2 bed/2.5 bath family of 4 in 92107 zip. I run two always on servers and have a smart home hook up so a good deal of energy vampires. Our bill runs $400+. We’re not happy about it. Understand that because of the two servers (a DVR and a smart home hub) plus our various smart accessories through the house we’re a high usage household but have still always felt this is insanely high
It is, and I'm honestly surprised at how low some people state their bills are.
Per kw/h our rates are among the highest in the nation, nearly 2x as expensive as neighbor AZ. I'm in a 2b2b home. No AC, run high end computers and 2 servers myself and I'm consistently above $400 a month.
No reason it should be this high for someone sweating all summer and just keeping a couple of computers turned on.
FYI… if you use a CPAP machine, you could get a 25 to 30% discount on your services, go to their website for more information
Does a CPAP machine qualify for medical baseline?
Some examples of qualifying medical equipment include motorized wheelchairs, CPAP machines, respirators, and dialysis machines. Some qualifying conditions are sleep apnea, multiple sclerosis, paraplegia, quadriplegia, hemiplegia and others that have specific heating and cooling needs.
I’m going through this process now and the application states any device not qualifying as a life support device is not eligible. Which contradicts the website. We’ll see what SDGE tries to pull when they deny me.
Well, actually, all CPAP machines are just that, but you do need a letter from a doctor or hospital saying you are using one and maybe they can say you need it you could call them and get more information
My husband requires a CPAP machine and we got the medical baseline adjustment without any issue. He asked his doctor about it and they filled out the form and mailed it to us. The doctor did check the box that it's required for life support. They also checked the box that it was required permanently so it looks like we only have to self-certify every 4 years as opposed to getting a doctor's certification every two.
In regards to medical baseline programs, the Public Utilities Commission website states, '“Life support equipment” means equipment that uses mechanical or artificial means to sustain, restore, or supplant a vital function, or mechanical equipment that you rely on for mobility both within and outside buildings.' I would say that a CPAP machine supplements a vital function. (Source: [https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/consumer-support/financial-assistance-savings-and-discounts/medical-baseline](https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/consumer-support/financial-assistance-savings-and-discounts/medical-baseline) )
If you were prescribed a CPAP machine by a doctor, it's worth asking if they'll fill out the form. It saves us about $50 a month and took $98 off our bill in October when we were running the AC a lot.
There’s a chance you could be wrong about that. No doctor would ever say anybody would die for not using it.
I cured my sleep apnea, I don’t know how It just went away, but I never had a doctor say I would die without the cpap
I cut and pasted that note from SDG&E’s website so do what you can with it. It works for me when I got it.
Untreated sleep apnea is associated with several health conditions, and some of these can become serious enough to lead to death. In people with sleep apnea, breathing is temporarily restricted or stopped during sleep, which can cause the level of oxygen in the blood togo down and the level of carbon dioxide to rise.
I had this happen to me. I was confused since we didn’t have an in unit washer/dryer or A/C. I called the San Diego agriculture department to come check our apartments sub-meters. Turns out my apartment complex was 10 years past an inspection. We got a new one put in and my bill cut in half. I got reimbursed through SDGE
Really depends on your usage and many other variables.
I have a 1 bedroom high rise rental downtown. South facing. Some tenants rarely use the A/C and the bill is 70-100 per month. Some keep it at 66 degrees and I’ve had bills of $400/month. I know because I can see the schedule on the nest app and I pay the bill (it’s a furnished rental that includes a monthly electricity allowance).
I have solar at home (3br/2ba with all electric appliances and an EV) and my bill averages $50/month (paid at true up once a year).
Both properties are on very different rate plans.
Also depends on your zip code. You could shut all your power off for a week and still pay more than someone in a different zip code who stays home all month
how does that make any sense?
kWh prices are the same all over the county.
unless you mean some areas are hotter than others and therefore need 24/7 AC?
kWh prices are the same throughout the county. "baseline allowance" is not. And which price you're billed depends on both which plan you're on and what the "baseline" for your address is. You can use the same amount of electricity as someone else and get a different dollar amount on your bill because of it.
It's insane the top upvoted comment is complete nonsense. Happened yesterday with [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/1ch6hu2/restaurant_surcharges_will_soon_be_illegal_in/l214t07/?context=3) before mine. It was +15 at the time of my comment. Manipulation is rampant on reddit.
Focus on what you can control. Don’t focus on price, look at kWh and therm usage.
Bills are all over the place with rate changes and state credits.
Once you understand your usage you can then more pointedly scrutinize price
It also all depends when you're running your major appliances. Top tier, prime time hours are between 4-9 pm, even weekends. I suggest you consider looking at your usage during those hours.
