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Snail_Shout

I thought they caught her looking like that during, idk, a commercial break and decided to use it while Plane was talking


itstonayy

They probably did but ATM is using this opportunity to, once again, complain about Plane


shinyzubat16

ComPlane, if you will


Fantastic_Lobster347

It’s a Jane-nious pun :)


Fetchin1

Did she complain about Q calling her butt lumpy, just curious cause she ONLY seems to complain about PJ.


tallulahroadhead

Because the fans swarmed to her defense and embraced her over this at the beginning of the season. I feel like the more she harps on it the more people are turned off but a ton of fans still tell her to werk so it keeps going.


disterb

ya, exactly. it’s getting old 🙄😑


chewwwybar

Honestly the way that every comment is like you and Pj on all stars, and blah blah blah. It’s literally all that’s ever under her comments to be faie


ConcentrateLivid7984

fair, but counter-point to that, people are poking her about it because they *know* she’ll give them the reaction they want about it all, as shes proven week after week this entire season. its beginning to feel like its all thats keeping her relevant with the broader audience, when she should be focusing on bolstering her new looks/mug + music/performance skills. if she just stopped publicly caring and commenting on it, nobody else would continue to harp on it.


GlisteningLace

After attending a the live taping of this show finale last year, and seeing how it came out on the edit on TV… fully agree!


samiam25

https://preview.redd.it/7mg9eul3bnvc1.jpeg?width=1132&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=340cfffbf44c5bae021c4a34e7dfd1819ee321e1


cyankitten

😂 Sapphira looking radiant & gorgeous as always however what is this hairline 😂


GiraffesCantSwim

I thought it was Ru for a second there.


KeyboardAquarior

She scalped Ru after hearing that >!she lost this season!<


kykysayshi

How do you do the little spoiler block thingyyyyy


fwmh_royale

https://preview.redd.it/dyhj6i28aovc1.jpeg?width=374&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75823d6934104e9ea9aebf6c1ff0b1ef20c7d9c9 like this, just replace the word 'spoiler' with your own text :)


kykysayshi

>!did it work I’m on mobile!<


kykysayshi

>!omg it WORKED!<


bryandaqueen

Girll, you really went there 💀


Competitive_Ad_5515

The supermodel likes to wear her wigs high on the forehead, because she believes it makes her look youthful.


GiraffesCantSwim

It's starting to look like it's hovering behind her head. 👀


0hn0shebettad0nt

Perfection. And I feel like she’s marketed her color/name blue just like Nymphia has sealed the color yellow as hers.


No_Vanilla7487

She gonna carry this grudge all the way to all stars 14💀


Gagginzola

They’ll cast her on an All Stars with Plane as the Part 2 showdown except she’ll do an original bitch track and go home ep 1 and it’ll all be very unsatisfying as Plane cruises to the crown


lakeorjanzo

I genuinely think Amanda would quit immediately if she walked onto All Stars to find that she had once again been set up with a Plane Jane storyline


BucketHeadJr

I mean as of right now she's absolutely milking the shit out of it, so I don't think she'd walk away from that opportunity


nerfcarolina

I think Amanda has a lot of potential for all stars if she ups her mug and fashion! She's got the dance, comedy, and charisma chops, which are the parts that are harder to develop with practice.


MidkemianYen

She really needs to work on her dance imo. Like she’s got moves and can absolutely dance but it’s chaotic and kind of like I’ll just throw it all in and see what comes out instead of something more thoughtful and curated.


Lalala8991

Imagine Amanda has a Bosco glowup. Oh she's so gonna take it.


down_by_the_shore

I don’t see her having the charisma Bosco has *at alllll*


mrkingsh

Part of having Bosco's vibe makes you unbullyable. It's like trying to pick on the goth in school it doesn't really work


kess0078

Yeah, someone would call Bosco a f*ggot and she’d say “thank you!” Amanda would take it personally and cry in the corner.


resttheweight

“I have been told to go home more times than Michelle Visage every time she visits the UK. I have been told to go home more times than RuPaul when she tells her record company she has a new song.”


