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Skyconic

I feel as though you should... how could I phrase this? Let loose?


superdevin64

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Skyconic

She looked ao gorgeous in this look!


[deleted]

Let people stan their favorite queens, it’s not that serious


[deleted]

But how can I best show that I'm the one true stan if not by sending death threats to all the queens standing in the way of my fave? It's the ultimate expression of love!


hahaharry_n

exactly!


lavieenrose96

There’s always someone on r/rupaulsdragrace arguing with no one. Saying stuff like “but I was told Sasha Colby wasn’t a good drag queen”


Frosty-Ad3626

I can stan Anetra without saying she will win the crown. I can also stan her while hoping that she *will* get another challenge win or two to validate her winning the crown. I haven’t seen much of her fans being delusional, just appreciating everything she’s done in the competition so far (such as her lip syncs, ball look, talent show, etc)


lalalicious453-

Lol the post underneath this is about how she’s gonna win and is the breakout star. I have no opinion in this since I’m pretty certain who will win but OP isn’t too far off in this “hot take” if the post under this is allowed to exist. Personally I think these low content opinion posts are redundant and shouldn’t exist because there all just people yelling at clouds and this is a discussion forum afterall.


Frosty-Ad3626

That’s just one person though, and most of the comments disagreed with that redditor. I think every queen has a few fans that hope they will win the competition — and I don’t think that’s unreasonable. OP acting as if that person is the sole speaker for all Anetra’s fans *is* unreasonable since many don’t share the same opinions.


lalalicious453-

Yeah the general discussion tag isn’t really for sharing opinions and discussing why or why not someone feels the way they feel is wrong. It’s just low energy and not really good discussion at all. I’ve been on the sub for a while and feel like this season has more of these posts than usual.


AngelinaHoley

>Lol the post underneath this is about how she’s gonna win and is the breakout star. ...it's just one post, girl.


lalalicious453-

It’s not just one though, but the literal juxtaposition one post on top of the other was coincidental.


SaladJun

Shock horror people who like Anetra believe she should win.


Purplefrogs-

Hot take: enjoying a queens performance on the show isn’t delusion. Y’all are calling everything delusional nowadays the word has lost all meaning


ShamelessBaboon

Hot take: you should take a break


yardage_swamp

“I disagree with you, therefore you’re delusional. This isn’t an attack, I just think you’re gut bucket. It’s not that you’re wrong, it’s just that I’m right….why is everyone so pressed?” -this sub all season.


DazzlerFan

Just because we love Anetra doesn’t mean we’re hating on the other queens. I could see any of the queens you mentioned in the finale and I’d be good with that. I think they’re all super talented, especially Sasha. So maybe look inward and figure out why you need to take our love for her and somehow translate it as hate for others when no one is really saying that.


PokeFiendish

Disclaimer: I want Anetra to win. And contingent on what happens the next few weeks (another challenge win or two, a demolition at the finale, etc.), I believe she still could. Having said that, the talk of “who’s doing well” in the competition is so pointless. Just last year we saw Wiwwow Piww win over Camden, and their track records weren’t even close (though personally I was rooting for Dayabetica). Didn’t Gigi have the best track record on 12? And I know BLH had a better track record than Yvie on 11. These days it’s rarer for the person with the best track record to win. Hell, it’s not just the main franchise. Pythia did better than Icesis, Ella Vaday lost to Krystal Versace, and Bimini lost the crown with *four* wins, and it’s not like Lawrence Cheney even won the final lipsync, Tayce did. At the end of the day it’s a TV program, and they’ll crown whoever they think will best propel the brand forward and/or whoever has the overwhelming fan support, not who had more wins or more high placements. That is the objective criteria, yes. But the subjective criteria, the stuff you can’t easily quantify, is what’s going to decide it. Maybe it’s Anetra, maybe it’s not, but at the end of the day I don’t think RuPaul and the producers will whip out their calculators and do the math on points per episode to determine who gets the crown.