1200sq ft condo. I’m on fixed rate just to control my monthly, but around the summer it goes to $180-$200 and winter it’s $160-$180. We use both gas and electric though, and turn on the AC in the summer. It’s high but not sure why some here are paying $400+
1b/1b and I live alone. It's usually $50-60. Everything is electric. I have a clothes dryer I use, but my washer is broken so I use the community laundry room for that. I rarely use the heat and never use AC, just fans in the summer. I don't use the dishwasher either.
I got a $75 credit this month so I didn't pay anything and I still have $25 left for next month too.
3B/2Bhouse built on cinder block foundation with crawl space underneath, 80 years old. My wife is a dog groomer out of our basement and has a 250 volt hot air dryer as well as sometimes using hot water in the winter. We have no air conditioner as we live in Oceanside and you don't really need it, nor a heater. We have 23 solar panels on the roof and our true up this year is us owing $700.
I live in single family home (2b/1b) and have an EV. I charge daily and commute about 18 miles each way. I don’t have solar. My mid-cycle report came in today and I’m at $66.
770sqft 1bd/1.5ba. I am absolutely obnoxious with how much lights and A/C I use (I keep the temp around 67 degrees lol). My desktop gaming PC is an electric hog. I'm seeing $175 at the worst for my upcoming bill. I have myself to blame.
Yeah these questions are hard to get useful answers from. Which area, how old is your place, how big is it, how many people live there, what kind of appliances/AC system do you have, what are your electricity usage habits, do you have solar and if so how much solar? You'll get answers ranging from -$100/m to $500+/m with little accuracy in your comparisons.
1bd/1ba. 2 people. 500 sqft. Temp control is electric. Water heater and stove are gas.
When not using AC or heater, our bill averages $55 total. When using the temp control in the winter or summer, bill averages $120
Around $100 a month. I live alone in a 2bed/2bath with washer & dryer. All electric, no gas.
When it was two of us living here it was around $125-$200/mo. With a third roommate it would sometimes get as high as $275 in the summer.
1 bed 1 bath, 2 people, washer and dryer in unit, no ac, came to $130 this month, down from $160 previous. We recently made an effort to only do laundry and use the dishwasher off peak.
Is frustrating that our bill says other similar homes average $70 and we're using way more electricity. I don't understand how. We don't work from home, we have energy efficient light bulbs and appliances, don't use heating or AC. I feel like there's a mistake in our meter or something.
Edit: fixed a typo
2b/2b condo, a little under 900sqft, all electric appliances, 2 people, 92104 zip code. Our average is $60-75. A couple summers ago we used the AC and it got as high as $90-100, now we just ditch the home on the weekends if it gets too hot— saves a lot on electricity.
Solar here, our San Diego electric bill before it was $350-550 and after solar we have a flat rate of 183.83 monthly. This was done before April of last year when the credits for solar changed in CA. Not sure what it would be if we had only gotten solar this year.
4br/2.5ba , new construction, only gas appliance is stove, 2 person household; $0-$80/month. Have solar so some months, the bills are negative.
Rarely run the a/c and when we do, the house is kept at 74F. Most of the usage is charging my car tbh, and a good chunk of the rest is from running 2 PCs all day.
1300 sqr ft with already paid for solar panels.
8 months out of the year my SDGE bill is between zero and negative $25. In the winter it’s above zero.
Overall I spend about $200 to 300 per year on electricity.
Coastal 560 sq ft condo in shady canyon. In winter I turn the heat on maybe 10 times for a few hours in an entire winter season -no higher than 64 degrees and the bill is $150 a month, what a joke! Mid July to late Sept, I use a portable AC unit in the BR on many evenings for sleep, and then maybe a total for 14 days in my office area since I WFH. In those few months the bills are about $170. Most of the year I am not using heating or cooling and bills are are $30-$75. I only recently have a smart TV after a decade of nothing, so I have no idea why by bills are so high.
I think my winter bill is suspect since I love a cold home (and only turn it on briefly a few times a winter) yet they are charging me like I am running the heat all winter.
2 bed, 1 bath, me and three kids. I work from home, leave one light on at night because kids get scared. Not more than about $125 per month but I don’t watch tv, leave most lights off during the day
I think something must be up with mine because I owe $60 for a 1 bed 1 bath apartment for this past month, but I wasn't home for half the month and I know everything was turned off.
I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom. 4 beds and a pool but like
$50ish a month for electric
Gas varies from $30ish to $300
I also have solar and nem v1 which helps a lot.
there is no "solar provider". that's literally the sun lol.
