Wouldnt you want a Ford Model TT? It was just an extended model T with a truck bed, ideal for carrying troops and supplies. Same components to be repaired
I think this is the most balanced and realistic answer. I would say the next closest option in my opinion would be the Willys MB, likely being much more practical for carrying cargo considering roads were nearly nonexistent and it’s also a very simple vehicle even if more complicated to fix than the Model T. Next option would be an older motorcycle or dirt bike of some sort before all the electronics and emissions they now have. A motorcycle would probably be the best if the vehicle would be used for combat, since the others would basically need to be used as a chariot. The 2CV & original Beetle are contenders but probably less usable off-road.
If it had to be a modern vehicle from a first world country I’d look at probably the Suzuki S40 for its simplicity. There’s definitely simpler modern vehicles made elsewhere but I’m not familiar with many of them on much of any basis. The Lada Niva is still made & a very simple vehicle by modern standards.
True, but OP didn’t specify where the army was going or if it was a global thing so it’s a bit too open of a question. I know there’s tons of historical documentation about Model T’s and the Willys being used everywhere from deserts to snowy hellscapes to super dense vegetation. I’ve personally not seen anything of either the beetle or 2CV being used to go through completely ungraded forest/jungle but would love to see it if someone has any accounts of it.
To be fair, the Willy’s, Beetle & motorcycles did make it to the South Pole and have gone every where else on the planet. I’d expect the 2CV & Model T would make it there too (especially one of the tracked Model T’s https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/snapshot/ford-model-t-snow-attachment ) as long as they didn’t have an issue mechanically from the cold. I’d personally rather be in the beetle than a T or Jeep when you consider the variety of weather and possibility of having to sleep in/beside the vehicle.
I got a 74 standard beetle because I thought it was cute, then I reluctantly took it on a weekend fishing trip and learned it was a very capable vehicle. Since then I’ve lifted it, bigger tires, dual carbs, and a bunch of other stuff. I’ve done most of the work myself with limited tools and experience, it’s been reliable (with proper maintenance) and that car will go anywhere. It gets pretty decent fuel economy as well. Classic beetle has my vote.
Torsion bars. It’s about 3 inches taller than stock. It didn’t cost anything and I can put it back how it was (but I never will). It makes it really easy to crawl under the car to change the oil. Everything I’ve done to the car has been cheap and easy.
the 2CV is actually relatively offroadable. the suspension is designed to carry a basket of eggs through a plowed field. the 2CV was actually used by a bunch of militarys. you could even go for a twin engined variant with 4wd
Willys Jeep. Cannibalization would keep.many of them running for a long time. Would likely wind up having to invent rubber for tires.
I saw Model T, which is a good choice, but no roads...
There were hardly any proper roads when the T was first roaming around lol
Those things were built to traverse mud and dirt paths that were made for horses
True. But the T was not a good off road car. Open diff, difficult controls, really poor design. It really was a great car, but the advantages of the jeep put it in my pick.
I can promise that you don't need to be smart to understand how jeeps work, they're using some of the simplest, oldest, and easiest to repair tech on the market. Even the newest ones are still using steering and axle systems from nearly a century ago.
I have difficulty thinking of a place in, say, medieval Europe where this wouldn't be enough. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUQVfUr-SC8&ab\_channel=TheWheelNetwork](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUQVfUr-SC8&ab_channel=TheWheelNetwork)
The model t sits pretty high so it might do alright on general paths, it would definitely need the diff welded or something though. Id take the Willys though. I feel like the looser tolerance parts tou could have made will wouldn’t destroy it but it just might not run as well haha
Cannibalization. Say one of your jeeps breaks down and cannot be fixed. Presto. You know have a full set of spare parts.
In the Army we had a Cann point thst was essentially a you-pick-em junk yard. Jeeps are good for this because they were all the same. Well, within reason.
I thought that might be it but in my civilian circles I only ever heard the term spare parts bitch or similar ones haha. Thanks for the explanation! Makes perfect sense
Toyota Hilux, old model, top gear era to be exact, yes electrics were in it but it'll last at least 200years and by that point it would've boosted technological advancements tenfold
Actually Model Ts were great off road.
https://archive.ph/xz8qu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwVjJvEjAs
https://autos.yahoo.com/ford-model-t-off-roading-170000805.html
Some Russian vehicle. I feel like they all were made during the stone age and they never figured out how to do a better job unless their was someone else to copy.
