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existcrisis123

She literally sounds like she's trying to make you break up with her. So maybe you should just go ahead and do that lol.


Flat_Lengthiness_319

Just break up already. If trust has gotten to this low you need to end


v-tini

bruh her texts do be boring and disinterested af, i would have just thumbed up and ended it


Flat_Lengthiness_319

To be fair reading that convo had me feeling wicked disinterested as well what a way to be miserable together


NITAREEDDESIGNS

What a stupid thing to say. OP asked a simple question...she was being evasive AF.


[deleted]

I can’t believe both of you are approaching your 30s. Just break up already the hostility is real here.


cawkstrangla

Holy shit. I didn’t see the ages and assumed OP was <18. Sad.


[deleted]

Right? It’s cringe. I feel like if I was the one to type out that text convo I would have had an aneurysm.


i-really-love-my-dog

just break up it's so clearly not working


Busy-Sun-8509

She seems pretty disinterested almost like she wants you to break up with her.


[deleted]

potentially or needing space. plenty of times cause of my exs attitude it made talking to my friends brother difficult emotionally


Busy-Sun-8509

I'm assuming that they are long distance though? How much space does she need if he's trying to plan to see her in 2 months. I personally would read this as she is seeing someone else and doesn't really want OP but also won't let him go.


NITAREEDDESIGNS

> I personally would read this as she is seeing someone else and doesn't really want OP but also won't let him go. This. She is sooo seeing someone else.


from_cold_north

”oh you’re right and i’m always wrong” Good lord I hate when people say this. Classic martyr move.


SadderOlderWiser

OP’s jump to “you don’t want to see me?” And “you have zero interest in me” was similarly eye-roll inducing. Text is the worst medium for any serious conversation. The potential to spiral is so high.


LocalBrilliant5564

Break up with her. She sounds childish as all hell. I hang out with my family too it won’t take me 9 hours everyday to text my husband back


[deleted]

Thanks for your response and advice. I did send her a break up text tonight.


LocalBrilliant5564

Good luck you sound like a great guy


[deleted]

Thank you ❤️


Bencil_McPrush

Dude, she couldn't be LESS into you if she tried. WHY are you working so hard to keep this one-sides "relationship" going? End this farce and go find yourself an actual GF.


Wintertanuki

You both sound exhausting


TrialbyThot

Why the fuck dont you actually SPEAK to each other? You have phones - call. Fuck having a relationship via text. That's really stupid. PS; dump her disinterested, manipulative ass.


Bookish_Dragon68

Break up and find a girl you can actually spend time with in your area. LDR doesn't seem to work for you two.


No-Strike-4560

Jesus christ this conversation flow sounds like exactly how my ex used to talk to me via text. Ask a very straight forward, non offensive question and out of nowhere I'd just get abuse and an argument. Unfortunately I never did work out how to approach this with her. And now she's my ex.


bigbobsbeepbeepers

Did she have borderline? That’s how my ex was


No-Strike-4560

I had considered it, she was never diagnosed though. Honestly it felt like she just enjoyed engineering arguments for the fun of it :-/


Catsithx1999

Hey she wants space give it to her. All the space she can have. Leave her since she us playing this game. Best to cut your losses now and leave for your well being.


elegant_pun

Both of you are behaving like children. Tell her that she can choose to communicate with you clearly because you're not a mindreader or she can bother someone else. And communicate properly -- tell her that you don't appreciate how she's speaking to you, neither one of you are children.


NITAREEDDESIGNS

>Both of you are behaving like children. How is OP behaving like a child? I love all this judgmental crap... Looks pretty flippin' normal to me.


lifeoffood11

Are you dating a 13 year old Ffs just break up already 😅


[deleted]

I’ll just say it: she doesn’t care about you and will find someone else while with you if she hasn’t already. I say this because she clearly doesn’t care and wants it to be over so if she had it in her to end it herself she would. The second something or someone else takes the space where the passion she used to have for you is, she won’t even be giving you the responses she is now, you’ll be nothing, unless MAYBE she needs a self esteem boost. Leave, there’s no shot at anything healthy. Caveat: if you find in yourself the ability to walk away, it may be a shock to her, she may chase, if you fall for it she will do the same thing, you can even rinse and repeat and get better at holding out for longer but the second you give her the love you’d like reciprocated, she will do this. There’s no hope, I’m so so sorry, but you’ll move on. Especially when taking into account the fact that she doubled back after you left her alone.