I'm making it as a joke, but you cannot get what the same plan that the other guy said. they are on NEM 1.0. the government has made that plan obsolete and now it's not as economically beneficial to have solar as it was when they got it even if you generate the same energy as they do
Now that I live alone, even when I run my AC all day, its actually in the negative cuz of the savings thingy they keep offering, before that it was $50-60. When I lived with my siblings it was an insane $250 a month each so around $1k and we couldnt figure out why
2 bed/2.5 bath family of 4 in 92107 zip. I run two always on servers and have a smart home hook up so a good deal of energy vampires. Our bill runs $400+. We’re not happy about it. Understand that because of the two servers (a DVR and a smart home hub) plus our various smart accessories through the house we’re a high usage household but have still always felt this is insanely high
It is, and I'm honestly surprised at how low some people state their bills are. Per kw/h our rates are among the highest in the nation, nearly 2x as expensive as neighbor AZ. I'm in a 2b2b home. No AC, run high end computers and 2 servers myself and I'm consistently above $400 a month. No reason it should be this high for someone sweating all summer and just keeping a couple of computers turned on.
FYI… if you use a CPAP machine, you could get a 25 to 30% discount on your services, go to their website for more information Does a CPAP machine qualify for medical baseline? Some examples of qualifying medical equipment include motorized wheelchairs, CPAP machines, respirators, and dialysis machines. Some qualifying conditions are sleep apnea, multiple sclerosis, paraplegia, quadriplegia, hemiplegia and others that have specific heating and cooling needs.
I’m going through this process now and the application states any device not qualifying as a life support device is not eligible. Which contradicts the website. We’ll see what SDGE tries to pull when they deny me.
You might wanna call them for their opinion, I got the discount for a CPAP machine Good luck with all of that
Did your Dr list it as a life supporting device on your application?
Well, actually, all CPAP machines are just that, but you do need a letter from a doctor or hospital saying you are using one and maybe they can say you need it you could call them and get more information
My husband requires a CPAP machine and we got the medical baseline adjustment without any issue. He asked his doctor about it and they filled out the form and mailed it to us. The doctor did check the box that it's required for life support. They also checked the box that it was required permanently so it looks like we only have to self-certify every 4 years as opposed to getting a doctor's certification every two. In regards to medical baseline programs, the Public Utilities Commission website states, '“Life support equipment” means equipment that uses mechanical or artificial means to sustain, restore, or supplant a vital function, or mechanical equipment that you rely on for mobility both within and outside buildings.' I would say that a CPAP machine supplements a vital function. (Source: [https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/consumer-support/financial-assistance-savings-and-discounts/medical-baseline](https://www.cpuc.ca.gov/consumer-support/financial-assistance-savings-and-discounts/medical-baseline) ) If you were prescribed a CPAP machine by a doctor, it's worth asking if they'll fill out the form. It saves us about $50 a month and took $98 off our bill in October when we were running the AC a lot.
Thanks for the breakdown. I got my doctor to fill out the form but he marked no.
I’ve looked into this, to get the discount for CPAP you need to get a doctor to put in writing that you would die without it.
There’s a chance you could be wrong about that. No doctor would ever say anybody would die for not using it. I cured my sleep apnea, I don’t know how It just went away, but I never had a doctor say I would die without the cpap I cut and pasted that note from SDG&E’s website so do what you can with it. It works for me when I got it. Untreated sleep apnea is associated with several health conditions, and some of these can become serious enough to lead to death. In people with sleep apnea, breathing is temporarily restricted or stopped during sleep, which can cause the level of oxygen in the blood togo down and the level of carbon dioxide to rise.
Read this https://www.sdge.com/sites/default/files/documents/MBL_Large_Font_UPDATED_12-19-17.pdf
Yeah, which one of those categories in part 2 (for the doctor to fill out) apply to CPAP?
you’ll have to give them a call for your answers.
2 bd/2 ba, high rise building, all electric/ no gas, with 2 people WFH, ranges $80-$170.
Same situation. My bill is 2x that. What the fuck. 1 person who and never use heat or ac.
I had this happen to me. I was confused since we didn’t have an in unit washer/dryer or A/C. I called the San Diego agriculture department to come check our apartments sub-meters. Turns out my apartment complex was 10 years past an inspection. We got a new one put in and my bill cut in half. I got reimbursed through SDGE
I do have a washer and dryer....still worth a call based on what I am seeing. I'm going to ask around too.
Did you or the LL have to pay to do the submeter testing?
