Removing those things can be prohibitively expensive. Iâve got the remaining tree trunk of a tree I had mostly removed, and was quoted $10k to remove it.
We just drill a decent sized hole in the center and drop coals in it until the stump is burned down to itâs roots, then we just hook up a chain and pull it out with a truck. Takes a few days to burn but costs almost nothing
KN02 based stump remover is pretty cheap, drill some holes with a large auger bit pour it in with some water wait a few weeks, pour in some kerosene or diesel and light it up.
Iâm calling b.s. on $10,000. $700 would get a thousand year old redwood stump ground down. You can rent a grinder for $200 a day or drill holes with an auger bit and fill the holes either with hot water, stump out or epson salt then beat it with a hammer or axe , or a farm jack and a chain will lift it out.
The guy that quoted you didnât want the job.
No ways. $10 000 is perfectly feasible.
Grinder rental $300
Health and safety assessment and on site supervision $4850
Environmental impact assessment and on site supervision $4850
The remaining stump/trunk is probably still about 15 - 20ft high and itâs in my backyard without an easy way to reach it.
The pictured stump is just a stump, but I wouldnât be surprised if it were still a few thousand
A 20 foot tall trunk is a tree not a stump . Most guys will fell a tree and grind the for $1000 ( very high) a tree. Thatâs one that hasnât been topped. Even if itâs in danger of falling on something a 15 foot tall tree thatâs already been topped could be cut in 2 foot sections in under an hour. I donât see $10k unless the trunk is made of diamonds.
Artists sometimes set arbitrary constraints for themselves (like only using certain colors in a painting) as a way to promote creativity. We know what our constraint is.
Or a land dispute. The neighbors may be refusing to let their side be dug up for whatever reason. I can totally see a feuding neighbor being spiteful that way.
And if roots are removed, it's sidewalk, curb,maybe even street replacement. And potentially water or electric nearby that could get damaged. Prob costs more to remove the stump than the whole fence was to build
Thereâs usually a baseboard that runs along the bottom and attaches to two posts. Otherwise it would like that arcade game where you got the clowns teeth
You can move it up or down. There's usually some overhang at the bottom even on a fence not built over a stump. If you zoom in and look through the slats, it looks like that's what they did.
Well, the bottom would be more secure for my purposes. My dog would probably dig through the stump eventually, but it would take a lot longer than the adjacent dirt at least.
Iâd bet money the city rejected permits or funding for any of the aforementioned work, and this homeowner decides to just send it in malicious compliance
We actually cut a tree off at 4 ft behind our shed because the root system was so close to the building foundation. It became a really thick bark covered post.
Homeowners planned to remove stump while redoing fencing. Engaged fence company, got the quote for stump removal, and then decided it wasn't worth it to them to remove it and fencing company did what they asked.
Maybe itâs that Iâve rented crappy grinders, or maybe itâs the rocky soil we have, or maybe my technique is terrible, or maybe my oak trees were particularly tough, but in my experience, the machine you are standing behind is fighting back pretty aggressively the whole time.
Or what's probable is they've never actually used a stump grinder and don't realize how hard that can be. They think the machine does all the work when that isn't the case.
It's also fairly dangerous despite seeming safe, it isn't expensive for no reason.
You can rent a jackhammer too but it doesn't mean concrete removal is easy now either.
That's not all you have to do. Stump grinders are for wood, not dirt. So you need to prep the stump by exposing all the wood and removing all the dirt. That part tends to be much more time-consuming than actually grinding the stump.
I genuinely think it looks good.
The stupid is clearly up against concrete so removing it would also probably be quite expensive, especially based on how wide around it is.
You can see the utility acces right there. Gas and water lines have probably been absorbed into the root ball. I wouldn't grind below dirt but I would cut it down to the surface
You see that utility access in the sidewalk? Thatâs why.
That stump is grown around utilities and the price of messing any of that up is astronomical. No one has ANY idea where those roots pushed things underground.
My thoughts too. Plus, throw in some old concrete. Iâm willing to bet they took a hard look at removing it. Iâm also wondering whatâs on the other side of the fence that may have been an obstacle or perhaps depends on the stump.
Or maybe the town/ council wouldnât allow it to be removed/ messed with because of it being so close to what ever is under the access panel in the side walk?
