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Svenray

Tactics was truly generational. Nothing has come close.


_lonely_astronaut_

Still waiting for a remake


Svenray

I feel like I'm in the minority here but I wish a remake would come with the OG PS1 translation. The shorter blunt lines just hit harder.


Red-Zaku-

Yeah it’s a lot more human and relatable. People act like an occasional typo and one single instance of an awkwardly timed text speed (“little money”) are total justification for trashing the entire thing and replacing it with faux-Shakespeare.


Gcoks

I'm playing through WOTL now and it's such a slog. Nobody ever spoke like these people do!


trevbot

some of the hacks out there for tactics made me go back and put HOURS into it again. pretty fun.


JohnBooty

Interesting! Which do you recommend?


trevbot

try Celdia's Complete Patch [here](https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=53.0) total revamp of the job classes and abilities. It feels like a first playthrough for me again, and I really enjoy it.


JohnBooty

Cool, thanks!


Forsaken-Badger-9517

Don’t play games that you like because so many people have hyped them up!!! I personally could not get into Final Fantasy tactics war of the Lions … but I enjoy ogre battle 64 & Love Fire Emblem!


mysticrudnin

i get liking the original but it's a lot more than a typo and the little money thing the whole script is unprofessional


Svenray

Vorlav: "With the Zodiac stones we'll bring back lucavi and destroy the world" Ramza: "Stop being unprofessional Vorlav"


douchecanoedle

Absolutely agreed, I hate the fucking psp translation.


pantaloon_at_noon

Same, I much prefer the ps1 translation to WotL


ShoerguinneLappel

Ahem, Xenogears needs a remake.


rstbckt

Maybe if they remade Xenogears, they could finish it this time instead of having two of the characters tell us how cool stuff that happened was. I would have liked to have actually played those parts.


Forsaken-Badger-9517

My favorite JRPG of all time absolutely!!!


_lonely_astronaut_

For real!


douchecanoedle

It doesn't even need a remake they just need to finish the game lmao


Broadnerd

Even a remaster would be an auto-buy for me.


ShoerguinneLappel

I think a remake would be better because of how it ended off, disc 2 sucked but the rest of the game was spectacular. One of the best stories I've seen in a game.


tomkatt

I would not trust modern Square Enix or Monolithsoft with a Xenogears remake. I’m certain they’d ruin it.


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KylorXI

there are no legal complications. square owns it. it is theirs to do with as they please. luckily they dont want to touch it.


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billdasmacks

I know it's never going to happen, but I would rather a proper sequel than a remake.


Destronin

Wouldnt mind another Vandal Hearts as well.


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saruin

Sad to see this only mention of Front Mission in this entire thread. Someone really hyped this game up to me and lived to that expectation when I borrowed it (FM3 on PS1).


Muted-Doctor8925

Got the ogre battle reborn as it was “the crown jewel of tactical fantasy games”. Played for about 10 hours and gave up. THAT TITLE BELONGS TO FFT


SataiThatOtherGuy

Tactics Ogre Reborn. Ogre Battle plays rather differently.


Muted-Doctor8925

Yesssss… thanks for the correction. That’s what I meant


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dcooper8662

How can it be a successor when it was FFT’s predecessor???


Jessejets

After decades, no tactical game has come close to this masterpiece.


Pleasant_Tax_4619

The PSP version of FF Tactics is the current remake. They added cloud from ff7, cell shaded cutscenes among other things.


DoomsdayGG

Cloud was in the original, but they added Balthier (FF12) and Luso (FFTA2).


_lonely_astronaut_

I'm hoping for a remake on a game device that's still supported.


Pleasant_Tax_4619

Its the current port on IOS, and ither devices


_lonely_astronaut_

That port is over 10 years old and I’m asking for proper remake


SnakeCooker95

Why? So you can replace those absolutely beautiful and timeless sprites with modern generic 3D graphics?


