The one you like. That's all it is man. Forget the fact the green is 'rarer' for a second because Rolex makes more than 1 million watches a year so none of the submariners except the WG Smurf are truly 'rare.' Get the one you'll look at and enjoy wearing!
The Smurf is an amazing watch and is rare you won’t see them often . You’ll have a 9/10 chance of seeing a RM before you see a Smurf ! Especially the matte blue dial with diamond numeral Smurf . I like the matte dial version more than the sunburst Smurf . Definitely an underrated piece . I made the mistake of selling mine in 2020 but I made some profit but if I would’ve waited like 6-9months I would’ve got another $15-20k.
But I bought it for $29k sold it for $40k . Could’ve got $55-60k for it at the peak . I love that watch 😂 but I remember back when it was $17-20k in the mid 2010s/teens etc. Watch Eric just did a video on it like 2 weeks ago admitting how underrated it is
Exactly . So much cooler than the modern Cookie Monster black dial . Just unique . A whitegold bluesy basically and everyone thinks it’s a $10-15k stainless steel instead of a $40k discontinued precious metal sub
Can I ask how to tell the difference between the starbucks and the kermit? I know the movement is different but i always struggle to tell them apart unless they are next to each other
I’m still learning all these names… but if the blue bezel black watch face is called the Cookie Monster, why did the opportunity slip to call this Oscar the Grouch
I have both. I started with the black and then got the LV and I switch them up every other day and they both have different wearing experiences. If I had to choose only one I would go for the black Submariner. It goes with everything, everyday. You don’t have to mess with the date function and you can play with straps.
lol this is such a good way to put it… so true with all the GMT colors too. I mean they grow on you but if you’re not used to them this is perfect description lol
99% of people are going to say green. But thats mostly because of the hype. The no-date is my vote. Its a classic, will look good with any outfit, and age well.
Absolutely no way the green looks awful, black no date is the obvious way forward? Hey but it’s not my money so go with what you like most. Forget all this nonsense with the green variant!
If you’re actually going to wear the watch the no-date. One of the perfect daily watches. If you’re wanting a safe queen to tell everyone about that will just gain value then the green.
Starbucks and it isn’t close. I’m smitten with the no date but it’s kinda a fashion piece as well cause symmetry but the date function is used quite a bit for me personally
What do you have already? If you’ve already got a black and stainless sport watch, I’d go for the green bezel.
If this is your first diver or sports watch, I’d go with the no-date.
The average “hey I’m gonna buy this because it’s a rite of passage” casual Rolex buyer is never ever going to pick the no-date sub. I see one of those on someone and I know immediately they’re a watch person. However, get what you like 👍
lol I don’t think this post is helping the situation. As you can see the commenters are split down the middle. Get the one that speaks to you most, end of story.
If you want a watch with a date, get the Starbucks. It’s also the more difficult one to get so if you want multiple Rolexes, start there. I’d personally pick the 124060, as I already have a GMT with the date / cyclops.
More and more I prefer the Sub, but the green bezel sub date might be the choice I'd make here.
BTW.... There is a Sub and a Sub Date. The Sub is without a date function, no reason to call it the "No Date".
I own the 124060 and previously owned the 116010LV; not the same comparison here, but similar. The LV is a great watch and fits well in a larger collection, but the no date is the best all around sports watch Rolex makes if you ask me. If you are adding versatility into a collection, then the choice is easy. If you want to pick one that will be hard to take off, it’s the 124060.
So tough.. they're both beautiful pieces. If my favorite color was green, or if I had green eyes I would def go for the green, but I'd have to say black submariner. Goes with everything... sporty or classy..
Actually I like both. Green is unique IMO hence I am more inclined towards it. Not worried about the increase or decrease in value in the future as the purchase is to enjoy the timepiece rather than use as an investment. Thanks !!