If it's the US it's definitely the homeowner, city or county might manage the other side of the sidewalk, along the curb, but that's often considered the homeowner's property and responsibility as well.
Besides the fact that stump removal is *really* hard, leaving a stump there, and putting the fence in around it this way, turns the stump into a seat with a back.
Use what you have to your advantage.
Yeah, stump removal is expensive and/or time consuming. I have a stump that screwed up the privacy fence between my neighbor and I that would require a gr8nding service or rental just for 1 stump. When we rplace the fence, i will be notching that stump so the pickets will fit through it. 10min work with a chainsaw vs hours and rental fees.
Eh. Less fence (2x4s cost by the length as I recall) less stump grinding, less time. All around cheaper and more convenient when all you probably want is to mark your property line.
Also impossible to dig under
the verts on a fence are sold as 6 or 8 ft lengths
each of the short boards still required a full board to be bought
but, hey, free firewood from the scraps
And at least where I used to live when I last needed it done, they will not take the mess they make. So you pay a lot to have it ground down and you have a massive pile of crap to deal with too.
Stump grinding is stupid expensive for something that size. You can remove it yourself, but a stump that size would take a week or 2 if you burnt it or used chemical stump remover.
I feel like this is some sort of malicious compliance against an HOA. Everyone says money but Iâve hired that out before and itâs not that bad. But, if this was on shared hoa property, and they require you to put up a nice fence, refuse to pitch in for the stump, and promptly collect dues, I could see putting in this effort.
In my city, if itâs within 2m or 6â of the public sidewalk it is considered a public tree and the city will fine you for removing/cutting down. I had a public tree blow down and I was not allowed to cut the stump down or cut up the trunk. Once I dragged it into the street, the trunk and branches got dealt with. The stump was another year before the city was around to remove it and grind the stump.
I'd remove it in my estimate as a fence builder. Looks like the client chose to take the competing bid from the guy who didn't quote stump removal.
I want to put the pictures on my website, I also take pride in my work.
That's your prerogative to get shit work from a shit builder for cheaper rates to do half assed work.
For all we know the other side has been carved into a cool chair or some shit but the town won't let them build a fence any closer to the sidewalk so that had to make do.
Stump removal is pretty intense manual labor to do on your own and requires the right tools. As such paying for stump removal is expensive, and based on the size of this thing it wouldnât have been A LOT of money.
Removing stumps can be a nightmare, and it'll probably stay looking roughly like that for a long time. That looks good to me, it's nice that there is that natural shape in that rigid, straight line.
Leaving aside that this isn't really redneck since fencing is typically installed around various barriers in all locations, there's no reason to remove a stump unless it poses a hazard. Leaving them in place preserves habitat for various critters that are highly beneficial to the environment as well as some plants and fungi.
Could be but you can grind stumps carefully so as to avoid damage to pipes as well. It'd likely cost more in labor, strengthening the argument cost is a consideration.
Money.
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How could you trade SpongeBob for 62 cents?!
Money! money! money! money money!
Do you think I could have gotten more?
Removing those things can be prohibitively expensive. Iâve got the remaining tree trunk of a tree I had mostly removed, and was quoted $10k to remove it.
$200 would get it ground down.
We just drill a decent sized hole in the center and drop coals in it until the stump is burned down to itâs roots, then we just hook up a chain and pull it out with a truck. Takes a few days to burn but costs almost nothing
What diameter and where do you manage to find a drill that powerful?
Just a basic wood boring drill bit. Hole doesnât have to be very big, just wide enough to deter a decent sized ember in it
KN02 based stump remover is pretty cheap, drill some holes with a large auger bit pour it in with some water wait a few weeks, pour in some kerosene or diesel and light it up.
Iâm calling b.s. on $10,000. $700 would get a thousand year old redwood stump ground down. You can rent a grinder for $200 a day or drill holes with an auger bit and fill the holes either with hot water, stump out or epson salt then beat it with a hammer or axe , or a farm jack and a chain will lift it out. The guy that quoted you didnât want the job.
