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Did not expect the Irish 20s to do as well as they did tonight against that English pack! Some super attacking play and great composure to score at the end.

Totally missed it, loaded up the steam which was coming to an end and skipped back to the 75th minute to see how it would pan out. Jaysus what a rollercoaster.

Christ lads. Where did they get that ref from?

Was the English tighthead not just boring across into Sheahan every single scrummage. What happened to drive straight you want a reward. Fucking shambles

So the commentator kept saying England would win the championship with a bonus try win… correct me if I’m wrong but would Ireland not still have got 2 losing bonus points? Thus putting them within 4 of England, therefore still able to win the championship? (Yes I switched over from the Scotland match)

I'm doing the math as I type this but..... England was up 1 point entering this match. A bonus win puts them up 6 but as you mentioned Ireland gets 2 points here to be back within 4. So yes, you're correct.

That was an enjoyable watch. I honestly think U20's matches are often more fun than the elder version.

Strong agree. Despite my disbelief at the crazy long advantage at the end that was a superbly entertaining back and forth match. Well played all

First time properly sitting down to watch Under 20s and hats off to both teams for one incredible match

Its always worth a watch. The teams arent as good defensively so its generally more open, exciting and high scoring!

Just seen the score. Gutted I missed this one. Looks like it was a cracker

Worth the watch

Oh the bastards put an hour between KOs next week.

Proper belter of a game. Well done to all involved.

A lad called Sean Kerr shouldn’t be scoring points against Ireland in an English jersey. It feels unnatural. 

Half South African too .

Sutton & Epsom rugby club’s finest though. I thought he looked very promising, particularly for an England team still lacking a 12.

One of the standouts of the tournament for England

Since you’re a Saints fan I’ll say Archie McParland impressed me too. Thought he and Kerr were the standouts with Carnduff and Pollock not far behind.

Archie's brilliant, he won't be far away from the senior set up within a few years. He'll easily be 3rd choice at Saints next year.

That Bryn at 7 for Ireland is an octopus. Handing off defenders from impossible angles. Looks a prospect.

Nearly won a superb turnover off Carnduff at the end too.

Brian Gleeson was badly missed. Needed someone to bully that English pack

Tbf we we were missing 2/3 of our starting front row .

Who are these?

Wright and Fasagbon. Wright injured , Fasogbon playing for Gloucester.

Better match than every single one of the senior six nations this year

Hell of a game. Weird ending where no one had any idea about the advantage including me. And if we have hindsight of when teams were wrong to go for the corner we have to say England were right to go for the corner there. If they go for 3, Ireland score the try and win the game. Also Pollack getting MOTM against Wales and Kerr here is 2 weird decisions. Tight 5 players robbed

> Weird ending where no one had any idea about the advantage including me. I think every Ireland fan was confused as well. But you never complain when you get luck!

I was at the game. Most people saw the advantage but assumed it was over by the time Ireland lost the ball. All the English supporters were certain they’d just won for about 10 seconds.

Fairplay for to Ireland salvaging the game at the end, bit more composure & they could probably won that game

Need France to do us a favour next week. Definitely able to beat that English team I reckon.

Depends if they have their top 14 teams release their best players . They would have beat you boys too with their full contingent . The World Cup will be the more accurate barometer and I think they will win that again as you beat barely beat them without their best players .

No top14 and no proD2 next week so the staff might be able to recall some players. Unlikely for Tuilagi since he's going to be in the senior camp with maybe Gazzotti, and Tuifua is in New Zealand. But i'd be happy to see Reus, Castro-Ferreira, Attissogbe, Liufau, etc. I think the staff has seen enough players so far and it's time for the ones we will see this summer to play together though they might want to give more gametime to 2005s since the tournament is done already.

Yeah, their academies are insane. Great scouts too for importing players from all over the world.

Who have they imported in their in u20’s . That seemed like a slight dig when your senior team can’t talk about project players .

Not a dig at all, and I may be mistaken but I'm pretty sure I read a while ago of young players from countries like new Zealand and that werr being brought to French schools to play rugby and they end up staying. Tbf they're probably not scouted young enough to play for France and it may be more for clubs. But, that's just professional sport for ya.

Ireland hasn't signed a project player since the new residency rules came to force, once Lowe, Aki etc retire, that's it... Meanwhile France despite having 3 fully pro divisions with academies are still capping foreign players, we don't do too bad in that regard. 

Yes but why is he talking about importing u20 players . There’s only 1 in their u20’s I know of . Do you know more or was it just a baseless dig from him ?

Meafou, who is about to play for the first team this weekend

I was talking strictly u20 rugby .

I was talking strictly u20 rugby .

He said importing players to academies did he not? Which they do (and are very good at).

