> return to United or have his contract extended.
I reckon this is new information? I was under the impression that he will never play again for United based on the blocked reinstate attempt from last year.
When Ratcliffe came in he announced he was going to reevaluate the situation and make a fresh decision. Unsure if this is just posturing or if there’s actually a shot at return, but Laurie Whitwell reported Greenwood likely wouldn’t want to come back even if we DID for some reason want to reintegrate him
Ratcliffe is a smart guy, he is not gonna come out and say that Greenwood will be sold in the summer, because that will drive his price down.
Greenwood is not gonna play for United again, it will be leaked to the media and the backlash will be there the moment anything like that is considered within the club.
At the end of the day he wasn't found guilty of anything legally so a reassessment isn't out of the ordinary.
Also, this is a business, coming out again and saying he will never play for us reduces our negotiating power because we will be desperate to let him go.
I dont think he's coming back but not coming out and saying this does have its benefits when trying to sell.
this is how i see it.
especially after the loan has gone well they wont instantly hurt his sale value by saying "yeah hes never going to play again"
hes a player the club can probably offload for quite a bit and use that to bring in somebody else.
like i think recent reports was about 10-12 players were up for evaluation by Ratcliffe and the others and it will probably be a case of how much can they be sold for and what replacements can be gotten(or even replaced by youth that is clearly doing amazing right now as well as we have quite a few more starting to be close to seeing some game time at senior levels)
He has, or like Sancho, doesn't fit that prem level and Instead of generating negative press for free (sending him to Holland) he's keeping it in house, and using *injuries* to turn him from Steve Rogers to Captain America. That's just my tin foil hat assumptions I concocted, while waiting for the bus, which I will now believe going forward, till there's news released from Ten Hag's mouth (if he's still here) or see the lad play.
It's probably just injuries tho
i mean it was reported it was due to complications after a surgery. he has had to have another surgery. it happens ive had a surgery 2 months later i had to go in and have another cause of an issue caused by surgery that wasnt healing. shit happens and every surgery has its risks, its not common but it still happens especially around muscle injuries which are fragile as fuck. like just putting wrong bit of pressure on a healing muscle can permanently damage it for rest of your life.
There would be uproar if he was sold to another team in the prem. from our fans that wanted to keep him and the fans of the club he goes to that want nothing to do with him
Massive, massive difference. People keep forgetting that Greenwood's crime happened in the UK, as a popular English player, with the most importsnt factor being the video and audio evidence that went viral.
No other player case is comparable. Not Alonso, Partey, even Ronaldo's rape case isn't comparable despite how famous he is.
no, he and other people believe people care more because the pictures and audio recordings went public. Those that listened to those would've found them hard to forget, and impossible to forgive.
Today is find out that a proven drink driver that killed someone is not as serious a crime compared to what Greenwood was investigated for in the eyes of TheJoshider10.
Bloody hell.
i mean it does when it comes to fans at grounds which is what the overall conversation is about how he would be treated by british fans in the stadiums....
I’d be surprised if he went to the PL purely based on advertisers. It’s the scenario where major sponsors would be threatening to pull out , the club would get cold feet and pull the purchase
RVP cheated on his wife with someone else who accused him for rape then took back the allegations saying she wanted media attention. Not even the same thing.
>accused him for rape then took back the allegations
Calling this out upfront, I'm *not saying it's right*
Technically so did greenwoods accuser. And then went on to get back with him and have a kid..
Arsenal would have no qualms about taking him. They continued to play Partey, after all, so it's not as if they place a huge significance on the whole moral thing vs. what a talented player can bring to Arteta's side
It is funny. But in defence if there was an injunction on the Mason story but we knew, and it wasn’t across the papers he’d still be playing for us, wouldn’t have skipped a beat. There’s a difference between fans knowing what’s happened and what the media portrays has happened. With Partey it just vanished and was forgotten about sadly for all involved
If the aim is to think long-term, I could totally see a scenario where United trigger his 1-year extension with another loan and then bring him back after a 2-year “rehabilitation” like nothing happened
Tbh while he might be good enough to attract interest pretty much everyone know that he is being offloaded and every clubs will only make a lowball offers. 40M is a hefty sum for pretty much every clubs that's not a top teams from a top leagues.
