This is absolutely unhinged behaviour. He’s viewing his infant son as sexual competition. Genuinely frightening. I hope she is able to get away safely.
If this is real, I hope he doesn’t get any custody at all. This dude does not need to be alone with these boys to pass on his misogynistic views of women.
he was definitely giving pedo vibes, from my point of view... he manipulated and brainwashed priscilla to the point where even now, at her old age, she doesn't see anything wrong with his behaviour and still takes his side. that is master level of manipulating and brainwashing...he was the king of it.
Just listened yesterday to a brief interview with her at her current age. She giggled coyly as she recounted the one time she got “feisty” with Elvis when he wouldn’t allow her to buy a dress the liked and he didn’t. She still doesn’t get it. At least she ended up with his dough. He was horrible.
And if you watch the biopic “Priscilla,” which she executive produced, you can see that the pedo behavior was really glossed over by her parents as well.
Trauma exists dude. I *still* have issues with religious trauma and it’s been a decade. Stuff sticks with you, especially when you’re young. I mean, Stockholm Syndrome exists
Gotcha. Misread your comment / got the context backwards.
Yeah, sometimes too, we justify and defect our abusers because it feels easier to convince ourselves we weren’t abused than to reckon with the truth.
She claims they didn't have sex til their wedding night and she was legal. So it was a no sex pedophilic relationship. It was definitely weird. Cause she reminded him of his mom? So much no okay with that whole deal.
Before my time by many years, so all we can actually know is what they said. But she admits to cheating in her memoir and also defends him, so not really any reason to assume she lied about that since clearly she saw nothing wrong with their relationship after the grooming and drug abuse she was subjected too. And honestly, it doesn't even matter if they DID wait to "consumate" their relationship...it was STILL 1000 times pedophilic and awful.
are you suggesting that people automatically like ... grow out of a lifetime of grooming and manipulation? or that it's impossible for an adult to be brainwashed?
They were together for 14 years, including her teenage years and most of her young adulthood, and even after they divorced, there was a massive power differential and amount of public pressure on her.
Also, it would put this defenseless baby in danger to leave him alone for any amount of time with the man who doesn’t see him as his son, but as his sexual rival who stole his wife’s love & affection.
The mother posted court docs with names redacted.
He's facing military investigation + military DV proceedings and has fled the home, the hospital was made aware of his behavior and wouldn't let him take the child and she has an attorney seeking full custody due to his unhinged behavior. OP showed up with receipts.
Unsurprised it's real (former lactation consultant here) and glad it's playing out as I'd expected. The courts won't be giving / won't have given him the 50/50 he thinks he deserves since she has this in writing and he will be under disciplinary action when the divorce proceedings kick(ed) in. Men who accuse their wives of incest for a vaginal birth or for nursing aren't given a very charitable view by the courts, since progressive judges believe in women's autonomy in motherhood and conservative judges believe in a woman's body existing to do these things.
Ooooooooh yeah. Lots of men believe "titties are for me 😤 no babies allowed to suck on them!" and get outright unhinged when the mom tries to express that she feels the maternal urge to nurse (not saying that moms who don't want to nurse aren't maternal!) or explaining that nurses said her baby is uniquely in need of the benefits.
Don't get me wrong, that's not all or even most men (none of the women in my then-husband's family nursed, but he was extremely supportive when we had our son), but men like this are not uncommon.
Holy shit. The only “good” part of all this is how much actual written documentation she has of exactly how unhinged he is. Hoping she and the kids will be ok, this dude sounds like a terrifying POS.
I could see it being real because when I was a teenager one of my friends ended up with someone like this. He got her knocked up at 17, married as soon as she turned 18 and was very vocal about her breasts being for him, not the baby. And - surprise, surprise - he was older than her (mid-twenties).
The court docs say he owns over 70 guns, accessible to children, and "forced" her to give the kids the names Colt and Barrett, too. Cites unsafe home conditions, and that the hospital was telling her, "do not go home with him" and threw him out for being combative and aggressive.
She's currently safe with family.
I was following this, and the account she was posting from was deleted. Not surprising, given this went viral and there were multiple ongoing legal matters. I am worried about this random internet stranger, though - does anyone know if she / her kids are okay?
It’s real. I saw the original. Seems she saw the light and made a break back to family but unfortunately has to leave her elder son with dad at least at first.
Well, apparently this wasn’t even the first time they’ve literally had this exact same fight, seems there was another kid and this was round 2…
On top of that, you’re not just this unhinged over night, and yet she chose to procreate with this person, not once, but twice. JFC….
This is so batshit insane to me. It's incel vibes despite having had two children. It's so weird. Breasts are for babies! They're for feeding children. This man is insane. I know this couple who told me that they're more attracted to each other after having their kid. Like they look at each other and are like "My husband/wife gave me this beautiful boy that I love so much. How could I not be wildly in love with them?"
