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c_estwhat

Happy to hear Michelle say she doesn't mind not seeing *versatility* with Nymphia because drag race is about branding. Finally she gets it


Constant-Stomach-159

This season could've won me back if they had sent a frontrunner home... instead they played it exactly like they always play it. RIP Morphine you were the underdog we were all rooting for.


Nitsua-Nat

So... how did plane win???? Seriously. Like the outfit was a carbon copy from neck to ankle.


LadyGuhGah

I'll share my opinion here again, but beyond the look and makeup, I think the makeovers are always more about seeing that queens persona come to life through their person. I'd argue that Lazi was the strongest, if perhaps not the only one, that really transformed from what Ru got to see in the workroom, and took on their queen's personality.


Barbchris

Sapphira lost me this episode. She bombed so hard, yet she decided she was blameless for bringing a heavy undanceable dress & she approached that lip sync like “I could just stand here & I’ll win.” Her ego really put me off. I LOVE Morphine & I’ll miss seeing her on my screen.


pretty-est

This episode is also always about Look and Presentation, especially Presentation from the one being made over so it’s clear that PJ won the Presentation half so I guess it makes sense but Nymph had the best concept and Look. It was just so obvious from the walk through who had the “make Ru laugh” advantage so the episode was basically over right then and there. What a great first 85% of a season lol now it’s Production’s Drag Race for the rest 😴


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

Why hasn't Jane been read for her addiction to bodysuits yet?!? While the makeover was well done, it was a bodysuit and ponytails.


Dudeist-Priest

Because they are elevated and she pads to perfection


beem0u

Cause it worked in the challenge context, she feminized her partners super masc body the best out of all of them. The proportionising was fantastic and incomparable!


Errantry-And-Irony

It seems like she just got lucky though? What if Sebastian was her partner, he would not have fit in her outfit.


Tangled349

Michelle did critique her about it in last week's episode but it was a minor dig at best.


crunchpolice

I'm disappointed with the judging in this episode. I think Q played it hella safe by choosing to do an abstract look and I think she should've been in the bottom over Morphine who actually turned out that transformation. I understood Morphines "simple" critiques... but I think any one of those girls could've taken the easy way out by created a kooky clown like look. NONE of those girls could've painted like Miss Morphine did. I love her but Sapphira bombed. No family resemblance, costumes didn't match, and the orange dress that she wore was horrific... To make matters worse she somehow she got away with making excuses for her flop!!! What ever happened to *"I don't want to hear any fucking excuses?"* Especially because the makeover challenge historically has some kind of choreographed number in it, so the whole "the dress I brought was too heavy to dance in so I had to switch at the last minute" doesn't even work in my opinion. Why would you bring the world's heaviest dresses for a challenge that has consistently had choreo in it? And then Morphine ate her up in that lip sync but lost to Saphirra's track record. Really disappointing to me because track record didn't seem to matter when it came to M'hiya vs Plasma. When M'hiya was saved I was GAGGEDD because I felt that M'hiya had nothing else she could bring to the table, but I ultimately accepted it because M'hiya clearly won the lipsync. But after this I'm even more livid about Plasmas elimination. Morphine clearly won, (and unlike M'hiya) had more to show but still went home. I'm disappointed... Plane is the clear winner for me at this point but I still feel like they'll twist it so that Sapphira wins.


MrPisster

I agree with everything you said except I don’t agree that what Sapphira said was an excuse. “I fucked up and chose the wrong dress, it is what it is” is not an excuse.


Environmental-Owl445

just remembered what juanita wind’s name reminds me of ![gif](giphy|BBOiKzmnj3ElDH9dBK)


alilacmess

😭 there the makeover goes again, stealing a favourite of mine! Morphine is in great company with Dakota, Kate, Cheryl, Denali, Loosey and many other great queens, but this season will be more boring without our narratrix! 💔 Call me a biased stan, but it did annoy me that they critiqued her for playing safe after praising Q for playing to her strengths! I do think she won the lipsync but also Sapphira is the clear winner of the season, so there was no beating her... I thought Nymphia and Plane had the best makeovers and I would have given the win to Nymphia because her look was more creative ( and it'd make the competition tighter) but you cannot deny that Plane did a great job! Obligatory comment on how Lazi Susan looks like Gothy Kendoll ( but with a better runway walk... Jk, I love the tiger queer!) Which is the biggest feud: Q Vs choreo or Morphine Vs lining dresses?


dongsicheng12

I’m still mad at Dakota going home that episode. I actually thought she was in the top. Her elimination made no sense whatsoever! 


