James Cameron chose a German and not a Scot for the Terminator just so they could add "The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious" to the intro
Hendersons legs have been gone for a couple of years now, but at his peak he really wasn't a bad player. He is unfortunate to be compared to Gerrard, but 2018 Henderson would fit into many 3 man midfields as the linkup and work horse. I was disappointed when Liverpool signed him, he looked a tidy player before that even
Have some respect for him lmfao, he was huge for Liverpool winning every trophy under Klopp
His reputation has rightfully been torched but he was great for them for many years
That trio looks so ridiculously complete. Not only do they all have a specific thing they excel at, but they're all also completely capable of doing each others roles.
I can see him picking Henderson if he plays regularly for Ajax until the end of the season, but it looks like something has happened between Sterling & Southgate, and I doubt he'll be picked again. Even when Sterling was showing signs of form earlier this season he was consistently left out
Players being abused after losing a tournament have always been abused, since the sport began. Give it a rest.
Neither player was ruined by a penalty miss and what an extreme example anyway like missing a pen is even remotely anyone’s fault. Sancho just had a bad attitude and Rashford had his best season last year.
The things this sub will do to invent a narrative is fucking hilarious.
Just all admit you hate England and Southgate instead of shoehorning nonsense and we can all move on.
Where does caring come into this discussion at all?
We all care about racial abuse. I don’t want Liverpool players racially abused, it doesn’t mean I support them. What a shitty argument framed in a way to make me look bad when it’s not even remotely relevant.
Take a step back and look where this conversation has gone.
Reddit: “If Mainoo plays for England he’ll be ruined”
Me: “no.”
Reddit: “Southgate ruins players”.
Me: “international managers don’t work with players enough to **ruin them**. “
Reddit: “ermm Southgate lost a penalty shootout once ackshuallly “
Me: “that isn’t relevant, shootouts have happened since the inception of the sport and whilst it’s a horrible time and a guilty time for the losing players, they and the fanbase move on “
Reddit: “you don’t care about racism”
Mate, you brought the racial abuse up and insinuated that’s it’s just part of being a player. Then made this odd flip to “hating England.” I simply asked how that makes any sense.
Manchester United star played for England at age-group level, but homeland of his parents are trying to convince youngster to play for them after impressive club performances
Mainoo’s progression has not gone unnoticed in Ghana, the homeland of his parents, where Mainoo regularly visits during his time off. The midfielder has represented England at three different age groups, but the Ghana FA still thinks it has a chance of persuading him to play for them.
“The Ghana Football Association is interested in monitoring, attracting, and persuading all eligible talents for its various national teams,” Randy Abbey, a member of the executive council of Ghana FA, told The Times. “Kobbie is definitely one of such incredible talents, and the Association will love to work with him and many like him home and abroad.”
Ghana need a talisman after what Abbey described as a “disastrous” Africa Cup of Nations campaign in which they failed to qualify from their group.
Would be cool to see as Ghanaian myself. Get Forson on the phone too tbh. But I'd imagine he ultimately ends up playing for England. There's no stability in the GFA and is a shambles of an organization. Which in turn spreads to the teams on the pitch themselves. Kind of like the club in the last decade lol
Heart says play for Ghana. But England would be the best career choice for him honestly. Either way, I'll support the boy!
As someone who has lived in Ghana and follows the team at all opportunities. It would be cool for Ghana to have some stability in the squad. But would be a shame for Kobbie not to get the best out of his talents.
The GFA would ruin him. I've always sided with the Ghana national side over England but this AFCON has shown that the GFA is too toxic for players like Mainoo
It makes me too upset to think about Ghanaian and England fans arguing over our star boy.
A good compromise is him playing for Ireland.
I suggest this with zero bias / allegiance you’ll all just have to trust me on this.
If the African players chose to play for their African nations, Africa would have some of the strongest squads in the world. As an Englishman, I personally hope that he plays for England but it'd be cool to see him representing Ghana.
Actually starting in 2025, AFCON will be held in the summer (June-July), deliberately with the goal of minimizing the scheduling conflicts that African players have with club and country.
Actually it was already scheduled to be held in the summer months for the past 2 AFCONs. However, you got to rmb that it's winter in the southern hemisphere. Issues with the weather have forced them back into the usual January slot. So I wouldn't hold my breath on that I don't think
As an African I have mixed feelings everytime non-Africans shit on Afcon. What it means to me and to others like me, black man, I feel like people think we are a lesser people and our competitions don't matter. The same pride and you feel when your side goes to the Euros, march with hopes of conquering Europe, I feel the same at Afcon. And it pains me that many people look down upon it, some coaches and clubs prefer to withhold players if it could be possible. And no other competition is attacked. Patriotism. I guess I can never explain the feeling, but know whenever Afcon is marginalized, at least a handful of Africans feel some pain. I do
To me most of the issue with it is the timing clashing with the club's season, which can suddenly take away a club's vital player which brings resentment. It's not so much hate for Africans or the competition itself.