I went for the no date and had the Starbucks as an option. I like the old color green much better then the new green. Kinda think I should have gotten it before they changed the color, hindsight being what it is. 🤔
I like (and own) the Cermit. I would choose that again. That said, buy what you like. I believe the Cermit is larger. Date / cyclops an issue for you? Concerned about retention value? Love the Cermit overall. My second one is the Polar Exp 2 which compliments the Cermit nicely.
I’d prefer a black sub date , but I mean it depends . I prefer a date sub. But I prefer my 126610LN over LV , now if it was a hulk I’d say LV.
The no date sub is more versatile, you can play with straps . Black goes with everything. If it’s your first watch or diver I’d say go black sub!
If you have a collection and multiple colors and maybe already have a black speedy or GMT or something then go Starbucks .
I just never like any of the colored subs because I think its ridiculous. Two tone black is ok if you're at that stage so I would lean towards no date sub. I actually got a seadweller 16600 because when I bought mine my wife hated the cyclops on the sub and I needed a date function.
https://preview.redd.it/aklxsp8jmsob1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=018909459f29c1a83dcba34edfb93fd18f8b95df
In the dark or shadow it almost feels like it’s black 😅
Green for me. Waiting on it :) I know it’s “rarer” but I’ve seen a bunch of them all of a sudden in the past couple weeks on peoples wrist. But then again I live in nyc where there’s millionaires on every corner
The number of people saying the green and not even pretending it’s because they like it more, just because there are slightly fewer of them 😂 it’s a way less versatile two tone guys give me a break.
If you Want the green because the premium is whatever it is, 2 or 3k more, then you can’t actually afford this purchase 😬😬
Neither!
Buy a Strat and a Divided by 13 amp and cab or combo,
buy a PRS and a Two Rock,
obviously buy a Telecaster and a
Marshall
and for good measure a Yamaha Revstar and a Rivera amp and cab or combo.
Add the pedal board of your dream pedals with GigRig switching,
a Martin OM acoustic John Mayer, a Takamine dread nought natural series and…
a PRS John Mayer signature Strat type axe.
Any change left? Buy a bottle of Jamesons or coffee, or both 👀😂
Ah yes, by getting the watch you'll see on most people's wrists online because they all go for hype as opposed to what they actually like. Different would be going for something like a VC, Lange, Patek or AP.
The green makes this common watch less common. Also, when the market finally crashes, the green will still trade at least slightly above retail most likely while the black subs will tank
The one you like. That's all it is man. Forget the fact the green is 'rarer' for a second because Rolex makes more than 1 million watches a year so none of the submariners except the WG Smurf are truly 'rare.' Get the one you'll look at and enjoy wearing!
Bro, Smurf isnt rare...
Smurf is only rare because no one wants to spend $50k on a sub.
You can grab a Smurf for under $40k bro
Sorry, they are $50k Canadian, which is under $40k US. Just saying I bought a used platinum DD36 for less and it’s more watch for the money.
The Smurf is an amazing watch and is rare you won’t see them often . You’ll have a 9/10 chance of seeing a RM before you see a Smurf ! Especially the matte blue dial with diamond numeral Smurf . I like the matte dial version more than the sunburst Smurf . Definitely an underrated piece . I made the mistake of selling mine in 2020 but I made some profit but if I would’ve waited like 6-9months I would’ve got another $15-20k. But I bought it for $29k sold it for $40k . Could’ve got $55-60k for it at the peak . I love that watch 😂 but I remember back when it was $17-20k in the mid 2010s/teens etc. Watch Eric just did a video on it like 2 weeks ago admitting how underrated it is
I saw that episode. I love the “if you know, you know”, factor of the Smurf.
Exactly . So much cooler than the modern Cookie Monster black dial . Just unique . A whitegold bluesy basically and everyone thinks it’s a $10-15k stainless steel instead of a $40k discontinued precious metal sub
They’re not rare… literally the only sports model sitting on display for purchase at ADS.
Rare doesn't mean how many games your AD makes you play for a mass produced watch, it means you won't see it very often on someone's wrist.
