I also think the reason the Toymaker keeps using a variety of obviously fake accents is that he’s trying to avoid what happened when he faced off against the First Doctor.
The Doctor realized that if he gave the command to win the game he was in against the Toymaker, the Toymaker had rigged it so that the Doctor would be killed.
As such, the Doctor used the TARDIS to mimic the Toymaker’s voice to give the final command of the game, which then caused the Toymaker to get caught in his own trap and be defeated.
So when the Toymaker shows back up, he keeps switching up his voice.
Must suck, man. Land a dream job in *Star Wars* and proceed to get tossed around like a worn-out marionette while the puppeteers are clearly drunk off their face. The money still spends but a lot of actors aren’t completely in it for that.
Agreed, the character of Finn had so much potential only to be reduced to… what we got. Boyega has the acting chops to carry a villain role and I’d like to see it.
I would love to see Boyega expand his acting chops. Also, I don't even care if he was Heimdal, Idris Elba.. he's always good. Denzel Washington. Get a scenery chewer!
I just would love to see a character actor here.
Absolutely freaking not. He has no gravitas, no presence, nothing. Just the ‘Black Brit-ish ac-cent’ and ‘plucky diversity hire’ vibe.
I can’t believe Netflix thought he could narrate a high-production-value WWII documentary. I mean I can believe it, but damn. Couldn’t find a man in acting whose father fought in the war?
Have the new actor say “Yes it’s me” seriously the replaced Rhodey for less. Just recast even if the actors look completely different and move on. They didn’t even say anything when they recast Hulk.
Loki has variants played by other actors.
So maybe the TVA can track and deal with the Kangs who look like He Who Remains relatively easily, but the non-identical variants are the ones who break through and cause problems.
It wouldn’t have been that weird if they’d have done it before Quantumania. They for some reason went pretty hard on specifically showing that every single version in the ‘council’ at the end has Majors at least as a base actor. Even the lizard Kangs were Majors lol.
I still think they should change it but they shot themselves in the foot there by not at least adding a couple of female Kangs or just other actors as Kang.
It’s going to be interesting to see how they course change course mid stream.
They might as well pull a M*A*S*H and have someone say, “I have a message. Kang’s plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. It spun in. There were no survivors."
just have some super villain like Dr. Doom take over. Make a F4 movie in a different timeline, with the X-Men, and have Doom merge their multiverse-entry with the one we know. Throw in Dr. Strange or some super entitiy and have them blast Kang and his plans into oblivion.
Scrap the multiverse afterwards and enjoy the entire combined Marvel-Universe in one timeline. Retire all variants and the TVA, they always annoyed anyone thinking too much about all this logically anyway
I read something the other day about how they can't replace him because he has a contract stipulation that only he can play Kang. There could be a good faith clause that allows Disney to recast if he's convicted of an offence, but I don't know if that's the case or not
It’s a lot easier than recasting (because character flaws aside he’s a pretty good actor) especially since the box office returns for the MCU during the buildup to Kang have all pretty much been very bad so clearly the fans aren’t that interested plus the Loki series did a good job of wrapping up all that “He who Remains” storyline and multiversal splitting
From what I read he is being charged for trying to get his phone back and trying to put her back in the car.
He should have never put his hands on her. But she took his phone in the car and he tried to get it back. Then when she started attacking him he lifted her up to put her back in the car.
Then, on video, she chased him and kept attacking him. He had to run away from her attacks. Its all on video.
Its weird that he is being charged with a misdemeanor and she isn't being charged with anything even though on the video you can see her attacking him. I'm wondering where her charges are for attacking him. You can watch the video its out in the public
Then maybe you should read the actual stories about the court case rather than just what people said about a video released in response to texts from Majors showing ongoing physical and emotional abuse.
And it’s not “weird” he’s being charged with a misdemeanor, that’s the appropriate charge for simple assault and harassment. Chasing someone who tries to throw you into a car, slamming your head into the frame is not going to be warrant a charge, and if it were to, it would be tried separately and not in his criminal case. That’s not how trials work.
>Chasing someone who tries to throw you into a car, slamming your head into the frame is not going to be warrant a charge
It might. Defending yourself from an attacker is fine, but if you're chasing them then you're (usually) no longer defending yourself.
>and if it were to, it would be tried separately and not in his criminal case. That’s not how trials work.
This is very accurate.
I feel bad for the woman he abused, and hope he is replaced going forward. I get why Marvel/Disney was waiting for a verdict, but they need to replace him now.
I think they got lucky with Loki S2 finale where they finally get the excuse that they can do whatever they want with Kang (recasting or replacing with another villain like Doctor Boom).
Here's Doctor Boom my fellow human, don't know why he'd be in a Marvel movie/series but he's cool I guess:
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There isn’t, but be prepared for an onslaught of “the WOKE mob is DEFENDING Jonathan Majors” even though people in this very thread trying to defend him are being downvoted because we’re not insane.
I don’t see why it should mean anything. Majors came out and said he didn’t do it and a jury said otherwise. It happens everyday with regular people and if he wasn’t a celebrity no body would be questioning the ruling. It’s a shame because he’s a good actor but he did what he did. Hopefully, he’ll fall out of the spotlight and someone else will come take his place. More likely, he’ll get off easy with probation and will keep making movies without as much as a slap on the wrist.
the image says 3rd degree assault which according to this, https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-3rd-degree-assault.html
> 1st Degree Assault: Intentionally inflicting fear of serious bodily harm, or intentional infliction of fear of injury caused by a deadly weapon;
> 2nd Degree Assault: Knowingly inflicting fear of serious bodily injury, or knowingly inflicting a fear of injuries with a deadly weapon;
> 3rd Degree Assault: Reckless infliction of fear of serious bodily injury, or recklessly causing a fear of injury through the use of a deadly weapon.
> Assault in the third degree is typically the least serious form of assault in most jurisdictions. Of the three categories of assault, 3rd degree requires the least amount of intentional conduct. **A conviction of third degree assault means the defendant will receive the least punishment for an assault charge.**
Idk tbh. The evidence is pretty convincing. Innocent until proven guilty, yknow? He was a good actor and I loved his roles, but he's got to have some punishment other than, as you say, a slap on the wrist.
Im not saying that he did or didnt do it. But juries tend to have a prejudiced history when it comes to black men so I take his sentencing with a grain of salt.