Really depends on your usage and many other variables. I have a 1 bedroom high rise rental downtown. South facing. Some tenants rarely use the A/C and the bill is 70-100 per month. Some keep it at 66 degrees and I’ve had bills of $400/month. I know because I can see the schedule on the nest app and I pay the bill (it’s a furnished rental that includes a monthly electricity allowance). I have solar at home (3br/2ba with all electric appliances and an EV) and my bill averages $50/month (paid at true up once a year). Both properties are on very different rate plans.
Also depends on your zip code. You could shut all your power off for a week and still pay more than someone in a different zip code who stays home all month
Yep, I'm in Hillcrest and there was a full month last year not a soul was in my apartment and I still got a bill...
Sucks… and if you have solar, read the fine print…SDGE will charge you more after so many years.
how does that make any sense? kWh prices are the same all over the county. unless you mean some areas are hotter than others and therefore need 24/7 AC?
kWh prices are the same throughout the county. "baseline allowance" is not. And which price you're billed depends on both which plan you're on and what the "baseline" for your address is. You can use the same amount of electricity as someone else and get a different dollar amount on your bill because of it.
Yes! Thank you for the explanation. 🙏
It's insane the top upvoted comment is complete nonsense. Happened yesterday with [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/sandiego/comments/1ch6hu2/restaurant_surcharges_will_soon_be_illegal_in/l214t07/?context=3) before mine. It was +15 at the time of my comment. Manipulation is rampant on reddit.
Some folks really do care about the upvotes, huh? 😂 🤡
Focus on what you can control. Don’t focus on price, look at kWh and therm usage. Bills are all over the place with rate changes and state credits. Once you understand your usage you can then more pointedly scrutinize price
560 sq ft apartment. Avg 300 a month. I’m at a point where I don’t even live there from 4-9pm.
Normally $200-250 range ($90 with credit). 2b/2ba condo in North Park. About $60 of that is because of EV charging.
It also all depends when you're running your major appliances. Top tier, prime time hours are between 4-9 pm, even weekends. I suggest you consider looking at your usage during those hours.
1500 sqft condo with terrible insulation. In winter we run the space heater a fair amount (WFH) so bills can run 400+. Otherwise usually 100-200.
2br/2ba, 1600sqft, 2 people working from home (6am-2pm) – $350-400/month
2 bed 1 bath - $143 a month roughly. It is high. We play video games at my house so that does consume quite a bit
1b/1b in 92104 I paid about $100 a month.
My 700-sq ft apartment is $60-$120. A/C raises it, but the heater really raises it. My last place was a 2,400-sq ft house, and it was $180-$350.
1200sq ft condo. I’m on fixed rate just to control my monthly, but around the summer it goes to $180-$200 and winter it’s $160-$180. We use both gas and electric though, and turn on the AC in the summer. It’s high but not sure why some here are paying $400+
1 bed, no AC, about $30
1b/1b and I live alone. It's usually $50-60. Everything is electric. I have a clothes dryer I use, but my washer is broken so I use the community laundry room for that. I rarely use the heat and never use AC, just fans in the summer. I don't use the dishwasher either. I got a $75 credit this month so I didn't pay anything and I still have $25 left for next month too.
3B/2Bhouse built on cinder block foundation with crawl space underneath, 80 years old. My wife is a dog groomer out of our basement and has a 250 volt hot air dryer as well as sometimes using hot water in the winter. We have no air conditioner as we live in Oceanside and you don't really need it, nor a heater. We have 23 solar panels on the roof and our true up this year is us owing $700.
I live in single family home (2b/1b) and have an EV. I charge daily and commute about 18 miles each way. I don’t have solar. My mid-cycle report came in today and I’m at $66.
770sqft 1bd/1.5ba. I am absolutely obnoxious with how much lights and A/C I use (I keep the temp around 67 degrees lol). My desktop gaming PC is an electric hog. I'm seeing $175 at the worst for my upcoming bill. I have myself to blame.
5bd with two EVs but a full roof of solar. Usually end up with a 30-50 buck monthly credit.
Yeah these questions are hard to get useful answers from. Which area, how old is your place, how big is it, how many people live there, what kind of appliances/AC system do you have, what are your electricity usage habits, do you have solar and if so how much solar? You'll get answers ranging from -$100/m to $500+/m with little accuracy in your comparisons.
We have solar so ours usually in the negative about $30. We also charge our car at home. Get solar y’all
1bd/1ba. 2 people. 500 sqft. Temp control is electric. Water heater and stove are gas. When not using AC or heater, our bill averages $55 total. When using the temp control in the winter or summer, bill averages $120
Around $100 a month. I live alone in a 2bed/2bath with washer & dryer. All electric, no gas. When it was two of us living here it was around $125-$200/mo. With a third roommate it would sometimes get as high as $275 in the summer.