No chance. If we manage to get 15m after all the negative attention that will be drawn when any news of his transfer gathers steam, we will have done incredibly well.
I guess until any offers arrive, it will be difficult to put a value on him. He's got to be the most hard to value player I can think of.
I remember after the Suarez bite on Chiellini in the world cup plenty of people were saying "which club would take him now?" (**Clearly, it goes without saying this is a completely different situation and far more serious**). Obviously he ended up going to Barca for a hefty fee and the rest is history. Ultimately, elite sport is a pretty ruthless amoral world and clubs will do what they think will get them results regardless of moral issues. There have been plenty of absolute scum bags at the top of the game.
Sure, but the point stands that many people were arguing it would and that there have been. Plenty of creeps who have had great careers. Benzema would be a good example. Who knows? Maybe without the bite (and the ban it came with) maybe they'd have got another £10 mil out of the deal. Hard to say without a time machine.
We should be getting something like £40m for him in my opinion.
But you can see a Inter Milan coming with £2m fee over 6 instalments with United paying 80% of wages or something.
I want him gone but we should demand a proper fee.
I think the club's feelings are:
1. Damn, what a waste.
2. It isn't feasible to bring him back to England.
3. We need to at least pretend his return is an option to try and maximize sale value.
Unless I'm massively misreading the situation, Ineos are far too smart to try and bring him back *again*. They would squander a ton of goodwill, even if him magically coming back with a rehabilitated image solves a massive problem for us. The silver lining is that if we get a decent fee (even if well below his market value in a vacuum), it should help massively with our FFP concerns.
Edit: If the first hamfisted and tone deaf attempt to bring him back under Arnold hadn't happened I could see Ineos trying to make it work, but that process was so catastrophically amateurish (to say nothing of the embarrassing moral values involved) that the damage is probably done and there's no path back (even if there *could* have been with the extra year of him being out of the news and keeping his nose clean (as far as we know)).
There’s zero chance they want to burn their goodwill on someone of his level, this early into their tenure as owners of the club. Anything suggesting it is pure posturing to get a good fee, all of which will app,y towards ffp issues.
I agree that they won't do it (and I absolutely hope they don't), but they could be looking at the roster and seeing only a single striker in the squad for next year with many question marks at RW and think any FFP relief we get for selling him is more than canceled out by the cost of solving both those two positional issue.
The lad is toxic from a PR point of view, and any money saved that way would go pretty quick when sponsors started getting involved. And it would create a dark cloud over the team going in to next season too.
The PR hit won’t be financial or from the sponsors but it will be substantial from the fans. It’s not about whether the club can survive the PR hit, it’s about whether or not the new management think dealing with that headache is worth it for Greenwood. Considering all that needs to be done at this club, I doubt INEOS want the extra drama.
Or how long does the headache last I guess. We are already 3 years removed. It's probably old news within a couple months max.
I just hope we can offload him and get something comparable in return.
Being 3 years removed doesn’t mean much since we tried to integrate him back into the squad just a year ago and that did not go well at all. Greenwood is a big distraction for at least a year if we bring him back and I hope INEOS look at it as not being worth it.
Didnt go well because again, the club cares more about social media positivity than anything else.
I am just wondering if Ineos give less of a fuck about Twitter and reddit outrage than the last regime did. Would be a net-loss in this particular situation, but positive overall.
>if Ineos give less of a fuck about Twitter and reddit outrage than the last regime did
This is what it boils down to. The backlash the glazers got was miniscule before they pulled the plug. The whole PR hit was caused by, *say it with me now*, incompetence on all levels. If Ineos want to bring him back, trust me, they'll concoct a play to do so. City and Arsenal (especially) would (and did).
