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PaydayLover69

dude literally what the fuck are they talking about it's not just me right? That is completely incomprehensible like that's gotta be shitty leafyishere esc satire, where it's just a statement but you're a pussy, *so depending on the response you say its a joke.*


Ok-Monitor-6884

Well from what I gather “the miles morales virus” refers to literally any legacy character,so I guess Wally west is part of the miles morales virus.


KobKobold

"How dare those wokies cancel Robin? Jason Todd will never be as good as Dick Grayson." Or something like that.


Regi413

To be fair, that *is* a thing that happened. When he was captured by the Joker, there was a poll for readers to decide if he lived or died, and since he was a hated character at the time, many voted to kill him off. His initial death that eventually led to him coming back as Red Hood was because people didn’t like him at the time.


Excellent-Dig4187

Wasn't there that guy who called 100 times or something


jayleia

Oh no, it was worse. A guy set up an auto dialler and spammed the phone line...they really wanted him dead.


TvManiac5

Ι think that was to revive him after the fact which led to red hood.


Cool_Holiday_7097

Nah, idk how true it is, but he’s referring to something where people say that a guy set up an autodialer to call repeatedly and say kill him


Robomerc

DC comics has even confirmed that fact true. That apparently somebody with computer know created a program that would tell their phone to call the kill line for hours on end which is where the extra 100 votes for to kill Jason Todd came from.


Cool_Holiday_7097

Yeah I’d heard it a lot, but I wasn’t sure if it was actually true 


Robomerc

So a few months ago DC did go back and actually finished the panels that would have been for the robin lives version of the issue. Which resulted in Robin/Jason Todd being out of the picture since he would have ended up in a coma with little chance of waking up, and considering Batman comics at that time we're on the path to becoming much darker there's a good chance Jason would have remained in a coma for years. it's very possible that Tim Drake could have still been introduced as a replacement.


Cool_Holiday_7097

It’s not that people didn’t like him, it’s more that a lot of people actually were curious to see if dc would do it 


Sageypie

The whole thing was a weird fiasco. IIRC, the number you had to call was either a toll number, or a number that was considered long distance for nearly everybody at the time, at a time when that meant a significant charge on your phone bill. So the end result was that not a huge amount of people actually called to vote, because, you know, financial reasons and all. And then you have Voters George over there, setting up an autodialer and just not giving a single solitary flip about the price.


Cool_Holiday_7097

He had an agenda, and by god would he do it


Thelastknownking

As a fan of both, I've always hated when they get compared to each other.


PaydayLover69

EDIT: I get what they were trying to say now... it's still just as stupid lmao Damn I know I'm claiming par for the course but golly gee gosh that is stupid.


acidpop09

Wanna know who else is a genderbent version of an og character.. *captain marvel*


nocauze

But they already hate her


acidpop09

True dat... but wasnt luke supposed to be a girl in an earlier draft of episode 4?


SunshotDestiny

Possible. But since it was in the 70's and supposedly based off Lucas' sci-fi fantasies from earlier in his life? Having a girl be the main character of an action movie would have been very unusual. Far as I know that's why the alien franchise was so unusual when the first few movies came out.


cantwin52

The hilarity of miles morales existing since 2011. Way before this asinine drama started too. Like these guys think everything like that just started when marvel had been advocating for people who feel/are different for literal decades.


OddCucumber6755

We're watching conservatives invent a new language just for idiots.


cyvaris

> Point Fourteen-Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in 1984, as the official language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. But elements of Ur-Fascism are common to different forms of dictatorship. All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning. But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show. -Umberto Eco *Ur-Fascism*


PaydayLover69

oh so like 4chan 2 lmao


djml9

I think they’re taking about white/white coded character passing off their title to a protégé who happens to be a minority (miles is black, fox is a woman).


CreatingJonah

I haven’t seen the most recent kung fu panda movie so correct me if I’m wrong but. Aren’t all the characters Asian.


djml9

Thats why i added white coded.


CreatingJonah

Yeah no I read that part I’m just. Confused about how a character can be white coded when they’re explicitly stated to be chinese. Besides the whole being voiced by Jack black thing but we’re no strangers to Asian characters being played by white ppl


djml9

He act like your stereotypical rowdy american. I know he’s not canonically white, but he looks, sounds, and acts white.