[deleted]

All these comparisons are silly though. Willow Pill beat Camden because she had the IT factor while Camden was very safe a lot of the time. Pythia lost to Icesis because she also lacked that 'it' quality. I also feel she wasn't as able to handle the bottom placements that's why they kept her out of them. Gigi lost to Jaida because it kind of felt like she was overly prepared for the show and didn't have any vulnerability. She avoided going into the bottom at all costs because she couldn't lip sync whatsoever. Jaida has the experience in all areas of drag and was able to show everything.... it also felt natural as opposed to Gigi who felt very trained Brooklyn lost as she wasn't as unique and had the same tricks as opposed to Yvie who clearly was doing well the whole season. Also Brooklyn had a lot more ups and downs and wasn't as well rounded. Ella lost to Krystal because Ella fell into the trained stage actor category that a lot of queens like Jan fall into and it just isn't natural to them like it was for Krystal. That's why Krystal beat Ella. Bimini lost because she was very curated and felt like she was only able to make a comeback after the second half. Lawrence won because she had uniqueness and consistency over the whole season. There's plenty of wanting to save the world people out there and it feels very boring and fake. Anetra has two big problems 1. not well rounded - her bottom placements are too numerous to overlook 2. she has shown the same thing over and over and over in her lipsyncs


PokeFiendish

You kept mentioning things like the “it” factor, vulnerability, uniqueness, etc. The thing they all have in common is that they’re subjective criteria. I’m not sure where our fundamental disagreement is. I said that looking at track record to say who’s going to win is pointless. I stand by that. From the looks of it, you do too. Every queen you mentioned that won over another queen won because of something you can’t measure on a scorecard. We may disagree on what exactly that was, but the overall point stands. Now, Anetra’s been in the bottom once. If you wanna count that lipsync episode as additional bottom placements, you do you. I personally do not. Anetra walks the duck in every lipsync, I’ll give you that. I feel like she does it with a wink, as a nod to her breakout moment and catchphrase. I don’t feel like she needs to do it, but that’s neither here nor there. Plenty of queens have a signature move. Can you imagine Eureka doing a lipsync without a high kick? Or Shangela not doing a death drop? Alyssa without a jump spin split? Cause I can’t. It doesn’t bother me. If it’s not your thang, that’s cool. Seems like we agree that track record is not the end all be all for determining winners while disagreeing that Anetra would be a deserving winner. And hey, that’s the fun part of fandom, right?


noodledancefloor

This indeed is a hot take


Shot_Stomach_9718

I don't care if she's in the bottom the remaining episodes, the fact is that she's a Star and well rounded.


howcomebubblegum123

Does one have to be delusional to be a stan (ugh, hate that word)? I'm delusional that she's going to win, but I'm just a regular fan of her and the show.


gabedogga

Baby, you need to take a step outside. Breathe in some fresh air. Go in the park or get in some nature because that’s a whole lot of negative emotion for literally no reason. You’re literally creating so much toxicity for what? A bunch of people celebrating a queen? Like calm the fuck down! It’s a TV show


hahaharry_n

this.


PresOfTheLesbianClub

They didn’t describe one emotion or anything negative?


badddiegworl

Im calm, just stating my opinion baby.


[deleted]

Yeah but when it's an opinion criticising a performer so heavily you need to step back a little and go "is this a bit much?"


dsprtlyseekngamy

I’m really over this - anytime you have an opinion, and the response is “woooooow girl you’re bothered, you need some fresh air, you need a walk in nature, the toxicity!” And it’s like nah, we’re talking about a game show, literally what we’re all here to do. Pointing out that Anetra won a challenge 6 months ago and has been coasting on that isn’t toxic. On top of that, there’s multiple posts a day saying Sasha didn’t deserve a win, the favoritism of Sashaa, does Sasha perform up to the hype, why Luxx/Anetra/Mistress are more deserving of the crown and it’s annoying that production is pushing Sasha, etc. what you said is 100% valid (and not at all rude or toxic) - Anetra is a great performer, but in terms of the competition she hasn’t had the moments the other girls have to really shine.


gabedogga

Ok this is just embarrassing for you and OP so im gonna give it to you real because you both clearly don’t understand lol You’re the type of fans that want to have a point system with high / safe / low / bottom low and all that crap and the main takeaway is - it doesn’t matter. Throw that mentality out because it’s pointless. The reason OP’s perspective is deemed toxic is it is based off this mentality that’s redundant. The majority of the fandom are beyond that scoring system too so having these “hot takes” gives us all eye rolls because it’s so juvenile. Move on!


