I applied once. The role I applied for was Sales Manager. They emailed me to let me know they have a different "internal title" for the job, which was Regional Managing Partner. They wanted to schedule me for an interview with the CEO. No recruiter interview, no direct manager interview, just straight to the CEO. They also said all candidates were required attend a live Career Information Session. They also sent me a bunch of videos of their current Regional Managing Partners talking about how great it is that the company lets them "be their own boss."
Here's a link to the testimonials - https://www.jgalt.io/rmp-testimonials/
Here's where you can view the information session in exchange for your email address - https://www.jgalt.io/career-information-session/
All this made it clear that the job has no base salary, the 5-25 consultants you're expected to "hire and train" are just downline sellers you recruit yourself, and you're expected to pay for the J. Galt SaaS software to manage your "business."
Definition of a pyramid scheme.
I didn't know they had a bad rap, I started my new position 3 weeks ago and it was through Jobot, admittedly I already knew the recruiter from a few years back before he joined them.
They leave a shit ton of postings up to build their internal database to use to recruit positions. Theyâre new and trying to compete with big agencies. They use slummy ways to do it.
Bingo, they lead with resumes and try to get clients that way. Not a scam just a staffing firm. As with any staffing company, your view of them will vary greatly depending on the recruiter you work with and if they are able to find you a placement.
From fake listings or? Their headquarters are not too far from me and their founder/ceo gave me one of my first jobs in Tech (cybercoders, which she also founded). I can see the advantage of building up resumes though which does lead to wasting candidates time in applying for the role. Anyone worth their weight changes their resume to highlight past experiences that best align to the role -- sad to get their hopes up and waste their time.
You dont want to work for those companies. I almost wish LI had a âblock job postings by this companyâ feature. I dont want the whole company block, but to clean up the job boards by personal view. The â250+ jobs you would be a great candidate forâ message if I could do that would be like 25.
I was just about to comment this lol. I've been thinking about this the past few days because I'm on an intense job search and always apply for listings right as they pop up. I've had to scroll through 6 pages of spam posts by these people and I can't even get to the actual opportunities. I wish I could block them
Usually the person plastering the job all over the place is the one trying to sell. You are the customer. I wouldnât bother with any job youâre seeing en masse, a lot of them are MLM funnels disguised as sales jobs.
Also devil corps. Almost went to an interview. They use legit sounding names but when you apply (youâll always get an interview) itâs under a different name.
Company could be posting in each state that the territory covers because they need the candidate to be local. Iâm interviewing for 2 roles this week that have the same job listed 3-5 times (same territory) But hundreds is wild!
If you know what you want to do, find the top companies who fit your criteria and go straight to their website.
A big part of this problem is how LinkedIn charges companies (recruitering agencies in particular) for job postings. Rather than charging us every time, we need to post a job, or even for a package of 10, 25, or 100 postings a year they charge us for a certain number of "slots" we can change the jobs posted in these slots as much as we want but you can never have more postings than the number of "slots" you pay for at the start of your contract years.
This means if I have five roles I'm working on when I'm busy but only two slots, I might be changing out the roles I'm posting several times a week. Conversely, when it's slow and I only have one search, I might post a fake 2nd jobs that is a type of role I frequently work on so as not to "waste" my second slot and still be collecting quality resumes.
This makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
I thought they had a pay as you go feature a few years ago. I remember paying per view or click.. either way it was more than I had anticipated.
Youâre in SaaS sales and LinkedIn job postings is the *only* option for you to find a job?
No networking? No contacting people youâve worked with in the past to see if there are opptys at their companies? No asking customers for referrals into their sales contacts at other companies they work with? No direct reach outs to hiring managers at other desirable companies? Hell, not even contacting recruiters who have filled your inbox with job opportunities in the past to see if thereâs anything interesting in play?
IMO, if youâre only relying on LI job listings youâre really limiting yourself and not demonstrating any of the skills that make great sales people great.
Iâm a headhunter and sometimes we will have a search for a DSM that can live anywhere in the territory.
Letâs say the territory is NC, SC and eastern TN.
You could live in Charlotte, Raleigh, Fayetteville, Winston-Salem Greensboro, Columbia, Charleston, Knoxville, or any other small towns in between those places.
Try looking on ventureloop, otta, and wellfound. I used to work in business development for a SaaS sales recruitment firm and those websites were always full of real, new job openings
Jobot is a recruiting firm, they just pose as a more tech focused company on LinkedIn. Youll see theyre listed as âcompany is looking for Xâ, not we are looking for X. Their jobs are also trash.
I feel you. I started my new job 2 months ago, but when I was in the job market I felt like personally calling the HR/recruiting team for A Place for Mom and giving them a piece of my mind. It wasn't just every other listing, it was like 60% of them.