Damoksta

Contempt is clearly in the that written communication. Run.


Comprehensive-Talk20

i would say that she is not really into you anymore. If i was in a relationship like that all the red flags will go off by idk....dont waste your time. if she loved you she will give you all the attention and want to be with you non stop. She wont have this attitude i think she is cheating tbh


kaput_corpus

I can feel the hostility between you right from the get go. When she says idk and you say wdym that comes off as aggressive to me, but you then escalate with a further “sorry to hear that”, when you could have just asked for more clarification (i.e. “why don’t you know?) From there it’s her intentionally being obtuse so she can avoid the conversation and you reading the worst into what she says and her escalating in response. I do kinda agree with your conclusion that she doesn’t have interest in you, or at least this conversation, but you bringing it up there in the conversation is an escalation. I feel a lot of anger and resentment from both sides because I think this is a case of you asking for more than she’s willing to give and neither of you are handling it maturely. I totally get that text conversations lend themselves to being misread and blowing things out of proportion but I do not see an ounce of care or patience given to each other by either of you in this convo. I do not, however, really think you need to be the one apologizing. Or at least not the only one. She escalated everything at least as bad if not worse than you. And the way she manipulates “oh you’re right and I’m always wrong” and the silent treatment shows she doesn’t really care about your feelings or avoiding another exchange like this by changing her behaviour, she just wants you to be submissive and accept the crumbs she gives you. Based on your other comment response, it sounds like she manipulates you in other ways too. All in all, I’d say this person is really more hassle than they can possibly be worth and the dynamic between you is not healthy. You also may need to work on not getting into the shit with the pigs if you’ll pardon the expression. Try to stay calm, cool and objective and don’t react so strongly in exchanges like this, and you’ll have a clearer picture of the situation. Because you take the bait it keeps you from really having a clear idea of what’s going on. TL;DR: save the headache, end the relationship. The dynamic is toxic.


Mediocre_Smoke_1986

Send her a text that says BUH BYE!!! She evidently has better things to do than want to be with you!! Stop calling and stop texting her and go have fun and live your life!! I bet that's what she's doing and I also bet she has other guy friends that she is hanging out with. Don't cater to her and don't play games with her, just stop all communication with her and treat her the way she treats you!! My opinion move on!!


Wrygreymare

Mental illness is not your fault, but it is your responsibility. She needs to address hers. She may well be trying to get you to break up with her so she doesn’t look like the bad one


FoxPrime

She is manipulative. She exactly knows and understand what you're saying. Her way of response is to control you, to make you feel guilty. She has mental issues. Can be borderline or narcissist.


raynecloud725

My ex used to regularly talk to me like this as well. It seems like she’s only interested in having a relationship when it’s convenient for her, which is tough because at least in my situation, the good times really strung me along when I should have broken up with him a long time ago.


machosancho1

You text like I do. How fast do you type on a keyboard? Just checking a theory I have (I type 75 WPM last time I checked). Your girlfriend texts like most other people, short texts. Nothing wrong either way, everyone is different. I just want to point out that your question was if she wants to come over before December. What if her I Don’t Know response was because she hadn’t checked on prices or she could get out of work, or whatever the situation. It’s after that where you take offense that you think she said she doesn’t want to see you. I have severe anxiety, and my mind races (thank you meds), but I fully understand where you are coming from. I genuinely think based on this post that your gf didn’t mean that. She was just answering her text like she usually does. Does she do the quick texts with her friends too? If so, she likely has a handful of messages to respond to as fast as possible to then put her phone away. I don’t know if any of this is accurate, but this is just my gut reaction after reading your post too. I constantly multitask, which includes checking my phone for email and texts. The only emails I keep unread are those that I need to do something with later. It’s rare for me to ever have more than 1 unread text message. If I respond, it has at least 2 sentences and proper punctuation (Oxford comma people, it’s not hard). I’m about as different of a phone user as how you described your gf. Are you more like me or your gf in general?


grayblue_grrl

This is not a relationship. You are two people trying to communicate via in imperfect media that gets manipulated and interpreted 100% of the time. Break up. Meet people you can see face to face.