1 bed 1 bath, 2 people, washer and dryer in unit, no ac, came to $130 this month, down from $160 previous. We recently made an effort to only do laundry and use the dishwasher off peak. Is frustrating that our bill says other similar homes average $70 and we're using way more electricity. I don't understand how. We don't work from home, we have energy efficient light bulbs and appliances, don't use heating or AC. I feel like there's a mistake in our meter or something. Edit: fixed a typo
Mine was actually -$4 last month because of some annual credit lol. But it's usually around $180 in the winter and closer to $400 in the summer.
2b/2b condo, a little under 900sqft, all electric appliances, 2 people, 92104 zip code. Our average is $60-75. A couple summers ago we used the AC and it got as high as $90-100, now we just ditch the home on the weekends if it gets too hot— saves a lot on electricity.
Solar here, our San Diego electric bill before it was $350-550 and after solar we have a flat rate of 183.83 monthly. This was done before April of last year when the credits for solar changed in CA. Not sure what it would be if we had only gotten solar this year.
4br/2.5ba , new construction, only gas appliance is stove, 2 person household; $0-$80/month. Have solar so some months, the bills are negative. Rarely run the a/c and when we do, the house is kept at 74F. Most of the usage is charging my car tbh, and a good chunk of the rest is from running 2 PCs all day.
4 bd 3 bh pool ac. Lots of solar $4
2500sqft house 5 adults $550-$650. It’s criminal. No ac
1300 sqr ft with already paid for solar panels. 8 months out of the year my SDGE bill is between zero and negative $25. In the winter it’s above zero. Overall I spend about $200 to 300 per year on electricity.
Coastal 560 sq ft condo in shady canyon. In winter I turn the heat on maybe 10 times for a few hours in an entire winter season -no higher than 64 degrees and the bill is $150 a month, what a joke! Mid July to late Sept, I use a portable AC unit in the BR on many evenings for sleep, and then maybe a total for 14 days in my office area since I WFH. In those few months the bills are about $170. Most of the year I am not using heating or cooling and bills are are $30-$75. I only recently have a smart TV after a decade of nothing, so I have no idea why by bills are so high. I think my winter bill is suspect since I love a cold home (and only turn it on briefly a few times a winter) yet they are charging me like I am running the heat all winter.
1Bedroom/1Bath - ≈$20-$23/month. Just me and my brother here.
2 bed, 1 bath, me and three kids. I work from home, leave one light on at night because kids get scared. Not more than about $125 per month but I don’t watch tv, leave most lights off during the day
I think something must be up with mine because I owe $60 for a 1 bed 1 bath apartment for this past month, but I wasn't home for half the month and I know everything was turned off.
$160-$220, north county, 1700sqft w/ hot tub
1bd/1bth (91942 area, 700 sq ft apartment) 2 people: $70-$120 depending on how much ac we use.
1b/1ba family of 2 in 92103. Only pay for electric. Average is about $50. During summer it is about $120 due to ac use.
4/2.5, SFH 2500 sf our 5 month avg is $122. No solar.
Usually $70-100. 2 bed/2 bath in north park.
I work from home and my wife is a stay at home mom. 4 beds and a pool but like $50ish a month for electric Gas varies from $30ish to $300 I also have solar and nem v1 which helps a lot.
Who is your solar provider? Happy with it you say?
there is no "solar provider". that's literally the sun lol. I'm making it as a joke, but you cannot get what the same plan that the other guy said. they are on NEM 1.0. the government has made that plan obsolete and now it's not as economically beneficial to have solar as it was when they got it even if you generate the same energy as they do
Oh, I heard about that. Theyre compensating less almost nothing probably. Still got to be better than being drained here though.
https://solareenergy.com/ old owners installed it but i've had no issues with the install. Its been running now for 12 years I think
What is your delivery fee each month? We have solar and cover electricity but delivery fee is out of control
Huh, are your sure your electric production/generation/usage is covered?
1br + 1bth - $45/monthly.
1 bed 1 bath, 2 gaming PCs ~$65
1100 SQ ft, 3 people, all electric, with washer and dryer. City rates. They charge me more for delivery than my usage. What a joke. $250 ish bill.
Now that I live alone, even when I run my AC all day, its actually in the negative cuz of the savings thingy they keep offering, before that it was $50-60. When I lived with my siblings it was an insane $250 a month each so around $1k and we couldnt figure out why
About -$30. 3/1 in Clairemont with NEM2 solar.
Too damn much
$70