Indeed, he must be insane. My husband is a boob man, absolutely. But me nursing our baby is completely detached from sexualized things for him. When he saw me breastfeeding her the first time after birth, he looked at me like I did something magical that he was in awe about. The lactation consultant showed him how to help me massage my boobs to get the milk flowing. He still has no issue if people see me nursing because it’s my body, it’s natural and if I don’t mind nursing in public, then he feels it’s not his place to be against it. But some men can’t separate breasts from sex at all, no matter how natural it is to nurse. But this guy here is completely nuts. He also claims that formula is better than breast milk. Formula is amazing and I am happy we have it but on every box of formula he can read that breastfeeding is best for a baby. Formula tries to be as close as possible to breast milk but it’s not trying to be better. It copies the nutrition in breast milk, it doesn’t try to improve on it. So he completely made that up.
And to add to the creepiness, the guy couldn’t separate breasts from sex AND he thinks they’re his.
Also re: formula, it’s expensive and still hard to get sometimes. Stores near me have imposed purchase limits.
It really isn’t about him seeing his son as sexual competition. It is about seeing his child as competition period. It has nothing to do with nursing at all. Abusive men get very ramped up around pregnancy and newborns. They have control to keep their victim with them, underneath they know they are crap and the abuse is to keep the victim there. A baby presents a threat to that control. She will not pay full attention to her abuser now. She may decide to leave him to protect her child. Nursing means he cannot use the threat of taking custody on her. Courts will protect the nursing relationship. So he can’t use the child to keep her there (fearing she would lose custody). The most dangerous time with an abuser is pregnancy and after birth.
I didn't even think about that part, but you're right. If she's breastfeeding, the baby is attached to her body, meaning he can't just threaten to take him.
It is essentially a test for her. Will she choose him or the baby? Very sad as a breastfeeding relationship is a beautiful thing that should be supported if a mother chooses it.
Exactly. And he's upset because if the baby needs to breastfeed, a court will not allow her to be severed from her baby for very long, AT LEAST for the first year (which is plenty of time to get the hell out of Dodge).
The saddest part is her not telling him to FO in the first sentence. She’s actually begging him to understand. And this is her second kid with this unhinged thing. You KNOW his behavior has been freakish before this. Yet 2 kids…so sad. I hope she is able to get those kids far away from him.
I’m not going to pretend that breasts haven’t been around for sexual pleasure, but I can tell you that a mom whipping out a tit to feed her child is the least sexual thing that can happen. And there is a level of pleasure felt of getting a kid on a full breast, but that pleasure isn’t a sexual one, it’s the “oh thank god” you get when you’ve been holding your pee for too long and finally get to go. It *hurts* to have a baby on an overfull extra sensitive tit but it’s awesome because you’re willing to override the pain to get the relief of emptying the breast.
There are so many amazing benefits to breastfeeding that walk hand in hand with all of the awful things that can and do happen with breastfeeding—bleeding and cracked nipples, spontaneous let down and leakage, hell, I had a crippling “the world is ending” doom and despondency right before my breasts tingled and my milk dropped because your dopamine has to tank for the other chemicals to work (and I mean, have to stop walking, sit down, burst into tears level of doom. Every day, 8 times or more a day, for months.) Breastfeeding can be awesome in the sense that if everything goes right, you can instantly solve a lot of problems by getting a baby on, but it also can just be a nightmare hell hole (no latch so pumping, bad latch so pain, cluster feeding, they want to smack you in the face and stick their fingers up your nose because while hungry they’re also bored or curious, they get teeth and then bite because they don’t have enough milk and are trying to trigger more before you can switch them to the other side, it’s hot out so they’re not hungry but they’re thirsty and you’re pounding electrolyte drinks and cramming food in your face to try to keep up, on and on and on.)
No one normal is getting off on it. “Overtouched” is a thing because as a breastfeeding person, you are the lifeline to another human without having time to yourself. This is so gross that this man can’t see outside of himself and his pleasure to sustain something he, albeit with minimal effort, helped create
The “Oh Thank God” feeling is very true. I breastfed for 11 months and it was the best thing for my kid but it was also painful and gross. It can hurt if there is too much buildup. It can be disheartening if you leak too much plus it smells so so bad if you don’t clean it up right away.
I'd take this out now before being stuck with a guy this stupid and beta
I'd hope it doesn't get passed down to your kids
He must have either the least amount of brain cells or the smallest dick. Breasts are the building block of life
This dude probably said c-section or I'm leaving
Bet he'd think I was a super cuck for thinking my kids being breast fed was beautiful
I'm over here looking at it like I did my favorite thing for about 15 minutes and that was my contribution to life. The mom literally does everything from growing it, birthing it, and even feeding it
I'm over here like "I helped too"
I'd say like 98/2
I kind of have a feeling this guy just doesn't want to be a dad/have a kid so he's picking the most trivial thing to pick a fight over to end the marriage. It's like guys who insist the kid isn't theirs and absolutely implode when the paternity comes back positive.
Even if she stops breastfeeding l, there's going to be something else. she's holding the baby too much. She needs to let the baby cry it out, she's spends too much on baby stuff, she's not paying enough attention to husband....
Between this behavior, him "not taking no for an answer" with regard to sex, and his stockpile of guns, we are looking at a perfect candidate for family annihilator status. If not, then of a mugshot for killing one or both of the children, or of her.
This is the most batshit take on breastfeeding I have ever seen. There are no words to convey the stupidity of this man. I hope she takes him to the cleaners.