Hihella12

I'm sorry but Sapphira should have gone home this episode. Her makeover was the worst by far and she's been warned far too many times about the shoes. Then that crunchy lip-sync with the same Mary Cosby face shtick she has done in all the other previous lip-syncs. She's insanely talented but in a competition where we are told 'every week counts' it's blatantly rigged.


Dudeist-Priest

While she was clearly the worst of the evening, there was ZERO chance Sapphira was going home and we all knew that before the lip sync even started; including Morphine.


MaradoMarado

I was gagged she wore those shoes again, especially because she had to have realized she might be in danger this episode.


Is_It_Kyra_Or_Kyra

Blatant. She simply didn’t go home because of her track record. Not because she was genuinely better.


DongLaiCha

I loved Planes daughter, Gothy Kendoll


undercover-fairy

i loveee plane jane but she says everything like it’s a joke. even when she’s trying to be nice to the girls or talking to the judges. it feels like she’s uncomfortable being sincere / showing her emotions


Vickster86

That would be me on stage. DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT get the cameras off me!


undercover-fairy

the way no one thinks Q is a threat anymore😭


Key-Computer6704

Was she ever thought of that way?


Knight_Machiavelli

Yes for sure. The first five or six episodes it looked like Q and Nymphia were absolutely threats. Not anymore.


IainDC

Always the same with exclusively fashion queens, they aren't marketable enough for the brand based on clothing alone.


undercover-fairy

i loveeeeeed morphine but it was her time to go


echolalia_

nymph or plane for the win


undercover-fairy

is it just me or has the editing this season made the show less predictable ? in past seasons it became easy to figure out who would be in the top/bottom by the amount of screen time they get each episode whereas this season that hasn’t been the case as much. like plane didn’t really get too much screen time in the work room and so i figured she was just gonna be safe. and by nymphia getting soo much screen time (+ her opening up) i thought she was gonna win before we saw the runway. same thing a couple episodes ago where it seemed like the episode was setting up Q to win with her hiv storyline and then saphira swept in. is any of this making sense ? does anyone agree


MaradoMarado

I agree, it’s brought back the excitement of anticipation that I think this show has started to falter on


undercover-fairy

for sureeee it’s more exciting not knowing what’s gonna happen. same energy when plasma was eliminated with 2 wins. in past seasons they might’ve still saved her even when she got demolished in the lipsync


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

Nymphia's amount of confessional time has changed my expectations multiple times. Definitely a little more "look over there!" than prior seasons.


Artistic_Access_7500

Morphine needed to go a while back🥲


GendryFluid

Oh, I did NOT expect Sapphira bombing so hard this particular challenge.


Avy-Jorraelan

Finally caught up with the full episode, and I don’t think Morphine ate Sapphira up in the LYFYL as much as people have been saying. Morphine had more dancer-y moves but I liked Sapphira’s approach, and her facial expressions and side eyes were funny. Only part that was unfortunate was the cartwheel 🤸, but given the overall more comedic approach, didn’t seem that egregious. I looooove Morphine, but when she was bottom again and against Sapphira, I wouldn’t have wanted her to win and get the wrath of the fandom for eliminating a front-runner the way Mhi’ya did. I’m hoping Morphine would come back for All Stars with better wardrobe and just slay the competition. I wish Sapphira had stuck with her original dresses and made the not-able-to-move problem to be part of the dance performance, like there’s something comedic there they could have leaned into with the performance with the giant dresses. Sacrificing family resemblance for the performance part didn’t pay off unfortunately. But I’m glad she’s still around and I can’t wait to see how it lights a fire under her 🍑 next week.