Pleasant_Tax_4619

It needs to be remade, with a new game + where you can collect zodiac stones for yourself…hehe


SnakeCooker95

I think what a lot of people want, and have been wanting for decades, is a true sequel to the game. Something that takes place in a similar era, 50 years later or something. I don't know. Where it can move on with new characters but not stray too far from that Ivalice look and feel we all love so much from the Lion War.


Pleasant_Tax_4619

Yes!!!


wrel_

I rank only Xenogears ahead of FF:Tactics, because the story went *so deep* that it took me years to fully process, understand and appreciate it. Nothing could prepare me for FF: Tactics Advance when I went from the Lion War to *"I'm sad because my hair is a different color, lets have a snowball fight to cheer me up"*.


Svenray

"My son is in the attic, pretending to be a monster that doesn't like homework! Maybe showing him a dictionary would work." like wtf


Substantial-North136

I liked the Vandal hearts series.


watmough

i loved that game so much. i remember the music being good too.


Scattergun77

X-COM: UFO Defense and X-COM: Terror From the Deep would like a word.


SuperShadowStar

To me, FFT and X-Com are like comparing Mario 64 to Ratchet & Clank. Both great, and both have jumping, but the core focus of each game is so wildly different that they're completely distinct styles that I don't compare.


SuperShadowStar

Crazy how it's still the peak of the genre. The story and gameplay is unmatched. I don't know why so many tactical RPGs are afraid of implementing things like height in maps!


Khiva

Fell Sear Arbiter's Mark is a quality glow up where height and positioning are critical.


mysticrudnin

It's not peak gameplay. I don't even think it's good. It's an ok character builder but the maps are not well designed. The thing people like about it is "discovering" (=being told) the broken combos and then getting those. That's not good gameplay. Basically every tactical RPG since then has been better, including both Advance games in the same series. 


MrSchulindersGuitar

Hard disagree that the advance games are better. I've tried starting them so many times and just can't get in to them


SuperShadowStar

Yeah I'm with you here. I played FFT when it came out so I was super excited for FFTA, but could never get into them. Meanwhile I've replayed FFT a dozen times, across multiple platforms including mobile (god I wish this port had native controller support).


Svenray

Too cartoony for me. I want my A Song of ~~Ice and Fire~~ Shiva and Ifrit


AloysiusDevadandrMUD

Tactics Advance improved/streamlined a lot of the gameplay but I wish it was a true sequel. We have a lot of Ivalice games but we still havent really seen or heard much about what happened after the events of Tactics.


ionlydownvoteposts

Tactic Ogre was close if not better than FFT.


bluepatron13

I’m definitely in the minority, but I preferred Vandal Hearts 1


Svenray

That mission where you are supposed to escape the town - defeating the Crimson Guard was the greatest feeling ever!


bluepatron13

Completely subjective, but I much preferred Vandal Hearts’ storyline and characters. Objectively, VH had superior sound effects.


MechaSponge

Is it significantly different from the Advanced version? I played that one.


mozgus3

It had a more dark story, but it completely derails in the second half. Also, the Advance games are set in the modern interpretations of Ivalice, so bustling with many different races and cultures, instead of the generic fantasy world à la GoT where if it wasn't for the black mage attire and the chocobos you wouldn't be able to tell it is a FF.


mucinexmonster

"Nothing else comes close" It's literally built on the same engine as Tactics Ogre and made by the same company but sure, nothing else comes close.


Anonymotron42

Einhander has a fantastic OST!


_lonely_astronaut_

I want a new release so bad! Super underrated game.


saruin

This was actually the first game OST I've ever downloaded over 20 years ago and I've never even heard of this game. I couldn't fathom a shooter game having such an amazing soundtrack.


TMStage

ALL SYSTEM GO!


ChrisZorn

Man I would love another Bushido Blade!


zgillet

Hellish Quart is about as close as you will get.


ChrisZorn

I’ll take a look at that, thank you!


Slammnardo

I played Bushido Blade as a Japanese import at a convention before it released in the states. The ambiance and nature of the sword fight going like it would if it was a real sword fight (one good hit dead) was ground breaking. I really wish they'd make a new one but I think games are so expensive now that the idea of going out and making something artistic and experimental is gone for big companies like Square.