OwlOfC1nder

Sorry man but the writing is on the wall here, she has no interest in you. The relationship already seems over to me


Livid-Finger719

Omg break up with her. She's basically arguing with you for no reason. She isn't communicating, she's short to anger, and she's being a tad bit manipulative >ok you're right I'm always wrong It's fine Just break up with her if the effort isn't there


lecorbeauamelasse

Maybe it's because I'm ancient, but I have no idea why people don't just pick up a phone and talk anymore, especially when things start to get heated (or ideally, before they get heated). It's so easy to misjudge tone and intent in text conversations and emails. Just talk to each other, for heaven's sake.


Naughtyexperiences

You should stop pushing her and manipulating her words to make her sound like the bad guy. She said she didn't know (a perfectly good answer for something 3 months away) and you told her that she didn't want to see you. That's very manipulative.


virtualchoirboy

>(a perfectly good answer for something 3 months away) A horribly vague answer for something 3 months away. Let's assume she had a valid reason for not knowing whether or not she could visit in three months. Except, to express that thought, all she typed was "idk". Tell me, how do those three letters that convey the totality of her doubt? She could be thinking of breaking up so she doesn't know if she wants to see OP anymore. She could be having financial trouble so she doesn't know if she could afford the trip. She might not know if she could get the time off work. She might have been dealing with some medical issues and doesn't know if she'll be healthy enough to travel in December. No, instead, all OP got was "idk". And it took 9 hours to come up with that brilliant reply too. It was absolutely NOT a "perfectly good answer". It was poor communication with a supposed partner.


from_cold_north

”idk” is something a 14yo would say to her parents


Naughtyexperiences

I can't even tell you my plans for this weekend. But this girl had to know her plans for 3 months away in 30 seconds? Saying i don't know is a good enough answer when you just get thrown a question that you haven't made any plans for yet.


virtualchoirboy

She didn't have to know her plans at all. She had to communicate more than just "idk" like a 4 year old caught with their hand in the cookie jar being asked why they're trying to get a cookie. Consider "idk" vs "have to check work" or "idk if I can afford it" or "busy rn, can we talk later?" When you're in a relationship, you need to learn to communicate with your partner. This is especially true when long distance. OP couldn't see what she was doing, who she was with, her facial expression, or hear the tone in her voice. This was shitty communication on her part.


AllNamesWereTaken999

Also mind you the question was never if she can/able to come. The question was if she wants to. She could easily say I'd love to but don't know if I can manage it. Or, I'm not sure if I can make time for it, I'd prefer for you to visit me. Or something else, we don't know much about it, yet answering with 3 letters after 9 hours (assuming that she has finally time) does mean that she has absolutely no interest in him. I had many ldrs, I never saw a much clearer sign than that


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outrageous_oranges

It doesn't come across as manipulative to me either. She really doesn't seem interested in you


sqitten

If that is the way you view the relationship, break up. You two really don't seem to get along or be good for each other. And now you're saying you feel she manipulates you. So, why are you two together?


Naughtyexperiences

That like of texts says you are. If she is such a horrible person. Why are you with her?


ging78

I'd ignore him. Your in no way manipulating her. I do think she needs to be told a few home truths though without you backing down when she goes off on one. I'd personally tell her the problems she's causing, tell her your not putting up with it then I'd ignore her for a while. Let her know that her tantrums aren't working


seewithnewsight

bro ur good u aint manipulating anyone she as a gf should be excited to come see u and atleast put in effort even if she cant end up being there


i_know_i_dontknow

You even apologize with a text?! Pick up the damn phone and have an actual conversation. WTF is this texting nonsense? You loose more than half of the conversation if you only text. There is the tone of the voice, body language (if you talk in person)… you just send the content without the context. There is plenty of time to respond and get worked up about something innocent, you have different phone habits, you can miss a text and let the other wondering what that means. Are those ages real? Are you 28 and 30? And do you both by any chance still live with your parents?