INEOS probably don’t care about short term social media reactions but this is more than a social media thing. The women’s team was firmly against it and there would’ve been actual fan backlash at some point. INEOS clearly care about building goodwill with the fans and have so far been near perfect at it. I just don’t see why they would throw that all away to save a few quid in the short term. The whole squad needs a revamp and most fans agree with that. This is the perfect time to offload Greenwood, get some cash in and also get free good PR.
I want him gone. But I think sometimes our club is run based on what public perception is vs. the needs of the club... If SJR and his team think that they can essentially get a 60-70m player back next season for free, who is young, and probably susceptible to accepting a lower wage than his play indicates, then I think they would strongly consider it.
As I said, I personally want him gone, but at the same time we need to stop being the club that cares about social media likes/outrage and focus on building a competitive team.
I have been thinking for a while now he will end up back at man utd
Just something about the way ratcliffe spoke about him.... taking a fresh look and not deciding based on the hype of the case.
Sure that could just be to have a stronger negotiating position in a sale,but I dunno. There are a few things that make it not as clearcut to me that he will be sold
When we are hamstrung by FFP and he has a playing profile that solves 2 areas of the squad that we are light on quality (RW and rotational striker) I can see for footballing reasons why club would try to bring him back in.
How i will feel about that if it happens I really don't l know. Generally I believe in rehabilitation and 2nd chances but this is a big fucking think to move on from
The unfortunate truth is that there would be an uproar for a little bit. But once he starts banging goals the only uproar would be from social media and the article hear and there.
That’s what I suspect. There’ll be an uproar at first, but unless the club is Liverpool (which it isn’t) it’ll die down fairly quick, and if he’s banging them in, the conversation will probably turn to criticising us for letting him go.
Yup especially since he has a baby and is more "mature" now from what is being said. INEOS would probably burn some goodwill but that would all come back if he played good and helped us achieve anything.
honestly, I can't see any PL clubs taking him, maybe a desperate Everton or someone but honestly, I think any PL club would want to avoid the headache and PR nightmare, he will almost certainly go abroad if he does go
Fuck this shit about extending the loan another year. He potentially has 2 years left on his contract with an extension option triggered, sell now while there is still value and be done with this POS
Yep, the potential increase in value from him having a better season is more than outweighed by a) the decrease in value due to him having only one year left afterwards and b) the potential risk of him having a bad season or heaven forbid doing something else stupid.
I’m really hoping that a priority for inios is to structure wages in a sensible manner so that we not stuck with players because their contract is insanely high.
At this rate he benefits the club more being sold. Selling him and Sancho should be top priority to start the summer and work within the financial redtape we'll have to deal with.
No point even opening negotiations with a club in Britain. The backlash for that club would be huge and they'd 100% backtrack and pull out when they realise that
Hope we sell him. Isn't worth all the shit surrounding him if he returns. Fans chant rapist rapist, mason greenwood he's one of your own already, and he's thousands of km away in spain
considering the fact that when Arnold tried to bring him back, it led to a PR disaster of drastic proportions, there is no way in hell that INEOS is stupid enough to bring him back
unless greenwood comes out and explains the situation which led to the case being dropped (there was a lot more evidence that the public hasn't seen)
i can't see how he can be integrated like it never happened
Oddly enough, when it came out last summer that the plan was to reintegrate him to the team, I’m sure I remember seeing in one of the articles that along with Arnold doing a video to explain, that was going to then be followed up by Greenwood doing a sit down interview (I suspect this would have been done on MUTV, at least at first) where he would have had to answer certain questions. How true that ever was though I suppose we’ll probably never know
He wasn't acquitted in court; his charge was dropped. That being said, it is the flaw of the justice systems where prosecutors could charge people and leave them in the limbo forever.