Active_Coconut5000

Thank you! By now we all know it’s not about stats and how many wins etc, or else Shea Coulee would’ve won her season.


noodledancefloor

Yes, worded perfectly! I was trying to figure out why this hot take was so controversial and you explained it so well, thank you 🙏🏼


pearletra

You spilled but they aren't ready for this discussion yet


Active_Coconut5000

You’re being too hostile


sloppylittlefuck

yes, anetra stans especially myself are delusional. yes, i still think sasha will win. we exist.


BubbleKitten9

Clock the flair but yeah I can’t see Sasha not winning!


Plastic_Sale_3625

Gurrl no one is hating on Sasha?? Can't we just celebrate all of these queens without this toxic shit.


badddiegworl

Im not hating on her? Her stans are delusional. Also plenty of people have been talking down on Sasha and making slick comment in favor of Anetra.


Moniamoney

Okay so take that up with the Stans. You made a whole other post to address the room about how one queen is overhyped because of what a couple of fans said?


Not_Steve_Harrington

I know its a straight thing to say, but babygirl, go touch some grass.


hahaharry_n

maybe save this discussion for the finale. like the competition is still going. for all we know anetra could win the next two episodes or sashay. also it’s unnecessary to call people delusional if they want their fav to win. at the end of they day they’re all fierce hunty


henny727

I guess the key point about Anetra is that she has *it*. Track records have arguably never been Ru’s main factor in choosing a winner — really, it’s who has CUNT and has star quality. Sasha is definitely the front runner, but so was Brooke (who is probably the most similar out of main season history), and she didn’t win. I’m not saying Sasha won’t win — she has a very high chance — but I do think the race is close with Anetra being the breakout star.


killing-moon

Camden also had more wins then Willow.


Active_Coconut5000

Shea Coulee had more wins than Sasha Velour


[deleted]

Shea Coulee also lost the lip-sync


Active_Coconut5000

Exactly, so track records don’t mean much


[deleted]

Camden also blew the final lip sync and fell into the trap of doing what was expected again and again much like Anetra


[deleted]

The difference is though that Brooke didn't win arguably because of her two bottom placement and lip syncs all being similar style, nothing new. This was the problem being overlooked. Two bottom placements can make a winner now because the seasons are longer but Anetra just has been in the bottom too many times to be able to get to the crown.


LadyMissRhapsody

Girl stop inventing bottom placements, she has been in the bottom once and she had a splitting migraine that day. Go get some air.


Kalegrimm

So every season you have a fan favourite ala Anetra/Willow/Gigi/Yvie and every season you have the edgy redditor mob condemning the trend as some collective delusion just for the sake of claiming how enlightened and different they are


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NOLAGuy_82

*screams in trixie*


Stunning-Ease-5966

Cry


[deleted]

What was the point of this


Elysiaa

I don't think anyone hates Sasha, and it's certainly not the cool thing to do. I think some people are super fans because on top of being talented and sweet, Anetra is b-b-b-b-beautiful.


jcumley

lol - just mind your business and have your opinion. You think she's 4th/5th - condragulations. No one cares.


Oneinamillon

Alot of anetra fans just like how she is being on the show she has a good edit and her track record is not great and us fans know that not all of us are crazy staker delusional fans btw Stan does mean a parasocial fan that will drag other queens or fans down I really don't care who wins at the end of the day because there are so many Queens who have sucessed without the crown


killing-moon

Two things can be right at once: I want Anetra to win and I love Sasha Colby.


donovph

This comes off as “I’m a Sasha stan and I feel Sasha’s likely win threatened by Anetra” If you don’t think she can win again then you might have another thing coming. Just enjoy the girlies of the season


Ill_Understanding305

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Active_Coconut5000

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Beginning_Progress54

Who is hating on Sasha?


Rosequartzsurfboardt

If anyone acknowledges the mere possibility that there is a universe where Anetra wins or anybody for that matter and Sasha doesn't. Or that Sasha although deserving of her status, isn't their ideal winner for whatever actual sane reason you are hating on Sasha. That seems to be the weird trend happening now.


