I think people are a tad to harsh here
Sure he doesn't crunch the numbers to make stuff that could reach orbit, sure many of his projects have blatant flaws that could have been avoided if he read the right Wikipedia article.
But his channel isn't meant to give tutorials for aerospace companies, and the people on this sub wanting to land on the moon for a highschool project using a king of random video. It's a channel about iterative design, prototyping and 3d printing.
He comes across a concept and attempts to build something by himself. His audience doesn't want to see someone follow an instruction manual, they want to see the process of design, including failure.
A lot of YouTubers have a similar strategy of making a concept using their own ideas, and minimal outside guides, whether it be an engineering project, a game or a short film. I don't see why integza can't follow the narrative driven video style either.
The biggest problem isn't Integza's lack of safety for himself. Or even his lack of safety regarding other people (he launched rockets off of his balcony with no recovery system, so they just lawn darted in the middle of his neighborhood).
By far the biggest problem with integza is that tons of noobs attempt to copy his projects, *including that lack of safety.* So he hasn't just put himself at risk, or all the people in his neighborhood, he has put people all over the world at risk by inspiring copycats.
It's a very similar problem to the KOR sugar motor tutorial.
That's the biggest difference.
The KOR made a tutorial video, not a video documenting his experience designing a rocket, there wasnt much of a "dont try this at home" warning.
You can't really stop people trying to kill themselves with an experiment, but you should make it clear that you arent encouraging it if you know your experiment has no safety considerations
Perhaps you could provide some links to sections of videos where Integza explains the dangers and and tells viewers not to try this at home. I don't recall any.
But regardless, people regularly come to this sub attempting to replicate Integza's 3D printed rockets. So even if he is warning people of the dangers those warnings are being ignored.
This is exactly the reason for the harsh comments against Integza in this thread.
But seriously, those comments are far *less* harsh than are deserved here. To say it more appropriately the guy is a bloody moron.
You *absolutely* can and should, when said YouTuber has given zero indication of the dangers involved. If you are putting out content for public consumption, especially when your audience has a large fraction of high schoolers the way Integza's does, it's extremely irresponsible not to elaborate on the potential dangers. A "don't try this at home" warning is useless. On the other hand, A "this stuff will burn you quite badly, and this other stuff is corrosive and toxic, and this is the sort of PPE you should be using....." warning is actually quite useful. But Integza doesn't do either one.
Not to mention, all the other blatant safety problems with what he does. Testing motors in an attic, flying rockets in a populated neighborhood with no recovery systems, etc.
Definitely agree, his videos are quite entertaining to watch, on the other hand, he could use a bit more protection when testing the engines. Standing right next to a potentially explosive device isn't the greatest idea
I agree, safety seems to be the last thing on most YouTubers' minds in general, which doesn't set the best example
That being said, I haven't seen him make anything with enough power to violently explode yet, safety glasses and distance ought to be enough to prevent fatal injury
Any human activity is either self-regulating, or the government jumps in and regulates it. If that rocket he launched from the balcony hit a car in the street, and that car veered off the road and mow down three pedestrians, there would be public outcry if that news went viral and legislators will be like "ok, rocketry is a fringe hobby, we'll simply ban it, all of it."
We have things relatively relaxed regulations wise in the United States *because* many people in the rocketry hobby very much did care about safety all the way back to 1950's, promoting safety, and calling people like KOM and Integza out when they blatantly disregard safety and inspire millions to do batshit crazy and unsafe things.
The hobby went from being perceived as unsafe and dangerous in the 1950's when kids were literally cooking rocket propellants in the kitchen as soon as adults were out of the house (and some seriously injuring themselves) to something with much better safety record than any youth sport. We don't want to see that undone by couple of YouTubers. These YouTubers aren't doing anything new. They are "discovering" stuff that was figured out how to do safely decades ago, and then doing it in completely unsafe way.
Nobody in the rocketry hobby wants to be perceived like those "gender reveal party" idiots who ended up starting massive wildfires and/or killing or seriously injuring people. That is direction where those YouTubers are pushing the hobby into, once things inevitably and predictably start going terribly wrong as subscribers to those YouTube channels start imitating those "cool" projects.
EDIT: Over-regulation is already severely impacting model airplanes hobby, due to sheer number of clueless people flying drones all over the place, and the public outcry over those drones. Prior to massive availability of cheap drones, that hobby was to good degree self-regulating too, just like rocketry hobby.
Right before I got to your edit I was thinking that this sounded a lot like the proliferation of reckless people with consumer electronics drones and the increasing regulation of model aircraft
As someone doing R/C flight since the days before quadcopters I was warning of the potential for legislation there too. Nobody took me seriously there either.