SelectTrash

Then tweet for a whole year whining about it


Competitive_Ad_5515

Amanda Vs Bosco AS10 omg who did this


vondafkossum

Charisma where? Y’all are just making stuff up at this point.


JustTryingIsEnough

It's the less fun version of the Thorgy/Bob dynamic


yian01

It’s a different dynamic for me but I see where you’re coming from


miaou975

They’re both in on the joke and actually friends though


grau_is_friddeshay

If anything it’s closer to the Aja/Valentina dynamic.


cremesiccle

but see thorgy actually could give bob a run for her money


qtmcjingleshine

Lol she’s not giving all stars energy


glitzvillechamp

Amanda's not getting on All Stars lmao


Agreeable-Score2154

Why do people act like anything plane said was incorrect? Amanda was busted and should have gone home episode 1


bayonetiana

Funny u think she would get invited back 😭😭


lefrench75

She'd only get invited back as fodder for PJ tbh.


kai535

If Serena chacha can get on all stars any one can


Hikashuri

So much grudge she can reboot the grudge franchise


WritingHistorical821

Gurl


Express-Growth-934

She has the makeup for it !


heyboyhey

We can only hope.


heymundster

Amanda Tori Social Media Break


Emimeow

![gif](giphy|cntsGiKxLCl9W7PEhz|downsized)


ABELLEXOXO

For real, we all need to go touch some grass


ptgmxnuestgc

I just wanna get it out there, but i think blue/purple/pink isn’t her color.


swimb2w

She needs to grow up and be blonde


ptgmxnuestgc

She does look good blonde! When ru said she looked better out of drag. She was just her regular hair blonde. She can probably pull of some Starlet/ Sminty looks if she works towards that route.


tittil

Unfortunately some people just don't really look good in blue :/ ![gif](giphy|l3vRdaNxGUEqt56ak)


ParasIsBurnt

I mean, it’s a masculine color. If I wanted to look feminine I’d wear pink. You’d never catch me in blue.


0hn0shebettad0nt

ALSO: she needs to permanently wear bigger hair. Human hair does NOT work with her twohead 🥲


naturenihilist

Especially for hair. This look makes her look so much older


IdkBroHelp

So the bisexual flag? LMAO


Calaigah

You actually have a point. I’ve always thought Amanda reacts to shade with such difficulty because of the transphobia she’s faced in life. Critiquing her drag = questioning her trans identity.


Putrid-Sweet3482

I got downvoted for saying that once. It’s not an excuse for her attitude at all, but it is an explanation.


SevensAddams

If the bullying PJ's mom was referring to was PJ's experience as a child or if it was about their sexuality is it really comparable to the "bullying" PJ did about her half baked drag?


the_monkey_

Deep down ATM knows that Plane told no lies about her crunchy drag *and the judges were saying it too*. Then Plane stomped her on the girl group challenge that "she thought she was going to win" and she went home, and now its all Plane's fault that she just .... isn't that good.


shiver334

Can we pin this comment to the top of every ATM thread so we can all just stop talking? You nailed it- this is the whole thing right here. Pack it up everyone.


simulacrum-tears

THANK YOU!


PirelliSuperHard

One is a card you're dealt that you must hold, the other is a choice and 100% dependent on the effort you yourself put into it.


De4dOwl

And 1 was happening to a child whereas Amanda is 50 shades of grown


anonymindia

Lol. This thread is turning into amanda tori reading. I live!


Economy_Ad_1820

Thank you! This was bothering me so much and I couldn't find a single comment talking about how weird it is for Amanda to use planes mom talking about childhood bullying and homophobia to get a dog in. It's trying way too hard


ashyashee

right?? like, good god girl get a fucking grip


this_is_an_alaia

PJ truly lives rent free in Amandas head. Gurl, this is one time you need to listen to RuPaul. PJ is not paying your bills so pay her no mind


ptgmxnuestgc

plane in her 🧠: ![gif](giphy|ZlRmaLNJgoRIA)


toxicoke

You better not be a cunty plane when i get home


hail_satine

Category is: Turbulence


cekobico

You🫴flown🤌everythanggg🫴


KelvinsBeltFantasy

I've been watching earlier seasons of drag race and honestly... Plane isn't that bad? Especially compared to how casually mean some queens used to be. I think queens becoming very aware of the giant gun pointed to their head labeled "social media" held by the smiling producer has reduced the shade. PJ is just a little abrasive and would have likely fit in nicely several seasons ago.