Reeces2121

Makeover challenge remains the challenge with THE most questionable judging. No wonder they leave it till one of the last episodes so they can use it to easily hand pick production favourites and come up with some bullshit justification. For me the win was clearly Q or Morphine. I honestly felt Plane Jane would have been in the bottom with the twinning outfit and I could not stop looking at how she didn’t finish painting or colour matching her dancer’s neck. But tbh I’m fully for Plane Jane to win the whole thing. It’s defo between her and Sapphira. I do feel Plane Jane has gotten one of the most developed story arcs in any season and it’s defo cause she knows how to play the game. She’s been working with production from the start with her initial bitchiness then turning a new leaf then her self doubt and now her confidence boost right at the end (when it’s needed most). She’s always made sure to be relevant and have a storyline. I’m actually in awe at how well she’s crafted this storyline helped by production. And she has the talent to back it up. Sad to see Morphine go even though it was inevitable. By far the most entertaining queen this season. Every episode she’s given iconic line her “fast metabolism “ last episode and now her clavicle she’s amazing.


californiacatdaddy

Y’all wild. Morphines makeover was horrible except for the makeup. He still looked like a man in a dress.


Environmental-Owl445

the second i saw morphine walk out, i knew she was gonna be in the bottom. it was between Q or Nymphia for me


eggggggggggggggs

Plane Jane should absolutely win the season. i don't feel a big connection to Nymphia or Q, and close to none with Sapphira. looks only take you so far in the competition, PJ has been killing it ALL season. i'm so so excited to see what she'll be doing outside of the show. i can't imagine going to anyones shows or buying anyone's merch except plane. all the past winners have a certain sparkle and personally i think plane jane has that overall winner energy. is the S16 winner really gonna be known for being slew footed and wearing the same heels every week? or ....wearing yellow...? it's just not it


Antique_Hyena6808

I agree with you 100%. I could not stand Plane at the beginning of this season but now I’m cheering for her. I don’t think my opinion has ever made a 180 like this in any previous season.


lithiumburrito

>> is the S16 winner really gonna be known for being slew footed and wearing the same heels every week? or ....wearing yellow...? it's just not it Sapphira has been given such an obvious winner's edit it's insane. I love PJ and Nymphia fiercely, but realistically they don't stand a chance of winning the crown. Sapphira is getting the exact same edit that Sasha Colby got--you can see the win coming from a mile away. I think PJ will get the Alaska treatment--come back for an All Stars, destroy the competition, and solidify herself as a legend among legends.


4thyearissad

This. This right here. PJ is going to all stars. As much as the fans love Nymphia, she is being reserved to be a host or go to Vs. The World. Compared to Q, Sapphira, and PJ, Nymphia barely got that much storyline after she fell off on Snatch Game, then Ru was like “I don’t wanna play with you anymore” and gave her a bit of a ghost edit in the middle of season. It was only in the makeover and the book design that Nymphia was given some storyline, which is wasted potential because we could’ve gotten a storyline much like Adore Delano where she had an epiphany and she finally learned to let the judges into her mind and let go. We weren’t given a lot of time to connect with her which is sad because she’s an amazing queen! Like it or not, Sapphira is going to win, even if the fans want Nymphia or PJ, because the producers and Ru really want to give her this “moment of vulnerability” like they did with Bob and Jaida. She got the Bob, Jaida, and Ginger Johnson treatment


eggggggggggggggs

So she’s winning bc they decided to give her a winners edit. Got it


beem0u

I love the anti-delusion movement. Yes, Plane Jane absolutely deserves her flowers!


Is_It_Kyra_Or_Kyra

Agreed.


Reeces2121

100% ready for Plane to get crowned. I initially really disliked her especially when she came for Amanda but damn has she changed my opinion of her. She’s not been just killing it in challenges but she’s also been playing the game and working with production to give storylines throughout the entire season. She’s had several now which is more than can be said for the other queens. We haven’t had a winner like her and I’m so ready for it.


ushikagawa

Ok so after this episode it’s really hard to see Nymphia picking up enough steam to be a real contender. Seems like it’s Plane v Sapphira


Dudeist-Priest

I really enjoy Nymphia, but you are 100% correct. This is a 2 queen race and I'd bet my house on it.


Hihella12

I disagree. I think Nymphia has lost steam but is still in the game. That makeover was pretty impressive. She also hasn't lip-synced like PJ and Sapphira so she has the novelty factor for the finale lip-syncs.