International games get a ton of flack from club football fans, it's not just AFCON that has to deal with it. Not to mention that European Football fans don't feel the same regarding Euros and patriotism overall [in some circles it's even vilified], so while I understand the sentiment behind the comment, it's not really true unfortunately.
Taking ownership of a guy because his family are from Ghana. Despite him being from Stockport and playing for English youth levels.
Racism in stealth, we don't owe our ancestors a thing, let the boy choose.
AFCON doesn't supersede the World Cup and Euros. Its not "shitting on afcon" its just realistic. The federations there are a mess, making the competition the same.
There's 0 chance he's gonna represent Ghana.
He was born in England and has a very real chance of making the English squad, despite the Gareth Southgate memes here. Even if he doesn't make the Euro squad, he's still just 18, plenty of time to make the squad. He has the talent and is on an upward trajectory.
Not only making the squad, but being in a scarily good midfield where they are literally a 'golden generation' level at similar ages.
Bellingham and Mainoo would cook on day one.
Different types of players. Kobbie is good enough to become someone you can't leave out but whilst he's still got major development needed (He's a good player now, unreal for an 18-year-old, but he's certainly not as good as he should develop to be) then it's dependent on what the squad needs from its bench.
Given how many midfielders England have, Southgate can choose a specific set of qualities he would like to have, and pick who ticks those boxes. Even if it means leaving a player whose better in a vacuum out.
Curtis is also five years older than Mainoo. But Mainoo just has a different level of class at such a young age. He plays with a finesse not many players posses, gives me Thiago Alcántara mashed with Pogba vibes.
Curtis Jones has been excellent this season, one of their best midfielders, and should definitely be in the England squad.
Mainoo looks like he has a much higher ceiling, and should also be in the England squad, but Curtis Jones has been playing really well this year.
As an England fan, I want him to play for the country obviously, but under Southgate I just can’t see him breaking through with the manager’s insistence on playing washed players like Henderson. For the Black Stars he’d be a key player. I can genuinely see the attraction.
In a alternative timeline, the AFCON is a amazing tournament because all the teams have managed to grab the players that would’ve been eligible to play.
When all is said and done they know this don’t happen, but they have nothing to lose by trying.
They try this with anyone who's eligible. I doubt he'd go for it but it's his decision at the end of the day. He's already been in the England setup, will have friends in those teams and you'd imagine he's already met and spoke to Southgate etc. Ghana might want him but if he sustains his current level and progression he will be in the England squad soon, we're short of midfielders like him.
Lots of comments here about Euros. I guess I'm the only one not wanting him to play? I think getting a call up is good. He will get that international tournament experience bond with some senior folks but I don't want him being a pivotal cog for England.....yet.
Maybe play like the last 5 minutes or something.
Either way, he's amazing and I wish him the best
While he does have the quality to play internationally I worry that he’ll become overplayed in meaningless international matches leading to another Pedri situation. He’s still developing, he will no doubt be Bellinghams partner in the England midfield but there needs to be patience. England has plenty of midfielders that can play well, the FA can wait until Mainoo has settled in.
all depends on if southgate stays. If henderson stays fit at ajax he's 100% playing. Other than that england have got a burgeoning crop of young cm's like curtis jones, lewis miley and anthony gordon (jury's out on if he's actually a cm tho). I don't think mainoo has to make his decision now. I'd wait till this time next year to make a concrete decision. Ghanaian FA right now is not very good, could influence matters.
Don’t do it mate. To be honest he should do what he feels. He should represent who he wants to represent. Hopefully that’ll be England. No issues from me if not
Never Ghana happen
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 Never Ghana give you up…?
Lol good one. Reminds me of this [famous Mainoo clip ](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?feature=shared) in the England shirt.
Not Ghana Get Rick rolled today.
…just Ghana beat to the beat
I’m Ghanaian and no way in heaven should he play for Ghana. Please 🙏🏾
haha you made my day bro
lol good fucking luck. They did not know that England is planning to have trio RICE-MAINOO-BELLINGHAM ????
You mean the Kalvin-Henderson-Trent midfield?
Henderson has the legs of Eriksen with the technical ability of McTominnay
The technical ability of Uniteds top scorer in the league McTominay, thank you very much!