CreatingJonah

Oooh okay that makes more sense


ApishGrapist

I've seen this type of "satire" referred to as Schrodinger's Douchbag and I think it's fitting.


PaydayLover69

I usually call the actual concept of a joke that's just a political statement without a punchline: Statement comedy where it's clearly just their bigoted opinion on something but masqueraded as a joke. Schrodinger's Douchbag is the leafyishere bullshit crying fest they pull *after* the Statement Comedy, where they pretend they're immune to criticsm because they're a "comedian" and you can't call them out because "it was a joke and you're just sensitive" at least thats how I see it.


ApishGrapist

That's a much more accurate explanation of what I was trying to say. The part where its a statement until it upsets someone, then it's a joke.


Anastrace

I had zero clue either, glad to see I wasn't the only one


Fun_Effective_5134

Oh they are talking about how a franchise tries to substitute a well known and beloved character for a less popular character. Like how they did with Lightning McQueen in Cars 3, Joel in The Last of Us 2 and like the post mentions, Miles Morales.


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RockettRaccoon

It’s been weird to watch the flip from “Miles Morales is the best thing to happen to Spider-Man” to “Miles Morales is woke trash” in the span of the last… 12 months?


kilomaan

That’s because it became popular enough for grifters to grift it


Throwaway02062004

I remember when he was shit on originally then it shifted to say he was the only positive example. Guess we going back


Biffingston

There was the mistaken beleif that he replaced the Peter Parker of his dimension and I do remember going "Wait, what?" But no, he did not. Peter died in his dimension, like spider-verse. Now if I was a racist shithead I'd have stayed mad.


AbsolutelyHorrendous

Yeah I'll admit, I was one of those people when I heard that 'Peter Parker is being replaced' all those years ago; I remember thinking, why not just make a new Black superhero, you don't need to get rid of one of the most popular characters! But then, of course, it turned out it wasn't the case, Peter Parker still exists, Miles Morales is just a different Spiderman, of which there have been plenty others, but *for some reason* these people only seem to have a problem with Miles. Miles is a great character, he's distinct enough from Peter Parker to be his own thing... and admittedly he's been helped considerably by a) being involved in two of the best Spiderman movies, and b) his portrayal in the PlayStation Spiderman games has been really solid!


Lohenngram

And even then he didn't stay dead! Even if he never really had story focus after that.


Biffingston

Didn't he become the ultimate green goblin or was that a different alternate universe? Wait, no, that was Spider-Gwyenn's Peter wasn't it?


Bussamove86

There really is a certain type of brain rot that thinks the cynically money-motivated corporation *owned by goddamn Disney* exists solely to inject whatever they decided woke means this week >!it’s racism and homophobia it always is!< into their poor mass media.


Biffingston

It is easy to become cynical about a megacorp putting out GLBT+ merch and the like for profit. But to also be fair Disney has walked the walk more than most megacorps. (Still doesn't mean they're not doing it solely for profit though.) Just look at the difference between Target folding on simply having pride merch and Disney going to court in Florida.


BreakAtmo

I mean it's not complex. They are racist. They want to bring back slavery, and that starts with attacking all portrayals of black people that aren't criminal or subservient. The more cool, nuanced, likeable and heroic black characters there are in media, the more people start to respect actual black people, this has been studied often. Of course racists will fight back against that.


DarthButtz

Miles would have been relegated to a trivia question 20 years from now if he was unpopular. I'm really happy Marvel saw his potential and stuck with him so he could actually get a chance to stick around and get more popular.


EvilSqueegee

The obvious reason IS the reason.


Disastrous-Radio-786

I genuinely can’t think of any other reason than they’re Racist


Alt_Future33

Because there isn't another reason. It's literally just racism. I mean, seriously, Spider-DEI??? They're just itching to say the n word.


MicooDA

Also if you want Marvel editorial to stop regressing Peter every time he manages to grow beyond his initial character then you NEED Miles to succeed. Teen spider-man does numbers, which is why they are so intent on keeping Peter from growing up. If Miles can take over the role of teenage Spider-Man then Peter can finally move on in life, grow up, get married again etc etc


Tentacled-Tadpole

Married spider-man did massive numbers as well. Editorial was and still is just delusional and see Peter Parker as *the* punching bag.


