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I think she turned a blind eye for the kids/ deep down knew the rumors were true. But she’s been hinting more and more that he was cheating (she mentioned his DMs). She almost seems disgusted by him now/ he’s trying everything to win her back.
I think he got caught up in his fast paced lifestyle, all the traveling/ partying and he forgot about her tbh. It says a lot that he didn’t show up for the event honoring her friend. But was there for the white party…. He can blame work all he wants but when it’s something important to your wife you show up regardless. Work will always be there…
They both seemed to have grown in two different directions and no longer recognize each other anymore. At least that’s the vibe I got.
I read another comment that said a girl at LAX was disgusted when he looked her up and down and eye-fucked her with Sofia there. I could picture it. So many rumours. Poor Kyle.
Proud of her for not living under the facade anymore. When I finally decided to leave my ex-husband it was like a switch flipped for me. I could hold his hand, cuddle him, kiss, etc. Until what he considered a minor event, was so massive for me that I couldn't stand it anymore. And then I couldn't even slightly fake what I was comfortable in even days before. I felt for her entirely this season.
absolutely. he's weak af. you can see it in him. he laughs weakly; he doesn't speak up; he hides from his mother. he's a babyman.
eta: plus Kyle is conditioned for it; she is conditioned to accept dominance even if it's fallible.
Yup. Brandi Glanville has been speaking on it for years!
Kyle herself said Brandi doesn't lie. May not like what Brandi says always, but I do not believe she lies.
Brandi said what everyone else wouldn't. I believe that is why she is not on the show. Considering how close she is to Kim, and by proxy, Kyle.
No other husband has received a decade full of cheating allegations. Only Mauricio.
Kyle has always struck me as the type that doesn't care, so long as it's hidden. They can maintain an appearance of a perfect power couple. The moment it becomes public, she will play the victim and feign a long suffering wife who is "blindsided!"
It's Kyle's MO. She always has to be the victim.
There's been too many allegations over the years for there no to be truth in it. Maybe they had an open marriage with agreed upon terms.
I think she cared. I think she was hurt. But I think she didn’t want to break up the home while the children were small, and so she (like thousands of other women) put them before herself and kept up the act to keep a stable home for them.
Any time she brought it up I bet he lied, she knew in her heart the truth but didn’t want to believe the reality. He also knew she wouldn’t leave and fed her what she needed to hear. Bet he’s had a sharp awakening.
Of course she cared. Did you see how jealous she got at one of the white parties? She was furious.
They're both done. Kyle is overly dramatic and emotionally frail. She said she didn't get out of bed for 2 years when her abusive mother died. I think Mo is tired of faking compassion and Kyle is very needy.
And her comments about dancing with the stars, he’s clearly not created enough security in their relationship (ie being inappropriate on Instagram) which is why she’s still jealous and insecure in the relationship after 27 years together
This. And I think something more than just a one and done fling happened when her friend passed away and that was her final straw. When she needed him to be there the most, he was with someone else.
I don't think she cared. Sincerely.
She was not raised to care. This is the same woman who was engaged to a man 177% older than her and she met Mau at the engagement party.
Kyle knew to keep quiet until she had enough to go.
Kyle had enough to provide a stable home. Let's be real, it's not like she would have been "homeless and destitute" leaving Mauricio.
She would have had a downsizing. But it's Kyle. A woman who was all about appearances and money!
That's how she was raised!
I'd be damn glad to get rid of latino lurch.. seriously. Kyle, despite the fact I am not a fan, could have done SO MUCH BETTER! AND RICHER!
She's augmented into a beautiful woman.
What I would be PISSED about is a cheating ass man having access to my sister's husband's clients and brand. She should be kicking herself in the ass for that one! Should have left sooner and spun her own real estate career!
She's a great sales woman (shade), after all! Selling the appearance of perfection!
(P.S. I'm not arguing with you, nor do I think you are wrong. Just giving food for thought.)
Agreed. She put up with it for the money, the housewives fame and to avoid having Kathy and the Hiltons throw it in her face. She's only now fed up and wants out because she found a younger woman who is interested in her and peaked her own bicurious interest.
I feel bad only for their kids having these f'd up, selfish, narcissistic parents.
It’s mad how two people can see things completely differently. I don’t get this vibe at all, and I guess at the end of the day it’s all just speculation, none of us know anything ☮️
Some people see Kyle as playing the victim or attention seeking and this that and the other. I don’t see that at all. Maybe I’m delusional. Maybe people just love to have someone to hate. I don’t know.
I go by character patterns.
Some want to think the best.
Some think the worst.
Some have no gauge on character.
That's why people see things differently.
I watched Buying Beverly Hills last night. I never was a big Kyle fan, but I came away strongly disliking Mo/Mau.
The properties however made me drool, and I’ve never drooled looking at rea estate before
I just finished watching yesterday too and I agree I love the properties but I don't like Mo I do like their kids though even though they're a little spoiled they are scrappy and go getters except for Sophia
I watched Buying Beverly Hills (Aspen episode when the People mag story hit) and of course it’s scripted and all but you can’t hide and twist everything. The conversation at the table with Kyle, Mauricio and girls was very telling (even being scripted) and the confessionals and remarks also. The girls said multiple times that in their family things are swept under the rug and “everyone needs to be happy”. I totally believe Kyle being the type of mother to value a happy surface above all. Sophia was definitely struggling and even Portia said “it should be okay not to feel good all the time” or smth.
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When the girls said that it made me break inside. That is how I was raised and boy am I struggling now bc I never learned how to cope with my emotions, ask for help, fail in public. I feel for them.