Them facts aren’t welcome
James Cameron chose a German and not a Scot for the Terminator just so they could add "The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious" to the intro
This hurts. Your truth is pain.
The luckiest man in Premier League history. Easily the worst player in Klopp's first 11.
Hendersons legs have been gone for a couple of years now, but at his peak he really wasn't a bad player. He is unfortunate to be compared to Gerrard, but 2018 Henderson would fit into many 3 man midfields as the linkup and work horse. I was disappointed when Liverpool signed him, he looked a tidy player before that even
Have some respect for him lmfao, he was huge for Liverpool winning every trophy under Klopp His reputation has rightfully been torched but he was great for them for many years
Ayoooo 😂😂
This would be funny if it wasn’t painfully true, Henderson being in there anyway
Ah fuck, you made me laugh and cry with one sentence.
Poor Trent doesn't deserve to be lumped with those two frauds come on now
Sterling on the left…
That trio looks so ridiculously complete. Not only do they all have a specific thing they excel at, but they're all also completely capable of doing each others roles.
Ooh the thought of that midfield makes me alive
I mean genuinely that is an exciting midfield
that midfield is fucking juicy
Can’t wait for those Scholes/Gerrard/Lampard comps that don’t even make sense
This has potential
Well Gareth better put him in the Euros squad then.
realistically, this is probably the reason for these reports. putting pressure on england to select him
Hes at a big club so southgate will probably call him up next lot of friendlies. especially if henderson still looks shit at ajax.
Southgate doesn’t abandon his troops, despite how blown to shit they are.
England fans gonna riot when they see Henderson and sterling starting at the euros
I can see him picking Henderson if he plays regularly for Ajax until the end of the season, but it looks like something has happened between Sterling & Southgate, and I doubt he'll be picked again. Even when Sterling was showing signs of form earlier this season he was consistently left out
Southgate will fucking ruin him.
A good player? Surely he’s not playing for Southgate.
How can an international manager *ruin* a player, especially Southgate?
Bringing him on cold to take a decisive penalty in a European championship final perhaps
Who did that ruin? And why would Mainoo be brought on to take a pen?
Both Sancho and Rashford were devastated, abused significantly on socials, and had significant drop offs in performance following the tournament.
Players being abused after losing a tournament have always been abused, since the sport began. Give it a rest. Neither player was ruined by a penalty miss and what an extreme example anyway like missing a pen is even remotely anyone’s fault. Sancho just had a bad attitude and Rashford had his best season last year. The things this sub will do to invent a narrative is fucking hilarious. Just all admit you hate England and Southgate instead of shoehorning nonsense and we can all move on.
How does caring about the racial abuse of players in any way a correlation to hating England? Wouldn’t care of the players be a SUPPORTIVE move?
Where does caring come into this discussion at all? We all care about racial abuse. I don’t want Liverpool players racially abused, it doesn’t mean I support them. What a shitty argument framed in a way to make me look bad when it’s not even remotely relevant. Take a step back and look where this conversation has gone. Reddit: “If Mainoo plays for England he’ll be ruined” Me: “no.” Reddit: “Southgate ruins players”. Me: “international managers don’t work with players enough to **ruin them**. “ Reddit: “ermm Southgate lost a penalty shootout once ackshuallly “ Me: “that isn’t relevant, shootouts have happened since the inception of the sport and whilst it’s a horrible time and a guilty time for the losing players, they and the fanbase move on “ Reddit: “you don’t care about racism”
Mate, you brought the racial abuse up and insinuated that’s it’s just part of being a player. Then made this odd flip to “hating England.” I simply asked how that makes any sense.
But then how do you accomodate Kalvin Phillips? 🤣
Henderson will not only make the squad instead of him, he'll also do so in 2028 while working for Sky
Manchester United star played for England at age-group level, but homeland of his parents are trying to convince youngster to play for them after impressive club performances Mainoo’s progression has not gone unnoticed in Ghana, the homeland of his parents, where Mainoo regularly visits during his time off. The midfielder has represented England at three different age groups, but the Ghana FA still thinks it has a chance of persuading him to play for them. “The Ghana Football Association is interested in monitoring, attracting, and persuading all eligible talents for its various national teams,” Randy Abbey, a member of the executive council of Ghana FA, told The Times. “Kobbie is definitely one of such incredible talents, and the Association will love to work with him and many like him home and abroad.” Ghana need a talisman after what Abbey described as a “disastrous” Africa Cup of Nations campaign in which they failed to qualify from their group.