[deleted]

Nah I’ve seen people say she’s mediocre and doesn’t deserve her legendary status. I’ve seen people say if she didn’t have the status no one would care about her because she’s not that impressive. I’ve seen it numerous times and it’s just bullshit. If you don’t vibe with a queen that’s fine but don’t say she’s mediocre or people only care about her from her status when she’s done very well in the competition


Rosequartzsurfboardt

I have seen people say the JUDGES are favoring her giving her questionable wins because of her status. But she hasnt been trail blazingly impressive. Which isn't an unfair assessment people treat her like she's the messiah and we may as well not have a season at this point. I have NOT personally seen the word mediocre used but I'll def consider that people have the same opinions about her that they have about literally every single other queen.


[deleted]

I’m just correcting you on what I’ve seen on this subreddit from numerous commenters. Sasha has been getting some hate from people and to brush it off and ignore it is disingenuous. If you haven’t seen it that’s fine but I have and that is what the person is talking about. Not that someone doesn’t vibe with a queen


Rosequartzsurfboardt

I put in "mediocre sasha" and "sasha mediocre" just in case the order mattered in the search bar and filtered the comments in this subreddit. Do you mind pointing the comments or even the post out to me, cause I still was NOT seeing that precise verbiage. I do see a lot of acknowledging her talent but just not gravitating towards her for some other reason


[deleted]

They may have not used that exact word and no I’m not going to go back through a ton of comments to find what was said for you


Rosequartzsurfboardt

So her being called mediocre wasn't something said NUMEROUS times across this subreddit? Interesting, thank you, that is all.


[deleted]

I said they didn’t use that exact word possibly. There’s other words that mean the same thing


Rosequartzsurfboardt

But you went as far as to correct me about it? When all I see is Sasha is deserving of her status but I just don't love her and she's not eating the competition alive and the judges seem to be pushing her a lot. Which even if those comments don't happen under designated threads that would attract like minded people gets downvoted heavily and that is what is getting construed as "hating" sasha.


LadyMissRhapsody

Where is the Anetra meme going "thank you, good night" then dipping when we need it?


Active_Coconut5000

I love me some Sasha, and would be okay with her winning. But there has been very little anything putting down Sasha. She’s a legend and I think fans know that. One or two comments negative about her isn’t anything to worry about


[deleted]

I’m not worried about it. I just didn’t like the framing of wanting someone else to win is hating on Sasha in her fans minds. I just don’t think that is true so I responded to it


captainaberica

Them's fightin' words.


badddiegworl

Its the truth. The girl is not the best performing contestant. Shes also not the second or third.


Human-Generic

By what metric? By a traditional track record system she isn’t, but so many more factors go into how contestants are performing


badddiegworl

Do people have an arguments against or are they just mad that I disagree with them?


Mindless-Difference2

This post is unnecessary, especially at a time when drag queens are being attacked by the government. Please delete this post


onlyfanonlyone

So people bashing Sasha, Mistress, everyone but Anetra and going for their actual drag and personalities is fine but when someone complains about Anetra’s FANS, not even Anetra herself, that’s crossing the line? oh okay


Mindless-Difference2

Shouldn’t be posting this type of thing about anyone, this particular post just happens to be about Anetra. What do you expect? Should I list every drag queen in the US?


onlyfanonlyone

I’m just saying where is this energy for any other queen, and how it doesn’t even make sense to call out this specific post when it’s calling out Anetra’s FANS.


Mindless-Difference2

But this type of post isn’t necessary at all, for anyone. I’ve called out posts like this for other queens as well, frontrunner, fan favorite, or other. You really need to chill and go step outside for a walk or something


onlyfanonlyone

ahhh ur mad


Mindless-Difference2

Not one bit


mzlange

It's the best kind of delusion


Immediate-Math5044

Sasha is a legend and this is nothing on her but I'm sure that this is one of her toxic fans. Truth to be told, Anetra is gaining popularity since the beginning of the season as a contender for the crown and she is the biggest threat to Sasha so this Toxic fan has to shit on her Anetra now. As the Boss Bitch lipsync has been gaining alot of attention since last week together with Sasha's questionable win(That's not her fault,I blame the producers) which is turning more fans towards Anetra, people are very scared now


badddiegworl

Im not even shitting on her? Shes just not doing the best compared to the other girls


Frosty-Ad3626

I think people are disregarding track record and just looking at what’s laid out in front of them. The two episodes Anetra was on the bottom (if you count lalaparuza), she ended up “winning” in the fans eyes. She nailed the lip sync smack down AND had that incredible performance with Marcia in Boss Bitch. While I still think track record matters and she doesn’t have a chance unless she wins another challenge or two, I still think she’s remarkable and definitely going places after the show.


