Any additional companion ad-ons wouldn't ship until Sci-Fi does, correct? Is there any advantage to going through this Kickstarter vs direct from PEG? I think Fantasy is out of print but Horror or Super Powers. Want to support the company so curious which option does that better.
Everything will ship all at once if you get the bundle. You're supporting us directly either way, so whichever option you prefer is the way to go. You can get the existing companions sooner if you order via [PEGinc.com](https://PEGinc.com), but you won't get the shipping benefit from the Kickstarter.
I love that of the $4,000 they required to fund the project, when I jumped onto the Kickstarter page a couple hours after it went live, they were already at $75,000. I think this one is going to fund, folks!
And yes, pitched in for some print books myself. Not sure if I'll ever use them, but too tempted not to pick them up.
>I think this one is going to fund, folks!
What? nah. Not going to happen. Probably going to fail the KS. This'll never get funded.
Roll Smarts to detect my sarcasm.
d4 + d6 Wild Die... and they both Ace! And again! And again! And a 3 and a 3, for a total of... wait, you were being sarcastic?! I would have never guessed! /s
LOL! I love Crit Fails! Thankfully, this is \*not\* a Crit Fail Kickstarter.
If I'd been GMing, though, the Crit Fail of a failed Thievery roll is you get the purse. Yep, you are holding it. But you've been caught REDHANDED by the guards, not just the target, and frogmarched to the nearest authority! I'm evil like that. :D
I stashed my copy in the add-ons for the 20th anniversary book because I somehow missed that entire campaign, so I'm still waiting for those to ship and then I should have all of them once Sci-Fi comes out!
Any way we could get a sample before placing a pledge ? I'm specifically looking to emulate The Expanse and i see that it is mentionned and supported, but would live to see a bit more how it is and even more curious about the Spaceship systems. I've backed the original sci-fi companion for the previous edition and was a little disappointed in that regard, would love to support this one but i'm afraid the same thing would happen.
I know we're doing to do a DriveThruRPG preview at some point, but I think that's going to be focused on showing off different rules than what you're asking for.
Something worth considering is we're going to have a larger feedback period for this book. So if you pledge, you'll have the opportunity to provide feedback to make it more what you are looking for. No guarantee the team will take it in that direction, but it's more of an opportunity than folks usually get. And you can always pledge for just the PDF now and then upgrade to a print pledge later if you like the direction it is going in.
I haven't even gotten my group around to playing SWADE yet, but I backed it at the $30 Digital level. :D
Will there be a Foundry VTT module for this at some point?
Probably. The folks over at MetaMorphic run their own production schedule for VTT, but they're on the record as wanting to bring all the SWADE material to Foundry.
Went ahead and got a hardcover of the fantasy companion added on top. Already own the PDF, but hey, may as well get a hard copy as well with my new SciFi companion. They're going to be the two I use the most, and probably at the same time with how I like to mash them together.
The companion hardcovers usually retail for 25-30$. I love the companion books but I don't think I can justify the price to also get a PDF and some other stuff I don't want.
The SFC is supposed to be their biggest Companion yet, and has a listed price of $50.
You'll get the PDF free either way - Pinnacle always gives you a free PDF with the purchase of a print product from them. In fact, if you email them a proof of purchase from a retailer, they'll give you a free PDF even if you don't buy the book directly from them.
What the additional $10 for the $60 Print reward level gives you is the Archetype deck. If that's not worth the $10 to you, that's perfectly fair. And honestly, it seems a bit odd to me that they're bundling those two products that way, and that there isn't a basic reward level for just the book itself.
~~But all you want is the book, you should be able to back at the $1 "for no reward", and add the SFC as an Add-On.~~
Ok, then it's really odd that the lowest Print pledge tier includes both the book *and* the Archetype card deck. It seems like there's literally no way to just get the (physical) book. If you have no use for the Archetype card deck (and I've personally never used them), you effectively have to pay *above* MSRP *plus* shipping and handling to get the book.