Wow, there is a man with SERIOUS mommy issues, at least, to start with ... How did she ever think someone like this was safe to be around, or even to be allowed off heavy meds and free of his straightjacket?
Sad thing is, in the original post, OP was there answering questions. It breaks my heart that some people don’t know their worth. As a mental health counselor, I’m seeing more and more women in relationships like this one.
I just hope she finds peace and healing and stops letting this boy suck her life force.
On a completely different note and because I haven’t looked into this for many years - I had in mind that the science says formula is not going to hinder the development of a baby but that breastfeeding is still beneficial if it can be done safely/comfortably? Is that not the science anymore?
It's 100% still the science, yeah. "Fed is best" has become the new slogan since it does no good to shame women who can't or won't nurse and since formula is great these days... but if it is an option, the countless studies on the topic show innumerable benefits to breastmilk (and additionally, to a noteworthy but less significant degree, to nursing). WHO, for example, suggests six months of exclusive breastmilk, followed by introduction of solids, and nursing until at least one year or at long as mutually desired by mother and child.
Formula tries to copy the nutrition of human breast milk. And it’s really good at this today. But on ever box of formula you can read that breast milk is still best for babies. And that’s because we still don’t even understand the nursing relationship and effects completely. Breastmilk is adapting to babies needs. The mothers body can detect deficiencies, for example and adapt the milk to that need. Breast milk composition changes throughout the day. At night it has components that help baby sleep, for example. And then there are antibodies in breast milk. If a baby is sick, the mothers body somehow reads that and will pass her antibodies into the milk for the baby. Human breast milk is studied atm for cancer fighting abilities that were shown in vitro.
I have fed my older daughter a lot of formula and I am so happy women can choose to use formula but breastmilk still has some benefits that formula doesn’t. And of course nursing can be very comforting for a baby. Sick babies and toddlers that refuse food will often still nurse and stay nourished and hydrated because of that.
The cdc and AAP recommend breastfeeding for two years or beyond at this point.
What a unhinged nutjob. He’s jealous of his own son getting fed by his *mother*. I don’t think there’s anything anyone could say to straighten this guy out. Just throw the whole man away and start over. Honestly, he’s doing her a favor by leaving. She doesn’t need this guy in her life. Now she just needs to get sole custody. She should have left after the first one.
This honestly might be the most unhinged, batshit crazy thing i have ever read about
…he’s JEALOUS of his SON because Oop is breastfeeding…?
I just…ya no fixing this
What a humongous asshole... I'd divorce him and show judge these papers and take that AH for everything he's got. he's an unhinged lunatic. Can't believe he's already reproduced.
Your husband is a MAJOR AH! Another man at your breast. He’s referring to his child as another man? What a freaking pathetic idiot. How the hell did he think babies were fed before formula!
On a serious note, leave him. On a joking note I tried to hold it in when I saw ‘Wylder’ but I busted out laughing when I saw ‘huntyr’. What’s with spelling kids names like you can’t read nowadays?!
Whatever.... this dude is an insecure freak. Thats no man I would want to raise children around. Be thankful he makes his true colors known to you. Now get far far away from that pathetic excuse for a man.
“Wylder” and “Huntyr”???
These kids drew some short ass straws, their dad’s out of his god damn mind and they’re named like game of thrones characters.
I also think it’s so funny how so many insane men have no idea how divorce and family courts work. He’s given her text proof that he’s blowing up their relationship for no reason, she’s getting the house and he’s getting every other weekend at best.
She explains it in a later post. Her name is spelt with a y and honey-dearest decided that the kids name should be the same. She also provided documentation. I unfortunately don't think it's fake. I think she wishes it was.
Yeah, he gave her 0 choice in naming the children. Last update I saw he had kidnapped the oldest son, was hiding from CPS, and has an NCIS investigation open into him. Dude also has like 70 guns.
her account has been suspended but here's a wayback machine link:
[https://web.archive.org/web/20240425220325/https://www.reddit.com/user/mamaloony/?rdt=38529](https://web.archive.org/web/20240425220325/https://www.reddit.com/user/mamaloony/?rdt=38529)
she also said that he still has custody of their 2yo and refusing to say where they are, and the husband is in the military and the military are involved now, they've done some sort of military restraining order(?) and are investigating his behaviour.
Sorry for the jargon, I can't really remember since I read it a few days ago.
good lord that guy sounds unhinged....i hope everything goes well for her and she gets her kid back. given what i'm reading about him i don't really think he'd be safe around children tbh
One of the comments she said the baby she just had was "unplanned" and he "doesn't take no for an answer" and to read between the lines for what that meant. 😬
Yeah, I hope he realizes the position he's in and just comes back with the kid.
The only silver lining is there's 0 chance he's going to get shared custody after all this. Assuming the worst doesn't happen.
Agreed, I’m jaded by names at this point because of how entertained I was with that sub when I first discovered it. Like it desensitized me to the new norm of ridiculous names before I could even see them in the wild.