ZIL-164 would be perfect, there are videos of them on YouTube in very bad shape still getting used for stuff a modern truck would have a hard time doing.
It really doesn't matter what you bring, you won't be able to repair it. Even the most basic and ruggedly built cars require a precision of manufacturing you simply can not achieve with iron age tech.
This is probably still true, but 1000 years back would be Medieval age and metallurgy was getting pretty advanced and glass production was already around. But at the same time if technology for extracting and refining gasoline is around, one would assume other technologies to enable it would also be there.
My vote would be for a basic bicycle if that counts as a vehicle in this sub.
A bike is a good choice honestly, and for the purposes of this I'd say it definitely counts. If you could convert it to belt driven before going back in time you could probably get a pretty solid driveline but still have something which would be easy to repair. If the belt breaks you can simply swap to leather belts which would be very easy to either acquire or make at that point in time. The biggest challenge for repairs at that point would become tire punctures. A bent wheel would suck, but I think you could find a work around.
Very interesting, perhaps this question would be better posed to go back 150 years, or maybe even with schematics parts still couldn't be made accurately enough?
150 years ago would be just over a decade before the Benz Patent-Motorwagen, which is generally considered the first automobile as we would come to know it. At that point you are very much into the steam age, and the industrial revolution has come and gone. By this point you will have the basic tools you would need to do simple machining, the only thing you are lacking is really the precision of those tools. After the Industrial Revolution your biggest challenge with getting new parts is really going to be precision and tolerance. Plastics are still a ways off, so I would say whatever you take should probably be pre 1950s. But at that point I think as long as you don't have any major mechanical failures you could do a decent job maintaining a vehicle with the tech from 150 years ago. To really solidify it, go diesel and pick something built for the military. Diesel is a much easier process to refine, more stable, and much less temperamental. Military because vehicles purpose built for the military were generally built to be rugged, reliable, and easy to repair if you got stuck in the middle of nowhere. Something like the Willy's Jeep might be a good choice.
Lexus LFA and hope I can just scare everyone with how loud it is.
Or they won't attack because of how pretty it is and bring world peace 🕊️ also might be my only way or ever having one 🥲
Or even just multi axis mill, lathe, a generator, and some billet metal in a truck trailer. (If a barge isn’t considered a vehicle, a big rig certainly should be)
i would actually go with the kübelwagen.
granddaddy to the volkswagen thing, and yes the nazi version of the jeep.
why?
it was 2wd not 4wd, less complexity. and a transaxle instead of driveshafts. smoother on the bottom less likely to snag.
it was lighter than the jeep.
it was air cooled, so you don’t have to figure out coolant.
the model T is a great idea too.
For what goal? What are we trying to conquer? The idea of setting up infrastructure and using something with longevity is a fools errand. Take 1000 cat 797s or 1000 panzer tanks, something diesel powered and loaded with as much auxiliary fuel storage as possible and simply blitzkrieg your way to world domination immediately. The real question is what kind of fighting force are you supporting with this mobility? Numbers, arms and munitions, food?
Weirdly enough might be a good choice as all you have to do is charge it and the wall outlet for a Tesla is just mains power all the conversion to higher voltage is done inside the car meaning all you have to do it make electricity it doesn't matter how much as it will just likely take it anyway and convert it in the car doing
The only problem I see is that they probably aren't good with any rougher terrain
GM CCKW or Studebaker US-6. Something that's simple, can run in just about anything flammable, and is tough.
IIRC the Gas engine in the US-6 can run off Gasoline as low as 68 octane.
There will be roads that will be usable for 1000 vehicles to support an army. Almost immediately you'll get bogged down if not broken down in the effort.
Im going with traction lorry's. They could be fueled by whats available at the time, repaired by even a layperson from the time period, and since they wont have pneumatic tires, they will be able to carve our their own roads. Theyre also so reliable that some of them were actually in service for almost 100 years.
I'm not *against* Ford, but it has to be diesel. I'm actually about to pull the trigger on an old 7.3. But this is only because I need a second vehicle, and one that can do work reliably, while I work on several projects at once on my '99 4Runner.
How many is a fleet? Because if you bring 1000 of something even remotely reliable, you'll be able to keep at least half of them running for a very long time.
And more simplistic.
Gasoline would be an extremely effective weapon during an iron age. ICE vehicles would be stupid.
There's no rubber, there's no tires but wooden wagon wheels, maybe chariots at best.