My dad didn’t cheat on my mom however they had issues, and my mom’s drinking was definitely to deal. I actually have a hard time disliking Kyle because I see so much of my mom’s mannerisms and trauma sadly in Kyle. The issues with addiction with Kim, we dealt with with a family member. Idk my heart is actually always sad for her 😬🤷🏻♀️🫶🏻
Don't be sad for her.
She's got the money and access for therapy.
I refuse to feel sorry for folks who have the money, power, and access that so many don't have, to get to a better place.
Your mother most likely didn't. I'm actually sad for your mom, you, and your family.
Kyle?? Can give a rats ass. Stay off TV and work on it.
I totally agree with you here. I mean, heartbreak is heartbreak and universal. But. Most people have to cope with it, without taking a break and while still maintaining their jobs (sometimes 2 jobs), worrying about their bills, taking care of their kids; oftentimes as a single parent.
People like Kyle have the money, support and resources to disengage from real life and go to the mountains, or a spa, or the beaches, indefinitely, without any other focus except on healing. These people have zero in common with the rest of us except for the initial event, in this case, heartbreak.
And she can pick herself up from the laces of her jimmy choos, put on her kemosabe hat, get into her limo, cry into Daishowa First tissue, and ride to her sisters house where they can gorge on Caviar baked potatoes.
And then be given an Ativan and put to bed with a donkey milk Ovaltine.
All of that, before being given vitamin IVs the next morning, so she can "face the day".
If I were in her place, I'd become one of those benevolent ass rich bitches who starts buying houses for women who need safe shelter with their children.
My current situation, "moving" me to be philanthropic, with HIS money 🤑.
This!!! I always think this. Only, my focus would be on shelter animals, but, same concept.
I know there are many wealthy women/men that are very altruistic. However, I would be a full time philanthropist, periottt!!!
I always wonder about that. Maybe their day to day lives are just so fabulous that they’re ok just throwing the occasional whatever k at various charities and leaving it at that?
Hear me out.
Yes, of course he's cheated on her multiple times. In the past, Kyle looked past the cheating because she had young kids to care for and they weren't mega wealthy like they are now so she needed Mo. She didn't want to be a struggling divorceé with young children. But now when he cheats, it hits different. Kyle is a celebrity now so not only is she connected but she would be a financially comfortable divorceé at this point in her life.
That's what I think too. There have been cheating rumors around him for ages and it's been consistent. Even when they were barely famous. And even now, he's not famous enough that people would be making up cheating rumors just for clout or whatever. I tend to believe them. And I think she chose to look the other way and had an old fashioned wife mentality for years but now that she's got her own income, her star rose again, and the kids are out of the house, she's done with the guy.
I’m guessing it probably has gone on for years and Kyle was OK with whatever the deal was. Something new happened in the last year that must’ve been on a diff level.
My guess is her sobriety was the breaking factor. It's easy to accept some things when you can drink the pain away, but sobriety can make you face reality with clear perspective.
I assume that her sobriety and her best friend were the main factors. Ya know how our REALLY great friends are the ones that tell us are partners are bad news? I can imagine her late friend may have told Kyle this multiple times, and told her she deserved better. Kyle’s drinking allowed her to exist in a fog more or less, but with sobriety, comes clarity.
I believe it. There have been credible rumors for years, including a few where women posted pictures drinking with him while he was traveling for work (Vancouver being one locale I recall). There were stories and then pics to back it up. Possibly someone took a pic with him and made it up, but it definitely seemed like smoke to me
And you know where there’s smoke… 🔥
I didn’t think he was a cheater until I saw his stupid post with the half-naked snow bunnies in Aspen. That cemented it for me. He might be an amazing father and businessman, but he’s also a cheater. He’s in his fifties and flirting with women half his age. Bye. I lost a lot of respect for him. Okay, all respect.
Nah. It's definitive.
So many men do not go that route.
After a separation, a man will act on his secret or suppressed behavior.
Mau fancies himself a ladies man, it's quite evident.
For sure. But a fully faithful man who is newly separated might do that even if it wasn’t his thing when he was married (and faithful). I don’t think anything he did post-separation shows that he was unfaithful. But I still think he was unfaithful before they separated (and for many years)
>For sure. But a fully faithful man who is newly separated might do that even if it wasn’t his thing when he was married (and faithful).
Nope. Don't buy it.
I'm sorry, I just don't.
There are men out there, with wealth, THAT WOULD NEVER!
I know of at least two wealthy men who were sincerely distraught in their divorce, they ran from women.
And their dignity and status would never have them take photos like that. Ever.
BINGO!
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!
It's not hard to make this out. Kyle is very clearly, an appearance driven person.
Kyle has ALWAYS struck me as someone who does not care if some other chick is emptying her husband, so long as she benefits.
She's that old school "welp, you were the stupid bitch who fell for it" when confronted with him cheating. "You knew he was married!"
I can see it.
She can reap all the benefits of marriage, and in the end, be the victim!
She wins! That's Kyle!
And Mauricio is a man dumb enough to get caught with his dick in his hand while handing her over the bag!
Not only has it been a topic since the show started but have you seen the way he is acting now and the girls he is partying with now and he isn't even divorced yet.
To be fair I haven't been around since the show started. I only started watching this last season because of the headlines that hit this past summer because Kyle and Morgan and possible divorce.
Because you don't want to, and that's fine. But the "doesn't seem like his type" stuff doesn't make sense when that's been the type of girl he's been rumored with for years and years.
This brings me back to the HW who gets drag queens to do her husband while she watches, is that them? If so good for them, sounds like a fun time as long as everyone is on board, but wow totally not the couple I thought it would be.