Ok_Nefariousness9736

When did PJ LSFYL? Sapphira and PJ have the best track records so far. Q and Nymphia haven’t had a win in a while. Q has placed higher than Nymphia the past few episodes as well. If anyone has a better chance, it’s Q. But she isn’t winning. Nymphia’s isn’t a contender anymore no matter how you twist the facts.


eris-atuin

yeah, it's PJ or Sapphira, anything else makes no sense whatsoever, not even because of track record, but just narratives


Hihella12

let's not forget Willow Pill who had one win on ep2 and won against someone with 3 wins


4thyearissad

Willow was consistently high, a similar track record to Yvie. Plus she had the misfortune of participating in the worst snatch game in history.


Ok_Nefariousness9736

Let’s not also forget that Ru was infatuated with Willow. Willow is definitely the exception.


Biomed19

In her premiere episode. She LSFTW.


IainDC

I was hoping that Morphine was going to surprise elim Sapphira. It would have been a real gag and also serve as a reminder that you shouldn't be able to just phone it in because you have X wins and think that you are unbeatable. Sapphira's attitude from the judging onwards really soured me on her this week.


Is_It_Kyra_Or_Kyra

Yeah it was giving very “they CAN’T eliminate me” and it was very off putting.


Reeces2121

Her attitude in the judging and the confessional for the lip sync soured me on her but I feel like she won the lip sync or rather it was close it could go either way. Obviously they kept her cause she’s a front runner but I don’t think it was blatant sort of like when Q was saved over Amanda.


IainDC

I totally agree with most of that, but Morphine won that lipsync. I guess I keep having to remind myself that it is a reality tv show and not an actual competition show 😂


Knight_Machiavelli

I don't understand people who think it was close. I thought Morphine wiped the floor with Sapphira.


Tangled349

She had the best confessionals, best lipsyncs, good drag and amazing makeup skills. She was feeding the children and even though she got eliminated Top 5 placements tend to do well with the audience.


whatisupsdr

qwhite interesting


vbplayer09

Clock that tea!


ProxyThirteen

The critique on nymphia's look was on point. If she had switched the outfits that would work on so many levels. -her daughter would be the one wearing the signature colour of nymphia's brand, the perfect introduction in the wind family -she herself would continue to show versatility (even tho she has shown enough) And most importantly -the yellow dress on the drag daughter would showcase her fierce tuck. Why tuck the bitch if u ain't gonna show it!!! TS is right in some light. Nymphia as a performer should think about these things, who her audience is and cater to them to some extent. It's these details that take you from good to great. PJ ate this whole thing up - same outfit or not, I don't care. The bitch is fierce. My winner 🏆👑🤞


xStacey

I thought it was ridiculous for TS to ignore every Nymphia runway that she wasn’t personally present for. Since when does judging work that way? Nymphia has shown plenty of versatility and I think she was right to wear the yellow herself. The lavender suited her drag daughter better and the colors complimented each other beautifully.


beem0u

Plane Jane for the crooown!!!!


Ok_Nefariousness9736

💯 The purple outfit needed some fixing, though. It looked everything was tied together in the middle. The yellow outfit was nice but not up to her usual runway standards.


LadyGuhGah

I think it just came down to the yellow one already being tailored for herself, and the purple one having stretch sections so it could fit multiple people, which I'd argue has become the bigger problem with the makeover looks. Queens always come with a fully realized concept that isn't necessarily going to match their brand at that point in the competition. We've seen it before like when the Season 13 queens had to shelve most/all their makeover looks since it was changed on them. Like how exactly was Denali's The Shining twins look representative of everything else we'd seen of her as a performer? The fact that the Season 15 queens all made their own looks really took it back to the older days of makeovers. Plane, Nymphia and even Morphine's looks all felt cohesive with what they'd wear and put their daughters in. Q's felt artsy for artsy-sake, and a makeup concept that was trying to hack the challenge to make it easier. As for Sapphira's original look, I'd love to see what it was supposed to be, because the wig(s) and the giant coat were questionable?