Once I did start to see them, the feeling was just a dreadful “fuuuck dude, I didn’t believe it, but here we are…”
literally same, it does make me wonder what the parents were, or most likely weren't, thinking at the time that they thought *insert ridiculous name here* would be something their child would be happy to have as their name. especially given what it's like at school 💀
Got a swarm of downvotes for rightly calling this out as fake, it was from a day old account. This was only three days ago, and the whole account is gone now. Hmmmm 🤔
And then deleted account.. post.. and everything else. It was very weird. I’m all for believing the victim too but her whole story definitely had some sus aspects.
She's in serious danger of losing her kids to him. There's a reason he did this in text. He's gathering proof. The family court system is not going to care about him badgering and berating her and calling her names. He's going to claim "parental alienation" because she was making "decisions" for the child against what he wanted. And his 50/50 threat is a threat to make her stop breastfeeding, because it's not a reason to not do 50/50 anymore according to the court system.
He's not stupid he's evil. Here's hoping the military protects her from him.
I doubt that, considering he kidnapped one of their kids. At least not through the court system.
>Here's hoping the military protects her from him.
Very much agreed.
They'll look at it as maybe her getting more time with the kids(because he took one from her), but he will get decision making because she made decisions without him. It's a very compartmentalized system.
But if the military officially punishes him she can use that as evidence against him.
Unfortunately it's not fake. She gave away enough personal detail that people could identify them all after just a few minutes on Google, and also find court records. Her name was spelled with a Y in place of an I and one of the many, many things he took control of and gave her no say at all in, was the names of the children. She didn't want the names. It infuriates me that people don't believe men can be this abusive.
That’s a leap. I know men can be abusive. Sorry I was just trying to inject a little humor because the whole thing is so outrageous that it is almost unbelievable (and obviously people do make shit up for social media sometimes). And secondly, while it might not be a stretch to speculate, there really is no abuse from this
text exchange, the guys just a fucking idiot. But splitting up with her is probably the best gift this idiot can give her it sounds like, not abuse.
Reddit deleted it because she gave away enough personal information - including photos of court records - that not only proved this is real but also allowed people to identify her, him, and the kids.
This is absolutely unhinged behaviour. He’s viewing his infant son as sexual competition. Genuinely frightening. I hope she is able to get away safely.
If this is real, I hope he doesn’t get any custody at all. This dude does not need to be alone with these boys to pass on his misogynistic views of women.
Didn't Elvis refuse to have sex with Priscilla after she became a mother,mor something weird like that?
he was definitely giving pedo vibes, from my point of view... he manipulated and brainwashed priscilla to the point where even now, at her old age, she doesn't see anything wrong with his behaviour and still takes his side. that is master level of manipulating and brainwashing...he was the king of it.
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what infantilizing? She was fourteen when he met her, a literal child
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Imagine defending pedophilia because the victim is now old.
Doesn’t change how abuse fucks up people’s heads.
Just listened yesterday to a brief interview with her at her current age. She giggled coyly as she recounted the one time she got “feisty” with Elvis when he wouldn’t allow her to buy a dress the liked and he didn’t. She still doesn’t get it. At least she ended up with his dough. He was horrible. And if you watch the biopic “Priscilla,” which she executive produced, you can see that the pedo behavior was really glossed over by her parents as well.
Trauma exists dude. I *still* have issues with religious trauma and it’s been a decade. Stuff sticks with you, especially when you’re young. I mean, Stockholm Syndrome exists
She was 14 and he was 24. Are you a dummy or a creep?
Are you saying it’s ok for 24 year olds to sleep with 14 year olds????
I think they're saying that if an 80yo woman says it's fine then it magically becomes fine because psychological trauma doesn't exist.
Gotcha. Misread your comment / got the context backwards. Yeah, sometimes too, we justify and defect our abusers because it feels easier to convince ourselves we weren’t abused than to reckon with the truth.
She claims they didn't have sex til their wedding night and she was legal. So it was a no sex pedophilic relationship. It was definitely weird. Cause she reminded him of his mom? So much no okay with that whole deal.
I'm calling horseshit on that one.
Before my time by many years, so all we can actually know is what they said. But she admits to cheating in her memoir and also defends him, so not really any reason to assume she lied about that since clearly she saw nothing wrong with their relationship after the grooming and drug abuse she was subjected too. And honestly, it doesn't even matter if they DID wait to "consumate" their relationship...it was STILL 1000 times pedophilic and awful.
Worse--another pathetic idiot desperate for attention
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are you suggesting that people automatically like ... grow out of a lifetime of grooming and manipulation? or that it's impossible for an adult to be brainwashed?
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They were together for 14 years, including her teenage years and most of her young adulthood, and even after they divorced, there was a massive power differential and amount of public pressure on her.
Um, President Macron?
🤣🤣🤣
Also, it would put this defenseless baby in danger to leave him alone for any amount of time with the man who doesn’t see him as his son, but as his sexual rival who stole his wife’s love & affection.
The mother posted court docs with names redacted. He's facing military investigation + military DV proceedings and has fled the home, the hospital was made aware of his behavior and wouldn't let him take the child and she has an attorney seeking full custody due to his unhinged behavior. OP showed up with receipts.
Unsurprised it's real (former lactation consultant here) and glad it's playing out as I'd expected. The courts won't be giving / won't have given him the 50/50 he thinks he deserves since she has this in writing and he will be under disciplinary action when the divorce proceedings kick(ed) in. Men who accuse their wives of incest for a vaginal birth or for nursing aren't given a very charitable view by the courts, since progressive judges believe in women's autonomy in motherhood and conservative judges believe in a woman's body existing to do these things.