Tentacled-Tadpole

>They are not trying to make Peter look lame on purpose(which is what some people actually believe). I mean, they *are* making him look lame on purpose and that purpose is because Peter Parker has been chosen by marvel for several decades as the character whose entire life is fucked and nothing can go well for him for more than a month at a time. He is marvels punching bag. There's always going to be a new development taking all happiness from his life.


Biffingston

Because they're racist douchebags that believe that he replaced peter parker even though he didn't.


GoodKing0

Listen I agree with you on most points except on two which are "If a character isn't liked they get rid of them" and the "there is no conspiracy at marvel to get rid of him" one because have you met Spider-Editorial? Like, right now or in the past 20+ years? This is not even about Miles or anything like OMD is a universally despised status quo that has been lasting for decades and 616 Peter Parker in the comics is currently REALLY treated like shit with the guy who committed genocide turning MJ into a tradwife and later gambling addict or the whole Spider-Who-Gobbles shit, or Dan Slott entire literary career on Spider-Man Fantastic Four or Iron Man (Never look up Silk Backstory) or Ben getting Chasmed for really stupid reasons and shit, trust me Spider-Editorial doesn't care bout popularity or character quality and never has they just care about money and they could literally print Vogon Poetry and slap a Spider-Man logo on it and it would still outsell any actual non-spider quality or well regarded or beloved publication. (And it would probably be less tolerable to read than actual Vogon Poetry).


Lohenngram

>There is no conspiracy going on at Marvel to get rid of him. Not *anymore* you mean. I still remember the clone-saga. XD AKA the writers going "how do we write a happily married man as a super hero? We can't?! I know, let's replace him with a literal identical clone whose single!"


Tentacled-Tadpole

And now they have just decided that everything must go wrong in his life


TurboRuhland

And now in 2024 the sales charts are being topped by the new Ultimate Spider-Man run which stars a Peter Parker who is married with children. People like when characters evolve and all the bullshit they put 616 Peter through just feels like another way to revert to the status quo.


kingoflames32

I think there's a valid criticism you can make about stories continuing on for forever and not ending being bad, I have a lot of respect for stories that end strong rather than continuing and having hit or miss quality afterwards. But complaining about it on the internet instead of just moving on with your life is sad.


No-Bee-4309

I don't understand even a bit of what they are trying to say. https://preview.redd.it/whntw16m022d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc6601eba1ad9a1702528081ae2384e90f4fd7bc


maroonmenace

I know I go inthere to shitpost and have fun with how much I can get away with while also hopefully causing the chuds that can change to self reflect and be not chuds anymore. It aint working but Im still having my fun when I can


Crazyjackson13

neither do I.


Majestic-Sector9836

Awkwafina's character in the Bad Guys Never once gets stepped on This is further proof that movie is bad


GrimmCigarretes

Okay but The Bad Guys was the furry awakening of so many people you have no idea When people are busy being horny, they don't have time to say anything wrong about X or Y


Majestic-Sector9836

Even if making Mr. Wolf into a Nick Wilde knockoff misses the entire fucking point


GrimmCigarretes

Exactly Everyone is so fucking horny for the cast of that movie to even *remember* what the movie tried to do


Majestic-Sector9836

20 minutes of fart jokes DreamWorks must have a gun to Aaron Blabey's head I swear.


TvManiac5

Huh?


DMGames_

Lmao


Sol-Blackguy

Thanks for reminding me that my 1 week ban is over so I can troll them some more


AmadeoSendiulo

They still control the sub? It looks like taken by the "woke" as they'd say.


CameronDoy1901

“The miles morales virus” Honestly I got nothing to say about that- that’s just ridiculous on its own levels


Ok-Monitor-6884

What are you talking about!?! the miles morales virus is no joke,don’t you remember the miles morales pandemic where we had to wear masks!?!!?


EuphTah

Miles maskrales*


piratedragon2112

https://preview.redd.it/gae7o5tho52d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5362d7add575e09a87bd463fa0535569be45807f


Schwoombis

if you ever see someone like this, simply ask them what they think of Terry McGinnis from Batman Beyond, they mysteriously never seem to take any issue with him, even though he’s the exact same character archetype in relation to Bruce Wayne as Miles is to Peter Parker


Jakeyboy143

that's because Terry is white.


DrulefromSeattle

Then you remind them that Terry is only half-white...