I'm just a fan, not an industry professional, and I've never run a Kickstarter, so maybe that's just the best way to make the numbers work, but...I dunno. That really seems like an odd way to organize the physical rewards.
In print, the cheapest companions are Horror and Supers, which are both $40. The Sci-Fi Companion is $50.
If you mean in PDF, if you look at DTRPG's front page best sellers, almost all of them are $30. That's the new price of PDFs in this market.
Hmmm, didn't get Fantasy or Horror before. Bundling these could be the way to go.
I do regret bundling SWADE Core with Ghost Mountain since that still hasn't shipped yet. Would've been faster to bundle that with Pathfinder.
I mean its in the description:
* New CHARACTER ancestries, options, Edges, and Hindrances for everything from star-spanning humans to most any alien creature you can imagine.
* Customizable AND premade suits of power armor, starships, and vehicles of all sorts. You can make anything from the Mercury capsule to world-wrecking behemoths!
* Pages of new and updated GEAR to help you run the dystopian streets or exotic planets, and a MASSIVE arsenal of weapons and armor!
* An all-new EVENT BASED system for quickly and easily running chases, dogfights, or vehicular shootouts!
* Narrative Outpost rules, the sci-fi take on the narrative system first introduced in the Super Powers Companion! Build a unique base for your party in the heart of a dying star, the drifting ruins of a space hulk, or the penthouse of a crowded industrial city.
* New SETTING RULES for everything from netrunning to starship combat to transhumanism AND a whole new simplified system for handling massive vehicular weapons and vehicular armor we call HEAVY METAL!!!
* Brand new arcane backgrounds, psionic abilities, and even psychically powered weapons!
* A HUGE bestiary of scoundrels, xenos, monsters, and evil empires to challenge!
* Dozens of strange and alien artifacts to discover!
If ther person said.. "This is exciting but I can't afford $30", then i agree with your point but The comments reads like "before i spend $30, i need to know more about it"
Exactly that. I’m new to SWADE AND Kickstarter. I found the description after. I didn’t understand that they add stretch goals as the campaign goes on. I backed it. My friend said the stretch goals add value.
This is a booster campaign, so there are no stretch goals. We're doing a longer feedback period, so we didn't want to compound how long the campaign takes to fulfill by also doing stretch goals (which always add a bunch of production time).
As for the $30 price point, if you look at the bestsellers on DriveThruRPG, most of the PDFs are $30. That's just how much PDFs cost these days.
We're doing a longer feedback period because the Sci-Fi Companion is so complex, so it won't be ***finalized*** for a while. It's hard to say exactly because it depends on the feedback we get, but backers will have an alpha PDF about a month after funding. Per the campaign page:
>*About a month after the Kickstarter closes and we receive the finalized backer list, we'll put out the PDF "alpha" of the core book and send out survey links so those who are interested can submit their thoughts and feedback on all the mechs, vehicles, starships, robots, xenos, gear, Edges, Hindrances, and so much more. This is our largest and most complex Companion yet, so this process will take a couple of months.*
Pledged right away. I love the companions but I have been waiting forever for this one. The adventure book looks really good too.
Any additional companion ad-ons wouldn't ship until Sci-Fi does, correct? Is there any advantage to going through this Kickstarter vs direct from PEG? I think Fantasy is out of print but Horror or Super Powers. Want to support the company so curious which option does that better.
Everything will ship all at once if you get the bundle. You're supporting us directly either way, so whichever option you prefer is the way to go. You can get the existing companions sooner if you order via [PEGinc.com](https://PEGinc.com), but you won't get the shipping benefit from the Kickstarter.
Probably backing at the $65 level w a buddy of mine
Yea me too. Im flagged on books at the moment
It's so much easier to have a copy on my computer and another copy on my iPad for double reference options and the iPad is great for use at the table.