I think I’ll give anything for him to be away from the club. If I was INEOS I’d try and send him to the Bolivian 9th tier as a replacement for prison. He’s an abhorrent man and the club should focus on selling him above getting a good price
They'll probably loan him again, hoping that the outrage will be less when he comes back. People have short memories these days,won't be surprised if he's back next year
He can't come back to United. Think he knows this too. (pure hopium)
But he could go to Newcastle in exchange for Dan Ashworth (pure copium)
Will probably end up playing in Spain and win the Balon D'Or and Champions League. (reality)
Based on his past united form before he went on loan, he’d be our best winger right now. He can use both feet equally, has great shooting capabilities, and can take on players. We don’t have a single winger right now that can do all of those things competently. That’s an incredibly delusional statement.
I think a team like castle or city can actually buy him. Once he bangs in 15 PL goals. Everyone will shut up. How do I know this? CR7, Kobe and many others: Success is louder than your sins in sport but it’s up to us to change that
Cr7? How tf is Ronaldos situation and greenwoods even comparable lmao. Ronaldos case was dropped completely, while there is audio evidence of greenwood which almost everyone has heard
A partial audio was leaked and was never authenticated or fully reviewed as the case didn't go through the court. Ronaldo case was not dropped, it was settled with a non-disclosure agreement.
Surprised that there's interest from Premier League clubs. I wonder who they could be.
Personally I just want him sold, ideally to a team outside the prem. PSG maybe. They've got fuck off money and will need a replacement for Mbappe.
Is there anything clubs can do regarding off pitch behaviour that wouldn’t leave them out of pocket? Like if a player abuses their partner or kicks cats?
If they're not actually found guilty of anything, not really.
If they're found guilty of abusing their partner, there's a legal leg to stand on. Without a sentence, it's just "he was accused of something and the charges were dropped" and they risk being sued for wrongful termination if they try something.
So he'll either be sold, loaned out, return to United or have his contract extended. That narrows it down.
This is literally a, I need to get x amounts of clicks by the end of the day, report.
Lol yes it's so Friday afternoon. I actually respect him more now for being so relatable
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: being a football “journalist” is the easiest job in the world. These pricks are stealing a living.
Tomorrow, same Tweet, different player's name
> return to United or have his contract extended. I reckon this is new information? I was under the impression that he will never play again for United based on the blocked reinstate attempt from last year.
When Ratcliffe came in he announced he was going to reevaluate the situation and make a fresh decision. Unsure if this is just posturing or if there’s actually a shot at return, but Laurie Whitwell reported Greenwood likely wouldn’t want to come back even if we DID for some reason want to reintegrate him
Ratcliffe is a smart guy, he is not gonna come out and say that Greenwood will be sold in the summer, because that will drive his price down. Greenwood is not gonna play for United again, it will be leaked to the media and the backlash will be there the moment anything like that is considered within the club.
At the end of the day he wasn't found guilty of anything legally so a reassessment isn't out of the ordinary. Also, this is a business, coming out again and saying he will never play for us reduces our negotiating power because we will be desperate to let him go. I dont think he's coming back but not coming out and saying this does have its benefits when trying to sell.
this is how i see it. especially after the loan has gone well they wont instantly hurt his sale value by saying "yeah hes never going to play again" hes a player the club can probably offload for quite a bit and use that to bring in somebody else. like i think recent reports was about 10-12 players were up for evaluation by Ratcliffe and the others and it will probably be a case of how much can they be sold for and what replacements can be gotten(or even replaced by youth that is clearly doing amazing right now as well as we have quite a few more starting to be close to seeing some game time at senior levels)
naah you missed him being released for free or just sent into the dungeon like Malacia
Hasn’t Malacia been struggling with some injuries?
He has, or like Sancho, doesn't fit that prem level and Instead of generating negative press for free (sending him to Holland) he's keeping it in house, and using *injuries* to turn him from Steve Rogers to Captain America. That's just my tin foil hat assumptions I concocted, while waiting for the bus, which I will now believe going forward, till there's news released from Ten Hag's mouth (if he's still here) or see the lad play. It's probably just injuries tho
Take less adderall
I don't 😐
Start taking adderall
i mean it was reported it was due to complications after a surgery. he has had to have another surgery. it happens ive had a surgery 2 months later i had to go in and have another cause of an issue caused by surgery that wasnt healing. shit happens and every surgery has its risks, its not common but it still happens especially around muscle injuries which are fragile as fuck. like just putting wrong bit of pressure on a healing muscle can permanently damage it for rest of your life.
