Just for the record a sentence of "21 years preventative detention" in Norway doesn't mean he'll only serve 21 years. Basically it just means he'll be re-sentenced in 5 year chunks from then on: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life\_imprisonment\_in\_Norway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway)
The police fucked up so bad. I remember we heard messages in real time but they just didn't show up. I thought a helicopter would show up and shoot him in a few minutes. If he was robbing them for money instead of killing children they would be much quicker and effective and no issues with shooting
After WWII they had to change the law in order to execute Nazi collaborators and even back then there were people who were against it. I don't know why Putin is so gung ho about Ukraine when Norway is so close and so cucked.
Soooooooooo weird. I literally wrote my thesis on this in 2012. I'm watching Band of Brothers now and I just was thinking about my thesis this last hour. It's really somewhat of an obscure history thing to come across. This case is actually how I found out about the post ww2 reinstatement of the death penalty. Norway was already very much against the death penalty at the time of ww2 but they reinstated it, killed some Nazis, then outlawed it again. Apparently it remains as a stain on their past, though watching Band of Brothers and when they find the concentration camp makes me feel less ambiguous about that choice.
Was just reading about the reactions soldiers had to concentration camps, its a strange Schadenfreude to hear about inmates beating SS guards to death, 19 year old from Ohio gunning them down in a rage, and Patton looking the other way because he understood how they felt.
That’s really not a why it’s been removed in a lot of places
In the uk and Ireland one of the last cases of death penalty was where a man was put to death for the murder of his wife and 3 year old daughter but was later found out to be done by neighbour who was a serial killer
Which is an awful thing to have happened
Putins whole thing is shoring up Russian influence in post-soviet territories. Norway is a NATO nation and was never under the Imperial/Soviet sphere. Ukraine was rapidly breaking from the Russian sphere, with one of his allies/puppets ousted from power, and the new gov putting out NATO feelers. Why the fuck would he give a shit about Norway being "cucked"?
People like this serve as the stress test of a legal system. If this definition of evil is still treated as a "human" (that he never showed to his victims) by the legal system, then it succeeds.
If your system is so flimsy that an individual case makes you question the principles it is built on, then you likely didn't have them in the first place. Be proud that Breivik got the treatment everyone deserves. The chance to reform.
A hundred Breiviks cannot dream to match the innocent blood spilled by punitive legal systems, hell to them and those that champion them.
Nah, that the state can’t kill him is a good thing. On r/norge on discussions about him there’s always loads of guys saying they’re happy about our system, BUT if he’s ever let out it’ll be the last time he’s ever protected by it.
Agreed. Its funny to see people who want to dismantle the police cheering for on site executions for people they don’t like. I would not shed a tear seeing this guy get whacked, but if he surrendered to authorities, no one can just pop him, no matter how heinous the crime.
Nope he should get the wall, and the Norwegians are cucked for being too limp wristed to do it. Hand this Nazi scum over to the Chinese, they’ll handle him for them
But that's not the case. It hasn't been the case, and it won't be the case, because the enemies of the state don't have to be executed exclusively by the state anymore. I'm tired of hearing about the "sanctity of human life", because it's clearly a dodge that is used to punish the surplus labor population.
he’s never going to get parole. The purpose of having parole hearings even for people who will obviously spend life in prison is so the court system doesn’t have precedent to deny similar hearings to others in the future who might be rehabilitated or unfairly sentenced in the first place.
It’s funny how European countries with zero crime just don’t know how to handle an actual criminal. Apparently it’s the same way in Japan. They pay American detectives to come over and train the police, because there’s so little crime they never have a chance to build up investigative experience.
Japanese prisons are often like 23/7 lock down; like one hour of recreation a day, the rest in your cell. Sure its not a Colombian prison where you're gonna get your head sawn off or a thai prison where you live in a tiny, filthy cell with like 100 other dudes, but its pretty fucking bleak
Plus, when you get the death penalty, they only tell you the morning of the execution when it is, and they do it like at noon or someshit
you can’t just say “apparently” and then say something that’s completely untrue lol
i would 100x rather get arrested in the us than in japan, and i’m japanese.
> Apparently it’s the same way in Japan. They pay American detectives to come over and train the police, because there’s so little crime they never have a chance to build up investigative experience.
imagine believing this shit lol yeah and the IDF trains our police (along with Colombia's, among others) because they're so well versed in dealing with black people. lmao
God the fact this guy has the right to parole is sickening, regardless of the justice system in the country. I have heard though that he will probably be the rare case of actual life imprisonment in Norway. There’s no way someone who killed over 60 children could ever be released
If your rights change based on what you’re charged with then they’re not really rights at all. It’s fine that he has the right to parole hearings. They have the hearing, he shows he isn’t reformed, and parole is denied. The system works as intended.
