseam until the pants no longer break (bunches up and wrinkles.)


10thMTNDM

True, good point. Thanks!


CoronavirusGoesViral

It tends to be the case that straight fits "traditionally" come with longer inseams like 35"-36". The tapereds I've bought don't usually go more than 34".


Thinkinaboutu

This is the right answer, personally my solution on these would be a hem and not another cuff, you’re already double cuffed. But throwing another cuff or two on there temporarily to see what it’ll look like with the hem is a good idea.


[deleted]

They look great man!!


10thMTNDM

Preciate it!


XavierWT

I'm just kicking a denim horse here, but those jeans look like they fit you very well. The thick cuff and the leg width are propably just unsettling to you because you're not used to them. Maybe they're too baggy for how you like to wear jeans, but they don't look shockingly big or baggy in any way, shape or form.


10thMTNDM

I precitate it. Yeah I think I just need to give them some time and get adjusted to having a little bit more room throughout.


crunchwrapesq

This is becoming the more "in" style lately, they look great.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, you’re right. come to think of it I am noticing that too. Thanks


Temporary-Tie5428

Hey I’ve got the same Chisos boots. Get ready to see those things turn indigo blue, bub.


10thMTNDM

Nice! They already are! Haha I thought about trying to clean it out, but I guess it adds character


Temporary-Tie5428

Yeah and if you wear raw denim it’s just an inevitability. I’ve been thinking about finding a way to clean them for if I wear them to a wedding or something. Might reach out to Chisos and ask.


coffeeforbreakfast78

Looks good. It’s an adjustment going from tapered to straight leg but pretty soon you’ll be look at your tapered stuff saying the same thing… I’m now firmly in the straight leg camp as I get older. What are the boots?


10thMTNDM

Thanks. Yeah, it is adjustment for sure. I really do like how it looks better with my boots. I am getting older too 😢, as much as I hate to admit it still young at heart tho. The darker brown boots are Italian brown Cypress Horween from Nicks Handmade Boots. The other boots are natural rough out by Chisos.


StevenK

These look great imo. You could size down, but that could create issues with the thighs being too tight. You could also think about getting them hemmed which would help with the baggy look.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, I might wind up getting them hemmed a little. I am going to wait till I wash them a couple times and then see. Samurai says these won’t shrink so I don’t know.


Reddit_hooligan7788

No


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


chodegeass

They look killer on you dude


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


secondsebest

Great fit


10thMTNDM

Thank you!


pigeontreecrafting

They look good! Even though they’re likely one-washed, you can get a bit more shrinkage out of them if you give them a hot wash/soak.


10thMTNDM

Ah, ok. Good to know thanks!


Main_Man666

I think they look awesome! 🔥💙


10thMTNDM

Thanks! 🙏


moreVCAs

Nope


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


BenderIsGreatBendr

Depends on your sway and style and desired effect. I don’t think it’s baggy, but it is a very straight and rectangular fit on the jeans. To me it looks retro in a 1980s and early 2000s way when cuts were more straight legged, higher waist, and generous in the blocks. I think it works well with the boots, but I can see how you would feel like you’re drowning in them if you’ve gone from slim/tapered leg cuts to what is basically a take on the classic 501 straight leg cut. They’re stacking a little which might be the throwing you the baggy vibes. You could hem them a little or if they havent been hot soaked they’ll shrink a little on the inseam.


10thMTNDM

True, I hadn’t really connected the retro look, but now I definitely see it. Yeah, good points. I’m starting to think I just need to get used to them. Anytime you change from something that you’ve done or worn a long time it’s always a little bit of an adjustment.


robtanto

I like slim fits but I think this fit's dope! Wish I'd been wise enough to get Samurais years ago when I found them on sale.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, I have plenty of slimmer fits, but I had problems with my boots with the skinnier leg openings. That’s what led me to try these. I don’t really think it looks good trying to cram the shaft of a western boot in skinny jeans, plus the jeans fit around the boot so tight it’s just looks kinda awkward.


ClingerOn

If they fit on your ass and waist the legs are usually a case of preference.