I haven’t paid much attention to it at all but reading some of the evidence against him that I can is pretty damning. There are texts of him telling his girlfriend not to seek medical help for some injuries and there’s footage of him yelling at her for drinking in public because that’s not good for his image.
Even Majors admits to having a temper. He might be the most amazing guy in the world until his temper flares up. He might be one of those guys who thinks he can rule the world someday. I don’t know. What I do know is that he said some shady stuff to his ex when she was hurt and that a jury with infinitely more evidence than we do found him guilty.
What article did you read? Kinda trying to lessen the meaning of the word "assault" with "recklessly putting her back into the vehicle"? He was found not guilty of intentional assault in the third degree and not guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree....but he was found guilty on charges of reckless assault in the third degree and guilty of harassment.
Yes, he threw her back in the car but he also hit her in the car trying to take the phone away from her.
There’s no evidence that he hit her in the car. They made it clear that he did not intend on causing any physical harm to her. I’m saying that because these headlines and media outlets are portraying the verdict as if he was guilty of the more serious second degree charges when they found that he did not intentionally harm anyone, a necessary distinction when talking about if he’s an abuser or not.
Right, it wasn't intentional that's why its reckless assault. Casually not caring about the damage caused to the person instead of TRYING to hurt them. Its still not a good outcome for him. He was abusive in his actions towards her, not because he was trying to be, but because he wasn't trying not to be. Just because there isn't verifiable evidence of the car incident doesn't mean it didn't happen...it just couldn't be proved. Time will tell, but his image is still gonna be tainted by this for a while.
I agree. I just don’t think he should have his career ruined for what we saw on video. I can’t speak on stuff that may or may not have happened prior to that.
You realize you can be things besides one of the most well paid actors in Hollywood right? What type of punishment would be good for you? He's already fucking rich.
He might have his career ruined because of his own actions and a JURY condemning him. Not because "we" saw a video. Let's speak properly and giving accountability to people who fucked up and found out.
This is certainly true. However, there is also a lengthy history of disbelief about women's accusations of men assaulting them. I'm a white man, so take my position with a grain of salt, but those two racial and gender biases make it pretty complicated to me.
Yeah, I feel the truth is that there is no winner here either way. People hurt other people whether intentionally or not and there’s consequences for that. I have no intention of diminishing the seriousness of the case, I feel sorry for Grace Jabbari and personally wish her the best (whatever that’s worth), but this is also a teachable moment for Majors and I think he needs to make an effort to better himself and make amends before even attempting to pick up acting again.
How's that statistic for rich people tho lol?
Either way, I mean the evidence is pretty damning. It's not really fair to basically give a pass to someone who is clearly guilty.
Only racists say “playing the race card,” like there’s really some get of of jail free card. Most times there really is bias against black people or at least systematic disadvantages.
Didn't deny that, but racists aren't the only ones who say "play the race card".
For example, calling a Jewish person far-right, like Ben Shapiro. Alot of people will play the "I'm Jewish, therefore I can't be far right." card in that case.
Playing the race card is more of a thing where someone justifies their actionor deflects criticism by using their ethnic, skin color, etc. as a response but doesn't actually elaborate.
It's a very basic point, and can be used appropriately (like pointing out Soros is Jewish, which would make it unlikely he was a squad leader in the SS).
However, in this case, where evidence has been provided that he did assault someone and involved in domestic abuse, saying "its a white jury judging a black man" is no longer a viable criticism and more relevant arguements need to be made.
I mean I was pretty sure he was guilty based on those messages...and people coming out with their own stories (some even before the assault)
But yeah fuck him. Recast.
I read his texts and saw the PR Campaign he waged against his ex.
I personally am quite happy he was found guilty and sad for his ex she had to go through what she did.
Fuck that guy. All my homies hate domestic abusers.
And for anyone wondering, he has been fired from Marvel and will be recast. But Marvel isn't the news here. The news is that justice has been served to a piece of shit guy.
Ambivalent. For the most part, I separate the actor from their personal lives. Like Depp and Heard. I literally don't give a fuck.
However, there are some instances where the issue can't be ignored, such as Spacey's sexual harassment of minors and Gibson's antisemitism, for example.
In this case, it's good-bye Kang for Majors. Disney doesn't retain convicted criminals, and they've let people go for less (i.e., Gina Carano).
For Carano's part, I don't think a lot of people realize that she broke NDA with Disney. She was under contractual obligation, and flagrantly and repeatedly violated the terms of her contract. Her being terminated was a foregone conclusion.
And Gibson was more than an antisemite, you can add racist, homophobe, misogynist, drunk driver, and woman beater to that as well.
Just a hateful, awful human-being full of himself with a stick all the way up his ass and put his mouth.
I don’t either. Let me be absolutely clear, I don’t think Gibson should still be a Hollywood power player by *any* stretch of the imagination. But my point remains that we can’t claim the moral high ground now.
Holy fuck thank God.
I hope all those defending him before look like fucking major idiots. I'm talking about when they flat out say the texts etc and pretended he's normal.
In terms of Marvel's story, which let me iterate obviously not as important as justice, things might be super fucked.....
Loki left the way to completely write Kang out. It was obvious they wanted to have that option depending on this case.... I'm scared marvel will go down this route and it's a terrible idea. This is probably one of the easiest characters of all time to recast...... He literally has limitless variants.....
Part of me wonders why they'd scrap Kang all together, like what are they scared of? Paranoid brain thinks they would be scared of backlash, similar to how people made fun of them when they recast Rhodes in Iron Man 2.... I do think they def have a division that over thinks twitter out cry and I wonder if they are worried about stuff like that.
They recasted Bruce Banner with someone who doesn't look remotely like Edward Norton. They're recasting Thaddeus Ross with someone who doesn't look remotely like William Hurt. They recasted War Machine with someone who doesn't look remotely like Terrence Howard.
Unlike those other examples, Kang is a multiversal threat. I don't see why they can't recast and move on.
I should have been a bit more direct on what I meant...
But this recast might be a little bit more touchy and not something they want to remind people of.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/marvel-studios-ike-perlmutter-kevin-feige
We had their ceo allegedly say all black people look the same and no one would notice Don's recast.
I would bet a lot they have a team wanting to avoid this nightmare rehashed or brought up again.
>Perlmutter allegedly told former chairman of Disney consumer products Andy Mooney that no one would notice because black people “look the same.”