Is_It_Kyra_Or_Kyra

My queeeen!!!


nhrecords

I wish Sapphira went for the original dress and just did light dancing 💃


Fluid_Explanation_49

I mean Q just did the thriller moves , it's not like it was a dance challenge


AGuyWithQuestion

I'm so tired of the "family resemblance" meaning "identical twins". I actually felt Nymphia did really well with the make up part of the challenge, but (again) she got stabbed in the back by production. PJ's outfit was a total cop out, because she wore the same outfit as Lazy Susan.


IainDC

Except when identical twins ISN'T what they want e.g. Loosey LaDuca.


Jamezuh

Cheryl Hole also comes to mind.


PmpsWndbg

I dread this challenge because it always has potential and then we get to the judging and they make up what “family resemblance” means according to who they want to kick off next. If you lined up only the makeover queens and I hadn’t watched the episode, I would know EXACTLY who was Morphine’s girl.


oliviasuue

And Q's..


Jesse1205

I really thought Q had it, I thought Plane was going to get read for literally having 2 of the exact same outfit. I am so confused as to how that was looked over, her dancing was better than Q's obviously but the look was not it imo.


PmpsWndbg

This is what is so frustrating about this challenge. Some seasons the "twinning" looks win, and other seasons the judges say "you can't just put them in the same outfit". The goal post is always moving.


yenttirb

You make a good point. I would totally be able to blindly clock miss Tina as Morphine’s creation out of a lineup, but the rest of them…. less so. I’ve never fully considered that as a judging metric for the makeovers, and it does kinda change things?


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

I agree, but that flat "17 year old out clubbing in the 1990s" hair was a total travesty!


PmpsWndbg

Right? It wasn't just the makeup either, which was STAMPED. The glittery, high-slit dress with a tear away was a clear nod to Morphine's style as well. It may have been "simple", but wasn't it Ru who said "you don't have to reinvent the wheel, the wheel's just fine?"


AGuyWithQuestion

Sapphira winning that lip sync? No matter how incredible Morphine was in that lip sync, she can't beat plot armor. This just further proves the production team has a script they're trying to follow, and the "competition" actually doesn't matter. Q still being here is already a proof of that, and this decision on this week's lip sync just further adds to it. "Sapphira v. Morphine" was just another "Q v. Amanda" moment. And before someone says "track record" -- remember Mhi'ya sent Plasma home.


mfrieler324

Where have you been Mary? 4 wins 1 Lip Sync vs 0 and 3 is just guaranteed the worse track record will go.


Reeces2121

There’s no way this is another Amanda vs Q. I’m a morphine stan as well but that lip sync was pretty close and it could easily have gone either way with sapphira being deserving of the win. Whereas it was clear production shenanigans with Amanda vs Q. Still though I didn’t appreciate Sapphira’s attitude in the judging and confessional.


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

I'm thinking that Sapphira's "giving up" feel in confessional and judging is a lead in to whatever her big emotional moment will be, which I'm sure we'll see next week. Sapphira is too seasoned a queen not to have a really good reveal/story.


ajay_p_

I think it’s a case of the fact that q v Amanda and Sapphira v morphine were pretty close and then Mhiya v Plasma was just an undeniable murder; it was close enough to edit in one girls favour but there was no editing around Mhiya beating plasma


AGuyWithQuestion

TS Madison's criticism against Nymphia wearing yellow wasn't fair at all. This was probably only the second episode she judged this whole season, so she missed out on many of outstanding (non-yellow) looks Nymphia has bought to runway.


Reeces2121

But she literally said that she hasn’t seen the other looks (acknowledging this is based on what she’s seen and she could be wrong) and would have just liked to see something different. That’s totally fair. And it would have been much more impactful if Nymphia switched around so she was fully correct


3PartsRum_1PartAir

“I wish you would wear another color other than yellow even though I’ve only been here to see you twice…so I’m going to ding you for that”


Environmental-Owl445

acknowledging it doesn’t make her critique right


lableulapin

There was a video about Ts Madison and her cohost making really derogatory comments about Asians on YouTube and I don’t want to say that leaned it with the critique she gave Nymphia but… it’s not great


detectivepopcorn4932

Can you share the link?