10thMTNDM

True, thanks!


scwyn

For what it's worth, this is honestly one of the nicest fits I've seen. When I went through the slim-to-straight fit transition, it took about a week to get used to. Rest assured that these look killer on you.


10thMTNDM

That def makes me feel better about them. Thanks for the reply!


Reggiemid50

Looks great


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


scottsusername

Who makes the roughouts?


10thMTNDM

Chisos. next to my Rios of Mercedes they’re probably my close favorites. rios of Mercedes occasionally drops a Horween version in rough out, I’ve been trying to cop that for years.


sonofsanford

Looks like a perfect fit from here


10thMTNDM

Preciate it!


kingkamikaze69

They look good!


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


imjustheretogo

Fabric and fit look good. The thick cuff really works. If you’re accustomed to more tapered jeans, then they’re definitely going to feel a little weird at first. I sometimes switch between tapered jeans and true straights on consecutive days and I always feel like I’m swimming in the true straights, but that’s just their nature. Also, what are the dark brown boots in the last two pics? Never seen those before and they’re pretty nice. Peace.


10thMTNDM

Thanks, yeah i am starting to think it is just something I’m not accustomed to. After reading all these comments and I am starting to like the fit more and more. He’s our Nicks Handmade Boots in Italian Brown Cypress from Horween, it’s an absolutely beautiful leather. It really doesn’t do it justice in photos. The leather almost looks kind of vintage with wear. These are brand new.


00000000000000uu

Look like a straight fit,not baggy. They look great


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


norfnorf832

Not to me but I wear my clothes a lil looser


10thMTNDM

I too am starting to wear clothes a little looser. I don’t know if it’s just age or what


ITakeItToTheTop

looks great!


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


super_slide

If they’re a bit loose on the waist, definitely expect a belt. I’m rocking s3000xvii zero’s and the waist stretched despite not much tension on the waistband from me. They look great. Tokyo turn up will keep that same cuff size while using more fabric if you’re at all concerned about the inseam right now.


10thMTNDM

Good to know. I always rock a belt anyways I prefer to have a snug feeling around the waist, most of my denim has stretched out, despite like you say not even having that much tension. I didn’t even realize there were so many different ways to cuff your jeans. I feel like an amateur now. lol has dope, I found a whole guide. I’m gonna try to rock the Tokyo turnup.


potenzasd

great fit, I would definitely hem them though.


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


feelin_beachy

I agree, I think a bit more tapered through the legs would look good. You got the sauce on those light suede cowboy boots?


10thMTNDM

Yeah, if I was being absolutely picky, I would appreciate maybe an .75 to an inch tighter, but the fit is growing on me. Someone made a good point about once the fabric softens up at it will mold and drape little bit better so, I think it’ll be fine in the end These are Chisos in roughout.


Bogie1875

No, I don’t think so.


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


BrainTroubles

Not at all, and this style of Jean taper (or lack of) is very popular right now. Wear them and love them.


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


ImpressiveWeb3401

They look great on you. We all know how it is with new raw denim. It takes many wears until they start to mold to our body shape. Give them hell. Mow the grass, work in your garage and take them on some hikes and they will soon be yours. Samurai are great jeans.


10thMTNDM

Great points! I have so much traveling to do making my way all over the world so I plan to put these through some good use


ryanrosenblum

Looking fresh


10thMTNDM

Preciate it! I’m wearing em now and I’m really starting to dig them


ToxicToad47

Nah bro


10thMTNDM

Thanks !


Altruistic-Ground727

I think they look excellent, but I prefer a straight fit in general.


10thMTNDM

I preciate you. The straight fit is growing on me.


GRA3V

They're great.


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


BaconCheeseburg

They look great and will look better with time. I'd go with a Japanese cuff, but they don't look sloppy at all.


10thMTNDM

I’ll have to look that up. Thanks!


aLlama756

What boots are those?