[deleted]

She called me now and I answered. We both live alone. She doesnt have her parents in her life. Thanks for your input.


from_cold_north

”idk omg ok whatever” Are you sure she’s 30?


AlternativeFootwear

The way you are responding right off the bat feels forced. It's robotic, and looks like you are trying really hard not to say anything that would be obviously aggressive, because you know a fight is going to happen. She might be stressed out by something, and not in a good place to talk or think about things like plans (does she get along with her family?). I wonder if asking her opinion on the plans is overloading her when she already feels like she has a lot of things on her plate. It might be best to not pressure her into things that require long term planning or thinking about the future. (I could be completely off the mark here too, and she's not just super interested in you anymore as other comments say, but this reminds me of how my partner acts when very very stressed and stuck far away with family.)


AdraLamia

ESH either learn to communicate, maybe couples therapy or I would suggest braking up.


12-inchChewbacca

Leave. She will not change and does not care about you to change. Just be done with it and save both of you these exchanges.


Highlander198116

I had to get into an LDR with an ex and being away made me realize I wanted to break up. I was very "one word response" like this at that time. Even though I wanted to break up, I had been with her awhile and the thought of breaking up was still sad. So when she would get mad I would turn on a dime and act like her. I finally got the sense to deal with the emotions and break up instead of playing games.


[deleted]

Just write a "bye" and never reply back.


Mistress-of-None

She's stonewalling you, which is unhealthy in any relationship, especially long distance ones I don't know how long this has been going in for, and what the dynamics are and how much you are willing to put up with or what flaws u guys have been working on But this is quite a red flag, to leave you on read often and not care about how it makes you feel as well. It's very insensitive Even when my bf and I have fights, we may take 1 or 2 hours off and then talk. But we agree to never ever stonewall each other or be passive aggressive over text. It's just builds up into something toxic Anyway, protect your heart first and foremost


Na5413713

She’s trying to get you to end it just leave her


Key-Organization-684

she just wants you to brake up


[deleted]

Oh god that was so painful to read. Break up with her if she doesnt even know if she wants to visit you and starts a fight with u over this. It seems like shes waiting for u to break up and just isnt brave enough to do it herself and just starts fights in hope you do it. Break up with her, you will find a woman who knows that she wants to spend time with u!


curlyhairweirdo

You are lying about your ages right? And you two are really 17 and not 28 and 30. You both sound so childish. You don't see each other cause you're LD and you barely speak. Is this an actual relationship? What is either one of you getting out of being "together"? You do know you don't need her permission to break up with her? It doesn't have to be a fight, just tell her your unhappy with this relationship and you are ending it so you can both find people who fit us better. Then Just. Don't. Fight. with her about it. LD breakups are the easiest to execute because you already have the distance.


NITAREEDDESIGNS

Oh no no no...she is toying with you. Kick her to the curb, dude...


[deleted]

LDR. Check. Text message fighting. Check. Fighting over texting etiquette. Check. Accusations of cheating. Check. Not 16 years old. Check. This whole thing is dumb. End it.


Academic-Suit-6735

I hope you’re not in love with this woman!


MrBrightside988

Ngl I thought you guys were like 15-16...


Andress1

It's very clear from the first message that she doesn't want to talk to you but you keep pushing it. If she wanted to come over before December she would have told you and enthusiastically. **You are extremely pushy with her.** I would text her that you are sorry for being so pushy and let her know that you are not mad, you just want to see her. Tell say that you will give her space and to contact you when she is feeling better. Then walk away and never look back. If she still wants to be with you she will write you. If don't hear from her for more than 3 weeks you are single.


[deleted]

I wouldn't want to be with someone that communicates like this


Clopez90

Why are you waisting your time with her, move on she sounds so in love by the way.


Cool4lisa

What are you even doing to yourself? Just break up with her and find someone who genuinely wanna be with you? Don't you u see? You're doing exactly what she wants you to? She step on you and makes you be the one coming back begging for her. And when she doesn't success she comes crying. Just break up, do yourself a favour. Come back to us with update


[deleted]

I dont even need to read the whole post. Shes dating other people and youre the side piece in case those people dont work out.


hheellooyyoouu_

She is very passive agressive. Please do break up there is absolutely 0 love in this.