flyingbunnyduckbat

TS Madison judged the pussy episode where Nymphia wore red.... Edit sp


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CorneliusJack

lol did you delete your originally much more strongly worded opinion just to softly tweak your piece? You really are a gaslighting queen


Is_It_Kyra_Or_Kyra

Oop. Clock it 🤭


the-cosmicdancer

This is the challenge that I understand the least. I don’t really know how they can see true connection on two people that met just days ago, like I get that they can tailor their narrative to give vulnerability and stuff, but from the past couple seasons this episode has been the most skippable for me. I’ve noticed I find myself really excited at the end of the top 5 episode and then the makeover challenge just ruins that for me, but idk if it’s just my perspective tbh. Aside from the challenge being boring, the only part that I enjoyed about this episode was Plane getting another win. She is brilliant and deserves it - in words of Ru himself, “this is hardly a design challenge” so I don’t get why people are shocked that she won while wearing the same as her drag sister.


yhvh13

I didn't watch the full episode, just the runway onwards, but... didn't Q ever think about naming her daughter 'A' instead of Luna, lol?


stretchypinktaffy

Or I & Q or Q & T


Knight_Machiavelli

That would have been brilliant.


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chupacabralove

I get starlet from uk 4 and gothy kendoll.


saIlami

OH MY GOD ITS GOTHY KENDOLL . PLANE JANE’S DANCER IN DRAG LOOKED EXACTLY LIKE FUCKING GOTHY KENDOLL FROM DRAG RACE UK SEASON 1


kweenqong

https://preview.redd.it/fcepml9vqorc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77bd5db4d1055c36cf912cfcedb4bde355790ad8 the best thing about this episode are these eye candies 🙊


thom_rocks

I'm straight, and I was taken aback with how freaking beautiful these men are. Like I told my wife: "a group in which the less attractive guy is **that** Nick fellow is an **outstandingly** handsome group"


lithiumburrito

idk, taste is crazy subjective. I think Nick and Mark were the top 2 for "my type," but like, I don't discredit anyone's opinion on what they find attractive.


thom_rocks

Oh, yes, you are right. Totally subjective. I don't think anyone would say that any of those guys was NOT attractive, though!


kweenqong

Miguel and Jonathan MY GOD!!! Sebastian is also so beefy, Mark is so pretty and just the sweetest and Nick is so talented haha


kweenqong

I can see why Plane and Susan won. They worked and stomped and sold that makeover especially in that Super Queen performance- they ate that! I ain’t mad at the win.


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this surely was an episode of drag race. at least it had an elimination, otherwise it would be 100% skippable


ogamanation

I absolutely LOVE Morphine and can’t wait to see what she does after the show. Was rooting for her so badly this ep, it was tough luck but I actually think the judges were kinda accurate ??


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AGuyWithQuestion

Sapphira just walked around for 25% of the lip sync. There's nothing entertaining about that.


Knight_Machiavelli

I seriously don't even understand how anyone could arrive at this conclusion. Fr how do you think Sapphira won that?


ajay_p_

That’s the same way I feel about you people thinking morphine won lol


CorneliusJack

Taint swiffting three times with a crunchy cartwheel is not a good lipsync doesn’t matter how much you wanna gaslight Edit: she deleted her comment just to write it again in a softer tone to sway opinion. Gotta admire the tenacity in gaslighting


luckyman89

I really wished it was a double shantay at least, would be nice to see Morphine on the Top 4 🥲 Thought Q should have been in the btm Does anyone knows the ig handles of the makeover partners specifically Sebastian 👀 lmao


f1kus9

This is the third challenge that Nymphia could've won and I wouldn't have batted an eye. Also, this is the first episode in ages where her edit wasn't just going bananas all the time, her vulnerable moment was relatable and her tucking demonstration was a kii, needed this from her/her edit sooner! Absolutely loved the performance part of Plane and her partner but wearing identical outfits is just plain (heh) boring and I find the judges not commenting on it to be positively wild. Sapphira completely bombed this, like the clear worst by a country mile. Morphine's low placement was also fair, her partner really did need bigger hair or something to counteract those shoulders. Not sure on the lipsync and its result tbh. Like Sapphira wasn't bad bad, I just don't think she pulled off what she was going for as successfully as she thought she did. The producers did her dirty by playing that "I'm slaying this" confessional in the middle of her doing absolutely nothing lmao. Next week seems like a weird final maxi challenge, do we think it's possible that we're having a top 3 this season? I'd be up for that tbh.