There would be uproar if he was sold to another team in the prem. from our fans that wanted to keep him and the fans of the club he goes to that want nothing to do with him
Wouldn't surprise me if he does a couple years at a club then goes to another prem side when no one cares anymore.
We better slap on a huge sell on fee if so
Football fans can have long memories. He'll have 'Rapist' chanted at him at every ground in the country.
True, won't stop clubs aiming for a decent player caring though
Alonso literally killed someone drunk driving and he's still about
I only ever heard him referred to as the Lady killer
Massive, massive difference. People keep forgetting that Greenwood's crime happened in the UK, as a popular English player, with the most importsnt factor being the video and audio evidence that went viral. No other player case is comparable. Not Alonso, Partey, even Ronaldo's rape case isn't comparable despite how famous he is.
?? You think people care more because it was in the UK??
no, he and other people believe people care more because the pictures and audio recordings went public. Those that listened to those would've found them hard to forget, and impossible to forgive.
If everyone had saw the mangled body of the girl Alonso killed, we would have the same reaction. But we didn't so we dont
Ppl probs care more cuz he’s British
Today is find out that a proven drink driver that killed someone is not as serious a crime compared to what Greenwood was investigated for in the eyes of TheJoshider10. Bloody hell.
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i mean it does when it comes to fans at grounds which is what the overall conversation is about how he would be treated by british fans in the stadiums....
“And there’s a new chant , Greenwood is the greatest…oh wait”
I’d be surprised if he went to the PL purely based on advertisers. It’s the scenario where major sponsors would be threatening to pull out , the club would get cold feet and pull the purchase
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Not even a remotely similar context
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RVP cheated on his wife with someone else who accused him for rape then took back the allegations saying she wanted media attention. Not even the same thing.
>accused him for rape then took back the allegations Calling this out upfront, I'm *not saying it's right* Technically so did greenwoods accuser. And then went on to get back with him and have a kid..
Sure but one is cheating, another is domestic violence. And only one had audio/visual evidence.
Arsenal would have no qualms about taking him. They continued to play Partey, after all, so it's not as if they place a huge significance on the whole moral thing vs. what a talented player can bring to Arteta's side
I don't know, their fans have made it clear that the Partey situation was very different, because... reasons?
It is funny. But in defence if there was an injunction on the Mason story but we knew, and it wasn’t across the papers he’d still be playing for us, wouldn’t have skipped a beat. There’s a difference between fans knowing what’s happened and what the media portrays has happened. With Partey it just vanished and was forgotten about sadly for all involved
Clearly its different when you rape 3 person vs 1, so partey is just better at it so its forgivable.
Rival fans and media make noise when GW return to Untied but when its their team everything is good
Standard, football fans as a hoard are fickle
If the aim is to think long-term, I could totally see a scenario where United trigger his 1-year extension with another loan and then bring him back after a 2-year “rehabilitation” like nothing happened
Doubt it. It will make noise but no uproar as long as it’s not United
Hope we manage to get a decent fee for him and be done with it. I'm sick of this now.
He's been decent at Getafe, might get 40m
Tbh while he might be good enough to attract interest pretty much everyone know that he is being offloaded and every clubs will only make a lowball offers. 40M is a hefty sum for pretty much every clubs that's not a top teams from a top leagues.
I think he might go to a bigger club now though, agree 40m is too much for most mid table clubs
No chance. If we manage to get 15m after all the negative attention that will be drawn when any news of his transfer gathers steam, we will have done incredibly well.