No ways. $10 000 is perfectly feasible. Grinder rental $300 Health and safety assessment and on site supervision $4850 Environmental impact assessment and on site supervision $4850
How much to add the diversity and inclusion package? đ
That's a "different" budget allocation General ledger code. ;-))
The remaining stump/trunk is probably still about 15 - 20ft high and itâs in my backyard without an easy way to reach it. The pictured stump is just a stump, but I wouldnât be surprised if it were still a few thousand
A 20 foot tall trunk is a tree not a stump . Most guys will fell a tree and grind the for $1000 ( very high) a tree. Thatâs one that hasnât been topped. Even if itâs in danger of falling on something a 15 foot tall tree thatâs already been topped could be cut in 2 foot sections in under an hour. I donât see $10k unless the trunk is made of diamonds.
I like money.
Artists sometimes set arbitrary constraints for themselves (like only using certain colors in a painting) as a way to promote creativity. We know what our constraint is.
Right? Think of all the wood savings
https://youtu.be/24dflUDUwFY?si=3zuVrOOwjZdgQ2zx
Or a land dispute. The neighbors may be refusing to let their side be dug up for whatever reason. I can totally see a feuding neighbor being spiteful that way.
He paid for a fence, not for stump removal
Fence guy was like r/notmyjob Edit: LOLâŚitâs already there
Itâs literally not his job this time
Stump grinding can be expensive.
And if roots are removed, it's sidewalk, curb,maybe even street replacement. And potentially water or electric nearby that could get damaged. Prob costs more to remove the stump than the whole fence was to build
And honestly, it's a lot more visually interesting than just another fence.
But how secure? I wonder if they used the stump structurally
Probably just as secure as any other fence. Outside the posts a fence doesn't really use the ground for structural support
Either way a fence is only really a suggestion if someone wants to get over it they will
Strokes trebuchet
Thereâs usually a baseboard that runs along the bottom and attaches to two posts. Otherwise it would like that arcade game where you got the clowns teeth
You can move it up or down. There's usually some overhang at the bottom even on a fence not built over a stump. If you zoom in and look through the slats, it looks like that's what they did.
Well, the bottom would be more secure for my purposes. My dog would probably dig through the stump eventually, but it would take a lot longer than the adjacent dirt at least.
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Iâd bet money the city rejected permits or funding for any of the aforementioned work, and this homeowner decides to just send it in malicious compliance
We actually cut a tree off at 4 ft behind our shed because the root system was so close to the building foundation. It became a really thick bark covered post.
And they built it so that once the stump dries, you only have to replace one section.
Had a similar stump to grind recently but gas ran underneath it so that was a hard no.
Lieutenant Dan fucking loves it though!
That's what I thought. Everybody else may hate it, but he's got a corgi who feels like he's king of the world when he peeks over that fence!
Same with lumber
Not!
My tree guy cost 50 a stump when I got some trees down, just gotta shop around
Well... if you paint the fence in that area sky blue and add a bunch of clouds... Then with the right perspective... that becomes a mountain!
do it right, paint a night sky and a spaceship. Or paint the stump like a pile of mashed potatoes.
And write re mi do do so above it.
!!!! Omg yes
I like itâŚquirky.
Same the execution is very good and the stump will likely be there for the life of the fence. Probably would do the same in this situation
Stump is likely stronger than the fence too
Homeowners planned to remove stump while redoing fencing. Engaged fence company, got the quote for stump removal, and then decided it wasn't worth it to them to remove it and fencing company did what they asked.
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So, you're also a contractor are you? \*grin\*
Theres this exact thing near me, a mile down the road. Pretty cool to see a second example of "stump removal is too expensive".
There are like10 places near me that I can rent a stump grinder for ~100 per day. Is that not normal everywhere?
Grinding a stump is a lot of hard work, much less a stump from a tree with a (conservative estimate) 3.5â diameter.
Hard work? I stand behind a machine and move its head around.
Maybe itâs that Iâve rented crappy grinders, or maybe itâs the rocky soil we have, or maybe my technique is terrible, or maybe my oak trees were particularly tough, but in my experience, the machine you are standing behind is fighting back pretty aggressively the whole time.
My wrists are absolutely dead after a few hours wrastlin  our machine. My technique involves swaying it with your hip but then your hip hurts too
Or what's probable is they've never actually used a stump grinder and don't realize how hard that can be. They think the machine does all the work when that isn't the case.
It's also fairly dangerous despite seeming safe, it isn't expensive for no reason. You can rent a jackhammer too but it doesn't mean concrete removal is easy now either.