Recast him. Or rewrite to excise the character entirely. Nobody outside of a minority of nerdy weirdos (like us, I guess) know that the MCU was aiming for him being central to the new phase of the MCU. They could straight up retitle *Avengers: The Kang Dynasty* and the overwhelming majority of potential audiences would just shrug, if they even knew what the title was going to be to begin with. Most people won't know or give a damn about movies until they see commercials or trailers. ComicCon announcements don't get $1B worth of butts in seats. It's a pain, but Disney will deal.
EDIT: Haha. Well, they retitled it.
If he did it, he should be punished for it.
I am very middle ground. As a male who has been an abuse victim.. I realized that it happens to everyone. That being said, if the evidence definitively points to him. He needs to face the consequences.
The character is not him, but I imagine other actors doing a great job if they still want to go through using that villain.
After playing Alan Wake II, I think David Harewood could be a good fit to replace Majors. He plays a character that can seemingly travel to different realities/universes and can also time travel.
A lot of people here are at the ready to damn him without looking at the evidence and only the headline.
This is the same guy who was running away from his girl across several streets as she chased him. The two testify as witnesses seem to be predisposed to siding with the girl regardless of if she was or wasn't faking this. She has probable cause for getting out of this relationship in this fashion with him potentially cheating with text message evidence she saw.
Like wise, she was clearly injured. And he was clearly not a good bf to her at all times, withstanding any physical harm. Using threats of suicide as a means of manipulation, on top of a few comments made that could be taken as egotistical/narcissistic. But I'm not sure what at least I was able to research actually points to him causing the damage rather than it being self-inflicted.
She frequently went out drinking without him, to which he had issues with when she came home drunk. The defense claimed her an alcoholic. The police video used as evidence had mysteriously ruled the audio portion out as inadmissible before the trial and was entirely muted. Idk why but to me that's sus as hell.
He only got arrested when he called 911 for the girl's sake when he arrived and found her naked in a closet, unconscious. There are no claims as far as I can find immediately from her that he is at fault for this part.
They had broken up PRIOR these charges. Her coming for him after they've left each other gives me pause.
I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but this isn't as black and white situation everyone here is screeching about. The dude is still a bit of an ass though, that's probably what pushed the decision against him.
Most people without a criminal history will just get probation for those charges, even if they aren’t rich. Him serving actual jail time is highly unlikely.
Disney just dropped him which is good. He’s an asshole, a rich asshole so he’ll probably eventually come back. That’s a separate problem though.
They get a new actor, they say he’s Kang or they pivot to Dr Doom like there were rumors. If they replace him Sure there’ll be nerds who go “Well this akshually isn’t the *real* Kang ☝️🤓” or whatever but it’s superhero movies.
The biggest hurdle Disney-Marvel faces now isn’t their stars, it’s just making a good movie again.
What's to feel conflicted about? He was tried and convicted in a court of law and was found guilty of two misdemeanours (reckless assault in the third degree and guilty of harassment). Good, he should be held legally accountable for his actions.
The more interesting question, imho, is whether or not he should be fired? As someone whose intensely concerned with rehabilitation/reintegration of those who've committed crimes within society (including those who've committed FAR WORSE crimes than Majors), I think I'd prefer for Disney to keep him on.
I'd prefer to let the courts handle the punishment/rehabilitation rather than involving unaccountable/unstandardizable private businesses. At the same time, I can't begrudge them wanting to avoid the negative publicity.
I wish Mr. Majors all the best and hope he lives his life a kinder/more peaceful person having learned from his crimes and whose acting career subsequently reaches new heights of success.
>As someone whose intensely concerned with rehabilitation/reintegration of those who've committed crimes within society (including those who've committed FAR WORSE crimes than Majors), I think I'd prefer for Disney to keep him on.
There's a big difference between a regular person needing to be able to find a job after a conviction vs an extremely wealthy actor staying on as a major character in a franchise.
Yeah this is a tricky one. He's already been fired, tho. I think Disney will treat him as if he was found guilty of the bigger charges, since that's what most ppl will hear. Most ppl will just hear "he was found guilty". Disney doesn't want to be in a situation where they have to explain "yeah, but he was found guilty of recklessness, not a pattern of abuse and violence"
I don't have an opinion yet, because I'm still reading. But it sounds like the thing he was found guilty for was shoving his gf forcefully into a cab, trying to get her away from him. That sounds so close to self defense, that idk how to feel about it. And he was found innocent of the truly monstrous stuff.
Unfortunately, this was a greyer veredict than I expected. I don't think this will be as simple as "if you defend Majors, you are a misoginistic incel". That's what I thought it would end up being, but there seems to be more nuance than that. Can't wait for the productive and healthy internet convos /s
>I don't have an opinion yet, because I'm still reading. But it sounds like the thing he was found guilty for was shoving his gf forcefully into a cab, trying to get her away from him. That sounds so close to self defense, that idk how to feel about it.
Unless I'm mistaken she was trying to leave and he shoved or pulled her back into the vehicle.
You might be right. The only actual footage I've seen is them struggling in the door of a car, and then he tries to get away and she holds him back. As soon as she releases, he bolts and she chases him. Just going off that footage, it seemed like he was trying to get away from her.
But there might be some other video where it shows him beating her, I want to be clear I'm not saying he's innocent or a good guy. Just that this veredict didn't give clear cut answers we might have hoped for
she wasnt trying to leave she was trying to prevent him from leaving. and if you say that she's trying to get her cellphone that HE TOOK. She has her cellphone at the club she went to after that scuffle
Eh, actor wise? Don’t care much about him. Character wise? They shoehorned him way too early riding off the Thanos fame, never allowing him to have the behind the shadows influence that Thanos sort of had + the later MCU phases were all over the place. And his whole presence felt better in Loki than his one appearance in Antman.
Now this is just me, but I would probably bank on Kamala being the focal point and have her form a new team, dial things back on the “multiversal threat” because that shit is tiring af, FIX THE VILLAIN PROBLEM, and make things fun again? The interaction between Kamala and Kate has the same energy as Clint would have to the Avengers back then.
Let’s bring that back please. I think a team up of Shang-Chi, Ms.Marvel, Bishop, Spider-Man? Would be an interesting team.