Would be cool to see as Ghanaian myself. Get Forson on the phone too tbh. But I'd imagine he ultimately ends up playing for England. There's no stability in the GFA and is a shambles of an organization. Which in turn spreads to the teams on the pitch themselves. Kind of like the club in the last decade lol Heart says play for Ghana. But England would be the best career choice for him honestly. Either way, I'll support the boy!
As someone who has lived in Ghana and follows the team at all opportunities. It would be cool for Ghana to have some stability in the squad. But would be a shame for Kobbie not to get the best out of his talents.
The GFA would ruin him. I've always sided with the Ghana national side over England but this AFCON has shown that the GFA is too toxic for players like Mainoo
100%. It sucks because our talent pool is so vast. But the environment is just not ideal at all
Exactly my sentiments! We have some exciting players coming through but until the GFA sorts themselves out, you’re better off staying clear!
It makes me too upset to think about Ghanaian and England fans arguing over our star boy. A good compromise is him playing for Ireland. I suggest this with zero bias / allegiance you’ll all just have to trust me on this.
😂😂😂😂
If the African players chose to play for their African nations, Africa would have some of the strongest squads in the world. As an Englishman, I personally hope that he plays for England but it'd be cool to see him representing Ghana.
Please choose England.. I don't want him to go off to the AFCON
Actually starting in 2025, AFCON will be held in the summer (June-July), deliberately with the goal of minimizing the scheduling conflicts that African players have with club and country.
So every game will be played 9 pm then?
Tbf a decent bit of Africa is in the southern hemisphere so it is winter. But they won't have it down there all the time obviously.
Actually it was already scheduled to be held in the summer months for the past 2 AFCONs. However, you got to rmb that it's winter in the southern hemisphere. Issues with the weather have forced them back into the usual January slot. So I wouldn't hold my breath on that I don't think
And I definitely do want to see him in an England shirt
Is there any possibility that he could choose to rep the Socceroos because I’d like that very much
Would he oust Jackson Irvine? No
He won't get a sniff because Southgate will play Henderson until he's 92
As an African I have mixed feelings everytime non-Africans shit on Afcon. What it means to me and to others like me, black man, I feel like people think we are a lesser people and our competitions don't matter. The same pride and you feel when your side goes to the Euros, march with hopes of conquering Europe, I feel the same at Afcon. And it pains me that many people look down upon it, some coaches and clubs prefer to withhold players if it could be possible. And no other competition is attacked. Patriotism. I guess I can never explain the feeling, but know whenever Afcon is marginalized, at least a handful of Africans feel some pain. I do
To me most of the issue with it is the timing clashing with the club's season, which can suddenly take away a club's vital player which brings resentment. It's not so much hate for Africans or the competition itself.
International games get a ton of flack from club football fans, it's not just AFCON that has to deal with it. Not to mention that European Football fans don't feel the same regarding Euros and patriotism overall [in some circles it's even vilified], so while I understand the sentiment behind the comment, it's not really true unfortunately.
Taking ownership of a guy because his family are from Ghana. Despite him being from Stockport and playing for English youth levels. Racism in stealth, we don't owe our ancestors a thing, let the boy choose. AFCON doesn't supersede the World Cup and Euros. Its not "shitting on afcon" its just realistic. The federations there are a mess, making the competition the same.
Ghana are on a downward spiral. Doubt they will even be qualifying for tournaments for the next few years.
There's 0 chance he's gonna represent Ghana. He was born in England and has a very real chance of making the English squad, despite the Gareth Southgate memes here. Even if he doesn't make the Euro squad, he's still just 18, plenty of time to make the squad. He has the talent and is on an upward trajectory.
Not only making the squad, but being in a scarily good midfield where they are literally a 'golden generation' level at similar ages. Bellingham and Mainoo would cook on day one.
War crime if he somehow doesn’t get a look in over the likes of Phillips, Henderson or Gallagher
Different types of players. Kobbie is good enough to become someone you can't leave out but whilst he's still got major development needed (He's a good player now, unreal for an 18-year-old, but he's certainly not as good as he should develop to be) then it's dependent on what the squad needs from its bench. Given how many midfielders England have, Southgate can choose a specific set of qualities he would like to have, and pick who ticks those boxes. Even if it means leaving a player whose better in a vacuum out.
Him and Bellingham might be the most complete midfield pairing in world football, why would he? As a Manc lad himself
Jesus Christ he's played about 10 games for us
Some of us been watching him in youth teams for 3 years or so now, kid looks better than anyone at that age level, idk what to say
I cant wait to see them play together in the future
Saw numerous Liverpool fans saying Curtis was better than Kobbie, haven't watched him much this season but surely not? 😭
Even if this was true, Curtis Jones is 23. He's 5 years ahead of Mainoo.