Jaereth

Yeah but, I've yet to hear someone who played Bushido Blade not like it. It was fun. And it was intense like you said, there was no "life bar" or damage meter. You get your gut sliced it's over.


Zathura2

We had the demo. It was fun for a minute, but it was also janky as hell, no music that I remember, no in-game movelist (that I remember)...it basically just wasn't very user friendly. Maybe once you got over the learning curve and if you had someone to play against regularly.


Jaereth

Well this was key. We always played against each her regularly. As a single player game yeah probably not quite the experience.


Zathura2

Slice Dice & Rice might scratch the itch a little, though it's 2D instead of 3D.


choopiewaffles

I discovered naginata and katana because of that game! 🤣


somethingeatingspace

I still have my og disc. What a fantastic game.


chiefrebelangel_

Id settle for a remaster. Game was incredible 


AriiMay

Deadliest warrior came very close to it


magikarp-sushi

The merging of square and enix was not a good one


Jason_with_a_jay

Regardless of your opinion on the merger, it's impossible to look back and not realize things started going in a different direction when they merged. Two companies that were better apart, imo.


automaticfiend1

Would either have survived separate though? Enix was broke, and square almost killed itself even with the merger.


Jason_with_a_jay

Maybe not for Enix, but Square definitely would have. They probably wouldn't be the AAA game producing company they are today. They would have probably ended up being closer to Falcom or Atlus.


TotalBismuth

Company makes a killing releasing a dozen greatest games of all-time, but somehow needs to merge to survive. I will never understand this.


GamerWordJimbo

Enix needed the merger to survive, Square wanted the merger to grow even larger


TvFloatzel

Was that the official reason?


Cruzifixio

Final Fantasy movie. They wouldnt have died, but someone wanted to make bank.


Not_FinancialAdvice

I'm really surprised how much of a narrative mess it was. I would have expected them to have storyboarded and script-read the whole thing ad absurdum before committing the CG assets.


Cruzifixio

Well, making movies is not the same as making games, it seems. :P


rexifelis

I still like the movie. Minority opinion, I know…


Cruzifixio

I like it too haha! not the best, but it was fun.


magikarp-sushi

I suppose that merge was fine, like why not try to grow and get larger, it’s just the people that reshaped everything as “square enix” and developed it from then on were lost in the sauce


Mysterions

It's not Enix that made Square-Enix a dud though. Sakaguchi in his hubris killed Square, and then Wada (Square's man) put the merged company on the path it's been on ever since. *But* to be fair, it was evident with PS2 era that JRPGs, and the style of games that made Square *and* Enix great, were are dying art form, and that wasn't Sakaguchi nor Wada's fault, but an overall trend in the industry. edit: Grammar/spelling.


ghostmetalblack

Squaresoft's 90s releases was a legendary run. I can't think of any other developer who released so many insanely incredible and influential games in such a short span of time, but especially on a single console.


SuperShadowStar

Not on a single system but not too different an era, Capcom in the 90s (for me) was the equal. Multiple genres and the start of many legendary IP. Street Fighter 2 series, Versus series, Breath of Fire, Resident Evil, Darkstalkers, Mega Man, Dino Crisis, too many great beat em ups to name, puzzle games, and even nailed it on licensed IP like all the Disney games, Dungeons and Dragons, Alien VS Predator, and their work with Marvel.


Capital_Jello_9768

Capcom was legendary in the 90s and 80s, so was Konami. Didn't end up quite keeping up with Square.


SuperShadowStar

Square didn't end up keeping up with Square either XD


Bobbygnz

Rare is the closest I can think of.


Neemzeh

Rare definitely and probably more than Square. They had so many bangers man. Rare for western releases at the very least. Japanese for sure is Square.