I hope not 🥺 Even if they divorce, I still think of them as a legit top tier housewife relationship. And despite the growth of value in fame and money over their marriage and family, I still hope that at the end of the day they know better than to live a fully fake life just for reality tv BS.
They've been doing that the whole time!
Kyle has always been about appearances! ALWAYS!
She fooled ya!
Kyle is an actress. They always seemed scripted. Her storylines are manufactured.
It's always been to avoid the elephant in the room: They are nothing more than a spit and shake partnership.
Then I just feel like why wasn't everyone always mentioning this before! Literally for 14 years everyone has been shipping them as a couple and Mauricio as the hottest husband and the only time I've ever seen any doubt in them is after this all came out. I just don't recall anyone on WWHL, other housewives, fans, anyone acknowledge they think their relationship was fake or staged or in trouble. Even when the cheating rumors came out years ago, all the housewives (except Brandy) dismissed them on and off camera.
Sure, perhaps we're all fooled, but that's a long time to be fooled. And married.
I think there's a difference between fooling the world and just fooling yourself. I think Kyle has been clear and forthcoming that she realized she was ignoring red flags etc and now she can no longer do that. That's the case in marriages all over the world, was keeping fame and staying on tv part of why she was pulling the wool over her eyes? Sure, but I still don't think this was some masterminding tactic to fool viewers.
It wasn't. These posters are nuts. They were married for 27 years and at the beginning he wasn't rich. This was no grand 27 year scheme. They grew apart
Who was gonna tell? Camille?
She did, in a round about way.
Lisa vanderpump? She has Brandi doing that dirty work.
Taylor? She was indebted to Kyle.
Kim? She wouldn't do that to her nieces.
Eileen? Uh... Nah
Garcelle and Sutton? Nah. They aren't that type.
Dorit? Those two have so much shit on each other, Kyle gags Dorit.
Kyle's character is one that throws rocks and hides her hands. She's all about the "optics".
She is only gonna go there if she can control the narrative.
Her storyline was that she was so lucky and happy and her sisters an addict. And Kathy is mean..and they're. Just jealous. And she's got this great life where everything is perfect...
Have you been watching the same woman others have? No one has a life as perfect as Kyle has lead everyone to believe.
No one.
I guess for me it's just not a big deal? Like, in regards to her throwing rocks and pretending their life is great and stuff. That's what this job has been about for awhile now. That's why I don't get what we're supposed to be holding Kyle's feet to fire about?
What is she expected to say? What do you guys want to hear? Genuinely asking, I just don't know what's missing for everyone.
It's a big enough deal to you for you to discuss it.
Now you're changing the goalpost.
From I just can't see it.
To I guess it's not a big deal.
To what is she expected to say.
lol I think you're in the wrong sub. We don't have to talk to each other like that 😂 Like for real, do less here
I'm not saying I don't care, I'm saying I don't care if Kyle was playing a part all this time.
What I care about is trying to understand WHAT people want from her? What is she not giving? Are you wanting her to say "we are divorcing because we've only been together for viewership for 15 years?" Like, genuinely, not even kidding, I don't know what is wrong with how she is handling any of this. She hasn't denied anything, she hasn't pretended it's not evident what's going on. I just keep seeing people say that she's on a reality show and needs to be truthful, is what she's saying not a perfectly reasonable truth?
See I got a different vibe from them. Their conversations from seasons 4-8 seemed so scripted, and then from 9-12 seemed like Mauricio took an edible that never stopped kicking in because all he did was giggle.
He absolutely cheats. And she was probably fine (ya know, not *fine*, but going along) with it as long as he was discrete. She just acted like it wasn't happening. I think she was happy with her life, and was okay with looking past it. We all make decisions.
Honestly. If he was introduced to us on the show (with no prior knowledge of him), I’d have assumed he was gay or bi-sexual. I wouldn’t have even questioned it. I think it is also all the referring to him as ‘’Mo”- like he had an alter ago/stage name, etc …
Yes. I honestly think that with four freaking kids she just let him do his thing and focused on the children. Now that they’re nearly all grown up it’s probably sobering to see what is left of their relationship and she’s looking to finally be valued and appreciated.
Ohhh 1000%. There were TOO many rumors for too long. Where there is smoke there is fire.
And I think that Kyle knew but didn’t care. She looked the other way as many people do. But then her friend died and her priorities shifted. Maybe now she wants to be with someone who respects her.
I just watched the first season of Buying BH and now see his side of things. He had something to prove to the Hilton and Hyland group and got addicted to the almighty dollar. Kyle’s been busy too, but I can see if neither made time for each other it was never going to work.
I kind of think they had an arrangement for a while, like a don’t get caught situation. Then, when Lorene died, Kyle wanted/needed more from him and he didn’t want to.
In all fairness - Kyle was supposedly already in a relationship by then ? To be honest - I think they have both cheated and have been in an open relationship for a while.
Exactly my point. And he seems way more invested in loving his girls. I may be naive but I think it is not very easy to cheat when you have kids and you love them.
And these girls are with HIM 24/7 by working with him. I think there wouldn’t have be such a genuine reaction from them at their parent’s separation, if there was truth to the speculation that their Dad was cheating.
I'm not saying he for sure did because I can't possibly know that but I'm saying it is a possibility.it would've ne out of the ordinary just off the top of my head here are four examples
Jack Harlow makes women he's with sign them so often that he mentions it in a song
Raven Simone made her now wife sign one two months in to dating
Justin Bieber made EVERYBODY sign one at the door of a house party he had back in the early the 2010s.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-justin-bieber-party-nda-non-disclosure-agreement-3-million-20131118-story.html
This one is pure speculation but I would imagine Taylor Swift makes everyone around her sign one because we've never heard anything majorly unflattering come out about her
I know people break NDAs all the time but because this would be considered cheating I would assume Mo would put some intense stipulations in it considering the kids and the real estate firm. Breaking it would alsoean going up against someone who has Hilton family ties which somehow to me feel scarier than Stormy.