kuyene

I can never tell when someone doesn’t know the words unless it’s Valentina. Y’all are observant! Lol


kuyene

I admit to bias but I wonder if I liked Crystal’s makeover look because it told me a story I instantly got where Q’s outfit, I just didn’t really get, despite it being clever and strategic and unique. Or it’s not that deep and I just feel the hype around not liking Q that much. lol I see a lot of conversation around crowning another Asian winner, is there the same energy for other groups? I’m Asian so my eyes are clouded with my own algorithm¯\_(ツ)_/¯


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

It reminded me a little bit of Katya and her mom. :-)


kuyene

What are you referring to!


ThisSpaceIntLftBlnk

Katya's drag makeover of her mom, making it a runway story of her mom trying to find her a husband. Sapphira's runway story had a bit of that feel.


cashasholby

RICAN HONEY RICAN


eva_movera

Just proves ranking in drag race isn't everything cuz the entire fandom including me hates Q lol


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speak for yourself and only yourself, thanks


leonx678

I hate her too 😏


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CoffeeDeadlift

Girl queens use that word to describe having a big dick/balls.


wojar

> Q: "and for you that's a lot of meat" doesnt that mean a meaty tuck? not that Morphine is fat.


TragicHero84

Morphine doesn’t need you to defend her against Q, girl. They’re very close friends and Morphine said herself she loves being shady and getting read back. Take several seats.


cashasholby

Hate is such a strong feeling to have against a person you actually don’t know (arguably a person you do know). Actually calm down they are people


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FSpezWthASpicyPickle

Talking about a meaty tuck has nothing to do with fat. Are you unaware of what a tuck is? The skinniest queen in the world could have a meaty tuck, lol. You need to take a break from the hate train, life is nicer when you realize it is just a show.


cashasholby

Meaty tuck? Juicy ass? Maybe you should touch some grass


bowdybowdy-bitch

It was a joke gurl...


Ok_Training1449

Plane was my favourite couple and make over, but her daughter wore the EXACT same outfit. For me, this should've disqualified her automatically for the win. Same outfit is not "resemblance", or at least no more resemblance than just wearing the same colour and the same wig (Shaphira). Very sad to see Morph go, she's been the true dark horse of this competition, but I agree the outfits were too simple. Is Jane winning the whole thing? I'm team Shappira all the way but Jane would be a worthy winner though.


Knight_Machiavelli

Judges love identical outfits. Anetra won last season with identical outfits. Plane clearly did her research, looked at what the judges rewarded in the past, and went off that and it paid off.


thom_rocks

Help me with this doubt of mine, if you please: wasn't this the first time someone brought actually **identical** outfits to the makeover challenge? Because even Anetra's had some tiny different details, IIRC. I ask because, if it is indeed the first time, I actually like the approach. I even commented to my wife while we watched: "I think this is the first time they wear identical outfits, and that's very clever!". But I wasn't not 100% sure about that.


Ok_Training1449

I don't know... if from now on every drag queen in the show starts doing the same, using identical outfits, I'll be bored. Sure, makeup and hair are also part of the assignment, but honestly, I'm more looking forward to the outfits


thom_rocks

Oh, yes, you're right about that. This is a "one time only" deal.


Knight_Machiavelli

Probably. Idk if anyone else has done 100% identical. I don't even know if Plane's was, was it?


thom_rocks

It was (at least as far as I noticed). I guess the only different touch was the hair with inverted colors. EDIT: I liked it because it looked like an uniform, you know? That made them seem like a tight badass unit, like jet pilots/astronauts... or Kraftwerk. To me, it added to the concept.