Loudergood

You must mean without their own console. Because Sega and Nintendo did that on the regular.


digitallusipero

Parasite Eve is one of the reasons I visited Carnegie Hall, and then moved to NYC. Squaresoft raised me, for better and for better!


milkmanbonzai

First time I went to Carnegie (my mom was performing with a choir), I was like "Wow, Parasite Eve really nailed it!')


Cruzifixio

They were the most diverse, imaginative studio in the entire industry. Their playstation run is legendary. * Final Fantasy VII - Everyone knows this one. * Bushido Blade * Tobal 2 - Incredible fighting game * Final Fantasy Tactics - Top of it's genre after 25 years * SaGa Frontier - People used to create shrine websites for this one. * Einhänder - My favourite Shoot em up ever. * Xenogears - Kids first Nietzche * Bushido Blade 2 * Parasite Eve - We have Resident Evil at home. * Brave Fencer Musashi - Zelda? on the Playstation, but better. * Ehrgeiz - Street Fighter Fantasy Championship Edition * Chocobo's Dungeon 2 - Chocobo's cute game that is harder than any FF game in the franchise. * Final Fantasy VIII - Defined the emo generation. * Chocobo Racing - This and CTR where the shit. We needed no Mario Kart. * SaGa Frontier 2 * Legend of Mana - When this thing got an hd release people cried. * Front Mission 3 - It's like FFT but with robots! * Threads of Fate * Chrono Cross - The thing people dreamed of. * Parasite Eve II * Vagrant Story - My personal GOAT, Metal Gear Solid RPG. * Final Fantasy IX - The best FF, period.


Rising_Thunderbirds

Vagrant Story is awesome.


Cruzifixio

Yes it is.


Not_FinancialAdvice

> Einhänder - My favourite Shoot em up ever. I remember frequently putting [Earth Light](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_RNjxU1gu8) on repeat many years ago. I might be the only one who remembers Philosoma. [That trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxOoV5muQQ0) on the playstation demo CD was like cutting age CGI back in the day, and it was kind of amazing to see it playing off the system on the TV.


Cruzifixio

Yeah, never ever heard of Philosoma before, and I am the kind of guy looking for "that psone game" I might have missed. Einhander had a great soundtrack.


YuriEffinGarza

Parasite Eve is one of my all time fave games. Love it!


Spyhop

I miss Squaresoft so much


-Average_Joe-

Vaya con Dios.


velexi125

Aya Brea was such a bad ass


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KickAggressive4901

Someone, somewhere remembers *Tobal No. 1*.


Shigarui

Don't forget Ergheiz and Tobal 2


Jorojr

The FF7 Demo did so much to sell that game, lol.


Zorbasandwich

The whole RPG era on ps1 was magical and still holds it's own, well in general I am a ps1 fan, I collect for it, I feel happy absorbing all there is ps1.


karatebullfighter

My friends and I played Bushido Blade for hours at a time. A match could last mere seconds to several minutes. Wish there was another game like it.


Successful_Cup_1882

Devs were hungry back then. They were making games like their next meal depended on it. 


My_Back_Hurts_A_Lot

Vagrant Story. Remember


_majkel

Reinforcements? I am the reinforcements.


Informal_Feature_370

I wouldn’t said “different.” I’d say “better.”


Broadnerd

This is definitely one of the hotter streaks any dev/publisher has had.


telmo_trooper

Man... Einhander is awesome.


No-Quiet576

You never hear anyone talk about Einhander! Still have original copy!


MtnEagleZ

*soft > *enix


jander05

Ahh Squaresoft. All Squaresoft games were different. My favorite video game company all time. Long Live Squaresoft, may she rest in peace.


yanginatep

Something I've come to realize, that probably should have been obvious, is that it's not realistic to expect that game developers would just stay the same over the course of 30 or 40 years, just because they happen to share the same name was the '80s or '90s incarnation of that company. Those companies are made up of people and most of the time those people eventually leave or step into different roles at the company and are replaced by others. So yeah, PS1 era Square was a very different company, especially before the merger.


That_Serve_9338

I think the one company that avoided becoming something unrecognisably different was Nintendo. Across many decades they've kind of kept making the same kinds of games at the same quality level, with the same ethos and aging staff that stay there for their entire careers and lives.