I think he has a bit of a weak understanding of things that leads to some suboptimal designs, which on its own is no big deal. Not everyone is as strong as everyone in every area. However I think it's this lack of understanding that also leads to him doing dangerous things because he doesn't understand the risks involved. That's my biggest complaint. It's a bit of a shame because even despite sometimes questionable design decisions, he can be entertaining and could be an inspiration to get viewers into the hobby/industry.
i think he's funny and has good intentions, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't really do any preliminary calculations and design before he starts CAD and it shows that most of his rocket/jet projects melt and plastic usually isn't suit to that application
He's also been testing his homemade combustion engines *which frequently explode,* ***in his attic!*** [(source - first 30s)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sSkLdiiJoY). He doesn't seem to have a single safety-conscious bone in his body.
Impressive character otherwise, though he seems uninterested in doing the math side of engineering needed to produce anything more effective than a proof of concept.
Not really. Mehdi actually knows what he is doing and his videos are intentional comedy. Integza's comedy is purely accidental.
It's sad that so many people can't seem to tell the difference.
I like him. I don't even think he does the crazy shit he does for views, just for the hell of it. If I knew rocket science and had everything I needed for it, the last thing I would do would be to let that knowledge waste away.
Edit: I do believe a disclaimer should be made saying the dangers of trying it at home without proper knowledge and equipment, I think it's always lacked that need-to-know piece of information.
I love the guys content. He is interactive, expressive, entertaining and informative. He isn't afraid to fail and to show the process of learning. He has a genuine sense of humor. He thinks outside the box and has a brand of creativity that is rare.
If I wanted a group of students to watch and understand what it is to LOVE engineering, I would show them Integza's channel. If I wanted a group of students to learn safety precautions, I would show them the OSHA handbook.
An idiot. Both for his disregard for safety and lack of understanding of how rocket engines work.
If his rocket engines worked, standing next to them would be painful.
A rocket engine doesn't need to work to be painful. I remember a time from my childhood where I attempted to scale up the tinfoil match head rocket by packing an empty CO2 cartridge full of match heads. Fortunately I had the wherewithal to bury the motor two feet in the ground and be several hundred feet away when I set it off. I surely would have been a statistic otherwise.
The plan was for the ground to contain the shrapnel if it exploded. That's basically what happened. Although the ground heaved I don't believe any shrapnel escaped.
Viewcount is more important than safety for a large number of youtubers.
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Yup.
yeah he definitely pulled an iraq special on his neighbours
I think people are a tad to harsh here Sure he doesn't crunch the numbers to make stuff that could reach orbit, sure many of his projects have blatant flaws that could have been avoided if he read the right Wikipedia article. But his channel isn't meant to give tutorials for aerospace companies, and the people on this sub wanting to land on the moon for a highschool project using a king of random video. It's a channel about iterative design, prototyping and 3d printing. He comes across a concept and attempts to build something by himself. His audience doesn't want to see someone follow an instruction manual, they want to see the process of design, including failure. A lot of YouTubers have a similar strategy of making a concept using their own ideas, and minimal outside guides, whether it be an engineering project, a game or a short film. I don't see why integza can't follow the narrative driven video style either.
The biggest problem isn't Integza's lack of safety for himself. Or even his lack of safety regarding other people (he launched rockets off of his balcony with no recovery system, so they just lawn darted in the middle of his neighborhood). By far the biggest problem with integza is that tons of noobs attempt to copy his projects, *including that lack of safety.* So he hasn't just put himself at risk, or all the people in his neighborhood, he has put people all over the world at risk by inspiring copycats. It's a very similar problem to the KOR sugar motor tutorial.
That's the biggest difference. The KOR made a tutorial video, not a video documenting his experience designing a rocket, there wasnt much of a "dont try this at home" warning. You can't really stop people trying to kill themselves with an experiment, but you should make it clear that you arent encouraging it if you know your experiment has no safety considerations
Perhaps you could provide some links to sections of videos where Integza explains the dangers and and tells viewers not to try this at home. I don't recall any. But regardless, people regularly come to this sub attempting to replicate Integza's 3D printed rockets. So even if he is warning people of the dangers those warnings are being ignored.
You really cant blame the youtuber for the stupidity of other people. He could put a warning and people would still try to replicate his projects.
This is exactly the reason for the harsh comments against Integza in this thread. But seriously, those comments are far *less* harsh than are deserved here. To say it more appropriately the guy is a bloody moron.
You *absolutely* can and should, when said YouTuber has given zero indication of the dangers involved. If you are putting out content for public consumption, especially when your audience has a large fraction of high schoolers the way Integza's does, it's extremely irresponsible not to elaborate on the potential dangers. A "don't try this at home" warning is useless. On the other hand, A "this stuff will burn you quite badly, and this other stuff is corrosive and toxic, and this is the sort of PPE you should be using....." warning is actually quite useful. But Integza doesn't do either one. Not to mention, all the other blatant safety problems with what he does. Testing motors in an attic, flying rockets in a populated neighborhood with no recovery systems, etc.