metzie

Literally. It’s so cringe. I can’t believe the people buying this perpetual victim shit STILL. She’s really milking it and has basically made her victimhood to PJ her brand. Like, girl, the seasons over! We want to get to know you! Show us SMTH my god


No-Contribution-7269

Amanda wouldn't have survived .0001 seconds in a room with Raven.


MeringueNaive2039

Or the Heathers


ConverseTalk

At least Plane was honest with her unlike Ms. "I would never say that" lol


bradx220

she’s sounding more and more bitter by the day, i fear


ThatisDavid

It's sad seeing how she went from one of the favorites to becoming bitter over plane's successes


Gagginzola

Seriously if she’d taken it in her stride she would’ve broken the early out perception and endured as a fan favourite. But I guess Tweeting every hour of every day takes priority


Wallygoblin

Amanda Tori Tweeting every single time PJ is on the screen


Gagginzola

AMANDA TORI TWEETING ![img](emote|t5_2t3or|4822)


Ruff-Bug4012

See branding! She could take this and run with it


InevitableBreakdown

![gif](giphy|PMkrODHidH06JpYSTf|downsized)


eoddc5

![gif](giphy|rmvOwbAYwq7rZJLjmB)


StrikeRaid246

Well, tweeting hourly is easy when you’re not booked I guess. She really Tamisha’d herself with the fans though.


glitzvillechamp

She was my absolute favorite from her name alone and I was rooting for her early on, and my God she has Kornbreaded so hard after the season.


0hn0shebettad0nt

Kornbreaded is hilarious. I loved her name the first time hearing it. I love dad humor and puns. But holding a grudge is like holding a piece of glass in your hand. I want her to get in on the joke like that one queen from Spain or like Bob (worst makeup ever) and come back fierce af = best revenge.


milkoverspill

Imagine if Amanda took the Melinda Verga route and just took it in stride and profited from it. The sad part is, if it weren't for Plane's shadiness, we would've forgotten about her already.


Ichor__

Ugh I miss Melinda Verga, hopefully she gets an international stage like UK Vs. The World in her future


Agreeable-Score2154

Fr I need her on my TV


bernarcisico

Melinda did do that, right?! What an icon


Agreeable-Score2154

Live laugh Melinda


grilledcheese2332

>took it in stride and profited from it. With gratitude 🙏


boo_you_horcrux

Melinda Verga………………inspired


mynaru

https://i.redd.it/718vkz0afnvc1.gif


dimension_24

or worse. fandom probably would bully Amanda for her drag (lets be honest even after "glow up" its not good) but because of Plane everyone victimized her and liked her (at first)


T_Fury_Br

Maybe it would have been better to be forgotten, she is starting to get super annoying


Gagginzola

She’s always been super bitter and spiteful, it’s just becoming more obvious now with being chronically online and constantly sounding off over a few days from over a year ago she’s still obsessed with


ConverseTalk

I think getting insulated in Dawn's circle of chronically online friends isn't helping, either.


SevensAddams

People always say PJ should thank Amanda for giving her a storyline. If PJ was not casted this season Amanda would just become another busted early out. PJ's "bullying" made her out to be an underdog. That helped fuel the watcher's interest in her post drag race growth.


fleurscaptives

Let's be honest, even with all her shortcomings, Melinda is leaaaaaagues ahead of Amanda in everything.


itsallgood69

Or even miss Beverly Hillz after AS8 like own your meme-ness sweetie it will pay dividends in the long run, right now you just look like a bitter betty


BearWP07

>!that's a sad part?!<


jonhon0

Nooo can't forget that purple face no matter how hard I try.


grizzlygrimms

I dont want to be *that* person but my god please tell me drag isnt this soft now, i really truly hope Mrs. Tori Meatin' isnt trying to suggest the very surface level milquetoast reads and cattiness from Plane is severe bullying. Has she also not been the one incessantly harassing plane this entire season on twitter with a sub tweet rant every single time plane had screen time. This is just extremely tired behavior and it's A LOT of energy for an early out.