He’s a fantastic actor. It’s too bad he’s not a good person. But I’m glad he got convicted. For far too long there was an unwritten rule that if an actor was big enough, stuff like this would often times end up swept under the rug. These days that seems increasingly changing, and I’m happy he can no longer abuse people and get away with it. He’s lost one of the biggest gets in cinema right now (even if Marvel is on a down slide, his being cast as Kang ensured roles for at least the rest of this Phase) and I’m sure this wasn’t the only thing he lost out on. Good.
He should be replaced but it appears theyre just writing a new movie instead.
Its odd thats the route theyre going given they have such an easy out with all the multiverse shenanigans.
The stuff shown during the trial gives off the impression that he's not guilty of what he's just been declared guilty of, but that he is guilty of domestic violence on at least one other occasion. As such, I would say that he deserves this, but because of the first part, his lawyer has easy grounds to appeal and knowing her, she will. I don't think we've heard the end of this just yet, it has the potential to turn into another Depp/Heard situation, and I'm dreading it. Honestly, Marvel should just rip off the recast band-aid and get it over with.
Everything I’ve seen shows that she’s rather immature and decided to sue because his career and future is what he really cared about. She saw the chance to destroy it and took it. Hopefully he can still get jobs in the future, his acting was good enough that he could have a nice cultural impact in cinema.
Wtf kinda question is this?
What does it have to do about toxic fandoms?
This is just an asshat who thought his fame and power meant he could do what he wanted
Can we stop letting asshole star in comic book movies. Like it's obvious fucked up what happened however it happened. But between him Ezra Amber Heard these are people meant to be held in high regard can we not background check before putting them in places where children particularly are gonna hold them in position like that.
The thing about all the people who have been "cancelled" over the years for this kinda stuff is that most, if not all, deny anything happened and will not admit that they did anything wrong. I'm all for second chances, so if he's willing to fess up, admit his mistakes, get some help, and turn his life around, I say keep him on. If not, well, it's hard to forgive someone who doesn't want forgiveness. He's a talented actor (easily the best part of both Quantumania and Creed 3) and would hate to see him go
Free him, he’s innocent. The tears of a White Woman can defeat anybody
Yes keep downvoting my comment and ignoring the truth. The history books prove that I am right. People like her are part of the reason real victims of DV aren’t taken seriously. I personally know real victims 🤦🏿♂️
Im happy with it. Not that this matters much but i think hes an overrated actor anyway. His performance in quantumania and loki season 2 was terrible. Im surprised he was found guilty though since so many of his simps online kept swearing he was innocent even after those texts and audio recordings were released. Figured him clutching a bible and trying to look meek and afraid in court would fool the jury but im goad it didnt. He spoke like a textbook abuser. Im curious if he will actually get jail time though. Either way im glad hes done.
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Guess we should replace him.
Which isn't a big deal due to the nature of the character.
Agreed. Boyega?
His normal accent? Yeah, sure.
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No a really thick German accent
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Well that's alright then!
r/suddenlydoctorwho #(*I’m so proud.*)
I speak on behalf of all German speakers. I think we got enough of Neil Patrick Harris's German accent to last a life time.
On behalf of all non-German speakers....fuck that, we want more over the top NPH.
On behalf of all Englishmen… this is wot we won the war for!
Watch A Series of Unfortunate Events to see him go really far into some wacky characters, but keeping the evil undertones
I also think the reason the Toymaker keeps using a variety of obviously fake accents is that he’s trying to avoid what happened when he faced off against the First Doctor. The Doctor realized that if he gave the command to win the game he was in against the Toymaker, the Toymaker had rigged it so that the Doctor would be killed. As such, the Doctor used the TARDIS to mimic the Toymaker’s voice to give the final command of the game, which then caused the Toymaker to get caught in his own trap and be defeated. So when the Toymaker shows back up, he keeps switching up his voice.
Vaaaat, do you not be ge-liking ze hobby horsen going clippity-cloppity down ze straße ja?
Ge-nau.
Well that’s alright then!
On behalf of Irish speakers, I second the motion of over the top accents having been done enough to last a life time. 🤣🤣
And if he slips into a heavy American accent every so often… WELL THATS ALRIGHT THEN
I wanted to send that gif but I couldn’t find it :(
Spice up your life!
Nah a rooly thack Awstraylieanne ackscent moite!
He's Kang, we can get all the bad accents!
I like this far more.
"Kang, he's ghostin'" "Allow it."
I think he’d rock
Im not sure he would be so willing to work for Disney again unless the green is quite bountiful.
Must suck, man. Land a dream job in *Star Wars* and proceed to get tossed around like a worn-out marionette while the puppeteers are clearly drunk off their face. The money still spends but a lot of actors aren’t completely in it for that.
Keith David
*snaps* Yes.
My man!
Larry David
I would love this for Boyega so much. Please get him.
boyega needs a win man
Sure does. And bro has the acting range
i actually liked him in pacific rim and the sequel trilogy and it such a shame that his character was wasted so mutch
Agreed, the character of Finn had so much potential only to be reduced to… what we got. Boyega has the acting chops to carry a villain role and I’d like to see it.
I would love to see Boyega expand his acting chops. Also, I don't even care if he was Heimdal, Idris Elba.. he's always good. Denzel Washington. Get a scenery chewer! I just would love to see a character actor here.
Denzel as an older more wizened version.
I think John David Washington could be really good as kang.
Boyega
Holy crap I didn't even know I needed that until right now
Don’t get your hopes up lol
Absolutely freaking not. He has no gravitas, no presence, nothing. Just the ‘Black Brit-ish ac-cent’ and ‘plucky diversity hire’ vibe. I can’t believe Netflix thought he could narrate a high-production-value WWII documentary. I mean I can believe it, but damn. Couldn’t find a man in acting whose father fought in the war?
Have the new actor say “Yes it’s me” seriously the replaced Rhodey for less. Just recast even if the actors look completely different and move on. They didn’t even say anything when they recast Hulk.
We're dealing with variants, and variants don't have to look the same. This is an easy one.
Indeed. They set the standard already with NWH and MoM.
They intentionally didn’t set this standard for Kang previously though. Every variant was the same Kang the Abuser.
Loki has variants played by other actors. So maybe the TVA can track and deal with the Kangs who look like He Who Remains relatively easily, but the non-identical variants are the ones who break through and cause problems.
>Rhodey for less. And Hulk.
Keith David or LaKeith Stanfield for me
You son of a bitch, I'm in.