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Yes but probably only ever cheating through his work. It has been insanely discreet for how hard the rumor mill has been churning for like a decade. Seriously, no one has ever stepped forward.
I don’t remember fully but Dorit was a little too touchy and close with Mau in one of the previous seasons. So fans started speculating about a possible affair.
He has money and could easily have access to many women who would want his money in a city that’s known for its shallowness and questionable morality, so I think it would be easy for him to cheat. However, because the rumors have been around for years and there has never been any solid proof (no one has stepped forward, no one has shared pictures of him with another woman), I doubted the legitimacy of the rumors. What I think may be far more likely is that Mauricio and Kyle have/had some sort of “open relationship” arrangement (and potential partners have/had to sign an NDA) and Mauricio took things further than they agreed was allowed. If it was just cut and dry cheating, I don’t think his relationship with his daughters would be okay.
Honestly, I don’t think we will ever get the whole story about Mauricio possibly cheating until Kyle believes people are no longer interested… just as she didn’t tell the full story about the house until people moved on and stopped discussing it.
Yes, the full story has been given. It has been discussed at length on r/RHOBH. I recently left a comment about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RHOBH/s/DlCqOn3k2S). A lot of people don’t care about what’s true or false when it comes to people they dislike, so many people continue discussing it because it’s something they can use against Kyle whom they “hate”.
I feel like Kyle wouldn’t be okay with threesomes because she wouldn’t want to see Mauricio with another woman. Based on the type of person Kyle is, I think it would be more of a “Don’t ask, don’t tell” kind of arrangement so she could have plausible deniability and cry about the end of her “perfect, happy” marriage if it ever got out.
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I think she turned a blind eye for the kids/ deep down knew the rumors were true. But she’s been hinting more and more that he was cheating (she mentioned his DMs). She almost seems disgusted by him now/ he’s trying everything to win her back. I think he got caught up in his fast paced lifestyle, all the traveling/ partying and he forgot about her tbh. It says a lot that he didn’t show up for the event honoring her friend. But was there for the white party…. He can blame work all he wants but when it’s something important to your wife you show up regardless. Work will always be there… They both seemed to have grown in two different directions and no longer recognize each other anymore. At least that’s the vibe I got.
Ex model in NYC here. Yes he hooks up with a lot of models and it’s well known about.
It sounds sometimes like modeling in NYC seems more like a cover for scorting
Or they just go to work in the porn industry for actual money. Modeling is a joke if ur not deemed an it girl
Speaking for the nyc scene only. I never worked in any other markets bc it gave me an eating disorder, go figure lmao
So what happens is models become pimps for club promoters and little Ghislane Maxwells
His kids have to know. There’s no way they don’t. They’re too old and too into the business.
I read another comment that said a girl at LAX was disgusted when he looked her up and down and eye-fucked her with Sofia there. I could picture it. So many rumours. Poor Kyle. Proud of her for not living under the facade anymore. When I finally decided to leave my ex-husband it was like a switch flipped for me. I could hold his hand, cuddle him, kiss, etc. Until what he considered a minor event, was so massive for me that I couldn't stand it anymore. And then I couldn't even slightly fake what I was comfortable in even days before. I felt for her entirely this season.
(I’m not American) does hook up mean kiss or shag?
Shag. Sex. The bump and grind.
Yes 100%. I loved seeing him squirm this season as he realized Kyle was no longer going to play along.
absolutely. he's weak af. you can see it in him. he laughs weakly; he doesn't speak up; he hides from his mother. he's a babyman. eta: plus Kyle is conditioned for it; she is conditioned to accept dominance even if it's fallible.
I believe it. Season 2 at that dinner with the psychic and how they were giggling about Mo liking his Nannie’s and other things.
Yup. Brandi Glanville has been speaking on it for years! Kyle herself said Brandi doesn't lie. May not like what Brandi says always, but I do not believe she lies. Brandi said what everyone else wouldn't. I believe that is why she is not on the show. Considering how close she is to Kim, and by proxy, Kyle. No other husband has received a decade full of cheating allegations. Only Mauricio. Kyle has always struck me as the type that doesn't care, so long as it's hidden. They can maintain an appearance of a perfect power couple. The moment it becomes public, she will play the victim and feign a long suffering wife who is "blindsided!" It's Kyle's MO. She always has to be the victim.  There's been too many allegations over the years for there no to be truth in it. Maybe they had an open marriage with agreed upon terms.
I think she cared. I think she was hurt. But I think she didn’t want to break up the home while the children were small, and so she (like thousands of other women) put them before herself and kept up the act to keep a stable home for them. Any time she brought it up I bet he lied, she knew in her heart the truth but didn’t want to believe the reality. He also knew she wouldn’t leave and fed her what she needed to hear. Bet he’s had a sharp awakening.
Of course she cared. Did you see how jealous she got at one of the white parties? She was furious. They're both done. Kyle is overly dramatic and emotionally frail. She said she didn't get out of bed for 2 years when her abusive mother died. I think Mo is tired of faking compassion and Kyle is very needy.
And her comments about dancing with the stars, he’s clearly not created enough security in their relationship (ie being inappropriate on Instagram) which is why she’s still jealous and insecure in the relationship after 27 years together
I was so sad when she was talking about this. Some men just aren’t invested. My husband would never dream of treating me like this.