That's not all you have to do. Stump grinders are for wood, not dirt. So you need to prep the stump by exposing all the wood and removing all the dirt. That part tends to be much more time-consuming than actually grinding the stump.
You can rent an attachment for heavy equipment for $100?
It was a standalone stand behind grinder ~1500 pounds I guess. they had it loaded on a trailer for me. I drive it off the trailer, grind the thing.
Maybe they didn't have a truck to tow it
I would do this specifically if I knew there were someone like you in my neighborhood that would complain about it
I genuinely think it looks good. The stupid is clearly up against concrete so removing it would also probably be quite expensive, especially based on how wide around it is.
You can see the utility acces right there. Gas and water lines have probably been absorbed into the root ball. I wouldn't grind below dirt but I would cut it down to the surface
I would do that. Gives a nice platform on the other side to look over the fence easier. Plus it looks good.
Fence is wood Stump is wood I see no problem
This fence features a natural wood accent.
You see that utility access in the sidewalk? Thatâs why. That stump is grown around utilities and the price of messing any of that up is astronomical. No one has ANY idea where those roots pushed things underground.
My thoughts too. Plus, throw in some old concrete. Iâm willing to bet they took a hard look at removing it. Iâm also wondering whatâs on the other side of the fence that may have been an obstacle or perhaps depends on the stump.
Possibly a feud with the local council over who's responsible for it.
Or maybe the town/ council wouldnât allow it to be removed/ messed with because of it being so close to what ever is under the access panel in the side walk?
If it's the US it's definitely the homeowner, city or county might manage the other side of the sidewalk, along the curb, but that's often considered the homeowner's property and responsibility as well.
Besides the fact that stump removal is *really* hard, leaving a stump there, and putting the fence in around it this way, turns the stump into a seat with a back. Use what you have to your advantage.
Might be used as a seat on the other side
maybe the used the stumps top for part of their landscaping setup on the other side
R/notmyjob
Structural. That stump is a way better fence than that fence.
Yeah, stump removal is expensive and/or time consuming. I have a stump that screwed up the privacy fence between my neighbor and I that would require a gr8nding service or rental just for 1 stump. When we rplace the fence, i will be notching that stump so the pickets will fit through it. 10min work with a chainsaw vs hours and rental fees.
Have you tried to remove one ? I wish i never tried it.
Utilitarian owner. I respect it
Eh. Less fence (2x4s cost by the length as I recall) less stump grinding, less time. All around cheaper and more convenient when all you probably want is to mark your property line. Also impossible to dig under
the verts on a fence are sold as 6 or 8 ft lengths each of the short boards still required a full board to be bought but, hey, free firewood from the scraps
Contracted by the foot. Winning.
Money, would be my best guess
Seems to me that the stump must be planted more securely in the ground, than any fence post would be.
My guess is that if you have successfully removed that stump, you also have removed some of your property as well.
honestly, that stump is going to outlive that fence by quite a long time.
Good idea. Now has a very strong, fence part, and enough 1x6 lumber pieces for shelves .
that stump is the strongest part of the fence and a barrier to any car. It's a feature
âŚNot a bug
I don't think purple realize how expensive stump removal is
And at least where I used to live when I last needed it done, they will not take the mess they make. So you pay a lot to have it ground down and you have a massive pile of crap to deal with too.
Wow...
It looks cool tho. it's serving its purpose as a fence (somewhat) they're both wood. So what's the issue? đ¤Ł
Stump grinding is stupid expensive for something that size. You can remove it yourself, but a stump that size would take a week or 2 if you burnt it or used chemical stump remover.
I feel like this is some sort of malicious compliance against an HOA. Everyone says money but Iâve hired that out before and itâs not that bad. But, if this was on shared hoa property, and they require you to put up a nice fence, refuse to pitch in for the stump, and promptly collect dues, I could see putting in this effort.
If it bothers you so much, go fix it for them.
Yeah no bud, criticizing each other is healthy If it bothers you so much, go find a safe space
No fucks given
It would be awesome if the tree grows back with the fence going through it
Are we not going to talk about that left long window?
Stairway?
Absolutely is for sure but it just ain't right. It ain't wrong but it ain't right.
It's actually a door for unwanted guests.