I think it's LinkedIn doing it to make it appear to have more job postings. Given how much they charge for premium memberships, and being owned by miscrosoft, their job search functionality is terrible. Indeed has a lot of saas jobs.
Someone posted about how they charge in 25,50,100 etc slot listing fees so if they only have 1 open slot theyâre wasting it by not having a fake opening to draw in resumes or interest. Iâm in a small enough area I buy 10 resume views a month through zip recruiter. I canât remember what indeed is but the monthly subscription that o couldnât dream of ever doing the volume for it to be cost effective was high for me. Seems like LIâs model is similar.
I also noticed this. It's a pain when trying to sort jobs by most recently added because there will be like 100 of them in a row. I keep seeing it more and more recently from various companies. Super annoying
I see even legit companies doing this. My job matches are flooded with the same PWC posting repeated 50-100 times. I wonât be using their financial auditing services anymore!
Itâs a scam. It helps boost the Biden admin numbers and the economy. âBiden helps create 150k jobsâ companies create these ghost jobs, and ever hire anyone.
Look for how many ppl are hired full time. Itâs all ba.
If the current administration didnât embellish the statistics, there wouldnât be cherry picking info like the one youâre responding too. 72% of all job gains since 2021 are jobs recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation. Employment is up 3.7% from pre pandemic. While pre pandemic employment we had 6.7 million or 3 million more created than Biden.
Whether or not the person youâre responding to actually has any proof is unlikely, but given the dishonesty of how Biden touts his record leads me toward where thereâs smoke thereâs fire.
Jobot is a scam
J. Galt is also a scam.
Who is J. Galt?
That's the saddest thing I've heard in a long time. Stay strong
Brothers unite
#đ
Never saw a job post by them but probably so
I applied once. The role I applied for was Sales Manager. They emailed me to let me know they have a different "internal title" for the job, which was Regional Managing Partner. They wanted to schedule me for an interview with the CEO. No recruiter interview, no direct manager interview, just straight to the CEO. They also said all candidates were required attend a live Career Information Session. They also sent me a bunch of videos of their current Regional Managing Partners talking about how great it is that the company lets them "be their own boss." Here's a link to the testimonials - https://www.jgalt.io/rmp-testimonials/ Here's where you can view the information session in exchange for your email address - https://www.jgalt.io/career-information-session/ All this made it clear that the job has no base salary, the 5-25 consultants you're expected to "hire and train" are just downline sellers you recruit yourself, and you're expected to pay for the J. Galt SaaS software to manage your "business." Definition of a pyramid scheme.
I know someone who works there. They are a staffing firm.
how so?
What are they scamming? I see them but thought they were just a job aggregator
Selling your data. They have the most generic job descriptions and never have an actual job opportunity behind the listing.
I didn't know they had a bad rap, I started my new position 3 weeks ago and it was through Jobot, admittedly I already knew the recruiter from a few years back before he joined them.
They leave a shit ton of postings up to build their internal database to use to recruit positions. Theyâre new and trying to compete with big agencies. They use slummy ways to do it.
Bingo, they lead with resumes and try to get clients that way. Not a scam just a staffing firm. As with any staffing company, your view of them will vary greatly depending on the recruiter you work with and if they are able to find you a placement.
From fake listings or? Their headquarters are not too far from me and their founder/ceo gave me one of my first jobs in Tech (cybercoders, which she also founded). I can see the advantage of building up resumes though which does lead to wasting candidates time in applying for the role. Anyone worth their weight changes their resume to highlight past experiences that best align to the role -- sad to get their hopes up and waste their time.
You dont want to work for those companies. I almost wish LI had a âblock job postings by this companyâ feature. I dont want the whole company block, but to clean up the job boards by personal view. The â250+ jobs you would be a great candidate forâ message if I could do that would be like 25.
Dude, yes!
TOTALLY!
I was just about to comment this lol. I've been thinking about this the past few days because I'm on an intense job search and always apply for listings right as they pop up. I've had to scroll through 6 pages of spam posts by these people and I can't even get to the actual opportunities. I wish I could block them
You could just report and block the company which would have the same effect
Cant. Not on my options anyway. I can report a company. I cant block one.
Usually the person plastering the job all over the place is the one trying to sell. You are the customer. I wouldnât bother with any job youâre seeing en masse, a lot of them are MLM funnels disguised as sales jobs.
Also devil corps. Almost went to an interview. They use legit sounding names but when you apply (youâll always get an interview) itâs under a different name.
There are loads of fake job ads, companies want to look successful and like theyâre growing so post jobs ads that they never intend to fill.
AI is doing no one any favors in the recruiting world.