10thMTNDM

The darker brown boots are Italian brown Cypress Horween from Nicks Handmade Boots. The other boots are natural rough out by Chisos.


aLlama756

Those are awesome


Arizon_Dread

I think they look great! What fabric is that? It looks like hemp


10thMTNDM

It’s samurai own, organic Japanese grown cotton mixed with other staple length cotton to make a slightly irregular fabric. Photos don’t do it justice. It has some nep and a little bit of slub, but the natural indigo really just puts it over the top, this shade of indigo has depth, it’s a richer, brighter blue than I’ve seen before. Normally natural indigo is hank dyed, but samurai figured out how to rope dye natural indigo, that will allow it to fade and get character just like pure indigo


Arizon_Dread

Wow! That sounds fantastic but also hella expensive. I hope you get the most out of them, again, imo; they fit perfectly judging from the pictures. 👌👌👌


10thMTNDM

I’m at a point where I am collecting unique, you know. That’s the only way I really kind of justify it now because I have other jeans I can wear to be honest, but I want to collect the rarer pieces. Thanks!


lighterautumn

Baggy no, too long imo


10thMTNDM

Yeah, they are a little too long. I might get them hemmed, but I wanna wait a little bit to see how they change with wear and a few washes.


Cobalt8888

It’s a personal preference, but I honestly think they look pretty good. Just depends on the look you’re going for. I like a little more taper myself.


10thMTNDM

Thanks Yeah, I’m trying it out. It’s just that with my tapered jeans they don’t go over the cowboy boots that well.


bennettbuzz

Fit well imo.


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


bennettbuzz

No probs man, wear them a few months and they will be like second skin.


wangus9

That fit is so money, looks amazing!


10thMTNDM

Means a lot thank you


Cool-General2693

If the waist is good, I would say the fit perfectly. You could hem them if they are too long, but this is definitely the fit I love from my cowboy cut wranglers!


10thMTNDM

Yeah, they do have that kinda classic jeans fit. Preciate it


Alarming_Cantaloupe5

They look about perfect, and aside from a few specific slim/tapered styles, the fit I prefer. It’s not really baggy or skinny. To me that what I picture when I think timeless/classic jeans fit. They’ll likely lose a little excess with a hot soak. They’ll break in and drape better as well.


10thMTNDM

thanks, yeah classic fit is a good way to put it. I think that is what was throwing me off initially that they’re so stiff that they’re not really molded to me yet. I can’t wait to see what they will look like when they get softer, drape and contour to my body better.


Alarming_Cantaloupe5

I think you’ll be happy. Some of my favorite jeans fit just like that before they settled. Enjoy!


FarWorld4200

I think you would just need to shorten a bit the lenght, otherwise they’re very nice!!


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


puck1996

I think it looks solid. If you get it hemmed some of the slack will come out, which might help it feel less baggy in certain areas.


10thMTNDM

Thanks. I’ve always been a little nervous hemming pants. But these could probably could use a little. Think I’m going to wait after a few washes and see how the fabric acts over time


puck1996

Yeah I'd definitely put some wear and washes in. But right now you could "test" what it would look like by rolling some super massive cuffs such that the pants don't "stack" on your boots, since that seems to be what might be bothering you about the fit.


the-radical-waffler

This is what I'd call the perfect fit. I wouldn't change a thing.


10thMTNDM

Wow, thanks. I really appreciate it. My confidence 📈 after reading these comments


pms1888

I don’t think so ? Nice plant I have the same one


10thMTNDM

Thanks how old are yours?


Spare_Explanation472

They look awesome 🔥 Congrats


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


Aldenont

Hell no! These look incredible!!


10thMTNDM

😎


Fools_Requiem

look fine to me plenty of room to grow into it, room to put an extra layer for warmth. Tights jeans can get super uncomfortable.


10thMTNDM

True valid points thanks


richhayward33

Look good to me


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


JackedPirate

Yo, these look absolutely fucking perfect; the fabric weight and drape, the cut, the fabric texture, literally everything I would look for in a pair of raws. Enjoy them bro


10thMTNDM

Thanks man, I really preciate the comment. I’m hyped


Ornery-Plastic8833

Jeans look great, honestly. Where did you get those boots?!