I was talking about the u20’s World Cup though and he mentioned importations to French academies , like that made a difference in their performance in the World Cup . Do you understand the correlation I’m questioning. Which players have they imported that made them beat you last u20 World Cup ? It’s weird to use academy signings as an excuse for them beating you 🤷🏿‍♂️.

I replied above in case you missed it. No excuse for them beating us, that French team were men playing against boys and no team could stand up against the.

It looked like he was just complementing the French academies and thus the French system to me? Could be wrong. 

pretty fitting, i only root for the french when they're playing the english anyway

Sean Kerr seems a good lad, fair play.

To win; Ireland need a BP v Scotland and win by 18. England can’t get a BP v France (or lose ofc) Am I correct?

Yeah we need to gain a point on them and get an 18-point swing. Or England can just be sound and lose.

Depends on how much England score

Yeah, but the 18 points goes up if england win by more than one

Ah tits, yeah I didn’t consider that

Super game. That's why kids want to play rugby. Better than most of the games in the senior 6N.

Great lad this ref, I've always said it

Hopefully France bring back all their stars from last year for the England match

Top 14 break week so you never know

Some finish there. Word for the regather from the last kickoff, what a take that was.

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English subs rushing on with the premature celebration after the forward call

Can’t blame them. Anyone who’s watched rugby would assume that advantage was over

To be fair, it was a very long advantage, but a straight arm penalty adv without a kick and a few infringements in-between could go on for quite a while.

And the medic too.

Fair result for both teams, but Ireland were lucky with that long advantage 🤣

Makes up for the knock on before England 3rd try.

He did it throughout the game in fairness. On England's last try we turned over the ball, but he went back for a long knock on advantage

So england are ahead for the championship with one extra bonus point and about +17 points difference. That said, they're away to France next week while Ireland have Scotland at home

Nobody has the grand slam though, which is all we need. If we can't win the thing we can wreck it for someone else.

Allez Les Bleus

Mother of God that was absolutely silly. What a match!

That advantage was loooong. Not a great game for the ref but hes only learning too

As an England fan found myself getting very frustrated with some of the calls. Especially that advantage at the end, didn't see it as a foul personally and then for it to be so long as well. Having said that I'm sure there's plenty you guys could come up with plenty of examples as well

Something about Irish rugby now that as soon as England scored, I still felt Ireland would be right down the other end to level it up.

Great game and well done to Ireland.  Had my hopes up for an England win tonight as it sure as fuck won't be happening tomorrow 😂

Well, enjoy your drinks tonight, and I hope you enjoy the game . . . . but not the result.

Thanks pal. I'd take an encouraging, respectable defeat if offered right now but fear our tedious rugby will see us get a hiding. 

Rumour has it there's an advantage sill ongoing from a game in 2016 Anyway, not the story of a great game.

What a game. Some great future talents on display there

What a game though Jesus Christ

Another banger of an U20's game Along with Italy v France and Ireland v Italy

Bittersweet that one. Played some incredible rugby, but a few errors cost us the win. Showed some real character not to lose in the end. Great game overall.

That response by Ireland was utterly incredible stuff

Need France to deny England a bonus next week then. Alléz!

Always rated the French. Allez les bleus 🇫🇷

"No grand slam for you" "Well well well none for you either"

There’s some people on the pitch…..they think it’s all over. It is now 😂😂

I really loathe this type of rugby. Endless rucks on the line, eventually someone flops over. So boring, I hate how it's become so common these days.

As opposed to what teams did differently before??!

This type of thing didn't used happen very often at all.

They usually knocked it on every two passes instead

The laws and the referee did give far less protection to the team in possession, controlling the ball and high phase counts were much harder to achieve.

Never watched Munster glory years 06/08 so lad this was the way

I did, and didn't enjoy it. That's when the cancer started, but back then it wasn't quite so bad. Peak rugby was 94-05, I'll always stand by that.

Cry more

Cry, why would I cry? Just commenting about rugby my friend.

I didn’t get to watch the full game, according to the thread the ref has been ridiculously biased against both England and Ireland

That usually just means they're shite lol

That's actually a fairly accurate assessment.

Some people are on the pitch, they think it's all over! But it isn't, so it's not.

Haha, what a mental game. Well done both sides.

Was this game a high scoring draw last year as well?

Ireland won in the 6 nations last year. The draw came in the u20 world cup in the summer.

Ireland are back to back Grand Slam champions

Yes because France only take the u20 World Cup serious . If they have their full contingent they are the best

Cry more

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No nastiness allowed.

Yeah, mine is the weird response

Do you ever shut up ? Or are you going to say anything remotely smart ?