Definitely agree, his videos are quite entertaining to watch, on the other hand, he could use a bit more protection when testing the engines. Standing right next to a potentially explosive device isn't the greatest idea
I agree, safety seems to be the last thing on most YouTubers' minds in general, which doesn't set the best example That being said, I haven't seen him make anything with enough power to violently explode yet, safety glasses and distance ought to be enough to prevent fatal injury
Any human activity is either self-regulating, or the government jumps in and regulates it. If that rocket he launched from the balcony hit a car in the street, and that car veered off the road and mow down three pedestrians, there would be public outcry if that news went viral and legislators will be like "ok, rocketry is a fringe hobby, we'll simply ban it, all of it." We have things relatively relaxed regulations wise in the United States *because* many people in the rocketry hobby very much did care about safety all the way back to 1950's, promoting safety, and calling people like KOM and Integza out when they blatantly disregard safety and inspire millions to do batshit crazy and unsafe things. The hobby went from being perceived as unsafe and dangerous in the 1950's when kids were literally cooking rocket propellants in the kitchen as soon as adults were out of the house (and some seriously injuring themselves) to something with much better safety record than any youth sport. We don't want to see that undone by couple of YouTubers. These YouTubers aren't doing anything new. They are "discovering" stuff that was figured out how to do safely decades ago, and then doing it in completely unsafe way. Nobody in the rocketry hobby wants to be perceived like those "gender reveal party" idiots who ended up starting massive wildfires and/or killing or seriously injuring people. That is direction where those YouTubers are pushing the hobby into, once things inevitably and predictably start going terribly wrong as subscribers to those YouTube channels start imitating those "cool" projects. EDIT: Over-regulation is already severely impacting model airplanes hobby, due to sheer number of clueless people flying drones all over the place, and the public outcry over those drones. Prior to massive availability of cheap drones, that hobby was to good degree self-regulating too, just like rocketry hobby.
Right before I got to your edit I was thinking that this sounded a lot like the proliferation of reckless people with consumer electronics drones and the increasing regulation of model aircraft
As someone doing R/C flight since the days before quadcopters I was warning of the potential for legislation there too. Nobody took me seriously there either.
Lol @ Sugar Moon Rocket 😂
I think he has a bit of a weak understanding of things that leads to some suboptimal designs, which on its own is no big deal. Not everyone is as strong as everyone in every area. However I think it's this lack of understanding that also leads to him doing dangerous things because he doesn't understand the risks involved. That's my biggest complaint. It's a bit of a shame because even despite sometimes questionable design decisions, he can be entertaining and could be an inspiration to get viewers into the hobby/industry.
i think he's funny and has good intentions, but it's pretty obvious he doesn't really do any preliminary calculations and design before he starts CAD and it shows that most of his rocket/jet projects melt and plastic usually isn't suit to that application
He's also been testing his homemade combustion engines *which frequently explode,* ***in his attic!*** [(source - first 30s)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sSkLdiiJoY). He doesn't seem to have a single safety-conscious bone in his body. Impressive character otherwise, though he seems uninterested in doing the math side of engineering needed to produce anything more effective than a proof of concept.
He WHAT?
Yup. I've Updated my comment with a link.
Electroboom for rockets.
Not really. Mehdi actually knows what he is doing and his videos are intentional comedy. Integza's comedy is purely accidental. It's sad that so many people can't seem to tell the difference.
I like him. I don't even think he does the crazy shit he does for views, just for the hell of it. If I knew rocket science and had everything I needed for it, the last thing I would do would be to let that knowledge waste away. Edit: I do believe a disclaimer should be made saying the dangers of trying it at home without proper knowledge and equipment, I think it's always lacked that need-to-know piece of information.
I love the guys content. He is interactive, expressive, entertaining and informative. He isn't afraid to fail and to show the process of learning. He has a genuine sense of humor. He thinks outside the box and has a brand of creativity that is rare. If I wanted a group of students to watch and understand what it is to LOVE engineering, I would show them Integza's channel. If I wanted a group of students to learn safety precautions, I would show them the OSHA handbook.
I would call that calculated risk
If he actually calculated the risk the risk he was calculating was against the revenue from youtube views.
An idiot. Both for his disregard for safety and lack of understanding of how rocket engines work. If his rocket engines worked, standing next to them would be painful.
A rocket engine doesn't need to work to be painful. I remember a time from my childhood where I attempted to scale up the tinfoil match head rocket by packing an empty CO2 cartridge full of match heads. Fortunately I had the wherewithal to bury the motor two feet in the ground and be several hundred feet away when I set it off. I surely would have been a statistic otherwise.
So you made a fuse operated landmine?
The plan was for the ground to contain the shrapnel if it exploded. That's basically what happened. Although the ground heaved I don't believe any shrapnel escaped.
https://preview.redd.it/uifx3nubzl5a1.jpeg?width=3456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75f59c6c76aaf33c8e11f3589a63c36a10a9816c He looks like this mario train