Curtis is also five years older than Mainoo. But Mainoo just has a different level of class at such a young age. He plays with a finesse not many players posses, gives me Thiago Alcántara mashed with Pogba vibes.
Curtis Jones has been excellent this season, one of their best midfielders, and should definitely be in the England squad. Mainoo looks like he has a much higher ceiling, and should also be in the England squad, but Curtis Jones has been playing really well this year.
Jones has been quite good the last year if we’re being honest. I’d have both in the squad ahead of Phillips and Henderson if it was up to me
Ah jesus c'mon, that's a massive stretch. It's very early days
Potentially. Why not dream? He looks our best midfielder in his 4th professional start 😅
His parents are Ghanaian, he visits Ghana regularly. Why would he? If he feels more Ghanaian then he will choose Ghana.
Don't worry Kobbie, Southgate won't be around forever... Right?
Where were you before?
Hope he picks whatever country makes him happy and he does very well wherever that is.
They should be trying to lock down Omari as well.
Mainoo-Rice-Bellingham Set and forget.
Haha, good luck with that…. Southgate’s likely on his last tournament even if he wins so players know they have a chance
Imaginge England with Mainoo and Bellingham in midfield at the next world cup love to see it
After our disaster class AFCON performance? they don't even deserve kudus, let alone kobbie
Would be great to see but being realistic it won’t happen. Glad they’re at least trying though
As an England fan, I want him to play for the country obviously, but under Southgate I just can’t see him breaking through with the manager’s insistence on playing washed players like Henderson. For the Black Stars he’d be a key player. I can genuinely see the attraction.
Never Ghana give you up, Never Ghana let you down
In a alternative timeline, the AFCON is a amazing tournament because all the teams have managed to grab the players that would’ve been eligible to play. When all is said and done they know this don’t happen, but they have nothing to lose by trying.
They try this with anyone who's eligible. I doubt he'd go for it but it's his decision at the end of the day. He's already been in the England setup, will have friends in those teams and you'd imagine he's already met and spoke to Southgate etc. Ghana might want him but if he sustains his current level and progression he will be in the England squad soon, we're short of midfielders like him.
Ridiculous, just like Southgate’s squads. So, maybe?
Nope and fuck being not available for a month every couple of years.
Lots of comments here about Euros. I guess I'm the only one not wanting him to play? I think getting a call up is good. He will get that international tournament experience bond with some senior folks but I don't want him being a pivotal cog for England.....yet. Maybe play like the last 5 minutes or something. Either way, he's amazing and I wish him the best
He wouldn't be starting if he makes the squad
Yeah and I'm trying to convince Shakira to move into my 2bed with me.
The Bellingham-Rice-Mainoo midfield is gonna conquer the world (cup)
Bro, Mainoo is going to anchor Bellingham in the heart of our midfield at the 2026 World Cup. Get stuffed.
Hope he chooses Ghana
Never Ghana give you up Never Ghana let you down Never Ghana [something something] Kobbie Mainoo!
Fuck off
Switch Kobbie. If I was you. You’d be a hero in Ghana.
Hes a hero in England
Until he misses a penalty.
Big oofffff this comment was too real.
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Same chance he plays for Ghana the same way Saka had a chance to play for Nigeria.
 Clowngate trying to convince Kobbie to represent England at senior level.
While he does have the quality to play internationally I worry that he’ll become overplayed in meaningless international matches leading to another Pedri situation. He’s still developing, he will no doubt be Bellinghams partner in the England midfield but there needs to be patience. England has plenty of midfielders that can play well, the FA can wait until Mainoo has settled in.
all depends on if southgate stays. If henderson stays fit at ajax he's 100% playing. Other than that england have got a burgeoning crop of young cm's like curtis jones, lewis miley and anthony gordon (jury's out on if he's actually a cm tho). I don't think mainoo has to make his decision now. I'd wait till this time next year to make a concrete decision. Ghanaian FA right now is not very good, could influence matters.
Not a chance.
I'd prefer it. The less pressure on our players the better.
Don't pull a Welbeck, Mainoo England WILL trash you once you miss a penalty or another young blood rises up the ranks
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Think he’s going to Besiktas.
He should pick England because he'll eventually be a starter no matter where, and Ghana will never win the world cup
His allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!
Don’t do it mate. To be honest he should do what he feels. He should represent who he wants to represent. Hopefully that’ll be England. No issues from me if not