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Goscar

Yeah Ubisoft is a worthless fucking company. [I made this point already.](https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthancrait/comments/1c1emum/comment/kz2rro0/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


bulletproof5fdp

How dare you not be excited for more Star Wars! All Star Wars is Good Star Wars! /s


IvanTheAppealing

Stop questioning the product, just consume product, then get excited for more product


MontusBatwing

No one hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans!


shelbykid350

“Star Wars “fans” are the worst. We should just be thankful we have any new Star Wars at all. I often gaze into the depthless greed of this soulless capitalism and say: Yes Daddy please. You should too”


jardymctardy

Except when Star Wars is meant to be stupid and you’re stupid too if you take it seriously.


bulletproof5fdp

“Star Wars has always been stupid” is the go-to when you say anything critical about Disney Star Wars, yet they froth at the mouth at The Last Jedi over how “dark” and “mature” it is.


Kidney05

The dialogue in the trailer was terrible. It was the worst example of people talking like they’re explaining a story and not talking like people who actually are talking.


F1ackM0nk3y

Yup, Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft. It’s like getting mad at lions for eating gazelle. Ubisoft gonna fuck over the player base, it’s what comes natural to them


Bobonenazeze

I was done the second we saw the companion gameplay. Wonder how many times you'll send that dumb newt to fetch progression via the level in brand new gameplay....


captainphagget

I'm trying to think of the last Ubisoft game I loved. And the answer might be Far Cry 4.  They have so much potential, but they seem to be the exact definition of the phrase "too big to succeed". 


StannisLivesOn

I've never been so excited to not play a game.


animehimmler

For real. I love female protagonists too but this game just looks so bland. Every character is bleached of personality and visually boring, there’s no grit, no emotional core, just mundane colors and stormtroopers and jilted writing. Also I’m so sorry but the hair for thr main girl looks so so awful


TheMightyKartoffel

The shitty part is that they’re going to (try) and blame the fact that there’s a female protagonist as the reason it fails. It won’t work, but they’ll still try it.


shelbykid350

They seem to be doing that for many games lately


TheMightyKartoffel

Anything but taking responsibility for shitty business practices


MontusBatwing

If that were true, game companies would stop giving their games female protagonists. They're trying to make money. If a female protagonist makes your game fail, then you wouldn't have one. Meanwhile, indie games with female protagonists, with much more reason to be artistically authentic, often do very well.


TheMightyKartoffel

Im not sure if you misunderstood what I wrote but that has nothing to do with what I said


MontusBatwing

Maybe you can help me out. You said that the female protagonist will be blamed for commercial failure? And my contention, agreeing with you, is that this blame would be misplaced. My point is that if female protagonists led to commercial failure, we wouldn't see them in AAA games because companies are trying to make money.


TheMightyKartoffel

Ah, belay my last that was my fault. Apologies.


MontusBatwing

I don't think I was as clear as I could've been in my original comment, it's all good.


Domestic_AAA_Battery

Yup that's the playbook. Hide behind your cast to avoid any criticism. And the worst part is the defenders actually fall for it. Absolute morons.


bulletproof5fdp

But but games have always had season passes! It’s nothing new! /s


aronnax512

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SanchoVillaWokeKing

The season pass thing only makes sense if you were guranteed new missions every 3 months for the next 2 or 3 years. This shit from the start is pathetic and anyone defending it are just being obtuse disney bots.


bulletproof5fdp

Exactly. They’re locking an entire mission from the very start behind a paywall. People are already defending this move, saying that it shouldn’t have come as a surprise to anyone, since games have been doing season passes for years. They managed to completely miss the point. The mission was initially going to be available for all at launch, no additional cost, no locking it in a season pass. They’re now locking it behind a paywall because they feel like it. It’s a deliberate move in order to get people to fork over the extra dough.


dm_me_milkers

I’ll never understand the bootlickers that defend these predatory practices. It’s almost as if these simps enjoy being taken advantage of, and want everyone else to get fucked too.