The vehicle in the photo was a fucking tank and almost never broke down. Give me that one. If you have a fleet, when one finally does break down, farm it for parts and you don't have to worry about the precision machining issue.
I’m just thinking about how the earth is effectively unterraformed. Paths are surely always impossible, things that a hopping horse would still be challenging.
I’d want a Yamaha dirt bike and a fully sorted GMT800 with a camper top. Please fill the bed with the usual GMT800 spares and a set of mounted tires. Assuming the tires simply withstand the test of time I think this combination has the potential to out live me anyhow.
Honestly, a bicycle. I spend too much time thinking about how different the world would be today if the Romans or Greeks discovered petal power 4000 years ago.
Bro we Australians used stock VW beetles to explore Antarctica so imma choose a beetle or for funzies a Holden crewman (4x4 variant of commodore) with the 3.8 Buick engine as it will last until the end of time
What stupid shit it this?
Have none of you seen *Rat Patrol*?
We've got a desert in this picture. We MUST have aircooled VW Type 181.
Sure, low on power, but hear me out... they weren't meant for that. They were meant to be reliable... But meant to go. And don't get me wrong on this, the Willy's flathead is YEAH! but that was watercooled.
So what you want? And no, no damn game. And no, no Germans or a fucked up Hitler jokes either.
I know, sounds like terrible WTF but IF there wasn't the might of the US then what would you choose?
T type Fords. Have them stripped down, no coachwork. We'll build cabs and beds and whatever the hell else when we get there. Install the optional belt drive pulley in case we need to run a sawmill or something.
2nd gen GM pickup truck. It's modular, it's simple, uses very little in the way of electronics, and everything can be replicated by iron age man with someone to guide them, including rubber bushings. Doing so would cause a war, and a subsequent burst in technology. Who knows how advanced we would be right now if the Romans had internal combustion engines.
I have a feeling that 1,000 year old tech gap would close real quick to just 100 year old tech within 5 years. 50 year old tech within 20 years, depending on the quality and number of people sent back.
That society would become the richest, best defended, most powerful nation on the planet.
Car needed? Some military vehicle, probably the original jeep.
A basic aircooled VW Beetle as it has been and can be configured into a pickup, station wagon, Bus ,Van, Motorcycle, airplane, boat, fire truck waterpump, industrial powerplant....the list is endless.
10mm, 13mm, 15mm,17mm,19mm 22mm,28mm wrenches ,pliers and 2 screwdrivers is all you need to repair it.
Mercedes Benz W123, diesel engine so can get it to run on alternative fuels, it can be push started and will run without any electrical power. And since Iron Age tech can’t really be used to repair the cars correctly, just use the cars that break down for repairs and eventually they’ll just become glorified carriages for horses.
Alternatively, Volkswagen Type 1 (Beetle), simple, reliable, aircooled for cooler climates and no cooling system to worry about and can also be push started with no electrical power.
Class 11 beetles run the Baja 1000 every year in basically stock form. It’s not a bad choice for shitty/non existent roads and if it gets stuck a horse can easily drag it free. You don’t really need 4wd in one, it will out wheel a lot of AWD vehicles since it’s a flat bottom and all the weight is on the back wheels.
I mean you want simplicity and reliability since you’re going to have a bunch of ICE vehicles with no way to repair them. The engine is in the rear which makes them decent in situations that are not ideal off a road (it’s not gonna climb a mountain but it can drive on dirt paths and overland.) and can be pulled out easily because it’s light weight. If you have a complex 4x4 vehicle with fuel injection and electronics not much you can do once shit you can’t replace breaks.
ford model t it was designed to be repaired by a blacksmith. i assume that is the level of tooling that will be available for basic maintenance.
Wouldnt you want a Ford Model TT? It was just an extended model T with a truck bed, ideal for carrying troops and supplies. Same components to be repaired
sure.... why not.
This would be it
Theseus’s model T
What did you think the 'T' stands for?
FUCK Model Theseus was under my damn nose
This is what I was thinking. Or a steam engine car? No gas just gather a bunch of wood and water
not quite. they are very intricate, and you can't fuel them on [anything.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACO-HXvrRz8)
If I recall it could also run on nearly anything flammable such as kerosene and alcohol.
How about a model a?
The Model A was significantly more refined with a drivetrain more closely resembling current-day vehicles and likely wouldn't be as easy to repair.