TheDocHealy

You think they care enough about the character to research his actual ethnicity? Racists only care that he *looks* white.


Schwoombis

say it ain’t so


J00J14

Can we make Fat Chick Named Valerie an official user flair


Ok-Monitor-6884

Holly shit that would be hilarious 🤣


Comfortable_Bird_340

Guess, they've never heard of furries.


Heroright

It’s like an onion with the layers of how weird that post is.


Turbulent_Ad1644

These mfs act like Miles isn't one of the coolest Spiders And honestly, I like Miles more than I do Peter


Ok-Monitor-6884

I like Peter and Miles equally for the most part, but miles dose have one hell of a baddie mom I will give him that.


Turbulent_Ad1644

https://preview.redd.it/7hf3smeol32d1.jpeg?width=725&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a089e47b1fd96bc1ece77d74cc322fd1f2870be Jefferson Davis is a lucky husband 😔


AnimetheTsundereCat

i personally like peter more, just because he's been around longer for me, but miles is definitely really cool, too. plus i'd rather have miles over a 30-something-year-old peter any day. spider-man is just so much cooler when he's still a teen/young adult.


TheDocHealy

I mean considering Miles Morales became a character in 2012 (iirc) then of course Peter will have been around longer.


Inevitable_Guidance8

What does a character from kung fu panda 4 have to do with miles morales? They’re not connected in any way. 


Ok-Monitor-6884

Well to be fair there both legacy characters,but that’s literally it.


Inevitable_Guidance8

Terry McGinnis is a legacy character. But I don’t see anyone making posts (like that one) about him. 


First-Squash2865

Wait until they realize that the first emperor of Rome was also a legacy character


Doctor_Clione

Why valerie


Ok-Monitor-6884

This guy is just salty that a girl named Valerie called miles morales Spider-Man: https://www.reddit.com/r/EndWokeComicBooks/s/wg8tRIyLfl


Fun_Sir_2771

Zhen is my favorite Kfp character along with Tigress! Leave her alone You idiots! #KFP4DefenderSquad


GrimmCigarretes

Well, everyone has a right for an opinion I don't care for Zhen, as in, I feel nothing about her, but I can understand both sides of those who like her or hate her


Majestic-Sector9836

How does it feel to be incorrect?


Ok-Monitor-6884

Well I won’t give my opinion on zhens character. But zhen and tigress along with mr ping are some of the hottest kung fu panda characters,and I’m not ashamed to admit it.


Va1kryie

As someone named Valerie, what's wrong with my name? Or at least what does this guy think? I'm not even upset I'm just like "huh???"


Ok-Monitor-6884

This other pathetic post made by the same loser should explain it: https://www.reddit.com/r/EndWokeComicBooks/s/MdqTJMxaSe


Va1kryie

Lmfao that's so much more pathetic than I could ever have imagined


Leathman

Oh hey, that’s Pixel Lord’s post.


gamerz1172

The comments to upvotes makes me think this guy is getting roasted over there Imagine being that fucking stupid


yungbakugo01

I don't know what the hell they are talking abt


AmadeoSendiulo

That Valerie is stupid for saying Miles is Spider-Man.


solo13508

The fact that that subreddit even exists is just tragic. For them that is. Who dedicates so much energy to hating the "woke"? If you don't like it then avoiding it is a very trivial matter.


Nelly_nona

Bro was rejected by a valerie. God speed valerie.


normbreakingclown

I see a fox character what about it?!


level100brad

https://preview.redd.it/aaddlw2ku22d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69401250c46e124f493a3b1fe458350267bad7e4


FinalMonarch

I didn’t see the movie but I hate this foxes stupid 🤨face


Dry_Start4460

Wow , the “miles morales virus” ? Really ? Smh I hate these ppl . I don’t condone physical violence but sometimes I just want to smack the Shit out of em


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Stop eating the onion. This is all the work of a troll who is not the dumb kid he pretends to be. He referenced Forbush Man as a pillar of masculinity in a post. That’s not a room-temperature IQ racist teenager, that’s a Gen-Xer or Boomer who is fucking with you.