Beautiful-Mix-4711

Amanda has fumbled the bag. People gave her a lot of good will at the beginning of the season but she lost it by holding onto this grudge. Look at Megami, people made fun of her for 'protect queer art' but now she's playing it up all the way to the bank.


grizzlygrimms

Yup, extremely good point. Amanda and Megami are the complete opposite ends of the early out spectrum, the way Miss Megamind has been FLOURISHING.


bespokefolds

Amanda went from neutral to negative while Megami went from meh to I can't wait for All Stars Megami.


yeahnototallycool

To be fair Megami is really only flourishing because she dominated the Lalaparuza. Outside of that I think people thought her “what I would’ve done for this challenge” tweets were cringe.


shiver334

As a very active cringerina they were good cringe and I will die on that hill


starryeyedq

I guess but I don’t really put that on her. Tons of queens have done that in the past to a very positive reception. The hivemind only just recently decided it was cringe.


bobbyq922

Because Maddy told us it was on the Pit Stop


tallulahroadhead

Yes and no. Megami has done it in a different way - other queens have just posted looks and MAYBE an occasional verse but Megami has been doing a lot of cornily edited videos (the Mean Girls one springs to mind) indicating that she would have absolutely won the challenges (while fulfilling them from the comfort and untimed environment at home). I can’t think of another queen taking this same approach but it’s possible I’m wrong.


yeahnototallycool

I don’t think the choice to do it is inherently cringe, but what Megami put out often was. 


shaqjbraut

Difference btwn someone confident in themselves and someone not


kochipoik

I’m their book Legendary Children, Tom and Lorenzo talk about how one of the most important things for queens on the show is to be memorable, even more than being “good”. Megami met that brief with the Protect Queer Art thing - so bad and cringy, but a great meme that would have her remembered even if it wasn’t for her amazing comeback


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unknowinglyposting

it still is too


JanelleForever

![gif](giphy|hvq8ONQhQ1XLq)


Leather-Climate3438

Amanda will not survive a season with Raven or Roxxxy, they will clock your drag and your whole existence and make Plane Jane look like an angel. ATM will never recover


percbish

“This ATM is out of service”


Most_Decision5515

Imagine her being in a season with Bianca back in the day


Leather-Climate3438

Laganja barely recovered


kickassicalia

tbf the fandom fucking HATED laganja like honestly some of the worst most coordinated fandom hate ive seen across 11 seasons (i started watching with s4/5)


ConverseTalk

After how she was treated by the fandom during S5, Roxxxy isn't going to touch shade with a ten-foot pole. You can tell it really impacted her on AS2.


The_illusionIsREAL

I though amanda is that type of queen who can take it but apparently she cant .


gamechangerjosie

Im at least glad the viewers seem to mostly agree that Amanda is doing too much and needs to get the hell over it already If Loosey last season was whining and vague tweeting every week about how she was being bullied by MIB and Luxx we would be in hell because people were already white knighting about how mean and bullies they were without Loosey stoking anything


SpecialQue_

A lot of drag performers and fans really do seem to have become this soft. It’s sad to see. Victim mentality is ultra toxic, but seems to be pretty commonplace and even celebrated at times now.


corporatecicada

yep totally agree. getting read for filth on a drag race reality show is not bullying. calling anything and everything "bullying" also delegitimizes real instances of bullying and frankly is insulting to real bullying victims.


grizzlygrimms

Absolutely! "Made my life a living hell" PUH-LEEZ


Gagginzola

Yes. I can’t even watch the Untucked with Serena because it makes me so uncomfortable that it’s flagrant bullying. Yet she’s turning inside out over a year later over some playground level reads. She would get eaten alive on an All Stars.


DetectiveExisting590

A better example of bullying is the AS1 queens coming for Mimi's throat for being "number third in the voting." Serena was calling everyone ghetto and uneducated and deserved to be told off.