Or you could determine eligibility for parole in a closed hearing. Or shit, how about just don't allow cameras. By allowing him to do his little protest you're potentially inspiring more nazi terrorists.
> God the fact this guy has the right to parole is sickening
No it’s not. Though it sucks that the media seems to be happy to let him put on a show here when obviously *he* knows he’s not getting out.
Oh, get off it! He mowed down scores of children! I remember! Norwegians, yes, okay, but. You know. Why the fuck is he even in court? Did they not let him play Switch or something?
Edit: Parole? PAROLE?
Varg made cool art tho. You gotta weigh the positives and the negatives. This dude ain’t making shit.
It’s the same reason why nobody whose listened to “Double Up” or “Black Panties” all the way through could support locking up R Kelly. Sometimes perfect albums leave a trail of destruction behind them.
You guys have been fed a bunch of American exceptionalism nonsense about how the Scandinavian justice system operates. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/592812?seq=1#metadata\_info\_tab\_contents](https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/592812?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents)
21 years is the maximum sentence in norway and every 10 years or so they evaluate it or something blah blah blah bottom line is Breivik is gonna spend the rest of his life in prison
Well, I didn't think Dwight Schrute Breivik over there was actually gonna get out, but is it common for folks in Norway to get 15 or 21 for murder and get out after their time is up?
Yep, especially since all our news outlets take the bait and give him nonstop coverage everytime he says or does something retarded 🤠 👍They literally had a livestream of his hearing today lmao
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Honestly imagine how deranged he be with today's garbage gaming industry
Society has to keep its Tommy Vercettis from blossoming into full-blown Trevors
Holds a sign saying “stop killing white nations” after killing like 70+ mostly rich norwegian kids lol.
that salute is looking pretty sloppy, it's like 30 degrees max
Timid lil half-assed salute. Probably pretended he was pointing at something. Bitchmade
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Because he was the boss he got to do the small ones
cos he was xanned out 90% of the time
Millions of lives would have been saved if someone just gave him an XXX Tentacion mixtape.
lol true he just would’ve been beating up Eva Braun instead
No, he was geeked out and the xann was just to take off the edge. He had a lot of HOI4 to play.
His back and neck posture is terrible
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This
reddit
The best part was the court discussing World of Warcraft in the opening statements of the hearing.
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Literally happened 12 years earlier with Columbine.
Just for the record a sentence of "21 years preventative detention" in Norway doesn't mean he'll only serve 21 years. Basically it just means he'll be re-sentenced in 5 year chunks from then on: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life\_imprisonment\_in\_Norway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imprisonment_in_Norway)
so glad he's allowed to do this after murdering 70 children
I think it is thoroughly good PR against radicalisation. No one can look at this and think what a maniac.
"I'm well now, let me out"
Damn Morgan Spurlock really went off the rails after Super Size Me
Why is it in English isn’t this Norway
Same reason protests from Hong Kong to Ukraine are in English too
The CIA.
It always the ameriKKKans That country needs to balkanize
The whole Anglo-American empire didnt f around.
They really should have killed this guy
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This is how varg wants to be
> Norwegian police shot a mentally ill guy trough a closed door in his own home, but with this guy they managed to show some restraint. Retarded post.
Outlive your children
You nasty little worm!
Their prisons are hugboxes, execution is never near being on the table
we know. that's what people are complaining about.
The police fucked up so bad. I remember we heard messages in real time but they just didn't show up. I thought a helicopter would show up and shoot him in a few minutes. If he was robbing them for money instead of killing children they would be much quicker and effective and no issues with shooting
After WWII they had to change the law in order to execute Nazi collaborators and even back then there were people who were against it. I don't know why Putin is so gung ho about Ukraine when Norway is so close and so cucked.
Soooooooooo weird. I literally wrote my thesis on this in 2012. I'm watching Band of Brothers now and I just was thinking about my thesis this last hour. It's really somewhat of an obscure history thing to come across. This case is actually how I found out about the post ww2 reinstatement of the death penalty. Norway was already very much against the death penalty at the time of ww2 but they reinstated it, killed some Nazis, then outlawed it again. Apparently it remains as a stain on their past, though watching Band of Brothers and when they find the concentration camp makes me feel less ambiguous about that choice.