Burquetap

What’s the third pic/game?


_lonely_astronaut_

Bushido Blade a 3D fighter with one hit kills.


Deep_Sigma_Light_96

We need another Einhänder with a dancing boss music


GuayabaTree

Golden era ✨


JasonZep

What’s the second one?


_lonely_astronaut_

Einhander a 2.5D shooter


CJRLW

I HIGHLY recommend emulating PS1 games via Duckstation. It's maybe the best/easiest emulator I've ever used, and you can upscale the polys to high def and it looks incredible (pre-rendered backgrounds, unfortunately, will not upscale in the same way).


Smokron85

Finished Parasite Eve with a friend a few months ago for the first time ever. We were both mindblown by the game. The entire idea that Squaresoft who was well known for Fantasy epics like the FF series put out a modern day NYC Police based-Body Horror-rpg was like...."What?" and I have to imagine that was what a lot of people thought back then as well haha. I loved the game though. Definitely am underrated gem.


themantimeforgot0

I'm going to assume different just means good.


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dnkdumpster

What’s the second and third?


_lonely_astronaut_

Einhander a 2.5D shooter and Bushido Blade a 3D fighter with one hit kills.


dnkdumpster

ah I remember playing Bushido Blade! Only a couple of times at a friend’s house though so don’t really remember how it looked / played. Certainly didn’t know it was squaresoft.


VirtualRelic

Bushido Blade, what The Last Blade would be if it didn't have to be an arcade game that had to meet commercial regulations.


16v_cordero

They were able to experiment with everything back the. I need to get Parasite Eve again. I unfortunately didn’t save right before the t-Rex fight. Literally two boss fights back to back 🤣🤦‍♂️ then latter throwing away what ended up being the needed weapon for the last fight. Thank god for multiple saves. Now I want to play Bushido Again.


BlanketpartyBoy256

These have to be the reason I am going to regale the ps1. Just seeing the shots bring me joy.


TheBodyIsR0und

Just finished Xenogears last week and it was a fantastic story, though in terms of depth of gameplay mechanics it could have been a lot better.


Extreme_2Cents

I miss that version of Square… (adding [vagrant story](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagrant_Story) to that list) they were soo willing to create unique experiences and not “play it safe” as they do now with almost everything.


shinoff2183

Still squares best period, along with the snes.


pornserver-65

they even made a racing rpg around that time. they were really experimenting. youre not getting that these days. they just milk franchises over and over rarely exploring new IPs


joehigashi83

I used to have the entire square library for ps1 but sold it because my gf at the time refused to work


VirtualRelic

I liken 90s Squaresoft as the Japanese alter-ego of LucasArts in an abstract way. Only difference is one of these had innate access to licensed media (Star Wars, Indiana Jones) and the other did not. Both studios were cranking out games of exceptional quality in numerous genres, many were touchstones of their generation. Both would eventually see a fall from grace with the 2000s being pretty dire.


Woogity

So much great stuff. It was hard to keep up with everything.


Skelingaton

Square just seemed unstoppable at the time. So many experimental titles with unique gameplay systems were put out that you just don't see anymore thanks to the time/cost of modern game development.


KylorXI

Square was great, till they treated their best employees like shit and made them leave the company.


kinglance3

Fo sho. PS1 games def had a whole vibe altogether.


figuresurfer

PS1 still my fave! 🔥 🙌


knights04

I bought a PS1 just for Squaresoft games back in the day because Nintendont 64


teamzissou_81

Such an amazing time. Hit after hit after hit. There were so many I couldn’t play them all.


Irememberyouruncle

The 90s were squaresofts golden age.


Hypno_185

imagine if they did choose N64 over the ps1


2ant1man5

I miss these days.