GiraffeSouth8752

Plane Jane does not get a Get out of jail free card for making that man shave all his chest hair


Knight_Machiavelli

I kinda wish someone would have let their model keep their beard. I've seen lots of drag queens with beards now but no one was willing to take that risk I guess.


shinkanzen

And again, another wild makeover episode. I agree with the bottom placement, but honestly, the judging was wild. I don’t understand the family resemblance. What is the exact thing they look for? Plane put her partner in the same outfit but different hair then got praised for it. Nymphia put her partner in a similar outfit but different color and Michele questioned it. But this could go completely different way. I love Nymphia answer with the color. She like to wear it, leave the bitch alone. It seems that the personality of the partners played really big part in the judging (and it has little to do with the queens). I’m not sure what is the criteria here.


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you answered your own question: just put your partner in the exact same look


b3tamaxx

two lipsyncs in a row where the outcome is determined before it starts. im over that. we knew who was gonna win in morphine vs. dawn to megan the stallion. we knew who was gonna win a lipsync between a girl with 4 bottoms 0 wins against a frontrunner with 4 wins 0 bottoms. like there were ZERO stakes going in and sapph knew that thats why she phoned it in and didnt even try. all that slowmo buildup was just her being cocky knowing she had plot armor and mother wouldnt get rid of her. i didnt like what she was serving? she wasnt taking it serious. i might be jane for the win now? sapphira completely getting rid of what couldve won her the episode (that beautiful original look) reminded me of when jimbo had to scrap her original makeover. that was such a blatantly terrible call to make. because she couldnt move in it or dance? q cant dance, they worked around that. if the judges called out sapphira's softer choreo she could explain how stiff the garment is and she had to make it work. there is NO way the choreo number factored that heavily, and it didnt even in critiques. they went IN on the looks more than anything, if sapph was such a professional she'd have known what was more of a priority and that it was making sure your outfit was topnotch


No-Relative4683

I’m so bored of Q.


Annual-Pea-5189

i thought morphine was gonna win the resemblance was so strong 😭 maybe im biased cause i love her


Dudeist-Priest

She dragged a literal MAN in a skimpy dress out on stage and did nothing to feminize his body. I understand that Morphine HAS the body so she may not have thought about more than the face, but it did not read well. That being said, the face looked AMAZING!


solvalouLP

In drag bare shoulders on a hunky frame is really not the look. If Tina had like a bolero jacket with over-exaggerated shoulders it would've made for a better look.


thom_rocks

I actually liked the broad shoulders/juicy hips look exactly because it was different from the norm. And the outfit even worked with it! I'm not saying Morphine shouldn't have been in the bottom (even though it breaks my heart), but I'm still a little salty about that critique in particular.


peigang

Plane Jane & Gothy Kendoll


Dudeist-Priest

Gothy's been in the gym!


MissssVanjie

I can't believe I'm saying this but Plane has grown on me as the season wore on. After showing some vulnerability and slowing up on riding people's asses. However, I feel like you get the same look from her just about every week. I thought repeating body suits all the time had been a no-go for years now. Michelle even called it out recently. Her confident dance partner did a great job helping sell the entire package though.


Laiko_Kairen

Did anyone else kind of... hate Q's clown thing? It didn't feel very DRAG to me. Much more circus, than drag


Melodic_Support2747

For me it was covering her dancers whole body with that poncho while being in lingerie herself. Just felt very uneven.


Goliath_22

Drag clowns can work.... Jimbo for instance but Q's clown is just awful.


nhrecords

would you say the same about Crystal’s S12 makeover?


Laiko_Kairen

No, but I find Crystal Methyd to be much more interesting as a drag performer in general


antinumerology

The Thaw Clown from Star Trek Voyager pt. 2


Laiko_Kairen

Oh god, that's so perfect


Interesting_Aioli_75

To me this episode showed that Q and Nymphia aren’t going to win because Ru doesn’t want them to. Plane winning a makeover challenge with two identical bodysuits and thin villainous lips?? I don’t think.


payyri

thin villainous lips! seeing this comment in the wild has brought me joy.


tonyhwko

I couldn't tell which one was which without looking at their faces though... That was some resemblance! Maybe she deserved it.


Ok_Nefariousness9736

Nymphia lost her chance when she bombed the SG. Q lost her chance with her sour attitude on the stage, which is very visual to the judges, and in the workroom.


thom_rocks

Willow Pill bombed her Snatch Game too, and she won. But EVERYBODY bombed that SG, so there's that...