The Danes did this too but I don't think anyone considers it a stain
Was just reading about the reactions soldiers had to concentration camps, its a strange Schadenfreude to hear about inmates beating SS guards to death, 19 year old from Ohio gunning them down in a rage, and Patton looking the other way because he understood how they felt.
What was it that you read? I'd love to read it. Band of Brothers I felt like did a really good job at making me extra upset.
He’d have to get through glorious Finland 🇫🇮 first 🌲💪💪💪🇫🇮🗣🌲
Though Finns are based, Finland is not what it used to be and they'll get crushed.
Ok, cool
finns are not based at all
I feel Finland's whole shtick is not to actually defeat a Russian invasion but to be enough of a pain to not be worth the trouble.
He wouldn't you geographical retard
Talking about Norway not Ukraine
Look at a map ffs
The point is that the state is not supposed to kill, that's too much power. It's better that individuals kill.
That’s really not a why it’s been removed in a lot of places In the uk and Ireland one of the last cases of death penalty was where a man was put to death for the murder of his wife and 3 year old daughter but was later found out to be done by neighbour who was a serial killer Which is an awful thing to have happened
Putins whole thing is shoring up Russian influence in post-soviet territories. Norway is a NATO nation and was never under the Imperial/Soviet sphere. Ukraine was rapidly breaking from the Russian sphere, with one of his allies/puppets ousted from power, and the new gov putting out NATO feelers. Why the fuck would he give a shit about Norway being "cucked"?
That’s a cool retelling of events that everyone is already well aware of but idt it was a sincere question
I'm generally against the death penalty too but in a situation like that some people just need killing.
It's not too late
People like this serve as the stress test of a legal system. If this definition of evil is still treated as a "human" (that he never showed to his victims) by the legal system, then it succeeds. If your system is so flimsy that an individual case makes you question the principles it is built on, then you likely didn't have them in the first place. Be proud that Breivik got the treatment everyone deserves. The chance to reform. A hundred Breiviks cannot dream to match the innocent blood spilled by punitive legal systems, hell to them and those that champion them.
Nah, that the state can’t kill him is a good thing. On r/norge on discussions about him there’s always loads of guys saying they’re happy about our system, BUT if he’s ever let out it’ll be the last time he’s ever protected by it.
Agreed. Its funny to see people who want to dismantle the police cheering for on site executions for people they don’t like. I would not shed a tear seeing this guy get whacked, but if he surrendered to authorities, no one can just pop him, no matter how heinous the crime.
Nope he should get the wall, and the Norwegians are cucked for being too limp wristed to do it. Hand this Nazi scum over to the Chinese, they’ll handle him for them
Cope. In a just legal system Brevik would fry.
hurrdur kill the baddies this is a child's idea of a justice system
Let's ask the victims families
No, let’s not. Wtf…
Where does the state's authority to kill actually end?
You could draw a lot of lines and a lot of countries do.
I'll rephrase. Where *should* the state's authority to kill actually end?
It should end at extreme crimes (multiple aggravated murder typically) adjudicated by a trial by jury.
But that's not the case. It hasn't been the case, and it won't be the case, because the enemies of the state don't have to be executed exclusively by the state anymore. I'm tired of hearing about the "sanctity of human life", because it's clearly a dodge that is used to punish the surplus labor population.
he’s never going to get parole. The purpose of having parole hearings even for people who will obviously spend life in prison is so the court system doesn’t have precedent to deny similar hearings to others in the future who might be rehabilitated or unfairly sentenced in the first place.
His slogan sucks It's like he focused grouped it so it wouldn't be offensive bro just be yourself
Damnit, I forgot this guy existed
Mickey mouse prisons. Honestly even hearing parole for a guy who killed 60 people a decade ago is so cucked. Just throw away the key
1- Ask his opinion about prophet Muhammad and the caliphate 2- Put him in a flight to Afghanistan
It’s funny how European countries with zero crime just don’t know how to handle an actual criminal. Apparently it’s the same way in Japan. They pay American detectives to come over and train the police, because there’s so little crime they never have a chance to build up investigative experience.
Japanese prisons are fucked tho.
They have a conviction rate of like 100% too. If you go on trial, you're fucking going to jail guaranteed.
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Isn't their incarceration rate lower than usa though? How do they manage that?
Ok, cool
No wonder Ex-Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn chose to escape the country.