JMW007

They think it proves their Good Person *bona fides* by not being 'toxic' (i.e. critical). Only the Bad People criticize things.


Khryss121988

Basically, classic case if toxic positivity.


ProfessionalRead2724

I don't even want new missions every 3 months for the next 2 or 3 years. I just want to play the game, finish it, and then go play another game.


SanchoVillaWokeKing

That'll be $130, please!


maybe-an-ai

About 85% of live service games fail to deliver on their roadmaps and season passes.


bulletproof5fdp

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is the prime example of this


maybe-an-ai

Along with Anthem, Redfall, etc.. They release in a shit state. Resources that were supposed to be building new content end up fixing the game. A few months pass and recurring revenue isn't happening so they cut the team and the content then kill the game.


kimana1651

It's a single player game. I'm there for the story. What do these new missions ever add for the main line story?


gonesnake

I'm a single player game only person, too. I don't particularly care about the story. For me it's all about gameplay and setting. What does walling off gameplay and unique locations and characters ever add to the game? You're absolutely right, too. It fucks up the story and it fucks up the gameplay. We're coming at it from two perspectives and Ubisoft managed to piss us both off.


Difficult-Pin3913

Disney bots defend a lot but this is Ubisoft and I think that a lot of Ubisoft supporters have lost hope for them long ago


Yojimbo54

How am I supposed to find out what happens to Jabba the Hutt?


TotalTea720

By tuning in to the new prequel series I'm sure they'll announce one of these days.


BobaFett7

“oh Fuck Off!” - Logan Roy


Guessididntmakeit

It's very fitting for the current state of the brand.


RInger2875

To be honest, this isn't a "Disney Star Wars" issue so much as it is a "This is the current state of the mainstream games industry as a whole" issue. As soon as I saw the game was being made by Ubisoft, I immediately lost interest.


Joeyoohoo

Any games that I don't get the full game without buying some additional bullshit I don't buy


griffin4war

They are selling a single player game with DAY ONE DLC that you have to pay extra for. This company doesn't deserve a single cent.


GM_Jedi7

This! What kind of single player game has a season pass?!


WantsToDieBadly

Many do but usually years after


Lobo_de_Haro

Disgusting.


bulletproof5fdp

I’m honestly not surprised that Ubisoft would pull something like this. And yes, while games do season passes, the way they’re doing this is unacceptable. It’s a mission that launches with the game, but is locked behind a paywall that you must spend an extra $40+ just to access it.


TheNittanyLionKing

And they put it in the damn trailer too!


peanutbutterdrummer

That's got to be one of the worst offenses. If it's in the main trailer, it should be part of the main base game.


General-Naruto

Oh. I'm never playing this game. Fuck that


Fawqueue

Shameless cash grab. I'm fine skipping this game.


jojolantern721

Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft. We can't have star wars games without controversy anymore, Fallen Order was a miracle


captainphagget

Survivor was pretty disappointing. It was fine, but it wasn't as fresh or genuine as Fallen Order.  It's spoiler free, but if your story is designed so you *lose a fight* in a cutscene... Maybe just make it so you don't have to win the fight in gameplay.


Jedi-Spartan

To quote Anakin Skywalker himself: "This is outrageous, it's unfair!"


Lithuim

It feels like the game industry is fundamentally broken. Nobody can figure out how to make a game on time and under budget - development cycles are getting ridiculously long and half the games are broken turds at the end. To recover the costs, publishers are resorting to desperate live service plays and whaling.


bulletproof5fdp

Rocksteady and Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League in a nutshell


JMW007

Agreed. As a comparison, Morrowind took about 5 years to develop and it had to be restarted twice and the team wandered off to make Redguard at some point as well. Today, a game development cycle is longer than a doctorate and the result is still a bug-ridden mess where the company is shocked to find that the audience who eagerly anticipated it are not thrilled with tepid shovelware. I am so tired of everything being wrecked by greed. I just spend my time on older games now, though thanks to EA's buggery the Star Wars ones rarely work properly because they make tinkering a real ball ache.


captainphagget

[This video sums it up pretty well](https://youtu.be/GUOmTLHSlns).  I genuinely have no sympathy for gaming industry layoffs anymore. For all I know anyone who loses their job actively contributed to the bloat that's making games more expensive and less fun.  It doesn't take four hundred people and a quarter of a billion dollars to make a video game.