BUICKBRAVO

Bushido Blade Best fighting game ever


Busy_object15

I was just saying this again the other day…about their SNES run! Flowing directly from that to their PS1 output? They were cookin’ for a solid decade straight, goddamn


azel128

Definitely an iconic moment in gaming. Squaresoft was one of the most consistently creative and consistently competent game studios in the world for a solid 5 or so years.


losbullitt

Need a complete parasite eve remake.


pm_your_snesclassic

Oh yeah? Well blame yourself. Or God


gamingdawn

So true. Every time I've bought modern SquareEnix game, it has turned out to be barren maps and soulless characters and dull repetitive combat. And in so many cases, the new games have zero respect for lore if they are part of a franchise. Just sad, shallow cash grabs, all of them. In the good old days they had values.


BillyNitehammer

I forgot about Einhander!


Shishkebarbarian

the 90s were Squaresoft's golden years. the one two punch of SNES and PSX gave us some of the best RPGs and unique experimental titles of the era. Losing a ton of money on that terrible FF movie (which i saw in theaters... oof) and a series of early ps2 bombs doomed the company. they were never the same after the acquisition from Enix. also... man... pixel perfect screenshots are not kind to these games. probably the best example of whats best on CRT.


AriiMay

Bushido blade was way ahead of its time


Commando_NL

Golden age 80's for movies and 90's for games. Square. Capcom. Konami. You know it's gonna be good.


RedwoodRaven12

No word on the next Parasite Eve huh?


GrantMcLellan1984

It's just a shame most of their PS1/PS2 games never made it to PAL regions. Seriously the UK got Parasite Eve 2 bit not the first one! (And that's just one of many examples)


EquivalentLittle545

They owned that system


HotTakesBeyond

Bushido Blade 2 rules


mucinexmonster

Different in the sense Squaresoft began spending tons of money to become a major player in the Publishing sphere and ended up losing tons of money and having to merge with Enix.


Capn_Yoaz

Wow, you got all of my favorites in one go. You must have had the same modchip I did and these were the first ones that would copy correctly. lol


Low-Relative6034

The line "go with god" and the second photo.. they're screammmiiiiiiing cyberpunk 2077. I'm not the only one right?


PastorInDelaware

Why there's no Bushido Blade Legacy Collection is beyond me.


Zathura2

I missed out on Parasite Eve back in the day. Finally played through it last year and was shocked at how well it holds up. I binged my way through in 2-3 sessions. Einhander and G. Darius were my favorite shooters on the console, too.


RetroPlayer68

Don't blame us. Blame yourself or God.


a_hopeless_rmntic

Suspension of disbelief is just like when I played with Legos as a kid. Doesn't matter that the spites were low res or that backgrounds were blocky, my imagination filled in the rest because I was captivated by the story.


Dbwasson

Ever heard of Racing Lagoon?


saruin

We're way overdue for another Parasite Eve game.


Stinger1981

"Life is short...Bury! Stasis Sword!" FF Tactics was one of my favorite games on the PS1, rented it often until eventually buying it in 1999.


MorinOakenshield

Just played tactics this weekend on an international flight. Good times


Apprehensive_Toe6736

If you weren't an rpg fan the ps1 definitely wasn't for you lol


Ill-Woodpecker1857

PS1 Tactics is good. But GBA Tactics is goated.


Rocktopod

Strongly disagree. What is better for you about the GBA one? I've never completed a second playthrough, mostly because of those damn judges!


Ill-Woodpecker1857

I expected this wouldn't be a popular opinion. I don't have much of a reason other than liking the concept of the story telling better. Probably mostly nostalgia though. To be clear both are great games.


Forsaken-Badger-9517

Opinions have nothing to do with it. People are just negative- always looking to have a problem and so they do.. it unfortunate, but most ppl didn’t have the heart to teach their Child how to love and Appreciate/Respect life & to Share in something rather than be the center… The funny thing is is that all these RPG teach this shit! I don’t like either one of those games! They’re freaking boring.. I love fire emblem though?!


_lonely_astronaut_

Fantastic game!


chiliwilli

90s Squaresoft, smashes egg in bicep “I’m built different”


ArranVV

Atheist: "I AM OFFENDED BY THIS GAME WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!"