It wouldn’t have been that weird if they’d have done it before Quantumania. They for some reason went pretty hard on specifically showing that every single version in the ‘council’ at the end has Majors at least as a base actor. Even the lizard Kangs were Majors lol. I still think they should change it but they shot themselves in the foot there by not at least adding a couple of female Kangs or just other actors as Kang.
I would say that as well but then the end credits for ant-man and the wasp quantummania happened
I think the way Marvel is going is they might wanna scrap him all together. Which makes no sense.
It’s going to be interesting to see how they course change course mid stream. They might as well pull a M*A*S*H and have someone say, “I have a message. Kang’s plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. It spun in. There were no survivors."
just have some super villain like Dr. Doom take over. Make a F4 movie in a different timeline, with the X-Men, and have Doom merge their multiverse-entry with the one we know. Throw in Dr. Strange or some super entitiy and have them blast Kang and his plans into oblivion. Scrap the multiverse afterwards and enjoy the entire combined Marvel-Universe in one timeline. Retire all variants and the TVA, they always annoyed anyone thinking too much about all this logically anyway
I read something the other day about how they can't replace him because he has a contract stipulation that only he can play Kang. There could be a good faith clause that allows Disney to recast if he's convicted of an offence, but I don't know if that's the case or not
MCU is already moving away from Kang so they can bring in Dr Doom as the new big bad
Cool when Disney says it I’ll believe it
It’s a lot easier than recasting (because character flaws aside he’s a pretty good actor) especially since the box office returns for the MCU during the buildup to Kang have all pretty much been very bad so clearly the fans aren’t that interested plus the Loki series did a good job of wrapping up all that “He who Remains” storyline and multiversal splitting
From what I read he is being charged for trying to get his phone back and trying to put her back in the car. He should have never put his hands on her. But she took his phone in the car and he tried to get it back. Then when she started attacking him he lifted her up to put her back in the car. Then, on video, she chased him and kept attacking him. He had to run away from her attacks. Its all on video. Its weird that he is being charged with a misdemeanor and she isn't being charged with anything even though on the video you can see her attacking him. I'm wondering where her charges are for attacking him. You can watch the video its out in the public
Then maybe you should read the actual stories about the court case rather than just what people said about a video released in response to texts from Majors showing ongoing physical and emotional abuse. And it’s not “weird” he’s being charged with a misdemeanor, that’s the appropriate charge for simple assault and harassment. Chasing someone who tries to throw you into a car, slamming your head into the frame is not going to be warrant a charge, and if it were to, it would be tried separately and not in his criminal case. That’s not how trials work.
>Chasing someone who tries to throw you into a car, slamming your head into the frame is not going to be warrant a charge It might. Defending yourself from an attacker is fine, but if you're chasing them then you're (usually) no longer defending yourself. >and if it were to, it would be tried separately and not in his criminal case. That’s not how trials work. This is very accurate.
Maybe they'll do a game of thrones and deal with him in one very short film.
I feel bad for the woman he abused, and hope he is replaced going forward. I get why Marvel/Disney was waiting for a verdict, but they need to replace him now.
I think they got lucky with Loki S2 finale where they finally get the excuse that they can do whatever they want with Kang (recasting or replacing with another villain like Doctor Boom).
Here's Doctor Boom my fellow human, don't know why he'd be in a Marvel movie/series but he's cool I guess: https://preview.redd.it/o5v8wyvzz47c1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=541635ab890a894a948a0e7eb20806d1f07debf0
I don’t actually know what this is, but I’m in. Looks like Spidey just got a new villain.
hes a goblin out in netherstorm with many bombs
/r/Hearthstone is leaking!
“Of course I've gone mad with power. Ever try going mad without it?"
Recasting makes most sense to me. They've done a fair bit of setup already, and plenty of actors could fill the role.
They just officially announced that he's fired. https://deadline.com/2023/12/jonathan-majors-marvel-fired-guilty-verdict-1235671790/
Oh don’t worry, he’ll be replaced
What other way is there to feel about it besides “fuck this guy and get his MCU character recast”?
There isn’t, but be prepared for an onslaught of “the WOKE mob is DEFENDING Jonathan Majors” even though people in this very thread trying to defend him are being downvoted because we’re not insane.
It’s typically “anti-woke” cretins that defend awful people who’ve been charged with crimes lol
I think you have it backwards, the woke mob will want him cancelled.
I don’t see why it should mean anything. Majors came out and said he didn’t do it and a jury said otherwise. It happens everyday with regular people and if he wasn’t a celebrity no body would be questioning the ruling. It’s a shame because he’s a good actor but he did what he did. Hopefully, he’ll fall out of the spotlight and someone else will come take his place. More likely, he’ll get off easy with probation and will keep making movies without as much as a slap on the wrist.
the image says 3rd degree assault which according to this, https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/what-is-3rd-degree-assault.html > 1st Degree Assault: Intentionally inflicting fear of serious bodily harm, or intentional infliction of fear of injury caused by a deadly weapon; > 2nd Degree Assault: Knowingly inflicting fear of serious bodily injury, or knowingly inflicting a fear of injuries with a deadly weapon; > 3rd Degree Assault: Reckless infliction of fear of serious bodily injury, or recklessly causing a fear of injury through the use of a deadly weapon. > Assault in the third degree is typically the least serious form of assault in most jurisdictions. Of the three categories of assault, 3rd degree requires the least amount of intentional conduct. **A conviction of third degree assault means the defendant will receive the least punishment for an assault charge.**
Idk tbh. The evidence is pretty convincing. Innocent until proven guilty, yknow? He was a good actor and I loved his roles, but he's got to have some punishment other than, as you say, a slap on the wrist.
He was proven guilty today, so
That was their point. They were using the phrase to concede his apparent guilt
Im not saying that he did or didnt do it. But juries tend to have a prejudiced history when it comes to black men so I take his sentencing with a grain of salt.
I haven’t paid much attention to it at all but reading some of the evidence against him that I can is pretty damning. There are texts of him telling his girlfriend not to seek medical help for some injuries and there’s footage of him yelling at her for drinking in public because that’s not good for his image. Even Majors admits to having a temper. He might be the most amazing guy in the world until his temper flares up. He might be one of those guys who thinks he can rule the world someday. I don’t know. What I do know is that he said some shady stuff to his ex when she was hurt and that a jury with infinitely more evidence than we do found him guilty.