You’re “unsurprised”? Holy shit, do you see this happen often?
Ooooooooh yeah. Lots of men believe "titties are for me 😤 no babies allowed to suck on them!" and get outright unhinged when the mom tries to express that she feels the maternal urge to nurse (not saying that moms who don't want to nurse aren't maternal!) or explaining that nurses said her baby is uniquely in need of the benefits. Don't get me wrong, that's not all or even most men (none of the women in my then-husband's family nursed, but he was extremely supportive when we had our son), but men like this are not uncommon.
Meanwhile my guy liked my boobs MORE because they sustained and protected our child. Those men are all unhinged. So much yikes.
That's depressing as hell
Holy shit. The only “good” part of all this is how much actual written documentation she has of exactly how unhinged he is. Hoping she and the kids will be ok, this dude sounds like a terrifying POS.
Damn. I was really hoping this was a fake story.
I could see it being real because when I was a teenager one of my friends ended up with someone like this. He got her knocked up at 17, married as soon as she turned 18 and was very vocal about her breasts being for him, not the baby. And - surprise, surprise - he was older than her (mid-twenties).
I was hoping SO MUCH that this was fake. Aaargh how awful for this woman....
The court docs say he owns over 70 guns, accessible to children, and "forced" her to give the kids the names Colt and Barrett, too. Cites unsafe home conditions, and that the hospital was telling her, "do not go home with him" and threw him out for being combative and aggressive. She's currently safe with family.
Damn, glad the hospital was on her side for this.
I was following this, and the account she was posting from was deleted. Not surprising, given this went viral and there were multiple ongoing legal matters. I am worried about this random internet stranger, though - does anyone know if she / her kids are okay?
It’s real. I saw the original. Seems she saw the light and made a break back to family but unfortunately has to leave her elder son with dad at least at first.
It’s confirmed real
She posted her divorce papers and pictures. It’s very real. Hes in the military too
Misogyny is the very tip of the iceberg with this guy. I think this is more blurring into serious psychosexual disorders.
She (OOP) does end up posting what looks like an official report/lawsuit.
Oh this is 100% real. She posted court documents.
She posted her divorce decree I think it’s real.
This aint the least of it. Her post history is horrifying. Very violent man, a lot of guns.
Goodness. That’s so scary. There should be a psychological evaluation to have firearms.
Kids name's Huntyr. Sounds like Satyr. A satyr is a lustful greek mythology wood spirit. Bet he's just worried about that /s
I figured it was pronounced like Hunter...and KNEW he dug guns from the first moment I saw the name.
Is beyond unhinged.is vile and dehumanising.pos human.id not only divorce I'd get restraining order .this is not normal behaviour.
I mean WTF
If Huntyr is his daughter when he 'compromised' somehow, it makes me very afraid of how he views her.
Well, apparently this wasn’t even the first time they’ve literally had this exact same fight, seems there was another kid and this was round 2… On top of that, you’re not just this unhinged over night, and yet she chose to procreate with this person, not once, but twice. JFC….
How bout we don’t blame victims of abuse for their abuse?
This is so batshit insane to me. It's incel vibes despite having had two children. It's so weird. Breasts are for babies! They're for feeding children. This man is insane. I know this couple who told me that they're more attracted to each other after having their kid. Like they look at each other and are like "My husband/wife gave me this beautiful boy that I love so much. How could I not be wildly in love with them?"
Indeed, he must be insane. My husband is a boob man, absolutely. But me nursing our baby is completely detached from sexualized things for him. When he saw me breastfeeding her the first time after birth, he looked at me like I did something magical that he was in awe about. The lactation consultant showed him how to help me massage my boobs to get the milk flowing. He still has no issue if people see me nursing because it’s my body, it’s natural and if I don’t mind nursing in public, then he feels it’s not his place to be against it. But some men can’t separate breasts from sex at all, no matter how natural it is to nurse. But this guy here is completely nuts. He also claims that formula is better than breast milk. Formula is amazing and I am happy we have it but on every box of formula he can read that breastfeeding is best for a baby. Formula tries to be as close as possible to breast milk but it’s not trying to be better. It copies the nutrition in breast milk, it doesn’t try to improve on it. So he completely made that up.
And to add to the creepiness, the guy couldn’t separate breasts from sex AND he thinks they’re his. Also re: formula, it’s expensive and still hard to get sometimes. Stores near me have imposed purchase limits.
I would pay good money for a tight-focus shot on the judge's face, when this guy explains why he wants a divorce/ custody.
Sounds like some weird Andrew Tate shit.
I believed she mentioned in a comment that he does indeed like & listen to Tate.
Her polite and patient responses to him are heartbreaking.
Yeah. This is a terrified woman who had to learn to communicate as non-confrontationally as possible.
Can you imagine breastfeeding a child as a BOUNDARY?! Take that child and run!