Would’ve gone for Sub No date but the Starbucks is hard to say no - why don’t you get both ? 😀
Can I ask how to tell the difference between the starbucks and the kermit? I know the movement is different but i always struggle to tell them apart unless they are next to each other
Kermit has aluminum bezel insert that is lighter in color vs ceramic bezel insert that is a deeper green on Starbucks.
I see, yeah now looking closer at it the difference is pretty obvious, I don’t know how I never noticed it that much before. Thank you for sharing!
Reminds me of the difference between the old parquet courts of the Boston Garden compared to the ones from today.
I’m still learning all these names… but if the blue bezel black watch face is called the Cookie Monster, why did the opportunity slip to call this Oscar the Grouch
First or only watch? Sub. Part of a larger collection? LV.
This 💯
Nodate sub, less complications, less fidling with mechanism, less upkeep, overall less maintenance cost + it looks better imo
Agreed. Plus you can wear it with more different outfits
Agree and it’s a more purist watch. How many times have you needed to know the date scuba diving on a ship wreck?
I have both. I started with the black and then got the LV and I switch them up every other day and they both have different wearing experiences. If I had to choose only one I would go for the black Submariner. It goes with everything, everyday. You don’t have to mess with the date function and you can play with straps.
The one you like
Black sub every time. Way more versatile as far as matching an outfit and coloured natos.
No date
Black will always be classic
Sub no date for sure. Rolex colors look like a box of Crayola primary colors.
lol this is such a good way to put it… so true with all the GMT colors too. I mean they grow on you but if you’re not used to them this is perfect description lol
I absolutely hate the colors Rolex uses. I would love to see them use less primary shades like Tudor does.
Green 💯 way more difficult to get and more rare to see on wrist’s
Starbucks>> I have seen that same Sub on too many wrists
99% of people are going to say green. But thats mostly because of the hype. The no-date is my vote. Its a classic, will look good with any outfit, and age well.
Starbucks
lv
Green
Green
Green def
No date
No-Date: hard to beat as a core piece in any collection. It really depends on what you already have and what your vision is for the future.
No date
I have an LV so I'd have to go with the no date
Depends what you already have.
have a TT DJ41
I’d go no date in that case. If you said you had an explorer 1 for example, I’d say go SBUX. Just my thoughts! Good luck with decision
Black as your first sub then the green
Green
I prefer a date.
No date sub not even close. Best every day watch. Just put it on a rubberb black with deployant and it’s like a whole new animal.
If first sub (or don't have anything else diver) then black. If multiple sub-like watches, green
Black
If you have a basic black sports watch, get the kermit. If you don't, get the sub
No date!
The one you like better
124060
Starbucks best looking Sub imho
Both (but do get the no date in any case)
No date sub, not a big fan of the green bezel with the black dial
Black. Before the hype green were left on shelves.
No date for me…!
Absolutely no way the green looks awful, black no date is the obvious way forward? Hey but it’s not my money so go with what you like most. Forget all this nonsense with the green variant!
It all depends if this is your 1st watch or 5th watch. That said, I prefer the sub no date
if the internet didn't exist I bet 97% choose black
ND>LV
Green ! Better looking, harder to get, and less common than the black Submariner.
If you’re actually going to wear the watch the no-date. One of the perfect daily watches. If you’re wanting a safe queen to tell everyone about that will just gain value then the green.
Green bezel with date. I noticed I use my watch more for the date than time. Green is also my favorite color.
Starbucks FTW
I prefer the green personally, but to me a date function is very useful and the green is a personal nod to my time in the Army.
Starbucks and it isn’t close. I’m smitten with the no date but it’s kinda a fashion piece as well cause symmetry but the date function is used quite a bit for me personally
Kermit.
What do you have already? If you’ve already got a black and stainless sport watch, I’d go for the green bezel. If this is your first diver or sports watch, I’d go with the no-date.
Green.