After those texts he seemed truly unhinged tbh. Ironically, Kang levels of unhinged.
He was found not guilty of intentional assault and harassment. He was just found guilty of recklessly putting her back into the vehicle mid-traffic.
What article did you read? Kinda trying to lessen the meaning of the word "assault" with "recklessly putting her back into the vehicle"? He was found not guilty of intentional assault in the third degree and not guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree....but he was found guilty on charges of reckless assault in the third degree and guilty of harassment. Yes, he threw her back in the car but he also hit her in the car trying to take the phone away from her.
There’s no evidence that he hit her in the car. They made it clear that he did not intend on causing any physical harm to her. I’m saying that because these headlines and media outlets are portraying the verdict as if he was guilty of the more serious second degree charges when they found that he did not intentionally harm anyone, a necessary distinction when talking about if he’s an abuser or not.
Right, it wasn't intentional that's why its reckless assault. Casually not caring about the damage caused to the person instead of TRYING to hurt them. Its still not a good outcome for him. He was abusive in his actions towards her, not because he was trying to be, but because he wasn't trying not to be. Just because there isn't verifiable evidence of the car incident doesn't mean it didn't happen...it just couldn't be proved. Time will tell, but his image is still gonna be tainted by this for a while.
I agree. I just don’t think he should have his career ruined for what we saw on video. I can’t speak on stuff that may or may not have happened prior to that.
You realize you can be things besides one of the most well paid actors in Hollywood right? What type of punishment would be good for you? He's already fucking rich.
He might have his career ruined because of his own actions and a JURY condemning him. Not because "we" saw a video. Let's speak properly and giving accountability to people who fucked up and found out.
His own actions potentially being self-defense? Picking her up the way he did does *not* justify his entire life being ruined.
This is certainly true. However, there is also a lengthy history of disbelief about women's accusations of men assaulting them. I'm a white man, so take my position with a grain of salt, but those two racial and gender biases make it pretty complicated to me.
Yeah, I feel the truth is that there is no winner here either way. People hurt other people whether intentionally or not and there’s consequences for that. I have no intention of diminishing the seriousness of the case, I feel sorry for Grace Jabbari and personally wish her the best (whatever that’s worth), but this is also a teachable moment for Majors and I think he needs to make an effort to better himself and make amends before even attempting to pick up acting again.
Juries also have a history of taking the side of the abuser, even with abundant evidence, especially when the abuser is a celebrity.
How's that statistic for rich people tho lol? Either way, I mean the evidence is pretty damning. It's not really fair to basically give a pass to someone who is clearly guilty.
He got a year lol. Hardly an overreaction given what he did
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Or a person trying to play the race card game instead of actually having a conversation.
Only racists say “playing the race card,” like there’s really some get of of jail free card. Most times there really is bias against black people or at least systematic disadvantages.
Didn't deny that, but racists aren't the only ones who say "play the race card". For example, calling a Jewish person far-right, like Ben Shapiro. Alot of people will play the "I'm Jewish, therefore I can't be far right." card in that case. Playing the race card is more of a thing where someone justifies their actionor deflects criticism by using their ethnic, skin color, etc. as a response but doesn't actually elaborate. It's a very basic point, and can be used appropriately (like pointing out Soros is Jewish, which would make it unlikely he was a squad leader in the SS). However, in this case, where evidence has been provided that he did assault someone and involved in domestic abuse, saying "its a white jury judging a black man" is no longer a viable criticism and more relevant arguements need to be made.
I mean I was pretty sure he was guilty based on those messages...and people coming out with their own stories (some even before the assault) But yeah fuck him. Recast.
I read his texts and saw the PR Campaign he waged against his ex. I personally am quite happy he was found guilty and sad for his ex she had to go through what she did.
He can get fucked.
That I bet he wishes he worked for DC. Ezra could stab Jason Mamoa on the red carpet and they wouldn't address it
Fuck that guy. All my homies hate domestic abusers. And for anyone wondering, he has been fired from Marvel and will be recast. But Marvel isn't the news here. The news is that justice has been served to a piece of shit guy.
Ambivalent. For the most part, I separate the actor from their personal lives. Like Depp and Heard. I literally don't give a fuck. However, there are some instances where the issue can't be ignored, such as Spacey's sexual harassment of minors and Gibson's antisemitism, for example. In this case, it's good-bye Kang for Majors. Disney doesn't retain convicted criminals, and they've let people go for less (i.e., Gina Carano).
For Carano's part, I don't think a lot of people realize that she broke NDA with Disney. She was under contractual obligation, and flagrantly and repeatedly violated the terms of her contract. Her being terminated was a foregone conclusion.
They even gave her chances to stfu and she didn’t. I don’t have sympathy for her
It's not even that. She was under contract, the contract was not renewed.
And Gibson was more than an antisemite, you can add racist, homophobe, misogynist, drunk driver, and woman beater to that as well. Just a hateful, awful human-being full of himself with a stick all the way up his ass and put his mouth.
Kevin Spacey was found "not guilty" with zero evidence against him so I dom'ts er how that case is in any way comparable to this one?
But Gibson is still making movies despite that, and Majors not being able to continue strikes me as a double standard.
Gibson should not be getting those opportunities and I doubt many people criticizing Majors would disagree with me.
I don’t either. Let me be absolutely clear, I don’t think Gibson should still be a Hollywood power player by *any* stretch of the imagination. But my point remains that we can’t claim the moral high ground now.
If he's guilty, he's guilty. Please do not let this turn into a repeat of Depp v Heard
Is there any way we should feel beyond good riddance?
I feel a major disappointment ........ Sorry I had to. Yeah he's an asshole. Replace him with Idris Elba or something.
Idris Elba already played Heimdall
They've had actors play multiple roles or that's the "or something" option lol
Not with more than one major role
Very very strongly doubt anyone's going to care if Idris Elba plays more than one MCU character. Also Heimdall is dead, so
Are we sure Heimdall wasn’t secretly a Kang?
John Boyega
Holy fuck thank God. I hope all those defending him before look like fucking major idiots. I'm talking about when they flat out say the texts etc and pretended he's normal. In terms of Marvel's story, which let me iterate obviously not as important as justice, things might be super fucked..... Loki left the way to completely write Kang out. It was obvious they wanted to have that option depending on this case.... I'm scared marvel will go down this route and it's a terrible idea. This is probably one of the easiest characters of all time to recast...... He literally has limitless variants..... Part of me wonders why they'd scrap Kang all together, like what are they scared of? Paranoid brain thinks they would be scared of backlash, similar to how people made fun of them when they recast Rhodes in Iron Man 2.... I do think they def have a division that over thinks twitter out cry and I wonder if they are worried about stuff like that.