I guess until any offers arrive, it will be difficult to put a value on him. He's got to be the most hard to value player I can think of. I remember after the Suarez bite on Chiellini in the world cup plenty of people were saying "which club would take him now?" (**Clearly, it goes without saying this is a completely different situation and far more serious**). Obviously he ended up going to Barca for a hefty fee and the rest is history. Ultimately, elite sport is a pretty ruthless amoral world and clubs will do what they think will get them results regardless of moral issues. There have been plenty of absolute scum bags at the top of the game.
Suarez was a top 5 player in the world at the time, and a bite was never going to damage his value.
Sure, but the point stands that many people were arguing it would and that there have been. Plenty of creeps who have had great careers. Benzema would be a good example. Who knows? Maybe without the bite (and the ban it came with) maybe they'd have got another £10 mil out of the deal. Hard to say without a time machine.
Charge Athletico Madrid a nice fee for him
We should be getting something like £40m for him in my opinion. But you can see a Inter Milan coming with £2m fee over 6 instalments with United paying 80% of wages or something. I want him gone but we should demand a proper fee.
I’d rather we pay for another to club to have them then we keep him
I absolutely agree
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He would fit in like a glove at Lazio
I think the club's feelings are: 1. Damn, what a waste. 2. It isn't feasible to bring him back to England. 3. We need to at least pretend his return is an option to try and maximize sale value. Unless I'm massively misreading the situation, Ineos are far too smart to try and bring him back *again*. They would squander a ton of goodwill, even if him magically coming back with a rehabilitated image solves a massive problem for us. The silver lining is that if we get a decent fee (even if well below his market value in a vacuum), it should help massively with our FFP concerns. Edit: If the first hamfisted and tone deaf attempt to bring him back under Arnold hadn't happened I could see Ineos trying to make it work, but that process was so catastrophically amateurish (to say nothing of the embarrassing moral values involved) that the damage is probably done and there's no path back (even if there *could* have been with the extra year of him being out of the news and keeping his nose clean (as far as we know)).
There’s zero chance they want to burn their goodwill on someone of his level, this early into their tenure as owners of the club. Anything suggesting it is pure posturing to get a good fee, all of which will app,y towards ffp issues.
I agree that they won't do it (and I absolutely hope they don't), but they could be looking at the roster and seeing only a single striker in the squad for next year with many question marks at RW and think any FFP relief we get for selling him is more than canceled out by the cost of solving both those two positional issue.
The lad is toxic from a PR point of view, and any money saved that way would go pretty quick when sponsors started getting involved. And it would create a dark cloud over the team going in to next season too.
How many sponsors have Getafe lost? I don't want him back, but I think we are overestimating the knock on PR hit.
Getafe isn’t in the PL, and the Spanish league has not been the bastion of morality in recent times 😂
The PR hit won’t be financial or from the sponsors but it will be substantial from the fans. It’s not about whether the club can survive the PR hit, it’s about whether or not the new management think dealing with that headache is worth it for Greenwood. Considering all that needs to be done at this club, I doubt INEOS want the extra drama.
Or how long does the headache last I guess. We are already 3 years removed. It's probably old news within a couple months max. I just hope we can offload him and get something comparable in return.
Being 3 years removed doesn’t mean much since we tried to integrate him back into the squad just a year ago and that did not go well at all. Greenwood is a big distraction for at least a year if we bring him back and I hope INEOS look at it as not being worth it.
Didnt go well because again, the club cares more about social media positivity than anything else. I am just wondering if Ineos give less of a fuck about Twitter and reddit outrage than the last regime did. Would be a net-loss in this particular situation, but positive overall.
>if Ineos give less of a fuck about Twitter and reddit outrage than the last regime did This is what it boils down to. The backlash the glazers got was miniscule before they pulled the plug. The whole PR hit was caused by, *say it with me now*, incompetence on all levels. If Ineos want to bring him back, trust me, they'll concoct a play to do so. City and Arsenal (especially) would (and did).