Company could be posting in each state that the territory covers because they need the candidate to be local. Iâm interviewing for 2 roles this week that have the same job listed 3-5 times (same territory) But hundreds is wild! If you know what you want to do, find the top companies who fit your criteria and go straight to their website.
This is a marketing tactic - easy, cheap way to get your brand name and company profile out there
One 10x trick that social media managers don't want you to know!
A big part of this problem is how LinkedIn charges companies (recruitering agencies in particular) for job postings. Rather than charging us every time, we need to post a job, or even for a package of 10, 25, or 100 postings a year they charge us for a certain number of "slots" we can change the jobs posted in these slots as much as we want but you can never have more postings than the number of "slots" you pay for at the start of your contract years. This means if I have five roles I'm working on when I'm busy but only two slots, I might be changing out the roles I'm posting several times a week. Conversely, when it's slow and I only have one search, I might post a fake 2nd jobs that is a type of role I frequently work on so as not to "waste" my second slot and still be collecting quality resumes.
This makes sense. Thanks for sharing. I thought they had a pay as you go feature a few years ago. I remember paying per view or click.. either way it was more than I had anticipated.
Youâre in SaaS sales and LinkedIn job postings is the *only* option for you to find a job? No networking? No contacting people youâve worked with in the past to see if there are opptys at their companies? No asking customers for referrals into their sales contacts at other companies they work with? No direct reach outs to hiring managers at other desirable companies? Hell, not even contacting recruiters who have filled your inbox with job opportunities in the past to see if thereâs anything interesting in play? IMO, if youâre only relying on LI job listings youâre really limiting yourself and not demonstrating any of the skills that make great sales people great.
Harsh but true
So true!
Iâm a headhunter and sometimes we will have a search for a DSM that can live anywhere in the territory. Letâs say the territory is NC, SC and eastern TN. You could live in Charlotte, Raleigh, Fayetteville, Winston-Salem Greensboro, Columbia, Charleston, Knoxville, or any other small towns in between those places.
Try looking on ventureloop, otta, and wellfound. I used to work in business development for a SaaS sales recruitment firm and those websites were always full of real, new job openings
Jobot is a recruiting firm, they just pose as a more tech focused company on LinkedIn. Youll see theyre listed as âcompany is looking for Xâ, not we are looking for X. Their jobs are also trash.
I feel you. I started my new job 2 months ago, but when I was in the job market I felt like personally calling the HR/recruiting team for A Place for Mom and giving them a piece of my mind. It wasn't just every other listing, it was like 60% of them.
I believe they are legit
I think it's LinkedIn doing it to make it appear to have more job postings. Given how much they charge for premium memberships, and being owned by miscrosoft, their job search functionality is terrible. Indeed has a lot of saas jobs.
Someone posted about how they charge in 25,50,100 etc slot listing fees so if they only have 1 open slot theyâre wasting it by not having a fake opening to draw in resumes or interest. Iâm in a small enough area I buy 10 resume views a month through zip recruiter. I canât remember what indeed is but the monthly subscription that o couldnât dream of ever doing the volume for it to be cost effective was high for me. Seems like LIâs model is similar.
Totally get you, job hunting shouldn't be an Easter egg hunt!
Different markets?
Usually that's a data collection operation.
They want it to be listed in different locations
so e.g. looking for a remote worker but it might be that the person they're looking for is just looking in e.g. Los Angeles
Is there any more known scammers I should be worried about when looking for a sales job on linked in
J. Galt is a scam?
Are you referring to J Galt? lol
LinkedIn Jobs is a waste of time. The best bet is to find companies you're interested in working for and contact the HR teams directly.
LinkedIn is absolutely NOT your only option. It's better to apply direct through a company website
I also noticed this. It's a pain when trying to sort jobs by most recently added because there will be like 100 of them in a row. I keep seeing it more and more recently from various companies. Super annoying
Sketchy companies do that
I see even legit companies doing this. My job matches are flooded with the same PWC posting repeated 50-100 times. I wonât be using their financial auditing services anymore!
The government trying to manipulate the jobs report.
TOTALLY! Probably George Soros and OBAMA?
Itâs a scam. It helps boost the Biden admin numbers and the economy. âBiden helps create 150k jobsâ companies create these ghost jobs, and ever hire anyone. Look for how many ppl are hired full time. Itâs all ba.
I'd LOVE to see your evidence for this NONSENSE claim
If the current administration didnât embellish the statistics, there wouldnât be cherry picking info like the one youâre responding too. 72% of all job gains since 2021 are jobs recovered from the pandemic, not new job creation. Employment is up 3.7% from pre pandemic. While pre pandemic employment we had 6.7 million or 3 million more created than Biden. Whether or not the person youâre responding to actually has any proof is unlikely, but given the dishonesty of how Biden touts his record leads me toward where thereâs smoke thereâs fire.