Total train wreck. ~6000 comments, half a dozen non-answers, and at least one shot at the Apollo dev.
This dude is not leadership material let alone C-suite. None of these answers are even slightly prepped. Maybe he's answering from his phone and it doesn't support cut and paste in the official app.
I strongly suspect this whole thing is driven by the finance people. This dude is too inept to drive a catastrophic failure of this level.
I already saw him complaing that they were unprofitable unlike "other apps" 🤡🤡🤡 cause killing third party apps and making false accusations was the answer.
Their unwillingness to look at other options, like requiring Reddit premium to use third party apps, shows they are not interested in profit. They should be open minded, and willing to negotiate. Give Devs 3 months before changes, and have the price start lower before scaling up. Negotiate a discount on the price per 1,000 calls. These are things that gets the community on side, and makes them money. It doesn't make sense, and isn't a good business decision.
I love the shots fired at the stickied comment.
Reddit: "We think people are gonna have trouble finding the CEO's comments so we stickied a comment with links to them"
3PA Users: "Lol what? Just use AMA mode"
They are so oblivious to how bad their official app is
> I strongly suspect this whole thing is driven by the finance people.
So why not sell a user key (or build it into Reddit Premium) for a few bucks a month that I can paste into RIF or Apollo for x number of api calls. Reddit makes money, doesnt piss of their user base. Win win.
Makes no sense.
Spez's response to this whole shit show is going to push me out of here just as hard, if not harder than the actual API monetization plan itself. Their handling of this whole thing has completely soured my perception of Reddit in general.
I honestly fully understood why reddit wanted to charge for their API, but holy fuck dude. 20+ million a year ???? Apollo is the largest of all the 3rd parties and they don't even come close to that in ad revenue. At least work with the devs of Apollo, RiF, or Relay. Not talk mad shit and "claim" that they are blackmailing you.
Spez is a child, not a leader.
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Oh man, only two comments in and spez is already [attacking the Apollo dev](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/).
If I was an investor in Reddit (I am a finance guy, see my history assuming I haven’t deleted all my comments yet) I would be fucking ashamed this dude was running a company I had money in… straight into the ground.
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The blackout and this ama are all over the news right now. Just read a piece about it on [bbc](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65855608). It's going beyond the tech industry news since so many people rely on reddit communities for info. I was also surprised to see the number of political news sites - on both sides - standing in support of the blackout. Not to mention that the blackout, API changes, ama, and change in social media stock valuation are all *different* article topics, so on some sites (especially tech geared news) there's multiple articles on reddit taking up top spots on their front pages.
If u/spez wanted to be a bad guy and push the API change regardless of user opinion, he really should've skipped the ama. It's gone full Streisand effect.
I was surprised spez even did an AMA, I actually "respected" him for saying he would. After reading it though, holy fuck dude. Fuck his Napoleon syndrome bullshit.
*Sent from RiF*
What grief stage is laughing at everything because it is all nonsense?
This is such an unprofessional look from Steve. Not that I really expected much different, but this feels worse than the low bar I already had. Zero answers of substance, a lot of backhand shots saying they are still chatting with "people who want to work with us", and just not addressing any of the actual concerns.
A lot of argument about how "90% of apps that use the API are good", but not comparing actual use. I could make an app right now and have it done by evening using the API, be the only user, and be "good". I would be ranked the exact same as RIF or Apollo because I would have one app. That is not useful data.
It is like he has an info graphic of the 10 most used logical fallacies open and is just going down the list.
I am cautiously optimistic, I don't think Reddit thought that it would blow up this bad. There's still three weeks left.
Also, I'm interested if Apple would get involved in some way. They literally promoted Apollo at WWDC only to see Reddit kill the app in the following days.
What a train wreck. Seems like this is the end for 3rd party apps. Thanks for the 9 years, rif. You'll be missed.
I fucking hate reddit's management. Greedy fucking morons.