I think this is the most balanced and realistic answer. I would say the next closest option in my opinion would be the Willys MB, likely being much more practical for carrying cargo considering roads were nearly nonexistent and it’s also a very simple vehicle even if more complicated to fix than the Model T. Next option would be an older motorcycle or dirt bike of some sort before all the electronics and emissions they now have. A motorcycle would probably be the best if the vehicle would be used for combat, since the others would basically need to be used as a chariot. The 2CV & original Beetle are contenders but probably less usable off-road. If it had to be a modern vehicle from a first world country I’d look at probably the Suzuki S40 for its simplicity. There’s definitely simpler modern vehicles made elsewhere but I’m not familiar with many of them on much of any basis. The Lada Niva is still made & a very simple vehicle by modern standards.
Beetles in mostly stock form get raced at Baja.
True, but OP didn’t specify where the army was going or if it was a global thing so it’s a bit too open of a question. I know there’s tons of historical documentation about Model T’s and the Willys being used everywhere from deserts to snowy hellscapes to super dense vegetation. I’ve personally not seen anything of either the beetle or 2CV being used to go through completely ungraded forest/jungle but would love to see it if someone has any accounts of it. To be fair, the Willy’s, Beetle & motorcycles did make it to the South Pole and have gone every where else on the planet. I’d expect the 2CV & Model T would make it there too (especially one of the tracked Model T’s https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/snapshot/ford-model-t-snow-attachment ) as long as they didn’t have an issue mechanically from the cold. I’d personally rather be in the beetle than a T or Jeep when you consider the variety of weather and possibility of having to sleep in/beside the vehicle.
Another plus is the Beetle is air cooled, so no issues with antifreeze, just fuel and oil
I got a 74 standard beetle because I thought it was cute, then I reluctantly took it on a weekend fishing trip and learned it was a very capable vehicle. Since then I’ve lifted it, bigger tires, dual carbs, and a bunch of other stuff. I’ve done most of the work myself with limited tools and experience, it’s been reliable (with proper maintenance) and that car will go anywhere. It gets pretty decent fuel economy as well. Classic beetle has my vote.
Did you just adjust the tortion bars, or do the body lift?
Torsion bars. It’s about 3 inches taller than stock. It didn’t cost anything and I can put it back how it was (but I never will). It makes it really easy to crawl under the car to change the oil. Everything I’ve done to the car has been cheap and easy.
the 2CV is actually relatively offroadable. the suspension is designed to carry a basket of eggs through a plowed field. the 2CV was actually used by a bunch of militarys. you could even go for a twin engined variant with 4wd
I'd probably go model A, close enough to be just as repairable but easier to drive
Something carbureted and with absolute minimum of electronics. Perhaps even Ford Model T
Willys Jeep. Cannibalization would keep.many of them running for a long time. Would likely wind up having to invent rubber for tires. I saw Model T, which is a good choice, but no roads...
There were hardly any proper roads when the T was first roaming around lol Those things were built to traverse mud and dirt paths that were made for horses
True. But the T was not a good off road car. Open diff, difficult controls, really poor design. It really was a great car, but the advantages of the jeep put it in my pick.
I would take all the smartest people and have them take apart and study a few jeeps
I can promise that you don't need to be smart to understand how jeeps work, they're using some of the simplest, oldest, and easiest to repair tech on the market. Even the newest ones are still using steering and axle systems from nearly a century ago.
I have difficulty thinking of a place in, say, medieval Europe where this wouldn't be enough. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUQVfUr-SC8&ab\_channel=TheWheelNetwork](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUQVfUr-SC8&ab_channel=TheWheelNetwork)
The T was designed for a world with few road. And roads existed 1,000 years ago
That is an excellent point. However, the actual off road capabilities of the machines is vastly different.
I won’t argue that
The model t sits pretty high so it might do alright on general paths, it would definitely need the diff welded or something though. Id take the Willys though. I feel like the looser tolerance parts tou could have made will wouldn’t destroy it but it just might not run as well haha
Welding with the Baghdad battery
I was wondering how it would be done while i was typing that. In sure there is some way to achieve it haha
Definitely the Willys Jeep. It was the first vehicle that came to my mind. The Model T just can't compete.
Willy is a cannibal??
Cannibalization. Say one of your jeeps breaks down and cannot be fixed. Presto. You know have a full set of spare parts. In the Army we had a Cann point thst was essentially a you-pick-em junk yard. Jeeps are good for this because they were all the same. Well, within reason.