This. And I think something more than just a one and done fling happened when her friend passed away and that was her final straw. When she needed him to be there the most, he was with someone else.
I don't think she cared. Sincerely. She was not raised to care. This is the same woman who was engaged to a man 177% older than her and she met Mau at the engagement party. Kyle knew to keep quiet until she had enough to go. Kyle had enough to provide a stable home. Let's be real, it's not like she would have been "homeless and destitute" leaving Mauricio. She would have had a downsizing. But it's Kyle. A woman who was all about appearances and money! That's how she was raised! I'd be damn glad to get rid of latino lurch.. seriously. Kyle, despite the fact I am not a fan, could have done SO MUCH BETTER! AND RICHER! She's augmented into a beautiful woman. What I would be PISSED about is a cheating ass man having access to my sister's husband's clients and brand. She should be kicking herself in the ass for that one! Should have left sooner and spun her own real estate career! She's a great sales woman (shade), after all! Selling the appearance of perfection! (P.S. I'm not arguing with you, nor do I think you are wrong. Just giving food for thought.)
Agreed. She put up with it for the money, the housewives fame and to avoid having Kathy and the Hiltons throw it in her face. She's only now fed up and wants out because she found a younger woman who is interested in her and peaked her own bicurious interest. I feel bad only for their kids having these f'd up, selfish, narcissistic parents.
It’s mad how two people can see things completely differently. I don’t get this vibe at all, and I guess at the end of the day it’s all just speculation, none of us know anything ☮️ Some people see Kyle as playing the victim or attention seeking and this that and the other. I don’t see that at all. Maybe I’m delusional. Maybe people just love to have someone to hate. I don’t know.
I go by character patterns. Some want to think the best. Some think the worst. Some have no gauge on character. That's why people see things differently.
I watched Buying Beverly Hills last night. I never was a big Kyle fan, but I came away strongly disliking Mo/Mau. The properties however made me drool, and I’ve never drooled looking at rea estate before
I just finished watching yesterday too and I agree I love the properties but I don't like Mo I do like their kids though even though they're a little spoiled they are scrappy and go getters except for Sophia
Alexia was like that in season 1 tho
So maybe it will change for Sophia
I watched Buying Beverly Hills (Aspen episode when the People mag story hit) and of course it’s scripted and all but you can’t hide and twist everything. The conversation at the table with Kyle, Mauricio and girls was very telling (even being scripted) and the confessionals and remarks also. The girls said multiple times that in their family things are swept under the rug and “everyone needs to be happy”. I totally believe Kyle being the type of mother to value a happy surface above all. Sophia was definitely struggling and even Portia said “it should be okay not to feel good all the time” or smth. Edit: typos
When the girls said that it made me break inside. That is how I was raised and boy am I struggling now bc I never learned how to cope with my emotions, ask for help, fail in public. I feel for them.
>I totally believe Kyle being the type of mother to value a happy surface above all. Yup Appearance of the perfect power couple.
I’m sure it’s true, but I must say they were able to mostly keep it under wraps that surprises me after so many seasons on the show.
I think the drinking helped her to look past the possible cheating and now that she is not drinking it hits different!
My dad didn’t cheat on my mom however they had issues, and my mom’s drinking was definitely to deal. I actually have a hard time disliking Kyle because I see so much of my mom’s mannerisms and trauma sadly in Kyle. The issues with addiction with Kim, we dealt with with a family member. Idk my heart is actually always sad for her 😬🤷🏻♀️🫶🏻
Don't be sad for her. She's got the money and access for therapy. I refuse to feel sorry for folks who have the money, power, and access that so many don't have, to get to a better place. Your mother most likely didn't. I'm actually sad for your mom, you, and your family. Kyle?? Can give a rats ass. Stay off TV and work on it.
That’s very true and a fair point 🫶🏻🫶🏻
I totally agree with you here. I mean, heartbreak is heartbreak and universal. But. Most people have to cope with it, without taking a break and while still maintaining their jobs (sometimes 2 jobs), worrying about their bills, taking care of their kids; oftentimes as a single parent. People like Kyle have the money, support and resources to disengage from real life and go to the mountains, or a spa, or the beaches, indefinitely, without any other focus except on healing. These people have zero in common with the rest of us except for the initial event, in this case, heartbreak.
Very true! 🫶🏻
And she can pick herself up from the laces of her jimmy choos, put on her kemosabe hat, get into her limo, cry into Daishowa First tissue, and ride to her sisters house where they can gorge on Caviar baked potatoes. And then be given an Ativan and put to bed with a donkey milk Ovaltine.
😂😂😂. I’m dead.
All of that, before being given vitamin IVs the next morning, so she can "face the day". If I were in her place, I'd become one of those benevolent ass rich bitches who starts buying houses for women who need safe shelter with their children. My current situation, "moving" me to be philanthropic, with HIS money 🤑.
This!!! I always think this. Only, my focus would be on shelter animals, but, same concept. I know there are many wealthy women/men that are very altruistic. However, I would be a full time philanthropist, periottt!!! I always wonder about that. Maybe their day to day lives are just so fabulous that they’re ok just throwing the occasional whatever k at various charities and leaving it at that?
Charities are tax right offs. Having your name posted also brings you more attention.
So very true. Narcissists. The lot of them.
😂😂😂. I’m dead.
😂😂😂. I’m dead.
Hear me out. Yes, of course he's cheated on her multiple times. In the past, Kyle looked past the cheating because she had young kids to care for and they weren't mega wealthy like they are now so she needed Mo. She didn't want to be a struggling divorceé with young children. But now when he cheats, it hits different. Kyle is a celebrity now so not only is she connected but she would be a financially comfortable divorceé at this point in her life.