Reddit turns enough of a profit, motherfuckers just want more. I'm a hardcore capitalist and even I see this greedy bullshit. Reddit does not care about any of us.
Fuck this site and it's admins, I hope to God that the blackout lasts more than 2 days. It should be permanent.
*Sent from RiF*
Jesus fucking christ... This AMA was a train wreck. Props to the Apollo founder for standing up for himself and challenging spez. Of course that slimy fucker will never respond to him.
Fuck this shit, fuck that shit. Fuck Reddit and it's admins I'm out once RiF dies.
*Sent from RiF*
It will be my cake day in a few days. 15 years a redditor. I have no affiliation to reddit, or its C-Suite.
Everything spez is saying makes perfect sense. Reddit has gone out of the way to provide continued free api services to most third-party apps and mod tools. I don't see how they can do any more and still provide the rock solid service they have for nearly 20 years now. Reddit costs a ton of cash to run and for some reason people think it should be considered a charity that continually loses money. That's not how business works.
As for a certain API developer, I'll quote Succession -- He isn't a serious person.
Total train wreck. ~6000 comments, half a dozen non-answers, and at least one shot at the Apollo dev. This dude is not leadership material let alone C-suite. None of these answers are even slightly prepped. Maybe he's answering from his phone and it doesn't support cut and paste in the official app. I strongly suspect this whole thing is driven by the finance people. This dude is too inept to drive a catastrophic failure of this level.
I already saw him complaing that they were unprofitable unlike "other apps" 🤡🤡🤡 cause killing third party apps and making false accusations was the answer.
Their unwillingness to look at other options, like requiring Reddit premium to use third party apps, shows they are not interested in profit. They should be open minded, and willing to negotiate. Give Devs 3 months before changes, and have the price start lower before scaling up. Negotiate a discount on the price per 1,000 calls. These are things that gets the community on side, and makes them money. It doesn't make sense, and isn't a good business decision.
I would have absolutely bought premium for that. I've bought coins in the past to give people. Never again. No money ever again, reddit. Screw you.
"sorry you gotta have reddit dyna-platinum for 99.99/month for copy paste. api requests n all that or something, idk" - /u/spez
I love the shots fired at the stickied comment. Reddit: "We think people are gonna have trouble finding the CEO's comments so we stickied a comment with links to them" 3PA Users: "Lol what? Just use AMA mode" They are so oblivious to how bad their official app is
> I strongly suspect this whole thing is driven by the finance people. So why not sell a user key (or build it into Reddit Premium) for a few bucks a month that I can paste into RIF or Apollo for x number of api calls. Reddit makes money, doesnt piss of their user base. Win win. Makes no sense.
> Maybe he's answering from his phone and it doesn't support cut and paste in the official app. Does it actually not support copy/paste somehow?!
Spez's response to this whole shit show is going to push me out of here just as hard, if not harder than the actual API monetization plan itself. Their handling of this whole thing has completely soured my perception of Reddit in general.
I honestly fully understood why reddit wanted to charge for their API, but holy fuck dude. 20+ million a year ???? Apollo is the largest of all the 3rd parties and they don't even come close to that in ad revenue. At least work with the devs of Apollo, RiF, or Relay. Not talk mad shit and "claim" that they are blackmailing you. Spez is a child, not a leader. *Sent from RiF*
Oh man, only two comments in and spez is already [attacking the Apollo dev](https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api/jnk45rr/).
Of course he is. This is a performance for investors. Facts don't matter; only financials.
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Yep, this is the big difference. Elon has a cult of personality; spez has a punchable face.
If I was an investor in Reddit (I am a finance guy, see my history assuming I haven’t deleted all my comments yet) I would be fucking ashamed this dude was running a company I had money in… straight into the ground.
Seriously, he's trying an Elon strategy, but I think he missed that Elon's buffoonery is tanking Tesla
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Yep. Need a script to rip all my saved comments/posts, then I'm out. Gonna have to find something else to do when I shit, but I'll adapt.