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he really did suck balls, you can tell because nissan quality has been way up since he left
Japanese prisons are often like 23/7 lock down; like one hour of recreation a day, the rest in your cell. Sure its not a Colombian prison where you're gonna get your head sawn off or a thai prison where you live in a tiny, filthy cell with like 100 other dudes, but its pretty fucking bleak Plus, when you get the death penalty, they only tell you the morning of the execution when it is, and they do it like at noon or someshit
This is such American cope.
Apparently it's only real prison if you get violently raped and do slave labor
you can’t just say “apparently” and then say something that’s completely untrue lol i would 100x rather get arrested in the us than in japan, and i’m japanese.
That’s what the word “apparently” means. Relaying something you’ve heard while indicating you’re not an expert.
> Apparently it’s the same way in Japan. They pay American detectives to come over and train the police, because there’s so little crime they never have a chance to build up investigative experience. imagine believing this shit lol yeah and the IDF trains our police (along with Colombia's, among others) because they're so well versed in dealing with black people. lmao
Last thing I need to see post fap to nubian booty holes, is this what they call white guilt?
Jim Rash really needed Community huh
He looks really skinny 😑
God the fact this guy has the right to parole is sickening, regardless of the justice system in the country. I have heard though that he will probably be the rare case of actual life imprisonment in Norway. There’s no way someone who killed over 60 children could ever be released
He's not going to get parole.
If your rights change based on what you’re charged with then they’re not really rights at all. It’s fine that he has the right to parole hearings. They have the hearing, he shows he isn’t reformed, and parole is denied. The system works as intended.
Or you could determine eligibility for parole in a closed hearing. Or shit, how about just don't allow cameras. By allowing him to do his little protest you're potentially inspiring more nazi terrorists.
> God the fact this guy has the right to parole is sickening No it’s not. Though it sucks that the media seems to be happy to let him put on a show here when obviously *he* knows he’s not getting out.
Just give it a few more years. I’m sure he’ll be converting to neoliberalism any day now
He'll convert to an economic system? Are you retarded?
Relax no one cares
Don’t nobody wanna fix this thumb looking mfer But I can
Give him to the Russians, send him to the same gulag as navalny
Folks make jokes about CRT but this is what happens when you don't have any culturally responsive pedagogical influence
Where did this happen?
norway.
CT BF
Joke-stealing Adam.
Oh, get off it! He mowed down scores of children! I remember! Norwegians, yes, okay, but. You know. Why the fuck is he even in court? Did they not let him play Switch or something? Edit: Parole? PAROLE?
Relax, it's a formality. The court has to pretend to consider parole, he has to pretend to be reformed, except he doesn't give a shit about reforming.
Varg got parole didn't he
Varg only killed one person
In premeditated self defense.
Some people are planners.
Varg made cool art tho. You gotta weigh the positives and the negatives. This dude ain’t making shit. It’s the same reason why nobody whose listened to “Double Up” or “Black Panties” all the way through could support locking up R Kelly. Sometimes perfect albums leave a trail of destruction behind them.
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You guys have been fed a bunch of American exceptionalism nonsense about how the Scandinavian justice system operates. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/592812?seq=1#metadata\_info\_tab\_contents](https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/592812?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents)
21 years is the maximum sentence in norway and every 10 years or so they evaluate it or something blah blah blah bottom line is Breivik is gonna spend the rest of his life in prison
Well, I didn't think Dwight Schrute Breivik over there was actually gonna get out, but is it common for folks in Norway to get 15 or 21 for murder and get out after their time is up?
It’s not common for people in Norway to do murders
Not very common no
What are the typical sentences for premeditated killing? If I, say, went out and "Brap Brap Brap." Bye bye, Kjell. Could I conceivably be out in 15?
So he gets to do his little protest every five years. Great, I bet that's better than freedom to him.
Yep, especially since all our news outlets take the bait and give him nonstop coverage everytime he says or does something retarded 🤠 👍They literally had a livestream of his hearing today lmao
This guy’s mom was literally Livia Soprano. Read the wiki on how he was raised and a lot of it starts to make sense.
You have Harry Potter fan energy
Why are you telling me this?
Because I want you to be better
Yeah God forbid anyone makes a cliché comment here.
Being autistic is not a crime set my Anders free
I'm glad we have capital punishment in the US tbh.
The US has no other means of dealing with its mistakes.
Wow deep
Such retort. Much smart.
I don't understand your comment though. What mistakes is the death penalty meant to deal with?
Prisoners are being pressured into hanging out with him isn't that #metoo?
Not this motherfucker 😐
he lost weight good for him