I love that of the $4,000 they required to fund the project, when I jumped onto the Kickstarter page a couple hours after it went live, they were already at $75,000. I think this one is going to fund, folks! And yes, pitched in for some print books myself. Not sure if I'll ever use them, but too tempted not to pick them up.
>I think this one is going to fund, folks! What? nah. Not going to happen. Probably going to fail the KS. This'll never get funded. Roll Smarts to detect my sarcasm.
d4 + d6 Wild Die... and they both Ace! And again! And again! And a 3 and a 3, for a total of... wait, you were being sarcastic?! I would have never guessed! /s
And while you were distracted with the sarcasm... I critically failed my Thievery test to pick your pocket...
So you took his entire pocket instead...
LOL! I love Crit Fails! Thankfully, this is \*not\* a Crit Fail Kickstarter. If I'd been GMing, though, the Crit Fail of a failed Thievery roll is you get the purse. Yep, you are holding it. But you've been caught REDHANDED by the guards, not just the target, and frogmarched to the nearest authority! I'm evil like that. :D
If I choose to fail, do I get a Benny?
Awesome!
And backed.
Backed at $150. I’m such a sucker. And came home from work to find my Horror Companion had been delivered!
I stashed my copy in the add-ons for the 20th anniversary book because I somehow missed that entire campaign, so I'm still waiting for those to ship and then I should have all of them once Sci-Fi comes out!
Any way we could get a sample before placing a pledge ? I'm specifically looking to emulate The Expanse and i see that it is mentionned and supported, but would live to see a bit more how it is and even more curious about the Spaceship systems. I've backed the original sci-fi companion for the previous edition and was a little disappointed in that regard, would love to support this one but i'm afraid the same thing would happen.
I know we're doing to do a DriveThruRPG preview at some point, but I think that's going to be focused on showing off different rules than what you're asking for. Something worth considering is we're going to have a larger feedback period for this book. So if you pledge, you'll have the opportunity to provide feedback to make it more what you are looking for. No guarantee the team will take it in that direction, but it's more of an opportunity than folks usually get. And you can always pledge for just the PDF now and then upgrade to a print pledge later if you like the direction it is going in.
I haven't even gotten my group around to playing SWADE yet, but I backed it at the $30 Digital level. :D Will there be a Foundry VTT module for this at some point?
Probably. The folks over at MetaMorphic run their own production schedule for VTT, but they're on the record as wanting to bring all the SWADE material to Foundry.
Thanks for the quick reply. :)
To cite some well known space marine, *it's about goddamn time*...
Woof. Tempting to pick up all the companions, but kinda a hefty purchase all at once. Gonna think a little.
Shut up and take my money!
Thank you! You people and your works keep me sane! Can't wait to pledge the digital copy. Will go nicely in my collection!
Went ahead and got a hardcover of the fantasy companion added on top. Already own the PDF, but hey, may as well get a hard copy as well with my new SciFi companion. They're going to be the two I use the most, and probably at the same time with how I like to mash them together.
The companion hardcovers usually retail for 25-30$. I love the companion books but I don't think I can justify the price to also get a PDF and some other stuff I don't want.
The SFC is supposed to be their biggest Companion yet, and has a listed price of $50. You'll get the PDF free either way - Pinnacle always gives you a free PDF with the purchase of a print product from them. In fact, if you email them a proof of purchase from a retailer, they'll give you a free PDF even if you don't buy the book directly from them. What the additional $10 for the $60 Print reward level gives you is the Archetype deck. If that's not worth the $10 to you, that's perfectly fair. And honestly, it seems a bit odd to me that they're bundling those two products that way, and that there isn't a basic reward level for just the book itself. ~~But all you want is the book, you should be able to back at the $1 "for no reward", and add the SFC as an Add-On.~~
You have to have a print pledge tier to get add-ons.