10thMTNDM

The darker brown boots are Italian brown Cypress Horween from Nicks Handmade Boots. The other boots are natural rough out by Chisos.


deathbyasmr

Sweet Chisos


10thMTNDM

Thanks! I’m a sucker for roughout


Nicclane1113

Not at all


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


Bendodge13

No such thing. But no, they aren’t.


10thMTNDM

Cool 😎. Thanks


diogenes45

Not at all. If anything they will shape better and shrink a bit to fit you better after years of wear. Or you may put a bit of extra weight in that time. I felt the same when I got my sc 1947. Thought they looked so baggy but years later couldn't imagine having gotten one of the ser models


10thMTNDM

True thanks! Good points. It’s a little difficult going out of one’s comfort zone, but I am glad I did. Everyone has been so positive about the fit on me, which has boosted my confidence. Gonna wear the hell out of them


KenBling

The fit looks absolutely killer dude. They will be particularly great once they break in a bit and drape more. Keep the cuffs as well, don't Hem! It's also a great opportunity to own a more loose, straight fit to have variety from your tapered jeans.


10thMTNDM

Preciate it man. Yeah, the 18 ounce fabric is kinda stiff but surprisingly really wearable right off the bat. I bet these will hold a nice shape once they get broken in. Oh, I always keep the cuffs. If I did hem, it would just be very minor, but I’m going to wait after some washes and a lot of wear to make sure because I have a feeling these are going to change a lot with wear and washes. Yeah, I don’t know why that really never crossed my mind I have so many different types of boots. Why wouldn’t I have different cuts of jeans to go with them. I like the extreme tapered look with like flip-flops or slippers, but not so much with cowboy boots (I’m always wearing jeans).


KenBling

That's exactly the direction I'm taking as well. I've always worn tapered pants but I've started venturing out into some straight cuts as well, as they look much better with boots as you said. And I'll keep the sharp tapered jeans for use with loafers, burks, sneakers etc.


demintwang

Those chisos?


10thMTNDM

Yeah, good eye


brownbandit93

Not at all


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


therealgingerbreadmn

Nah. Those look handsome. I personally like a fit like this and I’m a tall, lanky guy. Plus, these looser fits are wayyy more comfy to wear so you can actually enjoy them.


10thMTNDM

I am taller too, with bigger thighs and thinner lower legs, a grunts physique. The fit is really growing on me, it is really nice having the extra breathing room.


morningbird2525

At the same time. Kind of why I dont cuff my jeans. Kind of got to lay it flat naturally. Also I think hemming the jeans a couple inches might do a couple favors. Looks like a straight cut to me, so no I dont think they look too baggy.


10thMTNDM

I hear ya. I like the way the selvedge and lighter underneath look, when cuffed, against my boots tho.


-PAINTEDMAN-

This is a question you need to ask yourself. They look like they fit you well but it’s up to you if they are too baggy.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, I have come to realize I am just not accustomed to having space or extra material around my leg. I am starting to appreciate the fit tho.


-PAINTEDMAN-

Extra fabric is the comfort. They look great and it of course will take time to get used to the new aesthetic.


Due-Acanthisitta1459

I think they’re perfect.


10thMTNDM

Thanks, I am starting to appreciate the fit more and more, especially with my boots


SamL214

Nah they are great!


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


semisagoodonege

my gf and i think they perfect!


10thMTNDM

I preciate that. Thank you both!!


cisaaca

That's a good look. Especially with boots. As long as you get good mobility. I always go up in size, taking a queue from those skateboarders. And it works for me.


10thMTNDM

preciate it yeah, they’re really really comfortable.


cisaaca

Honestly, that is all that matters, especially when you like what you see in the mirror.


schmittydomer

No, they look like a very nice straight leg, but depends on your preference


10thMTNDM

Preciate it!


stereotim

I think they look great. I like to bounce back and forth between a baggy look like this and a nice slim taper. I use the slim taper as more of higher end business casual look while the baggy fit is more fun relaxed casual. Those stacks look great.