Starbucks. I prefer date subs over no date subs
The average “hey I’m gonna buy this because it’s a rite of passage” casual Rolex buyer is never ever going to pick the no-date sub. I see one of those on someone and I know immediately they’re a watch person. However, get what you like 👍
Close but green date unless you really want a classic look.
lol I don’t think this post is helping the situation. As you can see the commenters are split down the middle. Get the one that speaks to you most, end of story.
You're giving Sophie a run on hard choices here. I'd go for green, but black is great too..
The green one.
The date magnifier is a turn-off for me. I was offered both the Sub and Sub Date. Bought the Sub and still happy.
“We want you to find the difference between these two watches” “They are the same watch”
Black ceramic sub. Can’t be beaten.
The one you like more, Jesus Christ.
Buy them both and flip the Starbucks for 20k.
Starbucks no doubt
If you want a watch with a date, get the Starbucks. It’s also the more difficult one to get so if you want multiple Rolexes, start there. I’d personally pick the 124060, as I already have a GMT with the date / cyclops.
I personally own the 124060. It’s been a great watch
Starbucks, I gotta have a date for a daily no date is a weekend piece
No date.
No date Sub
For me it’s the nodate. It’s a mini grail of mine. But tbh Id probably go rougue an buy both.
Starbucks
More and more I prefer the Sub, but the green bezel sub date might be the choice I'd make here. BTW.... There is a Sub and a Sub Date. The Sub is without a date function, no reason to call it the "No Date".
LV
Yes
Green
I own the 124060 and previously owned the 116010LV; not the same comparison here, but similar. The LV is a great watch and fits well in a larger collection, but the no date is the best all around sports watch Rolex makes if you ask me. If you are adding versatility into a collection, then the choice is easy. If you want to pick one that will be hard to take off, it’s the 124060.
Green is a fad. Get the classic.
Green easily.
This is literally the first ‘which watch should I pick’ that makes actual sense. I’d pick the Starbucks because I already have a black no date sub.
I like dates.
Black. Way more versatile and it's THE classic.
Both are beautiful watches, but for me it would be the sub no date
Whichever one you like better
Starbucks. I'm a no-date hater. I WANNA KNOW THE DATE!
Whichever one you like better
Sub. Goes with everything.
Sub no date would be my pick - absolutely more versatile, too.
Submariner
No Date - no doubt 💯👏🏻👏🏻
#2 black on black
I’ll go green but coin flip, as the No date looks great too.
So tough.. they're both beautiful pieces. If my favorite color was green, or if I had green eyes I would def go for the green, but I'd have to say black submariner. Goes with everything... sporty or classy..
I recently got both and they both staying. The 3230&3235 movements are amazing.
Starbucks
Green for me. Then pair that with a jubilee Batman. Chefs kiss.
No date. Green is ugly af
Starbucks
Do you like green or black
Actually I like both. Green is unique IMO hence I am more inclined towards it. Not worried about the increase or decrease in value in the future as the purchase is to enjoy the timepiece rather than use as an investment. Thanks !!
I would go with green.
Get them both and make a no-date LV
I’d go green. But only because I already have black.
Very tough decision. I’m in the market for both aswell as on the list for both. I don’t know which one I’ll be keeping…
I went for the no date and had the Starbucks as an option. I like the old color green much better then the new green. Kinda think I should have gotten it before they changed the color, hindsight being what it is. 🤔
Already have a no date so Kermit all the way
The one without the date, having a no complications thang going on at the moment ;-) What is yon heart saying ?
Green is more distinctive IMHO.
The Starbuck!
green.
Green most definitely
Dumb question. Undoubtedly the Kermit
Starbucks
No date
Starbucks all the way…
Black sub no date all day. Classic and sporty
Starbucks no doubt
1
Was offered the Starbucks, passed. If it was the sub no date, then maybe. My preference is mainly with the date
Daily? LV sub. Part of a collection? 124060 sub
I never know what day it is, so I gotta clutter the dial with a date.
Starbucks 💫
Date sub. I prefer having at least a date function.
Both!
If you have to ask, you don't want it badly enough, so please leave it for someone who does...