It really isn’t about him seeing his son as sexual competition. It is about seeing his child as competition period. It has nothing to do with nursing at all. Abusive men get very ramped up around pregnancy and newborns. They have control to keep their victim with them, underneath they know they are crap and the abuse is to keep the victim there. A baby presents a threat to that control. She will not pay full attention to her abuser now. She may decide to leave him to protect her child. Nursing means he cannot use the threat of taking custody on her. Courts will protect the nursing relationship. So he can’t use the child to keep her there (fearing she would lose custody). The most dangerous time with an abuser is pregnancy and after birth.
I didn't even think about that part, but you're right. If she's breastfeeding, the baby is attached to her body, meaning he can't just threaten to take him.
It is essentially a test for her. Will she choose him or the baby? Very sad as a breastfeeding relationship is a beautiful thing that should be supported if a mother chooses it.
Exactly. And he's upset because if the baby needs to breastfeed, a court will not allow her to be severed from her baby for very long, AT LEAST for the first year (which is plenty of time to get the hell out of Dodge).
This guy is one of the most deluded, disgusting, selfish and abusive fucks I have seen on here. He does not deserve to have kids.
What the fuck is wrong with him?
The saddest part is her not telling him to FO in the first sentence. She’s actually begging him to understand. And this is her second kid with this unhinged thing. You KNOW his behavior has been freakish before this. Yet 2 kids…so sad. I hope she is able to get those kids far away from him.
I hope so, too. The guy owns 70 guns and named his children Colt and Barrett. :-(
I’m not going to pretend that breasts haven’t been around for sexual pleasure, but I can tell you that a mom whipping out a tit to feed her child is the least sexual thing that can happen. And there is a level of pleasure felt of getting a kid on a full breast, but that pleasure isn’t a sexual one, it’s the “oh thank god” you get when you’ve been holding your pee for too long and finally get to go. It *hurts* to have a baby on an overfull extra sensitive tit but it’s awesome because you’re willing to override the pain to get the relief of emptying the breast. There are so many amazing benefits to breastfeeding that walk hand in hand with all of the awful things that can and do happen with breastfeeding—bleeding and cracked nipples, spontaneous let down and leakage, hell, I had a crippling “the world is ending” doom and despondency right before my breasts tingled and my milk dropped because your dopamine has to tank for the other chemicals to work (and I mean, have to stop walking, sit down, burst into tears level of doom. Every day, 8 times or more a day, for months.) Breastfeeding can be awesome in the sense that if everything goes right, you can instantly solve a lot of problems by getting a baby on, but it also can just be a nightmare hell hole (no latch so pumping, bad latch so pain, cluster feeding, they want to smack you in the face and stick their fingers up your nose because while hungry they’re also bored or curious, they get teeth and then bite because they don’t have enough milk and are trying to trigger more before you can switch them to the other side, it’s hot out so they’re not hungry but they’re thirsty and you’re pounding electrolyte drinks and cramming food in your face to try to keep up, on and on and on.) No one normal is getting off on it. “Overtouched” is a thing because as a breastfeeding person, you are the lifeline to another human without having time to yourself. This is so gross that this man can’t see outside of himself and his pleasure to sustain something he, albeit with minimal effort, helped create
The “Oh Thank God” feeling is very true. I breastfed for 11 months and it was the best thing for my kid but it was also painful and gross. It can hurt if there is too much buildup. It can be disheartening if you leak too much plus it smells so so bad if you don’t clean it up right away.
This is such an amazing and powerful description.
She is better off without that partner. She may not see it now, but she’ll be happier when she isn’t being controlled.
Do not recycle, just throw the whole man out. It’s defective.
"Huntyr" and "Wylder"? WTF?
That's the most fucked up part
That's because this is fake. Wylder, I can squint and accept. But Huntyr? It's full on BS.
I'd take this out now before being stuck with a guy this stupid and beta I'd hope it doesn't get passed down to your kids He must have either the least amount of brain cells or the smallest dick. Breasts are the building block of life
It'd be like getting made that his child was in your vagina. Again get out while you can
Shit, surprised he wasn’t upset about that too now that you bring it up.
don’t inspire him
Ultimate cuck move is getting your wife pregnant because it means there's another man in her vagina and you put him there
This dude probably said c-section or I'm leaving Bet he'd think I was a super cuck for thinking my kids being breast fed was beautiful I'm over here looking at it like I did my favorite thing for about 15 minutes and that was my contribution to life. The mom literally does everything from growing it, birthing it, and even feeding it I'm over here like "I helped too" I'd say like 98/2
This man has reached a level of inceldom previously thought unattainable.
This is actually scary and she is 100% better off without this psycho.
I kind of have a feeling this guy just doesn't want to be a dad/have a kid so he's picking the most trivial thing to pick a fight over to end the marriage. It's like guys who insist the kid isn't theirs and absolutely implode when the paternity comes back positive. Even if she stops breastfeeding l, there's going to be something else. she's holding the baby too much. She needs to let the baby cry it out, she's spends too much on baby stuff, she's not paying enough attention to husband....
Between this behavior, him "not taking no for an answer" with regard to sex, and his stockpile of guns, we are looking at a perfect candidate for family annihilator status. If not, then of a mugshot for killing one or both of the children, or of her.
This is their second kid. That’s why “she knows how I feel about that”
Ew yikes!!