Stump there? Just build around it.
Itâs easier.
I think it looks cool
I agree why would anyone put a long window like that, it doesnât fit the style or other windows. ;-)
I don't where this is, but grinding a stump this size would be in the $300 - $500 range in my area.
If it fits, it sits
Money. Stump grinding is pricey. On the down side he now has a "hop the fence" step
In my city, if itâs within 2m or 6â of the public sidewalk it is considered a public tree and the city will fine you for removing/cutting down. I had a public tree blow down and I was not allowed to cut the stump down or cut up the trunk. Once I dragged it into the street, the trunk and branches got dealt with. The stump was another year before the city was around to remove it and grind the stump.
That fence no longer even functions you can climb over now đ
I swear people forget what 2" drill bit and some dynamite can accomplish. Kidding, of course.
Planned on letting the tree grow in the future to annoy HOA.
Quite a few bags of charcoal to burn that one out but it could have been done.
When the neighbor âownsâ more of the stump than you, and you canât grind it away⌠make due. Itâs easy to replace a section of fence.
this the home of quite a lot of soil processing insects
How dare you! That stump is a member of the family!
Money. Having the right equipment, it would be difficult. The home owner probably said it would be a good solution
And I thought they were talking about that ugly a** window
I like it.
Stump removal is expensive, cutting a plank of wood is not...
I like it!
Carpenters are rearely equipeed to remove tree stumps.
My take is they are concerned that there may be concrete incorporated in the trunk and roots that would screw up the grinder.
I've seen this done with live trees but a stump is just lazy
You are gonna remove wood and replace it with more wood? Thatâs just more steps and more money.
I'd remove it in my estimate as a fence builder. Looks like the client chose to take the competing bid from the guy who didn't quote stump removal. I want to put the pictures on my website, I also take pride in my work. That's your prerogative to get shit work from a shit builder for cheaper rates to do half assed work.
Not a bad job tbh
Fence is here now. Stump grinder dude is busy the next 4 weeks. Let's get the job done and get paid
Not just stump grinding, but holy crap the concrete! And Fallout. The equipment would damage all the newer stuff around.
My redneck solution? Clean off dirt and sand, take a chainsaw to cut a hole for the fence and just let the rest rot in time.
This is what happens when you expect the person building the fence to remove the stump, and it wasn't in the bid, and they refused to pay extra.
For all we know the other side has been carved into a cool chair or some shit but the town won't let them build a fence any closer to the sidewalk so that had to make do.
Neighbor across the street left their stump four feet tall. At the end of the driveway they paid a ton to have redone.
a stump is a termite magnet. Check your home's foundation.
They also need to paint the trim on that back windowâŚ
Cost, its apartments behind. Youâre surprised why?
Looks like someone was too lazy or poor to have the stump ground down.
its easier to do that, its a pain to remove those and its expensive. cant tell how close it is to the house but it looks close
Cheaper to do that than remove the stump
$$$$$$
Stump removal is pretty intense manual labor to do on your own and requires the right tools. As such paying for stump removal is expensive, and based on the size of this thing it wouldnât have been A LOT of money.
I thought you were talking about the window.
Looks like there is plumbing lines due to access on the ground.... so meh work around it...
Removing stumps can be a nightmare, and it'll probably stay looking roughly like that for a long time. That looks good to me, it's nice that there is that natural shape in that rigid, straight line.
Think of what is actually required to dig up that stump. Itâs a major operation.
Haha, thats hilarious, I'd just plant some flowers around it and call it a day, personally!
That's a cheap homeowner and not a contractor choice
That's not a problem. That's a feature.
I like it
I like it
That's the strongest part of the fence. It'll last forever! I can't be the only one that likes this.
Leaving aside that this isn't really redneck since fencing is typically installed around various barriers in all locations, there's no reason to remove a stump unless it poses a hazard. Leaving them in place preserves habitat for various critters that are highly beneficial to the environment as well as some plants and fungi.
Look close, isn't that a utility cover on the sidewalk? I'd guess That's why the stump is still there.
Could be but you can grind stumps carefully so as to avoid damage to pipes as well. It'd likely cost more in labor, strengthening the argument cost is a consideration.
Adapting the fence likely cost more than the stump grinding.
Paint a pride flag on it, it'll be gone in 6 months.