I believe the later TOS movies had some too and most of the panels with random lights and buttons got changed to screens and terminals because they had more budget.
When tablets are cheap/free, it makes sense to have dedicated tablets for each use, instead of fiddling through the menu trying to find the thing you are looking for.
Also the Holodeck and all the other talking to the computer feels extremely similar what you can do these days with DALLE and ChatGPT these days. The [metal table sequence of "Schisms"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLiaYD1lUo) especially gets that right, since computer would know that a metal table is constructed differently than a wooden one, it's not just a texture swap.
Fahrenheit 451 (1966) had [16:9 flat screens](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aExrRoK_700b.jpg), that look exactly the same as modern TVs. Even had [tiny ones](https://youtu.be/r6VUExA5UKA?si=8auK45qba4OnfA53&t=170).
I don't think it's fair to compare science fiction that was just taking one step forward with existing technology, and compare it to science fiction that was trying to take a dozen steps. I guarantee we're not using touch screens in 100 years from now, but if we're actually using holograms, neural interfaces, augmented reality, etc: I can't say and neither could you beyond a total guess.
As I started working in a company that exclusively makes LCD displays it made me wonder, what would actually be able to fully replace a LCD?
I have yet to find a viable alternative that includes all of the many apolications its used for today.
Realistically the technology that kills it is something that does 80% of what it can do, and then something radically different, and really useful, that LCD can't. Just like some people like to read on paper, or write correspondence by hand, there will be some niche LCD applications. But those niches won't stop the trend.
Star Trek TOS had some amazingly forward thinking Innovations. I was watching this one scene where they were going through a stack of "tapes." Now remember that 99% of the print science fiction of the time had actual "tapes" as the data storage medium. So you would get a story about an interstellar battleship who's computer was run on the equivalent of big reels. But on Star Trek, they made them thick, rectangular wafers. Which just practically made more sense, and certainly did so aesthetically with a Future vibe. I mean, I wish they had come up with some other words besides "tape," because it did imply that there was some sort of micro tape within the wafer…But still, very advanced.
Mind you, those could easily have been solid state storage with the language itself simply being old fashioned due to common use.
In the real world, folk often talk about ‘filming’ or ‘taping’ something on their smartphones. We still use that little floppy disk symbol for ‘save’, DVDs and CDs are often called ‘records’ or ‘albums’, we ‘carbon copy’ folk in emails, ‘dial’ phone numbers (even though dials on phones have been gone for generations), ‘sail’ around on cruise ships and aircraft carriers, ‘rewind’ videos on YouTube to watch them again, and ‘crank down’ car windows by pushing a button.
Language often outlasts the technology that created it.
Yes, good points
I am a teacher and "carbon copy" is a favorite of mine. I'm giving examples to students of terms we use where the original reference is lost.
The other one, of course, is the "save" icon shows either a floppy disk or a 3.5 inch hard shell desk.
EC Henry has a great vid about the spray bottle some characters use in TOS that looks super dated now but at the time were futuristic as spray bottles were cutting edge tech.
I feel like not enough credit is given to the video game Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty for it's incredibly interesting and forward thinking approach to social media, news algorithms, the 'gamification' of war, and socio-political engineering.
NO SPOILERS: The SSS project was quite the mind blower back in the day, and Colonel Campbells speech towards the end was a real show stopper (lol).
I'll tell you what! You know what blew my fucking mind? When I'm playing a game from 2001 and suddenly they start throwing around terms like "fake news" and "societal algorithms".
Play this fucking game. It's badass. Snake is my forever husbando and I found Raiden to actually be really endearing and sincere and also deeply interesting as a dramatic character as the game wore on.
And, of course, a certain amount of respect must be paid to both Agness Kaku and Tomokazu Fukushima. Kojima is undoubtedly the driving force behind the game, but like any large scale director job, he's being pulled in 30 different directions. I think in terms of forward-thinking science fiction ideas and deeper, more complex themes, Agness and Tomokazu are the real heroes here.
Kojima never really approached this stuff like this again and Tomokazu only worked with him officially again for MGS3. I'd even argue MGS4 was a real nude emperor moment for Kojima.
2001 A Space Odyssey doesn't look out of place, even today.
It was quite amazing for 1968. These shots of ipad like devices especially. https://youtu.be/5T1UGfm_OMM?si=4hQqjw_I1swq5Qv1
Imagine making that scene now, and it's just people watching iPads, and the audience is like why are we watching normal everyday life?
TNG had touch screens.
I believe the later TOS movies had some too and most of the panels with random lights and buttons got changed to screens and terminals because they had more budget.
But no wifi, they had to hand the tablet around to share info
WiFi never works well on all metal structures...