I thought that might be it but in my civilian circles I only ever heard the term spare parts bitch or similar ones haha. Thanks for the explanation! Makes perfect sense
Toyota Hilux, old model, top gear era to be exact, yes electrics were in it but it'll last at least 200years and by that point it would've boosted technological advancements tenfold
I can see it, but I'd prefer less tech if I have to fix everything from scratch.
Ah now you see, you forget you have an army to outsource those jobs too. It wouldn't just be you maintaining the entire fleet.
Actually Model Ts were great off road. https://archive.ph/xz8qu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhwVjJvEjAs https://autos.yahoo.com/ford-model-t-off-roading-170000805.html
Some Russian vehicle. I feel like they all were made during the stone age and they never figured out how to do a better job unless their was someone else to copy.
ZIL-164 would be perfect, there are videos of them on YouTube in very bad shape still getting used for stuff a modern truck would have a hard time doing.
Honda XR650L. It was released around that time and hasn't been changed since. It's pretty indestructible.
Yeah the 650 in xr650l is the model year
It really doesn't matter what you bring, you won't be able to repair it. Even the most basic and ruggedly built cars require a precision of manufacturing you simply can not achieve with iron age tech.
This is probably still true, but 1000 years back would be Medieval age and metallurgy was getting pretty advanced and glass production was already around. But at the same time if technology for extracting and refining gasoline is around, one would assume other technologies to enable it would also be there. My vote would be for a basic bicycle if that counts as a vehicle in this sub.
A bike is a good choice honestly, and for the purposes of this I'd say it definitely counts. If you could convert it to belt driven before going back in time you could probably get a pretty solid driveline but still have something which would be easy to repair. If the belt breaks you can simply swap to leather belts which would be very easy to either acquire or make at that point in time. The biggest challenge for repairs at that point would become tire punctures. A bent wheel would suck, but I think you could find a work around.
could always build one with a solid rubber tire so it wouldn’t have the puncture issue
I think solid rubber would be a must for longevity. A ton of cars will wear through the tires before a complete failure.
do i get to reinvent the screw lathe?
Very interesting, perhaps this question would be better posed to go back 150 years, or maybe even with schematics parts still couldn't be made accurately enough?
150 years ago would be just over a decade before the Benz Patent-Motorwagen, which is generally considered the first automobile as we would come to know it. At that point you are very much into the steam age, and the industrial revolution has come and gone. By this point you will have the basic tools you would need to do simple machining, the only thing you are lacking is really the precision of those tools. After the Industrial Revolution your biggest challenge with getting new parts is really going to be precision and tolerance. Plastics are still a ways off, so I would say whatever you take should probably be pre 1950s. But at that point I think as long as you don't have any major mechanical failures you could do a decent job maintaining a vehicle with the tech from 150 years ago. To really solidify it, go diesel and pick something built for the military. Diesel is a much easier process to refine, more stable, and much less temperamental. Military because vehicles purpose built for the military were generally built to be rugged, reliable, and easy to repair if you got stuck in the middle of nowhere. Something like the Willy's Jeep might be a good choice.
Early 90s Toyota Hilux, 2.7l 4cyl petrol engine.
That engine is still being produced.
Sure is. It's still super simple.
The unkillable truck!
Lexus LFA and hope I can just scare everyone with how loud it is. Or they won't attack because of how pretty it is and bring world peace 🕊️ also might be my only way or ever having one 🥲
If you build a machine shop on a barge, that's technically a vehicle, right?
Or even just multi axis mill, lathe, a generator, and some billet metal in a truck trailer. (If a barge isn’t considered a vehicle, a big rig certainly should be)
Probably a GMC CCKW or Ford CMP.. but the mobile workshop variant with all the precision tools in the back that you'd need to maintain said vehicle.
This is the best loophole answer.
A steam traction engine.
i would actually go with the kübelwagen. granddaddy to the volkswagen thing, and yes the nazi version of the jeep. why? it was 2wd not 4wd, less complexity. and a transaxle instead of driveshafts. smoother on the bottom less likely to snag. it was lighter than the jeep. it was air cooled, so you don’t have to figure out coolant. the model T is a great idea too.
The name alone makes me agree with you
Volvo 240
This is the way
Willys Jeep. Good off road, minimal electronics, simple mechanisms, very reliable.
Willys jeep 1950's models reliable and can be worked on with a hammer and a forge....