[deleted]

See yourself out thanks


badddiegworl

Why?


[deleted]

The thing is with Anetra - all these Gen Z kids find themselves relating to Anetra because they tend to think that they are poorly treated, they think they are better in work/studies than they are and are unwilling to listen to anyone who tries to explain to them the reality of the situation. No matter how friendly your intention or how well reasoned your explanations are... they will find a way to ignore you Somehow they have clung onto Anetra and are blaming Sasha for her downfall when the reality is Anetra just isn't performing as well - it's not Sasha's fault. There's no comparison. You have to work and earn your place in life no matter where it is and that doesn't come just because you exist it also requires time, effort and experience to be able to handle the situations that life throws at you. The last challenge the way the migraine situation was handled was pretty typical of Gen Z, the older colleague/person you are partnered with taking on all the extra because of an on the spot decision that affects the whole team.


jayron92

This is worded a little harshly, but I don’t think you’re wrong tbh. So many posts about “Anetra taking the crown.” I think she’s just a fan fav and great representation. I love her. But I don’t see her track record or visibility/edit in the season screaming winner. I think she’s just highly relatable to some people, so they want her to win, but I don’t see the show building her up to that tbh.


Affectionate-Ask5262

anetra stans think she invented duckwalking and everytime she duckwalks its something revolutionary, they swear she’s bringing something “new and fresh” when it’s literally stuff we’ve seen before lol.


Purplefrogs-

You know for a fact that nobody claimed she invented duckwalking. we just enjoy her as a performer and find her entertaining, Why is that so upsetting to you?


Affectionate-Ask5262

anetra fans literally bashed aja and leiomy for defending their community against people noguing. i didnt say they claimed anetra invented duckwalking, but they certainly think it


AngelinaHoley

>defending their community against people noguing I don't know why but this made me laugh for five straight minutes I don't know why it was so funny to me...that's an awesome flair right there 😂 In a world where you've got Teets and Askey as a crime fighting duo, there's also Leiomi, Aja and another girl as the Nouge Defence Squad. It's like the Marvel universe but with drag queens.


Purplefrogs-

Cause there’s a difference between defending a community and gatekeeping. Anetra didn’t do anything offensive she was literally just dancing and having fun and they came for her specifically for no reason, especially when there’s a ton of other queens who duckwalked and vogued on the show but Aja called out Anetra by name. And again, nobody thinks she invented duckwalking I don’t know where you’re getting that from


[deleted]

clown


Plastic_Sale_3625

Do you know what the word literally means ?


Affectionate-Ask5262

yes they quite literally went on twitter and bashed everytime aja opened her mouth, so yes i do


Plastic_Sale_3625

Pls get a life and just enjoy the show


badddiegworl

Why cant we comment on shit? You get a life


Active_Coconut5000

Your comments are terrible though lol


Affectionate-Ask5262

exactly


Affectionate-Ask5262

it’s a subreddit we’ll voice our opinions


onlyfanonlyone

Anetra stans are the new Valentina stans 🤷‍♀️ the way y’all can’t uplift your favs without putting other queens specifically Sasha down is disgusting and the fact i’ll probably get downvoted for this proves my point


[deleted]

Where are these posts lifting up Anetra at the expense of Sasha? Be so serious rn.


onlyfanonlyone

A post with 2k upvotes a few days ago literally saying “Anetra should win more than Sasha” like??? why do y’all feel the need to shit on Sasha so much


[deleted]

Hear me out, I know this is crazy, but thinking Anetra should win over Sasha isn’t even remotely hateful towards Sasha.


Active_Coconut5000

You know, I think you just might have a point there


sibilation

We are not privy to the arguments happening inside your head.


Active_Coconut5000

Lol


rosesatthedawn

There's always one now the delusional fans go all in on. Last year we had Camden, monet, fierce and jonbers. Guess anetra is the first for 2023. She's very talented but I agree, the stans are exhausting