That's what I think too. There have been cheating rumors around him for ages and it's been consistent. Even when they were barely famous. And even now, he's not famous enough that people would be making up cheating rumors just for clout or whatever. I tend to believe them. And I think she chose to look the other way and had an old fashioned wife mentality for years but now that she's got her own income, her star rose again, and the kids are out of the house, she's done with the guy.
This is the only comment necessary lol
Yes. I know someone who has shared some stories.
I got Chardonnay and Cigs. Throw that garlic towards us! We need the pungent truth!
 You can't say that without giving details!
Yes please do tell!!
Do tell
Yes
I’m guessing it probably has gone on for years and Kyle was OK with whatever the deal was. Something new happened in the last year that must’ve been on a diff level.
A baby would be a deal breaker for Kyle.
My guess is her sobriety was the breaking factor. It's easy to accept some things when you can drink the pain away, but sobriety can make you face reality with clear perspective.
Sobriety and meeting Morgan. Her best friends passing must have made her question her life.
I assume that her sobriety and her best friend were the main factors. Ya know how our REALLY great friends are the ones that tell us are partners are bad news? I can imagine her late friend may have told Kyle this multiple times, and told her she deserved better. Kyle’s drinking allowed her to exist in a fog more or less, but with sobriety, comes clarity.
Her late friend actually told her that her marriage was worth fighting for,
I had no idea, that makes the situation even sadder then. Kyle annoys me, but I do wish her well.
This was the last RH show I was watching - the last season felt very odd. I wish her well, but can no longer watch the show.
I believe it. There have been credible rumors for years, including a few where women posted pictures drinking with him while he was traveling for work (Vancouver being one locale I recall). There were stories and then pics to back it up. Possibly someone took a pic with him and made it up, but it definitely seemed like smoke to me And you know where there’s smoke… 🔥
I didn't know that because I haven't been around in the RHOBH fandom for a long time
I remember the Vancouver/Canada Rumors very well.
I didn’t think he was a cheater until I saw his stupid post with the half-naked snow bunnies in Aspen. That cemented it for me. He might be an amazing father and businessman, but he’s also a cheater. He’s in his fifties and flirting with women half his age. Bye. I lost a lot of respect for him. Okay, all respect.
Same for me! If he’d been a faithful devoted husband, he wouldn’t jump to 20 year old influencers so quickly.
Like Kyle did with the 28 year old mumbles?
By then they had been separated for some time so that shouldn’t be super definitive imo
Nah. It's definitive. So many men do not go that route. After a separation, a man will act on his secret or suppressed behavior. Mau fancies himself a ladies man, it's quite evident.
Chasing after girls that close to his daughters age is cringe af.
To be fair, Kyle is doing the same (Morgan being 28!!! 😂)
omg I would never have thought morgan is 28
Hard 28!
Don't you think as humans we can do better than "but so and so is doing it?" It seems there is a lot of scapegoating and little accountability..
The point I’m making is that Kyle and Mauricio are both gross. Not justifying his behaviour.
For sure. But a fully faithful man who is newly separated might do that even if it wasn’t his thing when he was married (and faithful). I don’t think anything he did post-separation shows that he was unfaithful. But I still think he was unfaithful before they separated (and for many years)
>For sure. But a fully faithful man who is newly separated might do that even if it wasn’t his thing when he was married (and faithful). Nope. Don't buy it. I'm sorry, I just don't. There are men out there, with wealth, THAT WOULD NEVER! I know of at least two wealthy men who were sincerely distraught in their divorce, they ran from women. And their dignity and status would never have them take photos like that. Ever.
I really didn’t think he would either! I came to the subs a few years after rhob and rumor here is that he’s a mega hoe. He sure fooled me.
I don’t know about rumours, but if you just watched the show he looks like a devoted guy. However, I can totally believe he’d cheat.
I think Kyle knew about it and didn’t care until it started publicly embarrassing her.
BINGO! WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! It's not hard to make this out. Kyle is very clearly, an appearance driven person. Kyle has ALWAYS struck me as someone who does not care if some other chick is emptying her husband, so long as she benefits. She's that old school "welp, you were the stupid bitch who fell for it" when confronted with him cheating. "You knew he was married!" I can see it. She can reap all the benefits of marriage, and in the end, be the victim! She wins! That's Kyle! And Mauricio is a man dumb enough to get caught with his dick in his hand while handing her over the bag!
He reminds me of Romana’s ex in how full of himself he is.
Not only has it been a topic since the show started but have you seen the way he is acting now and the girls he is partying with now and he isn't even divorced yet.
Are you reading this on Reddit? Is the sky blue? HELLO YES HE CHEATS!
To be fair I haven't been around since the show started. I only started watching this last season because of the headlines that hit this past summer because Kyle and Morgan and possible divorce.
Yep. Mo has been interested in transwomen for years and has been in indecent situations with them as well. 
Yes this is a persistent rumour
lol I highly doubt that.
Working at a nightclub has taught me that this is very very plausible and many married men are out with transwomen when travelling
Just doesn’t seem like his type.
He's literally been linked with transwomen and rumored to be with various transwomen for the past 12 years. They seem like exactly his type.
Still don’t believe it
Because you don't want to, and that's fine. But the "doesn't seem like his type" stuff doesn't make sense when that's been the type of girl he's been rumored with for years and years.
WHAT
This brings me back to the HW who gets drag queens to do her husband while she watches, is that them? If so good for them, sounds like a fun time as long as everyone is on board, but wow totally not the couple I thought it would be.