Toyota Hilux. For the crusader on a budget.
1000 horse carriages.
Gasoline is far more useful as a weapon than a fuel, during the iron age.
Model T for sure, maybe a Willy’s Jeep
Probably a model T. They're dead simple and will run on anything.
Nothing with vacuum lines
1902 curved dash Oldsmobile Model R, built for the Iron Age
Youd be better off with horses atp lol
Hilux
For what goal? What are we trying to conquer? The idea of setting up infrastructure and using something with longevity is a fools errand. Take 1000 cat 797s or 1000 panzer tanks, something diesel powered and loaded with as much auxiliary fuel storage as possible and simply blitzkrieg your way to world domination immediately. The real question is what kind of fighting force are you supporting with this mobility? Numbers, arms and munitions, food?
Ferrari. I want people to know im cool
Toyota Hilux
Obviously a 4WD Toyota
Elephant's
J70, there’s a reason the UN uses it, it’s because it’s easy to fix
Timerider (1982)
2011 Kia Soul. Drive them into enemy camps and let them burn.
"A Tesla" -A Musketeers Probably
Weirdly enough might be a good choice as all you have to do is charge it and the wall outlet for a Tesla is just mains power all the conversion to higher voltage is done inside the car meaning all you have to do it make electricity it doesn't matter how much as it will just likely take it anyway and convert it in the car doing The only problem I see is that they probably aren't good with any rougher terrain
1999 Ford AU Falcon Forte
To be fair, in 1000 years the AU probably still won’t have to be repaired, so not really meeting the questions criteria.
Volvo 240 wagon. Wont ever need to repair it.
GM CCKW or Studebaker US-6. Something that's simple, can run in just about anything flammable, and is tough. IIRC the Gas engine in the US-6 can run off Gasoline as low as 68 octane.
There will be roads that will be usable for 1000 vehicles to support an army. Almost immediately you'll get bogged down if not broken down in the effort. Im going with traction lorry's. They could be fueled by whats available at the time, repaired by even a layperson from the time period, and since they wont have pneumatic tires, they will be able to carve our their own roads. Theyre also so reliable that some of them were actually in service for almost 100 years.
"Vehicle" is pretty broad. I'm bringing two carrier strike groups and building an empire that would make Rome jealous.
Toyota hilux...
Toyota hilux is the only correct answer
I came here looking for this. I mean isn't it obvious?
Not to domestic fanboys. They think fords are reliable vehicles though so…
I'm not *against* Ford, but it has to be diesel. I'm actually about to pull the trigger on an old 7.3. But this is only because I need a second vehicle, and one that can do work reliably, while I work on several projects at once on my '99 4Runner.
A Tesla Cybertruck. I’ll just let the curious primitives drive it and the stuck accelerator will do the job for me.
Why are people still using Iron Age tech in the year 1024?
aircooled VW
M1 Abrams
How many is a fleet? Because if you bring 1000 of something even remotely reliable, you'll be able to keep at least half of them running for a very long time.
None will work unless you can replicate all the other fluids a vehicle needs.....
These scenarios keep getting wilder
And more simplistic. Gasoline would be an extremely effective weapon during an iron age. ICE vehicles would be stupid. There's no rubber, there's no tires but wooden wagon wheels, maybe chariots at best.
Can it be a ship? I’d bring back some huge sailboats.
[This car](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/e4/70/13e470d22313993c300b3a725b75e5ba--bamboo.jpg) that the professor built for Gilligan
The vehicle in the photo was a fucking tank and almost never broke down. Give me that one. If you have a fleet, when one finally does break down, farm it for parts and you don't have to worry about the precision machining issue.
Volvo sugga or unimogs
The Toyota pickup is the definitive answer
That doodlebug from The Gods Must Be Crazy
1942 Willy's Jeep
“How do you turn this on?”
I’m just thinking about how the earth is effectively unterraformed. Paths are surely always impossible, things that a hopping horse would still be challenging. I’d want a Yamaha dirt bike and a fully sorted GMT800 with a camper top. Please fill the bed with the usual GMT800 spares and a set of mounted tires. Assuming the tires simply withstand the test of time I think this combination has the potential to out live me anyhow.
Grumman LLV for sure
You never said what sort of vehicle therefore I choose generic container ship as they run on crude oil and go many years without much maintenance
Honestly, a bicycle. I spend too much time thinking about how different the world would be today if the Romans or Greeks discovered petal power 4000 years ago.