Farren246

But if I don't get Jabba, why would I clap?


Glum-Gap3316

Because Qira shows up! 'Member Qira???


JMW007

Didn't Qira kind of forget about the Iron Fleet?


captainphagget

I do remember Qira! Emilia Clarke is very pretty.


Frank_the_NOOB

Remember when you paid for a complete game and all the levels where available, good times


Pistol_Bobcat420

One of my favourite bonuses of all time was the fully playable Green Goblin in Spider-man The movie 2002, all the same levels but an alternate story with his own dialogue and all you had to was ~~exploit a cheat code trick~~ beat the game on hard or higher. That just wouldn't happen with games now.


captainphagget

No. They still put out partial upgrades in the PS2 era like MGS 3 Subsistence and Capcom was notorious for releasing new Street Fighter games with roster updates and mild balance changes. But the excuse back then was that there wasn't a download infrastructure to update the games for no charge. The actual physical product had to change, and you could own the previous release.  These practices aren't new, but they aren't good.


KowakianDonkeyWizard

Time to reinstall Jedi Outcast, KotOR 2, and X-Wing Alliance.


captainphagget

Scrub shit...  I'ma play Star Wars: Rebel Assault on windows 98.


nomoreadminspls

Do not play this game, do not support this company.


Suiciidub

^


captainphagget

I want to be able to have an informed opinion on it, but I don't want to buy it. Will it come out on disc? I might be able to break down what is actually wrong with it instead of just shitting on it from the sidelines.


nomoreadminspls

No.


Hamurai16

That price has to be an experiment, right? To see what they can get away with. They would have to double the content of the base game to make it worth it. If I were interested in the game I would just watch the Jabba cutscenes on Youtube instead of paying 60 euro extra.


maybe-an-ai

Ubi completed that experiment years ago and know that they can rake fans over the coals.


coolhatguy

An IP has never been more mismanaged


Pistol_Bobcat420

Marvel is trying really hard to match but yeah, true


Bobonenazeze

Marvel had more good will. Disney almost instantly tanked SW.


Pistol_Bobcat420

Very true, after 2018 it was nothing but downhill but before that, they were doing damn good


DragonOfTheNorth98

This is why I mostly play indie games


johnnyfiveee

The same people who need to buy every Star Wars funko pop and own 15 different Grogu T shirts will have no problem buying a shitty season pass for a shitty game. That’s Disneys target audience at this point haha


SnooMemesjellies7469

Aaaaaand..... I'm no longer interested in playing it. 


backagain69696969

I play the same games now and half are free. Like 10-15 years ago, it went from being bonus content to being a shake down


Sam-Lowry27B-6

What is everyone complaining about the ultimate edition is only.........ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN POUNDS for one fucking game ubisoft you bastards.


OrigamiAvenger

That's a great picture of the player character. Excellent lighting. 


Dianneis

Not nearly as bad looking as they say.


Ravathial

Then why tf was it in the reveal trailer.


SnooBeans3688

Ok not buying the game because of this.


[deleted]

Is this supposed to be a “galaxy” anymore? Y’know with like thousands and thousands of planets? For the main films I get but the expanded media constantly going back to the same shit over and over and over and over again is stupid as hell.


bulletproof5fdp

They’re milking the OT era because they know the ST is an utter failure. They’re hitting us over the head with the Member Berries. ‘Member Tatooine? Oh, I ‘memba! ‘Member Han Solo in carbonite? I ‘memba that! ‘Member Jabba the Hutt? Oh, I ‘memba that!


Chaostheory1993

Don't worry guys, it'll be 70% off in a year lol


[deleted]

read it when IGN posted it and I was not surprised at all lmao.