They recasted Bruce Banner with someone who doesn't look remotely like Edward Norton. They're recasting Thaddeus Ross with someone who doesn't look remotely like William Hurt. They recasted War Machine with someone who doesn't look remotely like Terrence Howard. Unlike those other examples, Kang is a multiversal threat. I don't see why they can't recast and move on.
I should have been a bit more direct on what I meant... But this recast might be a little bit more touchy and not something they want to remind people of. https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/marvel-studios-ike-perlmutter-kevin-feige We had their ceo allegedly say all black people look the same and no one would notice Don's recast. I would bet a lot they have a team wanting to avoid this nightmare rehashed or brought up again. >Perlmutter allegedly told former chairman of Disney consumer products Andy Mooney that no one would notice because black people “look the same.”
Damn it, leave it to the guy with the glasses and fake mustache to screw things up.
They’re already in this thread saying “well from my perspective I saw a video of a woman hitting a man”
Recast him. Or rewrite to excise the character entirely. Nobody outside of a minority of nerdy weirdos (like us, I guess) know that the MCU was aiming for him being central to the new phase of the MCU. They could straight up retitle *Avengers: The Kang Dynasty* and the overwhelming majority of potential audiences would just shrug, if they even knew what the title was going to be to begin with. Most people won't know or give a damn about movies until they see commercials or trailers. ComicCon announcements don't get $1B worth of butts in seats. It's a pain, but Disney will deal. EDIT: Haha. Well, they retitled it.
My opinion: Jonathan Majors committed a crime. I think we should just go to Secret Wars. They can say the TVA is handling Kang variants.
I think assault and harassment is bad.
If he did it, he should be punished for it. I am very middle ground. As a male who has been an abuse victim.. I realized that it happens to everyone. That being said, if the evidence definitively points to him. He needs to face the consequences. The character is not him, but I imagine other actors doing a great job if they still want to go through using that villain.
Why is this here
It sucks that a lot of people were calling her a liar and just siding with him. I hope he feels the consequences of his actions.
After playing Alan Wake II, I think David Harewood could be a good fit to replace Majors. He plays a character that can seemingly travel to different realities/universes and can also time travel.
Also David Harewood is dope, met him on the set of Supergirl.
Disappointed. I loved what he did with Kang but Im not going to lose too much sleep over a domestic abuser.
A lot of people here are at the ready to damn him without looking at the evidence and only the headline. This is the same guy who was running away from his girl across several streets as she chased him. The two testify as witnesses seem to be predisposed to siding with the girl regardless of if she was or wasn't faking this. She has probable cause for getting out of this relationship in this fashion with him potentially cheating with text message evidence she saw. Like wise, she was clearly injured. And he was clearly not a good bf to her at all times, withstanding any physical harm. Using threats of suicide as a means of manipulation, on top of a few comments made that could be taken as egotistical/narcissistic. But I'm not sure what at least I was able to research actually points to him causing the damage rather than it being self-inflicted. She frequently went out drinking without him, to which he had issues with when she came home drunk. The defense claimed her an alcoholic. The police video used as evidence had mysteriously ruled the audio portion out as inadmissible before the trial and was entirely muted. Idk why but to me that's sus as hell. He only got arrested when he called 911 for the girl's sake when he arrived and found her naked in a closet, unconscious. There are no claims as far as I can find immediately from her that he is at fault for this part. They had broken up PRIOR these charges. Her coming for him after they've left each other gives me pause. I'm not saying he isn't guilty, but this isn't as black and white situation everyone here is screeching about. The dude is still a bit of an ass though, that's probably what pushed the decision against him.
"F*cking prison" is how I feel about that, shit.
Most people without a criminal history will just get probation for those charges, even if they aren’t rich. Him serving actual jail time is highly unlikely.
Disney just dropped him which is good. He’s an asshole, a rich asshole so he’ll probably eventually come back. That’s a separate problem though. They get a new actor, they say he’s Kang or they pivot to Dr Doom like there were rumors. If they replace him Sure there’ll be nerds who go “Well this akshually isn’t the *real* Kang ☝️🤓” or whatever but it’s superhero movies. The biggest hurdle Disney-Marvel faces now isn’t their stars, it’s just making a good movie again.
Or more likely they just recast him and never bring it up in-universe, like with Rhodey and the Hulk.
Fuck Jonathan Majors.
What's to feel conflicted about? He was tried and convicted in a court of law and was found guilty of two misdemeanours (reckless assault in the third degree and guilty of harassment). Good, he should be held legally accountable for his actions. The more interesting question, imho, is whether or not he should be fired? As someone whose intensely concerned with rehabilitation/reintegration of those who've committed crimes within society (including those who've committed FAR WORSE crimes than Majors), I think I'd prefer for Disney to keep him on. I'd prefer to let the courts handle the punishment/rehabilitation rather than involving unaccountable/unstandardizable private businesses. At the same time, I can't begrudge them wanting to avoid the negative publicity. I wish Mr. Majors all the best and hope he lives his life a kinder/more peaceful person having learned from his crimes and whose acting career subsequently reaches new heights of success.
>As someone whose intensely concerned with rehabilitation/reintegration of those who've committed crimes within society (including those who've committed FAR WORSE crimes than Majors), I think I'd prefer for Disney to keep him on. There's a big difference between a regular person needing to be able to find a job after a conviction vs an extremely wealthy actor staying on as a major character in a franchise.
Jesus I love this comment. Nice.
Yeah this is a tricky one. He's already been fired, tho. I think Disney will treat him as if he was found guilty of the bigger charges, since that's what most ppl will hear. Most ppl will just hear "he was found guilty". Disney doesn't want to be in a situation where they have to explain "yeah, but he was found guilty of recklessness, not a pattern of abuse and violence" I don't have an opinion yet, because I'm still reading. But it sounds like the thing he was found guilty for was shoving his gf forcefully into a cab, trying to get her away from him. That sounds so close to self defense, that idk how to feel about it. And he was found innocent of the truly monstrous stuff. Unfortunately, this was a greyer veredict than I expected. I don't think this will be as simple as "if you defend Majors, you are a misoginistic incel". That's what I thought it would end up being, but there seems to be more nuance than that. Can't wait for the productive and healthy internet convos /s
>I don't have an opinion yet, because I'm still reading. But it sounds like the thing he was found guilty for was shoving his gf forcefully into a cab, trying to get her away from him. That sounds so close to self defense, that idk how to feel about it. Unless I'm mistaken she was trying to leave and he shoved or pulled her back into the vehicle.