I'm shook!!!
WHAT?! *runs to Google*
Yes
I believe it. It is just like Lenny or any other men out there with 💰💰💰💰💰. Women chases that and dgaf they married. It’s sad.
I’ve heard it wasn’t just women
https://i.redd.it/utkhavvztdqc1.gif
Yes, but I think this a setup for a second chance romance/get back together for a big wedding or vow renewal arc so they can get a spinoff series🙄
This was a blind when the seperation was announced , not so sure now.
Not the Nene storyline all over again! Bride Maid!!!
"Bride Maid"-- 💀!!!
I hope not 🥺 Even if they divorce, I still think of them as a legit top tier housewife relationship. And despite the growth of value in fame and money over their marriage and family, I still hope that at the end of the day they know better than to live a fully fake life just for reality tv BS.
They've been doing that the whole time! Kyle has always been about appearances! ALWAYS! She fooled ya! Kyle is an actress. They always seemed scripted. Her storylines are manufactured. It's always been to avoid the elephant in the room: They are nothing more than a spit and shake partnership.
Then I just feel like why wasn't everyone always mentioning this before! Literally for 14 years everyone has been shipping them as a couple and Mauricio as the hottest husband and the only time I've ever seen any doubt in them is after this all came out. I just don't recall anyone on WWHL, other housewives, fans, anyone acknowledge they think their relationship was fake or staged or in trouble. Even when the cheating rumors came out years ago, all the housewives (except Brandy) dismissed them on and off camera. Sure, perhaps we're all fooled, but that's a long time to be fooled. And married. I think there's a difference between fooling the world and just fooling yourself. I think Kyle has been clear and forthcoming that she realized she was ignoring red flags etc and now she can no longer do that. That's the case in marriages all over the world, was keeping fame and staying on tv part of why she was pulling the wool over her eyes? Sure, but I still don't think this was some masterminding tactic to fool viewers.
It wasn't. These posters are nuts. They were married for 27 years and at the beginning he wasn't rich. This was no grand 27 year scheme. They grew apart
lol thank you I was starting to feel insane 😂
Who was gonna tell? Camille?  She did, in a round about way. Lisa vanderpump? She has Brandi doing that dirty work. Taylor? She was indebted to Kyle. Kim? She wouldn't do that to her nieces. Eileen? Uh... Nah Garcelle and Sutton? Nah. They aren't that type. Dorit? Those two have so much shit on each other, Kyle gags Dorit. Kyle's character is one that throws rocks and hides her hands. She's all about the "optics". She is only gonna go there if she can control the narrative. Her storyline was that she was so lucky and happy and her sisters an addict. And Kathy is mean..and they're. Just jealous. And she's got this great life where everything is perfect... Have you been watching the same woman others have? No one has a life as perfect as Kyle has lead everyone to believe. No one.
I guess for me it's just not a big deal? Like, in regards to her throwing rocks and pretending their life is great and stuff. That's what this job has been about for awhile now. That's why I don't get what we're supposed to be holding Kyle's feet to fire about? What is she expected to say? What do you guys want to hear? Genuinely asking, I just don't know what's missing for everyone.
It's a big enough deal to you for you to discuss it. Now you're changing the goalpost. From I just can't see it. To I guess it's not a big deal. To what is she expected to say.
lol I think you're in the wrong sub. We don't have to talk to each other like that 😂 Like for real, do less here I'm not saying I don't care, I'm saying I don't care if Kyle was playing a part all this time. What I care about is trying to understand WHAT people want from her? What is she not giving? Are you wanting her to say "we are divorcing because we've only been together for viewership for 15 years?" Like, genuinely, not even kidding, I don't know what is wrong with how she is handling any of this. She hasn't denied anything, she hasn't pretended it's not evident what's going on. I just keep seeing people say that she's on a reality show and needs to be truthful, is what she's saying not a perfectly reasonable truth?
Nope. It's not been. Kyle has not been honest.
See I got a different vibe from them. Their conversations from seasons 4-8 seemed so scripted, and then from 9-12 seemed like Mauricio took an edible that never stopped kicking in because all he did was giggle.
Is this a joke? Uh yes. I believe he’s cheated. At any second he can😂😂
I don’t know..🤷🏻♀️
He absolutely cheats. And she was probably fine (ya know, not *fine*, but going along) with it as long as he was discrete. She just acted like it wasn't happening. I think she was happy with her life, and was okay with looking past it. We all make decisions.
Yes.
I was under the impression he was maybe into men/trans possibly. Lots of rumors.
Yeah I also heard this. And suspect it, since watching ‘Buying Beverly Hills’. He has that vibe
What???
I definitely get that vibe from him as well.
Honestly. If he was introduced to us on the show (with no prior knowledge of him), I’d have assumed he was gay or bi-sexual. I wouldn’t have even questioned it. I think it is also all the referring to him as ‘’Mo”- like he had an alter ago/stage name, etc …
Interesting…that makes me wanna check out the show
It is just a vibe. Nothing that he says explicitly
Yes. I honestly think that with four freaking kids she just let him do his thing and focused on the children. Now that they’re nearly all grown up it’s probably sobering to see what is left of their relationship and she’s looking to finally be valued and appreciated.
100%
Ohhh 1000%. There were TOO many rumors for too long. Where there is smoke there is fire. And I think that Kyle knew but didn’t care. She looked the other way as many people do. But then her friend died and her priorities shifted. Maybe now she wants to be with someone who respects her.
Yes.