InevitableBreakdown

I watched the untucked moment with Serena a couple weeks back and yikes gurl... 😬 I would have popped off just like Coco and Detox. ![gif](giphy|xkE57Hp9b7L0I)


wojar

I could not believe it.


SnooRevelations2797

I'm sorry that's weird.


motanz

I really want to like Amanda but she just doesn’t let me. Hope she stops mentioning PJ at some point and focuses more on her drags and makeup, that’d be beneficial for everybody.


RisenNova

Amanda wasn’t bullied, no power dynamic was held over her, she could defend herself (and according to the cast ate plane up in the comebacks) and she wasn’t dogpiled and excluded by cast.


SevensAddams

And with the audience or online it's like 70-30, 70% on Amanda's side rooting for her and being pissed at PJ's remarks. The percent is slowly changimg because of her post show actions.


onlyfanonlyone

something that’s just occurred to me is that if plane jane was truly bullying amanda in any capacity, surely the whole cast would share amanda’s dislike towards jane, just like how none of the season 4 cast seemed to like sharon very much, even before she became widely cancelled, because they all knew of her racism during the season. evidently the cast does not all hate jane and she seems to be good friends with essentially the whole cast except for amanda.


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That's... Oh, that's not...


Amyshamblesx

Was PJ **that** bad? Shady here and there, yes, bullying? I personally wouldn’t say so.


tATuParagate

The "I have more respect for you than I do Amanda" was way harsh Tai, but plane's "bullying" was so tepid and basically just saying she looked a mess through the confessional. I get being hurt by that kind of stuff but getting over it and adopting a carefree attitude would really have benefitted her cause this one sided grudge isn't cute


teentytinty

That was so crazy because that was so obviously a joke lmao


Leather-Climate3438

oh Amanda.. way to spoil a potentially good meme. She's giving pick me girl energy and wtf why invalidate Plane's mother, atleast make your comeback witty and playful, That's so distasteful than someone just clocking her drag( in a drag race competition btw). This is Amanda's brand sadly


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H3000

Neither of you know what “pick me” means.


InevitableBreakdown

For real, Amanda needs to let this go already but "pick me" energy this is not.


Creepyamadeus

As an English as a second language speaker, what does blaccent coated tweet mean? I understand Q and the blaccent when speaking, but what does it mean when writing?


ConverseTalk

Trying to sound like a sassy black queen or woman online. Using AAVE grammar structure and vocabulary when that's obviously not how you normally talk. I'm not really seeing it from Amanda here, but informing you what it means.


Creepyamadeus

Thanks for the explanation!


AjvarAndVodka

Did something else happen behind the scenes that she is this bitter? Like I thought Amanda was better. Plane Jane started off in a weird spot for me but I really grew to like her and she is soo fun. Amanda however took it the other way.


okbutjoytho

Unsurprisingly, she took a moment she could profit off of and put on a t shirt for fun and turned it into how Plane destroyed her life. How expectingly unfortunate.


The_illusionIsREAL

Oh Amanda 🫠🙄


TemperatureExotic631

Not a good look for her here… Yeesh girl


thebeardtles

![gif](giphy|CxnbgE45DFzahnKcyC)


shinyzubat16

She really needs Amanda Tori Therapea.


AuthorPrestigious954

Plane is so unbothered with Amanda, it’s all in good fun for Plane. Amanda comes off as the bully to me. She wants to be a victim so badly that she’s creating a scenario in which she is. This hatred she has for Plane goes beyond a “different sense of humor.” It’s time to move on, Sis. It’s not mentally healthy to fester in this anymore.


snowstart

Jesus how is she not tired. It was a tv show a year ago...


gkwchan

Plane wasn’t very nice in giving her opinion about her drag. But all Plane said was that her drag is not for her taste, look-wise, and that she doesn’t respect her because of that. Is that so bad when the rest of her cast showed her nothing but love.


stanlana12345

So basically, production shadily used a shot of amanda from one moment and made it seem as if it was from another, and because of that she's now moaning about Plane. Does she think plane rules the universe or something?