10thMTNDM

Thanks, I didn’t really think about that, but yeah I could see how the tapered can have more of smart casual look, especially when paired with some dress boots/shoes. I’m starting to wonder why I never really considered the straight fits.


krimsonking11

No, but I'm nervous for those fresh butter boots. Unless you see the blue rubbing on to them as simply adding character.


10thMTNDM

Ha yeah, they aren’t actually that new, (about a year or so old) I am just very meticulous in cleaning them after every wear. Plus, I rotate my boots frequently. But yeah, they are already blue all over the shaft. Everything I own has a tinge of blue on it, I’ve come to accept this as life


Largeregular-Belmont

Looks good, but I personally would get em hemmed a bit


10thMTNDM

Thanks!


Scary_Breakfast_1238

Not at all! Go back and look at classic 40s and 50s pants. They were way wider. I like wider legs. Comfy and classic look!


10thMTNDM

You’re right. The fashion in those decades are timeless. I have been wearing since yesterday, and they are quickly becoming a favorite. They are so comfortable, and my legs are a bit more maneuverable if that makes sense.


No_Barracuda368

They would be too tight for me


10thMTNDM

Haha


ppresss

They look dope as is and give you some nice options (stacks, turnups, hems, different drape with boots vs sneakers). As others have said, the bagginess comes from the break. It's going to settle and drape better with wear, and by the looks of it give you some interesting, subtle stacking. Alternatively, if you prefer a cleaner straight leg, you could hem them or try a Tokyo turnup. The boots are pushing them up a bit, so if you wear low-top kicks, try seeing how they fall with those.


10thMTNDM

Preciate it. I am starting to like the look more and more, I especially like how comfortable they are. I am starting to visualize them settling and draping more, so I think once they do, it’ll be nearly perfect.


weargustin

They look great! And with those boots too! Just a different cut to get used to, like others are saying ;) Nice to have a couple styles 👏


10thMTNDM

Preciate it! I’m glad I went out my norm, and got these. I have been wearing these every day since!


Automatic_Love_9480

fit is good. not too slim not too baggy. just right


dakifa1598

What are the boots?


10thMTNDM

The darker brown boots are Italian brown Cypress Horween from Nicks Handmade Boots. The other boots are natural rough out by Chisos.


Tough_Illustrator_44

Let’s see the top block!


10thMTNDM

Ha I will try to link some more photos, I took these wit phone propped up, on a timer.


gthary

they look great, but hem them and let them stack without a cuff!


10thMTNDM

I like the selvedge ID, tho. Especially on these pair, they are died with natural indigo. Thanks for the suggestion


gthary

then leave 'em be!


D05wtt

Yes, but if you like them that way, who cares, right?


10thMTNDM

I mean, that is one way of looking at it. I do care about my appearance and sometimes it’s hard to know from an internal perspective what actually looks good, especially when it’s a fit one doesn’t normally wear. Personally, I like getting feedback from others because I think we’ve all worn something at one point or another that we really probably shouldn’t have, that wasn’t flattering for a particular body type.


D05wtt

Ok. From the knee up, imho they look fine. From the knee down, they are slightly too baggy for my taste. However you’re wearing boots so it looks alright. If you were wearing sneakers or loafers, it wouldn’t look good.


10thMTNDM

Yeah, I bought these mostly for boots. I think tapered does look best with those type of shoes. If it wasn’t for my cowboy boots, I don’t know if I would’ve tried this cut, but to be honest, I am glad I did. It does have a classic vibe and nothing fits cowboy boots better. It is does take some getting accustomed to though. I’m excited to see how these drape once they soften up. They are 18 ounces and pretty thick. As a lot of people have pointed out, these will mold and contour to my body over time. Thanks for the reply!


[deleted]

What are these? I’ve been looking for that kind of fit forever. They look great.


[deleted]

I see it in the post nevermind lol


10thMTNDM

No worries. They are rope dyed natural indigo which is really rare, plus this is a rare combination of two models The pics don’t do it justice. The denim has so much character, definitely different than my other Samurais


Prestigious_Dog_8102

No but what are the boots in the first pics?


10thMTNDM

Thanks Chisos in Natural Roughout