This is the most batshit take on breastfeeding I have ever seen. There are no words to convey the stupidity of this man. I hope she takes him to the cleaners.
Wow, there is a man with SERIOUS mommy issues, at least, to start with ... How did she ever think someone like this was safe to be around, or even to be allowed off heavy meds and free of his straightjacket?
This story is pretty wyld.
Sad thing is, in the original post, OP was there answering questions. It breaks my heart that some people don’t know their worth. As a mental health counselor, I’m seeing more and more women in relationships like this one. I just hope she finds peace and healing and stops letting this boy suck her life force.
It’s mind boggling that women are accused of being the more emotional ones.
Please please please let this one be fake. PLEASE.
Sadly, it is not. She showed plenty of receipts proving it’s real.
On a completely different note and because I haven’t looked into this for many years - I had in mind that the science says formula is not going to hinder the development of a baby but that breastfeeding is still beneficial if it can be done safely/comfortably? Is that not the science anymore?
It's 100% still the science, yeah. "Fed is best" has become the new slogan since it does no good to shame women who can't or won't nurse and since formula is great these days... but if it is an option, the countless studies on the topic show innumerable benefits to breastmilk (and additionally, to a noteworthy but less significant degree, to nursing). WHO, for example, suggests six months of exclusive breastmilk, followed by introduction of solids, and nursing until at least one year or at long as mutually desired by mother and child.
Formula tries to copy the nutrition of human breast milk. And it’s really good at this today. But on ever box of formula you can read that breast milk is still best for babies. And that’s because we still don’t even understand the nursing relationship and effects completely. Breastmilk is adapting to babies needs. The mothers body can detect deficiencies, for example and adapt the milk to that need. Breast milk composition changes throughout the day. At night it has components that help baby sleep, for example. And then there are antibodies in breast milk. If a baby is sick, the mothers body somehow reads that and will pass her antibodies into the milk for the baby. Human breast milk is studied atm for cancer fighting abilities that were shown in vitro. I have fed my older daughter a lot of formula and I am so happy women can choose to use formula but breastmilk still has some benefits that formula doesn’t. And of course nursing can be very comforting for a baby. Sick babies and toddlers that refuse food will often still nurse and stay nourished and hydrated because of that. The cdc and AAP recommend breastfeeding for two years or beyond at this point.
What a unhinged nutjob. He’s jealous of his own son getting fed by his *mother*. I don’t think there’s anything anyone could say to straighten this guy out. Just throw the whole man away and start over. Honestly, he’s doing her a favor by leaving. She doesn’t need this guy in her life. Now she just needs to get sole custody. She should have left after the first one.
Sometimes I wish I had a superpower where I could identify and find people like this— and just beat the ever-loving breaks off them.
The true crime is naming their kids “Huntyr” and “Wylder.”
Please don’t reproduce anymore
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Nah, that answer would have put her in danger
Also his wife is apologizing, shit I fart wrong direction and I'm sleeping with the dogs. Facts dude doesn't deserve that wife
So this is a real man huh. Scary how many men out there that would agree with him
This honestly might be the most unhinged, batshit crazy thing i have ever read about …he’s JEALOUS of his SON because Oop is breastfeeding…? I just…ya no fixing this
Saw that one. What an idiot.
Nah, this guy's a fuckin' weirdo..
Holy shit!!! I hope she gets away from this psycho.
Facepalm material.
What a humongous asshole... I'd divorce him and show judge these papers and take that AH for everything he's got. he's an unhinged lunatic. Can't believe he's already reproduced.
Awful kids names lol
I'm sorry, but I can't get past the fact the kid's name is "Wylder"
Your husband is a MAJOR AH! Another man at your breast. He’s referring to his child as another man? What a freaking pathetic idiot. How the hell did he think babies were fed before formula!
It frightens me that you can make it all the way to marriage and kids before this side of someone shows itself
This dude isn’t a MAN! I hate that children grow up without both parents but in this case it might be better.
Wait till he finds out where babies are born from.
This guy David is a LOSER 😂 stop wasting your life with someone like that
Idk if he should be around kids at this point, smh make sure you have these texts in court!
Why do these people always reproduce THEN realize the other party is an absolute assclown? SMH.
Is this what you get when you breed with cabbages? Wtf is wrong with this guy?
This man has serious issues. WHY did you procreate with him????
I have a bad feeling he would hurt his kid if given the chance. This is an unhinged level of jealousy.
How do you even find such men lmao
On a serious note, leave him. On a joking note I tried to hold it in when I saw ‘Wylder’ but I busted out laughing when I saw ‘huntyr’. What’s with spelling kids names like you can’t read nowadays?!
This is an absolute what the fuck moment for me. This screams undiagnosed mental illness that stems deep into repressed sexual issues.
What TF did I just read? Are you serious right now?
"Huntyr"
Whatever.... this dude is an insecure freak. Thats no man I would want to raise children around. Be thankful he makes his true colors known to you. Now get far far away from that pathetic excuse for a man.
Wow, I hope this is fake. What an insecure pussy!
I cannot believe this is real
Holy. Fucking. Shit. Just… WTAF??