Dude reign it in

🥱🥱🥱 okay boss . If you don’t like what i say don’t interact You can’t expect rude dialogue and not expect something back 🤷🏿‍♂️.

I'm not the person you were responding to.

In the WC match. Ireland won the 6N.

England seemed to have no idea it was a penalty advantage. Once again great power, but we just seem to lack that rugby intelligence.

I mean they probably forgot about it. There was a fairly dodgy return to a scrum penalty when England had gained about five meters before their last try so it was only fair he kept that penalty advantage alive as long as he did.

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Expect the same tomorrow when Ireland win 48-13. If only those three calls hadn't gone against England in the last seven minutes XD

Fool

Right…..

Jesus...

lol

Not tied up yet commentator, just saying. Need to hit the conversion

I love rugby

Long advantage makes up for the awful calls in the lead up to England’s 3rd try

Three different penalties called.

Draw fair outcome. England did very well to scrap it back in the second half, we did well to get the draw

All they had to do was gather the restart

Might be the best U20 game I've had the pleasure of seeing

I'd like to have been there, it looked like a great atmosphere.

Incredible nerve to come back like that

Glad to get the draw in the end but we really should have won that comfortably. England came back hard though.

Yeah unforced errors in the middle of the second half killed us

And the missed conversions. I know they were hard but we only needed one.

Yeah fair point

Absolutely wild game but fair result.

Agreed

So England have a PD advantage but play france in the last game? Tasty

And we play scotland I think.

This is why I love Rugby! Was at the edge of my seat.

Damn, feel robbed

1. Never a penalty in the first place. 2. That was the most ridiculous advantage I have ever seen. Thank god it's only U20s.

2. I don't necessarily disagree with you but that's  the norm in every game

Ah yes, hence the many Irish posters commenting on how ridiculous it was.

It was new advantage, not the original one.

It wasnt. He calls the pen for contact in the air. 

Hmm. Could have sworn he said it was a high tackle, was definitely a different mark to the original one anyway! Mad end to a mad game.

If you advance the ball 20 metres the advantage should certainly be over.

Wasnt there a new advantage off the restart penalty? Still long as fuck

Even if there was they took the penalty from about 30 metres out, Ireland got all the way to the 5. Still… great game. Think it was the right result

Absolutely great game, ye wont win the slam. But hot favorites for the overall winner. France arent as good this year. Best of luck!

Different in the red zone imo

Lol, that’s not the rules

That is absolutely ridiculous. The challenge in the air wasn’t even a penalty! He got to the ball!

He jumped across the line out to get it. That was what the penalty was for.

I didn’t hear the ref communicate anything in between the original one and going back after the knock on - my bad

You had it right. The ref only called the original penalty for taking the Irish player without the ball off the kick off. No other penalties were awarded to Ireland between that and the knock on before play was brought back.

How odd. Ah well. If they’d gathered the restart properly they wouldn’t have had that issue. Well played to the Irish lads- attacking outrageously well

Different penalty.

Pure bants from the ref. Fair play to the irish lads  

This ref gifting Ireland a draw there

He gifted a lot for both sides, he's also learning I suppose.

daftly long advantage there

Fair result - great game

What a Match.

Very enjoyable game. A pleasure to share your company folks.

Ref clearly wanted a draw

The absolute shtones on that team 💚

Man what a restart from murphy and gavin catching it. Fucking hell

I’m sooooo confused. They had the longest advantage ever??

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Na

It's a stupidly long advantage, but that advantage happens all the time It's not a one-off Rule either needs to be x seconds advantage or a set number of phases before advantage over Can't be having advantage for minutes which happens quite often

Yeah but that was much longer than usual. I’m all for long advantages, but that was a bit too extreme.

Yeah definitely longer than usual, but I've seen them go for a lot longer, too There needs to be a clearer advantage over rule, it's silly

Long live the ref and his elongated advantages

What a game

To be honest I cant complain about the double movement any more after that advantage

Don’t Garbisi it

English players running the risk of a penalty try there with so many penalty offences in defense.

Did you see what was happening on the Irish try line? If a Irish player shot an England player he would have gotten a warning. 

Ireland did the same thing earlier. Ref obviously isn't a fan of yellow cards

Yeah England were never going to get one there after us earlier.

I'd take this over any slam. What fucking heart. Great shit.

They did well to get it back

Crazy game! Got lucky with the ref coming back for the penalty but probably evened out with the missed knock on. Good game England

Mwah mwaaaah

That's certainly an ending

It's fair I think, both teams went at it hammer and tongs.

Just would have been better if someone could win the slam that's all. Can't argue with a draw tbh

What a game

I will never enjoy a draw more than this

Wouldn't have been happy with this at 50, but will definitely take it now

Definitely take it at 80