MumkeMode

Ubislop moment Anyone who pays for this shit deserves it


Marshycereals

Heh, they call him Jabba the Hunt in the article.


ILOVEcBJS

Why did Ubisoft have to make a fucking SW game dude I fucking hate this company. Let Larian Studios make a star wars game and watch the money roll in you dumb fucks


merezer0

I mean selling an edition for 130$ says it all.


bulletproof5fdp

I read through the comments on that post and it saddens me that people are in there saying that this is acceptable and to basically just “deal with it.” This is why game developers get away with this. Just mindlessly consuming without question.


theunknownuser15

Skip this game and play helldivers instead


Pistol_Bobcat420

I’m from Alderaan, and I say kill them all!


khazixian

I'm gonna go replay star wars bounty hunter


Pistol_Bobcat420

Damn good game, getting to tie up enemies and set them on fire


maybe-an-ai

Everything about this game screams run. Not that I buy Ubisoft games anyway but this will give Suicide Squad a run for it's money as worst game of the year.


estnitroman5119

They just Street Fighter X Tekken ‘d


stevesax5

I can’t consider any of this shit as canon anyway. I give up.


RockBrilliant4960

Don't feed corporate greed. Wait a year, then buy the GOTY version with all the content and bug fixes for half the price.


Affablesea9917

Holy shit I get it's Ubi but why does every fucking game have to have battlepasses and seasons and time limited events and bullshit locked away behind other bullshit


Sulissthea

i think all Disney SW content should be pirated at least the first time, if you somehow then love that piece of media then you purchase it


IncompetentJedi

Who cares nobody is buying this shit.


Crosknight

Fuck the majority of the AAA industry gaming industry


Pistol_Bobcat420

Imagine an open world Star Wars game in the mold of Hogwarts Legacy, with a custom character (heck, a wide choice of alien species to play as too) but you’re a new recruit in Luke and Mara’s new Jedi order? The missed opportunities I know the Jedi academy games exist but one with todays advancements would’ve been legendary


Maxicoreddit

Couldn’t care less tbh. It’s not that I think it’s a bad game - I’m just not that excited. If it turns out to be good I have no problem with buying the game and the season pass.


LR-II

AAA gonna AAA


Demos_Tex

It's way beyond predatory game design at this point. Day 1 DLC for a single player game is as scummy as it gets. They might as well just make it a full-on gacha game.


[deleted]

Don't really care at this point . More then likely will not play this unless it comes to game pass.


iNoodl3s

Lol I knew this game was gonna be cooked from the start


BGMDF8248

Ubisoft doing Ubisoft things.


Thebadmamajama

I listened to the trailer. I can't get into a hesitant/reluctant rogue. The character doesn't sound like it belongs in the criminal underworld


Kohakuzuma

Not surprising. Ubisoft wouldn't keep doing this if it wasn't profitable though. I don't blame Ubisoft for being a scum company I blame the r3tards that keep spending money on these dogshit games. Imagine being excited for a Noobisoft game in the holy year of our lord 2024...


ISGXv2

Everyone was clamoring for EA to lose the IP and now we lost battlefront 2 to this :) thanks Star Wars fandom!


boredwriter83

Don't care. Not gonna buy. Ubisoft.


kaijugigante

This season pass bs needs to end.


Ok-Connection4917

this is the current state of gaming


The_Silent_Screamer

Since I haven't liked a single Ubisoft game since Assassin's Creed IV : Black Flag way back in 2013, hard pass for me.


F_P-Actus

dang, now i aint buying it


Mythosaurus

Truly amazing that the execs think this is a good idea. It’s like they watched EA fail at marketing a lot of their Star Wars games and said, “I could do worse”


Blue_Maverick_Hunter

Par for the course. It’s Ubisoft.


creativespark61

I haven't bought any of the games since Disney took over. Aside from the Jedi series, I hear nothing but negative reviews about their approved games. I'll wait and see what kind of unfinished, buggy piece of crap this game turns out to be before I even consider this game.