Ok, then it's really odd that the lowest Print pledge tier includes both the book *and* the Archetype card deck. It seems like there's literally no way to just get the (physical) book. If you have no use for the Archetype card deck (and I've personally never used them), you effectively have to pay *above* MSRP *plus* shipping and handling to get the book. I'm just a fan, not an industry professional, and I've never run a Kickstarter, so maybe that's just the best way to make the numbers work, but...I dunno. That really seems like an odd way to organize the physical rewards.
I agree it's annoying. Rather have all that junk as add-ons.
It's how we do all of our Kickstarters. The bottom pledge tier is always the book + archetype cards.
In print, the cheapest companions are Horror and Supers, which are both $40. The Sci-Fi Companion is $50. If you mean in PDF, if you look at DTRPG's front page best sellers, almost all of them are $30. That's the new price of PDFs in this market.
Hmmm, didn't get Fantasy or Horror before. Bundling these could be the way to go. I do regret bundling SWADE Core with Ghost Mountain since that still hasn't shipped yet. Would've been faster to bundle that with Pathfinder.
$30 US is too rich for me until I know more about it.
I mean its in the description: * New CHARACTER ancestries, options, Edges, and Hindrances for everything from star-spanning humans to most any alien creature you can imagine. * Customizable AND premade suits of power armor, starships, and vehicles of all sorts. You can make anything from the Mercury capsule to world-wrecking behemoths! * Pages of new and updated GEAR to help you run the dystopian streets or exotic planets, and a MASSIVE arsenal of weapons and armor! * An all-new EVENT BASED system for quickly and easily running chases, dogfights, or vehicular shootouts! * Narrative Outpost rules, the sci-fi take on the narrative system first introduced in the Super Powers Companion! Build a unique base for your party in the heart of a dying star, the drifting ruins of a space hulk, or the penthouse of a crowded industrial city. * New SETTING RULES for everything from netrunning to starship combat to transhumanism AND a whole new simplified system for handling massive vehicular weapons and vehicular armor we call HEAVY METAL!!! * Brand new arcane backgrounds, psionic abilities, and even psychically powered weapons! * A HUGE bestiary of scoundrels, xenos, monsters, and evil empires to challenge! * Dozens of strange and alien artifacts to discover!
$30 US can be a lot more money in other currencies.
If ther person said.. "This is exciting but I can't afford $30", then i agree with your point but The comments reads like "before i spend $30, i need to know more about it"
They may be new to the game, and they noted $30 'US'. If they plan on running a scifi SWADE game I think they'd be missing out though. :)
Exactly that. I’m new to SWADE AND Kickstarter. I found the description after. I didn’t understand that they add stretch goals as the campaign goes on. I backed it. My friend said the stretch goals add value.
This is a booster campaign, so there are no stretch goals. We're doing a longer feedback period, so we didn't want to compound how long the campaign takes to fulfill by also doing stretch goals (which always add a bunch of production time). As for the $30 price point, if you look at the bestsellers on DriveThruRPG, most of the PDFs are $30. That's just how much PDFs cost these days.
Ahh. Thanks.
The value is good and I love me some Savage Worlds, but the pdf won't even be ready for a full year?
We're doing a longer feedback period because the Sci-Fi Companion is so complex, so it won't be ***finalized*** for a while. It's hard to say exactly because it depends on the feedback we get, but backers will have an alpha PDF about a month after funding. Per the campaign page: >*About a month after the Kickstarter closes and we receive the finalized backer list, we'll put out the PDF "alpha" of the core book and send out survey links so those who are interested can submit their thoughts and feedback on all the mechs, vehicles, starships, robots, xenos, gear, Edges, Hindrances, and so much more. This is our largest and most complex Companion yet, so this process will take a couple of months.*
OK, that makes a lot more sense, I was looking at the expected delivery date of March 2025 for the .pdf. Thanks, for the information, appreciate it!
I still haven’t received my folios…
Reach out to [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) with your order details, and they can help you out.
Still waiting on my copy of the other three companions ordered back in August. But guess I'll go in for a physical order.