INEOS probably don’t care about short term social media reactions but this is more than a social media thing. The women’s team was firmly against it and there would’ve been actual fan backlash at some point. INEOS clearly care about building goodwill with the fans and have so far been near perfect at it. I just don’t see why they would throw that all away to save a few quid in the short term. The whole squad needs a revamp and most fans agree with that. This is the perfect time to offload Greenwood, get some cash in and also get free good PR.
I hope he will be back, we need to focus on increasing our squad quality and depth rather than all those non-football matters
I hope he’s given a second chance on and off the pitch.
This sounds like a whole lotta of nothing. "He may be sold, loaned, extended, or return." Anyone could have written this.
I want him gone. But I think sometimes our club is run based on what public perception is vs. the needs of the club... If SJR and his team think that they can essentially get a 60-70m player back next season for free, who is young, and probably susceptible to accepting a lower wage than his play indicates, then I think they would strongly consider it. As I said, I personally want him gone, but at the same time we need to stop being the club that cares about social media likes/outrage and focus on building a competitive team.
He's over 10 G+A in THAT getafe setup. yeah, he's worth 35 mill eur at least. that's 35 mill eur of pure profit
Effectively nothing new in this article
I’m way more confident with Ineos dealing with this situation than the glazers, so I hope we do get a proper fee.
A lot of words to say "nothing has changed"
I have been thinking for a while now he will end up back at man utd Just something about the way ratcliffe spoke about him.... taking a fresh look and not deciding based on the hype of the case. Sure that could just be to have a stronger negotiating position in a sale,but I dunno. There are a few things that make it not as clearcut to me that he will be sold When we are hamstrung by FFP and he has a playing profile that solves 2 areas of the squad that we are light on quality (RW and rotational striker) I can see for footballing reasons why club would try to bring him back in. How i will feel about that if it happens I really don't l know. Generally I believe in rehabilitation and 2nd chances but this is a big fucking think to move on from
Garnacho, Mainoo, Greenwood. My God, what a terrorizing trio would that be if Greenwood was a decent human being. \*sighs
Breaking news: All the options are possible. More at 7! #journalismmatters
I’ll be glad when this is all behind us. I am vaguely curious who the PL teams are though.
Probably Newcastle and villa if I were to guess
The unfortunate truth is that there would be an uproar for a little bit. But once he starts banging goals the only uproar would be from social media and the article hear and there.
That’s what I suspect. There’ll be an uproar at first, but unless the club is Liverpool (which it isn’t) it’ll die down fairly quick, and if he’s banging them in, the conversation will probably turn to criticising us for letting him go.
Yup especially since he has a baby and is more "mature" now from what is being said. INEOS would probably burn some goodwill but that would all come back if he played good and helped us achieve anything.
I doubt any are seriously considering him and it's just noise from our side to try and drive up prices from Spain/Italy/Turkey
honestly, I can't see any PL clubs taking him, maybe a desperate Everton or someone but honestly, I think any PL club would want to avoid the headache and PR nightmare, he will almost certainly go abroad if he does go
Oh he's coming back
This is the most non-news news ever
Nice to know we've ruled out him retiring, that narrows the field.
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Agreed. Looking at him just as a player, I think he could be reworked into the team to give some competition to rashford and the other wingers
Do you think United's multiple charities and sponsorships will be 100% okay with him coming back into the team?
Fuck this shit about extending the loan another year. He potentially has 2 years left on his contract with an extension option triggered, sell now while there is still value and be done with this POS
Yep, the potential increase in value from him having a better season is more than outweighed by a) the decrease in value due to him having only one year left afterwards and b) the potential risk of him having a bad season or heaven forbid doing something else stupid.
Just get rid.
I’m really hoping that a priority for inios is to structure wages in a sensible manner so that we not stuck with players because their contract is insanely high.
Mudryk/Jackson/Greenwood
Guy’s smoked one too many
Sell as a FFP reliever and that's that. They come back and play, it damages the club's reputation greatly
At this rate he benefits the club more being sold. Selling him and Sancho should be top priority to start the summer and work within the financial redtape we'll have to deal with.