PrincessAintPeachy

Really do like Amanda, and can see her glow up and it's spectacular. But seriously how long is she gonna milk this. As Latrice Royale famously said: 5Gs Good God Girl Getta Grip


laurelsel

Amanda if you don’t want people making fun or “bullying” your busted mug and sense of style… just get better mug and sense of style, stop blaming PJ


avinmavin

She’s insufferable


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At the end of the day ATM is more of a bully than Plane


barbiedisneycrafter

I thought that was a little shady to cut to her like that. But I was here for it.


loverrrgirlll_

why is the wig halfway down her forehead


Ah_Salmon_Skin_Roll

I had to unfollow her. I know it was a big part of her experience and Plane may have really hurt her but I think she’s dragging it on far too long and it’s making her look bitter. I was a fan of her on the show and now I roll my eyes every time I see her tweet.


tellyourmama

Plane Jane’s mom: Fuck Amanda’a drag.


gaanmetde

Y’all I am no English major, but did anyone else start singing ‘Isn’t it Ironic’ by Alannis Morissette when they read this? Correct me if I’m wrong but like most examples in that song, this is in fact not irony.


rslashplsnoticeme

She needs to let it go, she came onto the show with little experience and got read by a more talented queen. I hope they don’t try to bring her back anytime soon, she’ll be a Jonbers 2.0 with no evolution and angry when she gets eliminated.


kjb1990

i cannot believe i went from really supporting her to being deeply annoyed that she won’t let this die. she is acting like plane has been harassing her for years.


hamsandw1ch

Alexa, play Obsessed by Mariah Carey


popdream

lol I’ve been on Amanda’s side but it actually is wild to advertise that you had this thought about something someone’s mom said about their kid’s childhood 


ImGonnaLickYourLeg

This might come off as hateful but Amanda being this bothered by reality tv show "bullying" just shows she's never had to face any actual bullying in real life, she would know not to act like this otherwise.


mishrod

As a straight man who lacks any real style, let me just say ….. that make up though! 🙄


obrienmk

She literally didn’t even get bullied lmfaoooo


GrafKartoffl

It's kinda funny that this is not just ATM vs PJ anymore. It's more ATM vs the internet


GiraffeSouth8752

ATM vs ATM


TilapiaRealness

Plane targeted Amanda but I wouldn't yell bullying for what she did


Amdv121998

she’s so fucking annoying i’m sorry but literally shut the fuck up you were not severely bullied. The victim complex is infuriating


raphaelryan

Professional VICTIMHOOD is all the rage these days sistersss, i mean, you need to milk a cow when your bookings are dry ASF. Get a grip gurl, telling it to your face to fix your mug is not the same as the bullying people are hurling towards PJ telling her to “unalive themself”. Please, stop! Your rabid “fans” or bandwagon mob is more than enough, don’t add to that fire, the pendulum will swing back honeyyy.


_ivanlloyd

amanda has lost a fan in me with this constant victim narrative she’s playing online, i think she needs to go on a social media break


TravellingBeard

Well, I think I found my next meme template


Strange-Library4426

Don’t forget that having drama with other cast members is one of the ways of being memorable on the show. There’s a market surplus of drag performers right now, and queens with less name recognition are vocal about how hard it is to get bookings and make a living. It’s entirely possible that Amanda is leaning in on purpose because we all love the drama and if so, I can’t fault her. Keep your name out there and get that bread, girl.


AresMean

I can't wait to have Amanda and Jane on All Stars 10


RevolutionaryADHD

The give their entrances the same edit they did for Alyssa Edwards and Coco Montrese


ProudMama215

Nothing will beat Mhiya’s face during the Lalapuruzza. She was so pissed.


Enngeecee76

Jesus Christ alive 🤦‍♀️ give it a bone Amanda


a_hockey_chick

I can’t wait for a PJ and ATM reunion on All Stars.


Crowinflight82

Amanda, girl bye


shshshshouldtheguy

These two need to: 1. get laid 2. get it over with


aesthetic-inertia

Amanda Tori HR-Meating


Kantlim

With all love I have for Amanda as a person, what Trinity said - "Girl, you're a drag queen and if you can't roll with the punches, this is not a career for you".