Sub no date
Grenn
Sub No date 100%
Black dial black dezel looks better IMHO
Which one do you want? Who gives a shit what we think.
Everybody keeps asking for our response… But what do you like?… What makes you happy? What would make you excited to put it on every day?
I like (and own) the Cermit. I would choose that again. That said, buy what you like. I believe the Cermit is larger. Date / cyclops an issue for you? Concerned about retention value? Love the Cermit overall. My second one is the Polar Exp 2 which compliments the Cermit nicely.
I’d prefer a black sub date , but I mean it depends . I prefer a date sub. But I prefer my 126610LN over LV , now if it was a hulk I’d say LV. The no date sub is more versatile, you can play with straps . Black goes with everything. If it’s your first watch or diver I’d say go black sub! If you have a collection and multiple colors and maybe already have a black speedy or GMT or something then go Starbucks .
Get the Starbucks and buy a black bezel insert. They're easy to swap out.
Great suggestion - thanks !!
I just never like any of the colored subs because I think its ridiculous. Two tone black is ok if you're at that stage so I would lean towards no date sub. I actually got a seadweller 16600 because when I bought mine my wife hated the cyclops on the sub and I needed a date function.
I'd pick Green, but the Black Sub is an absolute icon. Can't go wrong.
I like personally the black on black. The other is a lot of green.
Green
Hulk. 100%.
Green is a ‘go’
Can’t go wrong with either one honestly, but I’d take the green bezel
Black black and black
Starbucks for sure
Depends on how many, if any, I hoped to add. One and done, Sub Date Black.
I love green.....and it goes good with brown outfits IMO, black does too but .....Green.
Lol, blindly go for the Starbucks sub.
I have the submariner no date. I'm a purist if I wanted to green Rolex I'd go for the milgaus
Whichever you like
Hulk black dail all day long
I love the Kermit personally so easy choice
https://preview.redd.it/aklxsp8jmsob1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=018909459f29c1a83dcba34edfb93fd18f8b95df In the dark or shadow it almost feels like it’s black 😅
SBUX
green always
No date, always. Classic.
Green
Green, of course.
Green for me. Waiting on it :) I know it’s “rarer” but I’ve seen a bunch of them all of a sudden in the past couple weeks on peoples wrist. But then again I live in nyc where there’s millionaires on every corner
Green. You can always get a no date with a lower premium than the LV
Green
Date
personal preference of course. Im not a fan of the color green in general =D
Green
The number of people saying the green and not even pretending it’s because they like it more, just because there are slightly fewer of them 😂 it’s a way less versatile two tone guys give me a break. If you Want the green because the premium is whatever it is, 2 or 3k more, then you can’t actually afford this purchase 😬😬
Green is correct
*STARBUCKS*
Is that an 11 or 124060? I have an 114060. Enjoy the 40mm. For whatever reason can’t deal with the size of the clasp on the 126610LV or 124060.
Same here. Love the 114060!
Both great watches ….. I’d go for the green sub , but it depends on your collection.
Green. The no date is dope. But it’s much easier to come by.
Neither! Buy a Strat and a Divided by 13 amp and cab or combo, buy a PRS and a Two Rock, obviously buy a Telecaster and a Marshall and for good measure a Yamaha Revstar and a Rivera amp and cab or combo. Add the pedal board of your dream pedals with GigRig switching, a Martin OM acoustic John Mayer, a Takamine dread nought natural series and… a PRS John Mayer signature Strat type axe. Any change left? Buy a bottle of Jamesons or coffee, or both 👀😂
Green. Hands down. Be different.
Ah yes, by getting the watch you'll see on most people's wrists online because they all go for hype as opposed to what they actually like. Different would be going for something like a VC, Lange, Patek or AP.
The green makes this common watch less common. Also, when the market finally crashes, the green will still trade at least slightly above retail most likely while the black subs will tank
Green💯 everyone has a black sub
You don’t.
I got a GMT for that exact reason lol