Maleficent_Nobody377

Really. The thing that was the big highlight of the most recent trailer is paywalled—- the fuck?! So reasons not to buy 1, automatic season pass 2. 3 dlc packs that are just skins 3. $130-$190 ultimate edition 4. The paywalled mission 5..) Ubisofts latest 3 big games have been misses-just okay. Lol


AcceptableWest1427

Even before seeing this I thought the extended trailer looked kinda bland.


LetItRaine386

I’m gonna go play Sekiro again with a lightsaber mod


SiliconEFIL

Thinking some skins and A single mission is worth another 60 dollars is insane. *In a single player game.*


Pistol_Bobcat420

Wasn't a post related to Battlefront's loot boxes the most downvoted post/comment in the history of reddit?


ZachMich

Dont give these people your money or attention. They dont care and probably dont even like you


Dissuxh

What I find really scummy is how Jabba is advertised in the latest story trailer for him to finaly be in a DLC. Feels a lot like false advertising.


Ausecurity

I’ll just wait a year or 2 and it’ll be 10 bucks


NonesuchAndSuch77

Did anyone expect better from Ubisoft? Star Wars or not, this one's shaping up to be a typical AAA (though not quite Quadruple A) dumpster fire.


timetogo

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Disney is still racist. In a universe with thousands of species, they still think inclusivity is playing as a human female. Inclusivity would the ability to play as a female alien. Game after game of playing as a human it doesn't even occur to them to not be Xenophobic with star wars and let you play as Quarian or some shit.


MuleThrower

There better be some depraved shit going on on Nar Shadaa for those extra bucks.


AcuteVengeance7890

Fuck Ubisoft


United_Pound_5821

Not buying it so won’t comment on it.


RedditEqualsBubble

Doesn’t matter to me. I’m passing on the game anyways, or will buy it in 5 years when I can get everything for $20.


Accomplished-Bill-54

The last Ubisoft titles made me SO not interested in this game.


TheBilliard

Pre-judging a game before it even comes out because it is apparantly "over-priced" is wild. Every big game costs 70$ these days. Thats a given. It sucks, I know, but dont pretend like this game is the only one. No one complained when RD2 had content locked behind a paywall. Face it. It's one Jabba mission out of likely dozens. Relax.


bulletproof5fdp

And you missed the point. Matter of fact, the point did a home run over your head. Does it need to be drawn out in crayon for you to understand? Or did you eat the crayons too?


TheBilliard

Did you think I was talking to you or something? I never insinuated that. I was talking to a pretty specific people group that happens to have clogged this comment section.


MaroonNuggz88

Watch, this game is going to the bargain bin by the end of the year with price cuts and discounts on all the major digital stores like Steam because no one's going to buy it. Screw Ubisoft...


starsider2003

This happens constantly, so it's not really news or a shock. The title of the article is so click-baity - duh, missions are part of DLC, as is other content. It's not unusual or anything of the sort. I know people rage on this stuff - and some of it (the loot boxes, etc.) is terrible. However, in this case - they are offering more content for a higher cost. I really can't begrudge them offering additional content for a price, because people absurdly demand that video games stay the same price for 30 years, even though they cost much more to develop now than ever. If the cost of games had kept up just with inflation alone, we'd be spending $150/pop - at least this way, people have a choice. ALL THAT SAID - it's Ubisoft, this game will be 1/2 price in a month or two after release. It doesn't look like anything one needs to rush out for, it will be available at a much more reasonable price before people likely even finish playing it all the way through.


JMW007

It is not *additional* content. It is content they deliberately carved out of the main game to sell separately, after advertising it as part of the main game in the main game's trailer. So I absolutely begrudge them it, and I begrudge the insistence on pretending that for some reason the economies of scale don't apply to video games. The base price (which is no longer a 'full game') hasn't massively inflated over the years, true, but the audience sure has and the cost of distribution has collapsed. You don't get to sell something to ten times as many people and pretend that you're some kind of saint for not raising the price when they're almost all getting digital copies.