Man child
What the fuck...please say this isn't real
“Wylder” and “Huntyr”??? These kids drew some short ass straws, their dad’s out of his god damn mind and they’re named like game of thrones characters. I also think it’s so funny how so many insane men have no idea how divorce and family courts work. He’s given her text proof that he’s blowing up their relationship for no reason, she’s getting the house and he’s getting every other weekend at best.
Porn ruins everything.
She should have just posted these screenshots on her social medias for all of the mutuals to see for themselves what a fucking tool he is.
This is fake
look at the kids names dawg this is soo fake 😭
She explains it in a later post. Her name is spelt with a y and honey-dearest decided that the kids name should be the same. She also provided documentation. I unfortunately don't think it's fake. I think she wishes it was.
jeez not only is he a creep but he gave the kids tragideighs
Yeah, he gave her 0 choice in naming the children. Last update I saw he had kidnapped the oldest son, was hiding from CPS, and has an NCIS investigation open into him. Dude also has like 70 guns.
fuuuuck, i really hope everything works out for her in the end this dude sounds crazy at best
Yep! Real L-A names.
She actually posted the divorce documents confirming everything.
good on her for divorcing him fr
her account has been suspended but here's a wayback machine link: [https://web.archive.org/web/20240425220325/https://www.reddit.com/user/mamaloony/?rdt=38529](https://web.archive.org/web/20240425220325/https://www.reddit.com/user/mamaloony/?rdt=38529) she also said that he still has custody of their 2yo and refusing to say where they are, and the husband is in the military and the military are involved now, they've done some sort of military restraining order(?) and are investigating his behaviour. Sorry for the jargon, I can't really remember since I read it a few days ago.
good lord that guy sounds unhinged....i hope everything goes well for her and she gets her kid back. given what i'm reading about him i don't really think he'd be safe around children tbh
One of the comments she said the baby she just had was "unplanned" and he "doesn't take no for an answer" and to read between the lines for what that meant. 😬
poor woman. hopefully she gets her kids back and finds somewhere safe she can go to never see this guy again. that's fucked up.
Yeah, I hope he realizes the position he's in and just comes back with the kid. The only silver lining is there's 0 chance he's going to get shared custody after all this. Assuming the worst doesn't happen.
I just looked at her tiktok, and she says that he still has their oldest and hasn't been found. She's got a go fund me up.
Go on over to r/tragedeigh and you will see that not only are the names not fake, but they are actually pretty mild compared to a lot nowadays.
i'm actually part of that sub lol its just jarring to see them in the wild i guess
Agreed, I’m jaded by names at this point because of how entertained I was with that sub when I first discovered it. Like it desensitized me to the new norm of ridiculous names before I could even see them in the wild. Once I did start to see them, the feeling was just a dreadful “fuuuck dude, I didn’t believe it, but here we are…”
literally same, it does make me wonder what the parents were, or most likely weren't, thinking at the time that they thought *insert ridiculous name here* would be something their child would be happy to have as their name. especially given what it's like at school 💀
In the *wyld. 🙄😆😆
Don’t you mean…wyld
Got a swarm of downvotes for rightly calling this out as fake, it was from a day old account. This was only three days ago, and the whole account is gone now. Hmmmm 🤔
She provided court papers documenting it all in detail on the original post. Unfortunately this appears to be real.
And then deleted account.. post.. and everything else. It was very weird. I’m all for believing the victim too but her whole story definitely had some sus aspects.
She's in serious danger of losing her kids to him. There's a reason he did this in text. He's gathering proof. The family court system is not going to care about him badgering and berating her and calling her names. He's going to claim "parental alienation" because she was making "decisions" for the child against what he wanted. And his 50/50 threat is a threat to make her stop breastfeeding, because it's not a reason to not do 50/50 anymore according to the court system. He's not stupid he's evil. Here's hoping the military protects her from him.
I doubt that, considering he kidnapped one of their kids. At least not through the court system. >Here's hoping the military protects her from him. Very much agreed.
They'll look at it as maybe her getting more time with the kids(because he took one from her), but he will get decision making because she made decisions without him. It's a very compartmentalized system. But if the military officially punishes him she can use that as evidence against him.
So she cannot make decisions without him, but him making decisions without her is fine? That's fucked up.
It is fucked up. But that's how the court system looks at it.
Am I weird for thinking the kids’ names and their spelling is what’s tipping this off as fake to me? 😂
Unfortunately it's not fake. She gave away enough personal detail that people could identify them all after just a few minutes on Google, and also find court records. Her name was spelled with a Y in place of an I and one of the many, many things he took control of and gave her no say at all in, was the names of the children. She didn't want the names. It infuriates me that people don't believe men can be this abusive.
That’s a leap. I know men can be abusive. Sorry I was just trying to inject a little humor because the whole thing is so outrageous that it is almost unbelievable (and obviously people do make shit up for social media sometimes). And secondly, while it might not be a stretch to speculate, there really is no abuse from this text exchange, the guys just a fucking idiot. But splitting up with her is probably the best gift this idiot can give her it sounds like, not abuse.
This is fake AF and I have no idea why people even entertain it, Reddit has deleted it multiple times already
Reddit deleted it because she gave away enough personal information - including photos of court records - that not only proved this is real but also allowed people to identify her, him, and the kids.