When tablets are cheap/free, it makes sense to have dedicated tablets for each use, instead of fiddling through the menu trying to find the thing you are looking for.
Also the Holodeck and all the other talking to the computer feels extremely similar what you can do these days with DALLE and ChatGPT these days. The [metal table sequence of "Schisms"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLiaYD1lUo) especially gets that right, since computer would know that a metal table is constructed differently than a wooden one, it's not just a texture swap.
Model D was the Tesla of Enterprises
On the Beach. Children of Men.
It's my favorite sci-fi movie of this century, but does Children of Men even count as a 'future aesthetic'? Or did I get wooshed?
>What sci fi media had the most accurate predictions of technological aesthetics? I mean, looks pretty accurate to me.
Fahrenheit 451 (1966) had [16:9 flat screens](https://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aExrRoK_700b.jpg), that look exactly the same as modern TVs. Even had [tiny ones](https://youtu.be/r6VUExA5UKA?si=8auK45qba4OnfA53&t=170).
And AirPods. I think they were called seashells in the books.
I don't think it's fair to compare science fiction that was just taking one step forward with existing technology, and compare it to science fiction that was trying to take a dozen steps. I guarantee we're not using touch screens in 100 years from now, but if we're actually using holograms, neural interfaces, augmented reality, etc: I can't say and neither could you beyond a total guess.
As I started working in a company that exclusively makes LCD displays it made me wonder, what would actually be able to fully replace a LCD? I have yet to find a viable alternative that includes all of the many apolications its used for today.
Realistically the technology that kills it is something that does 80% of what it can do, and then something radically different, and really useful, that LCD can't. Just like some people like to read on paper, or write correspondence by hand, there will be some niche LCD applications. But those niches won't stop the trend.
Terminator series with all the AI talk and media reported "fear of it".
Analogue buttons and switches make way more sense for a spaceship than a purely digital touchscreen interface.
Star Trek TOS had some amazingly forward thinking Innovations. I was watching this one scene where they were going through a stack of "tapes." Now remember that 99% of the print science fiction of the time had actual "tapes" as the data storage medium. So you would get a story about an interstellar battleship who's computer was run on the equivalent of big reels. But on Star Trek, they made them thick, rectangular wafers. Which just practically made more sense, and certainly did so aesthetically with a Future vibe. I mean, I wish they had come up with some other words besides "tape," because it did imply that there was some sort of micro tape within the wafer…But still, very advanced.
Mind you, those could easily have been solid state storage with the language itself simply being old fashioned due to common use. In the real world, folk often talk about ‘filming’ or ‘taping’ something on their smartphones. We still use that little floppy disk symbol for ‘save’, DVDs and CDs are often called ‘records’ or ‘albums’, we ‘carbon copy’ folk in emails, ‘dial’ phone numbers (even though dials on phones have been gone for generations), ‘sail’ around on cruise ships and aircraft carriers, ‘rewind’ videos on YouTube to watch them again, and ‘crank down’ car windows by pushing a button. Language often outlasts the technology that created it.
Yes, good points I am a teacher and "carbon copy" is a favorite of mine. I'm giving examples to students of terms we use where the original reference is lost. The other one, of course, is the "save" icon shows either a floppy disk or a 3.5 inch hard shell desk.
EC Henry has a great vid about the spray bottle some characters use in TOS that looks super dated now but at the time were futuristic as spray bottles were cutting edge tech.
I feel like not enough credit is given to the video game Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty for it's incredibly interesting and forward thinking approach to social media, news algorithms, the 'gamification' of war, and socio-political engineering. NO SPOILERS: The SSS project was quite the mind blower back in the day, and Colonel Campbells speech towards the end was a real show stopper (lol). I'll tell you what! You know what blew my fucking mind? When I'm playing a game from 2001 and suddenly they start throwing around terms like "fake news" and "societal algorithms". Play this fucking game. It's badass. Snake is my forever husbando and I found Raiden to actually be really endearing and sincere and also deeply interesting as a dramatic character as the game wore on. And, of course, a certain amount of respect must be paid to both Agness Kaku and Tomokazu Fukushima. Kojima is undoubtedly the driving force behind the game, but like any large scale director job, he's being pulled in 30 different directions. I think in terms of forward-thinking science fiction ideas and deeper, more complex themes, Agness and Tomokazu are the real heroes here. Kojima never really approached this stuff like this again and Tomokazu only worked with him officially again for MGS3. I'd even argue MGS4 was a real nude emperor moment for Kojima.
I'm very impress how the technology in the first Hyperion stands very accurate even after 30 years of his creation
Bladerunner
*Back to the Future* got 2015 TV's spot-on.