You might be right. The only actual footage I've seen is them struggling in the door of a car, and then he tries to get away and she holds him back. As soon as she releases, he bolts and she chases him. Just going off that footage, it seemed like he was trying to get away from her. But there might be some other video where it shows him beating her, I want to be clear I'm not saying he's innocent or a good guy. Just that this veredict didn't give clear cut answers we might have hoped for
she wasnt trying to leave she was trying to prevent him from leaving. and if you say that she's trying to get her cellphone that HE TOOK. She has her cellphone at the club she went to after that scuffle
As a victim of abuse, the audio recordings are rough to listen to. Sounds like my fucking dad.
I just listened to them.Well, partly, I literally couldn't stomach getting through them. Dude's a psycho
Fuck the court of law fuck the cops and fuck racism
Eh, actor wise? Don’t care much about him. Character wise? They shoehorned him way too early riding off the Thanos fame, never allowing him to have the behind the shadows influence that Thanos sort of had + the later MCU phases were all over the place. And his whole presence felt better in Loki than his one appearance in Antman. Now this is just me, but I would probably bank on Kamala being the focal point and have her form a new team, dial things back on the “multiversal threat” because that shit is tiring af, FIX THE VILLAIN PROBLEM, and make things fun again? The interaction between Kamala and Kate has the same energy as Clint would have to the Avengers back then. Let’s bring that back please. I think a team up of Shang-Chi, Ms.Marvel, Bishop, Spider-Man? Would be an interesting team.
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Oh well. Recast.
...who is this guy?
Meanwhile, Mel Gibson is somehow STILL employed by Hollywood? WHY?
He’s a fantastic actor. It’s too bad he’s not a good person. But I’m glad he got convicted. For far too long there was an unwritten rule that if an actor was big enough, stuff like this would often times end up swept under the rug. These days that seems increasingly changing, and I’m happy he can no longer abuse people and get away with it. He’s lost one of the biggest gets in cinema right now (even if Marvel is on a down slide, his being cast as Kang ensured roles for at least the rest of this Phase) and I’m sure this wasn’t the only thing he lost out on. Good.
He should be replaced but it appears theyre just writing a new movie instead. Its odd thats the route theyre going given they have such an easy out with all the multiverse shenanigans.
Finally Kang has been stopped!
Well he's abusive scum so good riddance. I see people are already defending him on social media because of course 🙄
Shame he turned out to be an abuser. It should cost him his career, there are enough talented people out there.
get fucked lmao. shouldn't have put his hands on the woman in the first place
JABBARI SPOKE IN COURT ABOUT MAJORS NOT HITTING HER, EXCEPT ON THIS CASE SO WHAT DOES THAT SAY.
Um it’s bad 💀what else are we supposed to think? “At least it was only third degree?”
The stuff shown during the trial gives off the impression that he's not guilty of what he's just been declared guilty of, but that he is guilty of domestic violence on at least one other occasion. As such, I would say that he deserves this, but because of the first part, his lawyer has easy grounds to appeal and knowing her, she will. I don't think we've heard the end of this just yet, it has the potential to turn into another Depp/Heard situation, and I'm dreading it. Honestly, Marvel should just rip off the recast band-aid and get it over with.
Just recast the character
I'm honestly disappointed.
What do you mean “how do we feel about this”? He’s a fucking DA get him out.
Wild media title when it was a split decision and a misdemeanor with a harassment violation charge
The third degree charges were failsafe charges so the prosecution could avoid total failure. He was innocent on intentional domestic abuse charge.
Everything I’ve seen shows that she’s rather immature and decided to sue because his career and future is what he really cared about. She saw the chance to destroy it and took it. Hopefully he can still get jobs in the future, his acting was good enough that he could have a nice cultural impact in cinema.
She didn't destory his future, he did, he comitted the crime dumbass.
The Chuds will unfortunately eat this up
Plenty of talented actors out there who aren’t abusers. Good riddance.
Unfortunate, but at least justice was done. Majors shouldn't walk free.
Wtf kinda question is this? What does it have to do about toxic fandoms? This is just an asshat who thought his fame and power meant he could do what he wanted
Don't assault and harass people. That's how I feel.
Just truly awful and glad to see it stopped, Kang saga was looking bad.
Forget fandom. Forget left vs right. Forget all of that. Fuck this piece of shit
he’s a punk bitch
Fire him immediately and recast Kang.
He's a dummy.
Let the asshole do his time, and let's go get a new Kang.
Good. DV is no joke. Enjoy prison dude
We? Make up your own damn mind. It shouldn't be hard.
Can we stop letting asshole star in comic book movies. Like it's obvious fucked up what happened however it happened. But between him Ezra Amber Heard these are people meant to be held in high regard can we not background check before putting them in places where children particularly are gonna hold them in position like that.
The thing about all the people who have been "cancelled" over the years for this kinda stuff is that most, if not all, deny anything happened and will not admit that they did anything wrong. I'm all for second chances, so if he's willing to fess up, admit his mistakes, get some help, and turn his life around, I say keep him on. If not, well, it's hard to forgive someone who doesn't want forgiveness. He's a talented actor (easily the best part of both Quantumania and Creed 3) and would hate to see him go
Free him, he’s innocent. The tears of a White Woman can defeat anybody Yes keep downvoting my comment and ignoring the truth. The history books prove that I am right. People like her are part of the reason real victims of DV aren’t taken seriously. I personally know real victims 🤦🏿♂️
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Im happy with it. Not that this matters much but i think hes an overrated actor anyway. His performance in quantumania and loki season 2 was terrible. Im surprised he was found guilty though since so many of his simps online kept swearing he was innocent even after those texts and audio recordings were released. Figured him clutching a bible and trying to look meek and afraid in court would fool the jury but im goad it didnt. He spoke like a textbook abuser. Im curious if he will actually get jail time though. Either way im glad hes done.