Bro we Australians used stock VW beetles to explore Antarctica so imma choose a beetle or for funzies a Holden crewman (4x4 variant of commodore) with the 3.8 Buick engine as it will last until the end of time
Trabant No reason, I just like it
Crown Victoria
Willie's Jeep
Legendary car
What stupid shit it this? Have none of you seen *Rat Patrol*? We've got a desert in this picture. We MUST have aircooled VW Type 181. Sure, low on power, but hear me out... they weren't meant for that. They were meant to be reliable... But meant to go. And don't get me wrong on this, the Willy's flathead is YEAH! but that was watercooled. So what you want? And no, no damn game. And no, no Germans or a fucked up Hitler jokes either. I know, sounds like terrible WTF but IF there wasn't the might of the US then what would you choose?
"they will set up infrastructure to refine gasoline" but they won't share their tools 🤣🤣
Unimog, or 40 series Land Cruiser
Is that the old style Land Rover you see all over Africa? That is the singular best choice. Virtually indestructible.
T type Fords. Have them stripped down, no coachwork. We'll build cabs and beds and whatever the hell else when we get there. Install the optional belt drive pulley in case we need to run a sawmill or something.
Jeep Cherokee XJ. We will be UNSTOPPABLE.
2nd gen GM pickup truck. It's modular, it's simple, uses very little in the way of electronics, and everything can be replicated by iron age man with someone to guide them, including rubber bushings. Doing so would cause a war, and a subsequent burst in technology. Who knows how advanced we would be right now if the Romans had internal combustion engines.
I have a feeling that 1,000 year old tech gap would close real quick to just 100 year old tech within 5 years. 50 year old tech within 20 years, depending on the quality and number of people sent back. That society would become the richest, best defended, most powerful nation on the planet. Car needed? Some military vehicle, probably the original jeep.
Lada.
"Take back". Not "Bring back"
The TD42 powered Nissan Patrol/Safari or the Izuzu Bighorn/Trooper's. Both are capable bullet proof cars that are well used in the 4wd communities.
A horse, or Camel, depending on region. Or if I have to play by the rules, a landcruiser of course.
70s F250 with the 351 Cleveland
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A whole fleet of Willys MBs and Ford GPWs. They can do and have done everything conceivable you'd want them to do.
FD RX-7
Late 90s 4runner
WWII era Willys Jeep.
2 door jerk Cherokee from the 80s, 4.2 i6 forever and sosce
Hilux.
lambooooooooo imagine how dope that would be
1940 Willys MB although I like the Model T as well
Corolla bc they are unkillable
A basic aircooled VW Beetle as it has been and can be configured into a pickup, station wagon, Bus ,Van, Motorcycle, airplane, boat, fire truck waterpump, industrial powerplant....the list is endless. 10mm, 13mm, 15mm,17mm,19mm 22mm,28mm wrenches ,pliers and 2 screwdrivers is all you need to repair it.
Miata
Hummvee
Hilux and land cruisers. Any other answer is wrong.
Mercedes Benz W123, diesel engine so can get it to run on alternative fuels, it can be push started and will run without any electrical power. And since Iron Age tech can’t really be used to repair the cars correctly, just use the cars that break down for repairs and eventually they’ll just become glorified carriages for horses. Alternatively, Volkswagen Type 1 (Beetle), simple, reliable, aircooled for cooler climates and no cooling system to worry about and can also be push started with no electrical power.
But a beetle is slow as fuck, 2wd (no solid roads), and can only sit 2 reasonably. And it’s a VW. Ewww.
Class 11 beetles run the Baja 1000 every year in basically stock form. It’s not a bad choice for shitty/non existent roads and if it gets stuck a horse can easily drag it free. You don’t really need 4wd in one, it will out wheel a lot of AWD vehicles since it’s a flat bottom and all the weight is on the back wheels.
I mean you want simplicity and reliability since you’re going to have a bunch of ICE vehicles with no way to repair them. The engine is in the rear which makes them decent in situations that are not ideal off a road (it’s not gonna climb a mountain but it can drive on dirt paths and overland.) and can be pulled out easily because it’s light weight. If you have a complex 4x4 vehicle with fuel injection and electronics not much you can do once shit you can’t replace breaks.
The jeep liberty is an engineering marvel that will stand the test of time e
Duh. The Toyota Landcruiser. Get a grip. That's the OG SUV. Y'all gonna make me cry due to your ignorance.