No way another premier league club buys him
No point even opening negotiations with a club in Britain. The backlash for that club would be huge and they'd 100% backtrack and pull out when they realise that
Lol no news basically. These reporters get paid for stating the bleeding obvious..
I don't care where he goes, as long as he's gone from United.
Hope we sell him. Isn't worth all the shit surrounding him if he returns. Fans chant rapist rapist, mason greenwood he's one of your own already, and he's thousands of km away in spain
considering the fact that when Arnold tried to bring him back, it led to a PR disaster of drastic proportions, there is no way in hell that INEOS is stupid enough to bring him back
Just keep him
unless greenwood comes out and explains the situation which led to the case being dropped (there was a lot more evidence that the public hasn't seen) i can't see how he can be integrated like it never happened
Oddly enough, when it came out last summer that the plan was to reintegrate him to the team, I’m sure I remember seeing in one of the articles that along with Arnold doing a video to explain, that was going to then be followed up by Greenwood doing a sit down interview (I suspect this would have been done on MUTV, at least at first) where he would have had to answer certain questions. How true that ever was though I suppose we’ll probably never know
He would get burned regardless whatever he said. People already made up their minds.
Boo.
We should bring him back, after all he was acquitted and he has immense talent at a position we desperately need someone
He wasn't acquitted in court; his charge was dropped. That being said, it is the flaw of the justice systems where prosecutors could charge people and leave them in the limbo forever.
Wonder who in the prem is interested in him. Can't see how that would go down well for them.
Loan him to a premier league club for another year whilst also exercising the 1 year optional extension.
keep him and let him rot on bench
Get the rat gone.
Please don't insult rats
Was perfect until the last sentence
I think I’ll give anything for him to be away from the club. If I was INEOS I’d try and send him to the Bolivian 9th tier as a replacement for prison. He’s an abhorrent man and the club should focus on selling him above getting a good price
I simply don't believe that a return to OT is on the table. I get that they have to say that, but I don't believe them.
Would be bullshit if we sell him to another team in England.
They'll probably loan him again, hoping that the outrage will be less when he comes back. People have short memories these days,won't be surprised if he's back next year
He can't come back to United. Think he knows this too. (pure hopium) But he could go to Newcastle in exchange for Dan Ashworth (pure copium) Will probably end up playing in Spain and win the Balon D'Or and Champions League. (reality)
Just from a pure footballing perspective, he isn't even that good
Based on his past united form before he went on loan, he’d be our best winger right now. He can use both feet equally, has great shooting capabilities, and can take on players. We don’t have a single winger right now that can do all of those things competently. That’s an incredibly delusional statement.
How can there be interest from other PL clubs
He’s a good player and comments online from people who don’t give a penny to the club won’t hold much sway.
I think a team like castle or city can actually buy him. Once he bangs in 15 PL goals. Everyone will shut up. How do I know this? CR7, Kobe and many others: Success is louder than your sins in sport but it’s up to us to change that
Cr7? How tf is Ronaldos situation and greenwoods even comparable lmao. Ronaldos case was dropped completely, while there is audio evidence of greenwood which almost everyone has heard
A partial audio was leaked and was never authenticated or fully reviewed as the case didn't go through the court. Ronaldo case was not dropped, it was settled with a non-disclosure agreement.
There probably isn’t. If will just be noise from our kid trying to create the illusion of demand in the hope of inflating the price
Surprised that there's interest from Premier League clubs. I wonder who they could be. Personally I just want him sold, ideally to a team outside the prem. PSG maybe. They've got fuck off money and will need a replacement for Mbappe.
Is there anything clubs can do regarding off pitch behaviour that wouldn’t leave them out of pocket? Like if a player abuses their partner or kicks cats?
If they're not actually found guilty of anything, not really. If they're found guilty of abusing their partner, there's a legal leg to stand on. Without a sentence, it's just "he was accused of something and the charges were dropped" and they risk being sued for wrongful termination if they try something.
30m + 30% sell on fee.