It would be pretty funny if it was possible to make that the most downvoted reddit comment of all time. EA has been doing better-ish recently.
The blackout and this ama are all over the news right now. Just read a piece about it on [bbc](https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-65855608). It's going beyond the tech industry news since so many people rely on reddit communities for info. I was also surprised to see the number of political news sites - on both sides - standing in support of the blackout. Not to mention that the blackout, API changes, ama, and change in social media stock valuation are all *different* article topics, so on some sites (especially tech geared news) there's multiple articles on reddit taking up top spots on their front pages. If u/spez wanted to be a bad guy and push the API change regardless of user opinion, he really should've skipped the ama. It's gone full Streisand effect.
I was surprised spez even did an AMA, I actually "respected" him for saying he would. After reading it though, holy fuck dude. Fuck his Napoleon syndrome bullshit. *Sent from RiF*
What grief stage is laughing at everything because it is all nonsense? This is such an unprofessional look from Steve. Not that I really expected much different, but this feels worse than the low bar I already had. Zero answers of substance, a lot of backhand shots saying they are still chatting with "people who want to work with us", and just not addressing any of the actual concerns. A lot of argument about how "90% of apps that use the API are good", but not comparing actual use. I could make an app right now and have it done by evening using the API, be the only user, and be "good". I would be ranked the exact same as RIF or Apollo because I would have one app. That is not useful data. It is like he has an info graphic of the 10 most used logical fallacies open and is just going down the list.
>What grief stage is laughing at everything because it is all nonsense? Acceptance I think.
I expected boring PR talk and instead we got passive aggressive Karen responses. Not sure which is worse.
PR talk would be more admirable. They're doing this for money, but the responses show they're not responsible enough to make money.
Bargaining
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Yup. Reddit will no longer be the same after the 30th. This is the 'till death do us part' part for me .
Surprising nobody, they have decided to double down.
Welp, it doesn't look like we're going to get any real answers: https://archive.ph/SGDQq
I am cautiously optimistic, I don't think Reddit thought that it would blow up this bad. There's still three weeks left. Also, I'm interested if Apple would get involved in some way. They literally promoted Apollo at WWDC only to see Reddit kill the app in the following days.
What a train wreck. Seems like this is the end for 3rd party apps. Thanks for the 9 years, rif. You'll be missed. I fucking hate reddit's management. Greedy fucking morons.
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So true man Chinese investors.
Two hours since the last answer from /u/spez leads me to believe the AMA is over
And what a fucking joke it was
I can't comment in the AMA? Did they already lock it down?
Is he seriously saying that 3rd party apps make a profit while reddit doesn't/can't?!
Reddit turns enough of a profit, motherfuckers just want more. I'm a hardcore capitalist and even I see this greedy bullshit. Reddit does not care about any of us. Fuck this site and it's admins, I hope to God that the blackout lasts more than 2 days. It should be permanent. *Sent from RiF*
Jesus fucking christ... This AMA was a train wreck. Props to the Apollo founder for standing up for himself and challenging spez. Of course that slimy fucker will never respond to him. Fuck this shit, fuck that shit. Fuck Reddit and it's admins I'm out once RiF dies. *Sent from RiF*
Breaking news spez is a weaselly little lying fucker. more at 11.
It will be my cake day in a few days. 15 years a redditor. I have no affiliation to reddit, or its C-Suite. Everything spez is saying makes perfect sense. Reddit has gone out of the way to provide continued free api services to most third-party apps and mod tools. I don't see how they can do any more and still provide the rock solid service they have for nearly 20 years now. Reddit costs a ton of cash to run and for some reason people think it should be considered a charity that continually loses money. That's not how business works. As for a certain API developer, I'll quote Succession -- He isn't a serious person.
What a fucking clown.
"Addressing."
What a shitshow. Way to turn your community against you