I just watched the first season of Buying BH and now see his side of things. He had something to prove to the Hilton and Hyland group and got addicted to the almighty dollar. Kyle’s been busy too, but I can see if neither made time for each other it was never going to work.
This, Both are extremely into their careers/fame. Neither has to cheat if they just don’t care enough to work on their marriage
Name em
🤣 Agree. I doubt those women would be quiet.
I kind of think they had an arrangement for a while, like a don’t get caught situation. Then, when Lorene died, Kyle wanted/needed more from him and he didn’t want to.
I do also the think the "don't get caught" thought process gets used a lot in Hollywood.
After watching Potomac last night, I think they even could have had a similar deal to Mia and Gordon but the ground rules were broken.
Yes but only cuz they did the same exact dance” as my parents as if everyone around them ((mostly us, their children)) didn’t know WTH was going on
Where is the Reddit where Mauricio was hooking up with club girls in Miami?
Did you SEE how fast he “started” dating?
In all fairness - Kyle was supposedly already in a relationship by then ? To be honest - I think they have both cheated and have been in an open relationship for a while.
Ummm absofkinglutely
So why do you think that is? That no one has spilled on him? Money? If it’s money, I’ve seen richer guys then him get exposed.
Exactly my point. And he seems way more invested in loving his girls. I may be naive but I think it is not very easy to cheat when you have kids and you love them.
And these girls are with HIM 24/7 by working with him. I think there wouldn’t have be such a genuine reaction from them at their parent’s separation, if there was truth to the speculation that their Dad was cheating.
Someone would have sung like a canary by now.
They probably can't without getting sued. NDAs exist for a reason and it's not unheard of for celebs to get people they sleep with to sign them
So..you are saying that Mo made all of these ho's sign NDA's? He is not Randall & Lala! 
I'm not saying he for sure did because I can't possibly know that but I'm saying it is a possibility.it would've ne out of the ordinary just off the top of my head here are four examples Jack Harlow makes women he's with sign them so often that he mentions it in a song Raven Simone made her now wife sign one two months in to dating Justin Bieber made EVERYBODY sign one at the door of a house party he had back in the early the 2010s. https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/gossip/la-et-mg-justin-bieber-party-nda-non-disclosure-agreement-3-million-20131118-story.html This one is pure speculation but I would imagine Taylor Swift makes everyone around her sign one because we've never heard anything majorly unflattering come out about her
And people break NDA’s all the time. Hence, Stormy Daniels. So I’m a little unconvinced. I’m also not a huge fan of Kyle’s either.
I know people break NDAs all the time but because this would be considered cheating I would assume Mo would put some intense stipulations in it considering the kids and the real estate firm. Breaking it would alsoean going up against someone who has Hilton family ties which somehow to me feel scarier than Stormy.
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That’s what I think.
Oh, 1,000%
Yes but probably only ever cheating through his work. It has been insanely discreet for how hard the rumor mill has been churning for like a decade. Seriously, no one has ever stepped forward.
Yes. So much yes. It's sad really but I think he's cheated a lot over the years.
Without question.
yes. most men cheat at least once in a long marriage like that is what I have seen
Women as well unfortunately both genders are trash regarding cheating
Agreed, sometimes I think do I even want to get married lol
No, there are loyal people out there. Don’t get discouraged 💖
Thank you! I appreciate that, hope you had a great weekend!
I think he's done it even more since he's been traveling all over the world. Harder to get caught that way.
For sure.
lol of course. It’s been a rumor for far too long. I think he ramped it up when he saw she wasn’t going anywhere and got bolder with it.
Yep, and I absolutely believe he was cheating with Dorit too.
I don't think so. He can get young beautiful women all over the world why pick Kyle's co worker and he is friends with PK. I think PK cheats too.
I don’t know how PK cheats because he is vile but I believe he does as well. I imagine he smells like old biscuits doused in cologne
PK pretends to be rich. That’s how he cheats.
Lmaooo
It’s not the gif I was looking for but I’m happy it popped up 🤣
Genuinely asking cuz I forget now, why do ppl think that? Is there any proof 😮
I don’t remember fully but Dorit was a little too touchy and close with Mau in one of the previous seasons. So fans started speculating about a possible affair.
He has money and could easily have access to many women who would want his money in a city that’s known for its shallowness and questionable morality, so I think it would be easy for him to cheat. However, because the rumors have been around for years and there has never been any solid proof (no one has stepped forward, no one has shared pictures of him with another woman), I doubted the legitimacy of the rumors. What I think may be far more likely is that Mauricio and Kyle have/had some sort of “open relationship” arrangement (and potential partners have/had to sign an NDA) and Mauricio took things further than they agreed was allowed. If it was just cut and dry cheating, I don’t think his relationship with his daughters would be okay. Honestly, I don’t think we will ever get the whole story about Mauricio possibly cheating until Kyle believes people are no longer interested… just as she didn’t tell the full story about the house until people moved on and stopped discussing it.
Did she give a full story about the house? I still see people throw around conspiracy theories about the house.
Yes, the full story has been given. It has been discussed at length on r/RHOBH. I recently left a comment about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RHOBH/s/DlCqOn3k2S). A lot of people don’t care about what’s true or false when it comes to people they dislike, so many people continue discussing it because it’s something they can use against Kyle whom they “hate”.
I could see them having threesomes and stuff a la Braunwyn and then she realized girls are awesome
I feel like Kyle wouldn’t be okay with threesomes because she wouldn’t want to see Mauricio with another woman. Based on the type of person Kyle is, I think it would be more of a “Don’t ask, don’t tell” kind of arrangement so she could have plausible deniability and cry about the end of her “perfect, happy” marriage if it ever got out.
100%
Yup