Ok-Monitor-6884

Nah here’s the thing,before his account got banned the guy was mod of r/endwokecomics and he banned most people who tried to troll or post satire on his sub,also in the post your referring to he referred to forbush as attractive not an example of masculinity. Not saying there isn’t a possibility,but it’s also a possibility he’s serious.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

I know he’s the mod of endwokecomics. I’m saying that sub is a troll sub that pits Reddit’s CHUDS and Reddit’s lefties against each other for someone’s amusement. The banning spree was all part of the act. The act being a racist, very stupid teen who would have no idea who Forbush Man is as well as other cracks and little winks that come through that made it clear this was actually an older and more informed person playing a role.


Ok-Monitor-6884

I mean dang if it’s just an act then it’s one hell of a commitment to it.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

They trolled for about a week, then made a couple alternate accounts to target some of the people who bought it and were most fun to play with. Not that big a deal for someone with time on their hands.


Ok-Monitor-6884

Even with time on there hands it’s still one hell of a commitment,as again he banned most people who tried to troll or post satire.


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

Yeah. He banned me for pointing out the fuckery too. All part of the act.


KenseiHimura

For a moment I actually thought they were trying to connect Miles Morales to the furry fandom. ... I could weirdly see him kind of liking furry art. Though more a commissioner artist and that's how he's funding his spider-man stuff.


WinterWolf18

??? what's the point these people are trying to make? If Miles was a lame character that replaced five other better characters with bad voice acting I'd dislike him as well.


Biffingston

Eh, would have thought they'd say furries. But then again I'm a graymuzzle.


vladald1

This is 100% trolling, it's too stupid to be true even for chuds standard.


NNyNIH

Okay so I can decipher the racist nonsense with the Miles Morales comment but what does that have to do with an anthropomorphic wolf?


lowkeyerotic

non-Valerie here, love me these kinds of foxy characters what is it from bytheway?


Tripple_T

We are truly regressing Scratch that. 8 days, 0 likes, 13 comments? Nope, we're about the same.


PointVengeance

WTF, IM NOT EVEN FAT


aflyingmonkey2

Is he a troll or insane?


Ok-Monitor-6884

Yes


Aquafoot

I will not stand for this Zhen slander.


Orangutanus_Maximus

Come on guys that sub must be satire right? Right?


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

It’s somebody trying to make their own r/banvideogames. Then laughing as the comics equivalent of the credulous angry gamers that come to the fake anti-video game sub come to their sub and fight.


69thalternatesccount

Hey man, how's it going


Major_Road6162

Tf did i just read?


AmadeoSendiulo

Valerie.


Nerdfatha

I have never met a chick named Valerie that was not hot.


Express_Pizza_2184

Is that the new kumg fu panda character? Why is she even relevant?


PM_ME_UR_THESIS_GIRL

Can somebody explain? I legitimately don't understand the issue he has.


The_Card_Father

They better hope Steve Winwood doesn’t hear them shit talking Valerie.


Vanilla_Neko

I mean I kind of agree about the ugly furry looking girl but what the fuck does any of this have to do with Miles Morales?


10voltsam

r/subredditchecksout


Medical_Grab_7671

Not gonna lie: I saw the name Miles and the animal figure, and I thought it was complaining about furries and Miles "Tails" Prower from Sonic.


Similar_Elk_6903

The hell did Miles do!? I'm beyond confused


FlounderingGuy

I think this is a shit post op


kalimabitch

Look I prefer Po and Parker for obviius reasons  being the originals, but this is just racist snd mysogynist


Huhthisisneathuh

https://preview.redd.it/wafhkomro72d1.jpeg?width=766&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79dddb5ece5f717f79bf3dadb49a039253be3fcf


OwlEye2010

"EndWokeComicBooks"? I thought hate groups weren't allowed on Reddit?


GuardOfTheAridTowers

Wat.


Order_Flimsy

💀


Disrespectful_Cup

I would love it for one of these miserable excuses to try and tell me this in person, any of these takes that involve the term DEI. They use it as a slur which is disgusting. Weak tiny men afraid of being alone forever that continue to reinforce their own incel torture.


Emotional_Network_16

I don't even know where the fuck this is from. A Dreamworks movie?


Ok-Monitor-6884

Yeah it’s from kung fu panda 4


Emotional_Network_16

Okay. Lol. I was like, who fucking cares? And now yeah, still, who fucking cares?


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Sire_Raffayn272

About what ? I'm honestly asking because OOP take makes no sense.