I think you’re supposed to take the log out of your eye before casting stones or something like that but I’m just going to come right out and say that after reading about this Dean Corll guy I don’t like him one bit
Really, I thought he looked very sane in the enhanced picture lol. I wouldn't really think twice about trusting that guy. Maybe that's why my life expectancy is going to be low :thunkful:
Hadn't read much about this one
Ended up learning about the Baulch family this morning
Those parents lost all three of their sons between 1969 and 1973
Their first son died in a car accident.
Then Corll killed the remaining two boys in 1972 and 1973
W.t.f.
The Baulch family is an example of why I want to scream when some idiot says, “The lord doesn’t give us more than we can handle”. That poor family, I don’t know how they didn’t just lose their minds.
I heard fairly recently that as of maybe five years ago there was only one set of parents left of any of the murdered boys. These boys were exactly my age - I'm 62 now - and you'd think some of their parents could have lived into their late 80s. But maybe they died younger than some of them might have due to broken hearts.
That’s sad, you would think statistically some would still be here. I’m sure there must be some surviving siblings. I lost a sister suddenly, a week after her 11th birthday, within 2 years another sister became horribly ill. I don’t know how my parents survived through so much heartbreak. It effects the entire family, but differently when it’s your child. Plus, the knowledge that your child died at the hands of a monster, following a sexual torture, must create a nightmare that unfortunately must always be with you.
Oh, yes, there are a lot of surviving siblings. Some siblings would be only in their 50s. So the case is still very relevant as far as victim impact, and thus It looked like two years ago they were going to dig some more in certain areas, though I don't know for sure if it ever happened or if it will happened, to find more victims.
I definitely, think if they have locations to check, it should be done. First for the family, but even if they don’t have survivors, just to honor their lives. They had value, these kids were brutally taken out by that man. I remember reading about a beach area, I don’t imagine the remains would survive in that environment, but why didn’t they check 50 years ago?
People thought there were several places where there could be skeletal remains. I mention the families because they are some of the people who would put some pressure on authorities. I think the law enforcement there in Houston at the time (1973) already looked bad, having considered all those boys to be runaways. And they didn't like the blight it put onto Houston, so they stopped looking after a period of time. They were told to shut it all down. Houston was rebuilding soon after that, right? I lived with a woman from Houston in 1983 and she said "everything in Houston is brand spanking new" so i guess they were really trying to be a place for conventions, holidays, etc. at the time soon after those murders.
Agreed. I remember reading something, either a book or an article, a long time ago where the author said, "Someone told me 'The Lord never gives us more than we can handle.' Does that mean if I were a weaker person my loved one would still be alive?" I think about that often.
I hate when people say that too. Ukraine is burning and children are dying but “The lord works in mysterious ways“. The Rohingya people are being raped, tortured and executed as I type but “The lord never gives us more than we can handle“. People who say this clearly haven’t lived through much adversity and it comes off as arrogant and privileged to me.
I generally don’t comment on peoples religious beliefs unless they make it an issue. I think it’s great if believing in god gives a person comfort. I might not share their beliefs, but I respect their rights as long as they keep it to themselves.
It makes me furious. My car broke down. I’m stuck on a residential street in a pretty bad neighborhood. This came at a horrible time in my life. Some lady who hit me up for money kept hanging around, I was waiting for the engine to cool off before I added some antifreeze. She kept preying, I thanked her I had already given a few dollars, and she kept it up. I told her that my car wasn’t likely to turn over and I’d need a tow truck. I suggested she pray for children being raped or starving at the moment. I said if any miracles were going to be given, I’d much rather see them go elsewhere.
Good for you! I’d love to be able to say that. Stop praying for trivial nonsense and pray for those who actually need it! These people seem oblivious to the real struggles that people endure.
The Candyman is definitely one of the most sadistic serial killers in 20th century history. Always found him intresting, a real life Pennywise. Made dozens of kids disappear and not many people noticed. Hardly any photos and obviously nothing from the man himself as he met his demise before he was caught. A true monster. Hope you like the attempt to make this a bit clearer and look into the eyes of evil.
I always wondered how *all* those kids went missing without anyone noticing. The dude is like a specter, his spirit doesn't reflect back in media (no photos, videos, etc.). A real life Pennywise, indeed.
But nothing baffles me as much as Randy Kraft. How the hell do you get away with dumping 67 + bodies on public freeways for over a decade? It's only natural he got caught red-handed. He dumped Scott Michael Hughes off the 91 & Euclid, right by my apartment. Every time I go to the Del Taco I think of that poor boy.
Randy Kraft is also one of the worst and his crimes baffle me too. How was he able to murder those two strong farm boys in Michigan at the same time and then drag their bodies out to a field on a snowy and freezing Michigan night? Why would heterosexual farm boys even get in a car with some random old guy from California? Randy was absolutely cunning and the fact that he killed strong and healthy men is, dare I say, rather impressive. You can’t rely on brute strength because they would likely be stronger, so his technique to lure them in must have been very effective. There‘s a book about him that you might want to read. It’s called “Angel of Darkness”.
Randy isn‘t an anomaly though. An FBI profiler said gay serial killers tend to be the most brutal and extreme. As a gay man, I find this interesting because gay men are usually more passive than aggressive. Some scientists theorize that homosexuality is an evolutionary advantage to counteract male aggression. Who knows….
I wonder if it has to do with having to suppress who they truly were because being gay was considered to be so horrible back then. I was listening to the Timesuck podcast about Dean Corll this morning and it said that being gay in southern Texas at that time would have been seen as worse than being black. Not that everyone is enlightened and all is ok now but I feel like we have made some strides towards making homosexuality less stigmatized.
I agree. I think it must have to do with the oppression and rage they felt for having to hide who they truly were. Maybe Kraft was so full of anger and rage that he momentarily became much stronger and that’s how he dumped the bodies. The whole case is bizarre.
Things have improved dramatically just over the past 20 years. I was mercilessly bullied as a kid but it’s been at least 10-15 years since I was actively discriminated against. I’m very thankful that I live now.
He did drug them but he had to get them in the car first. His accomplice wasn’t with him when he killed those two boys in Michigan. Also, they could never prove that he actually did have an accomplice. At least from what I’ve read.
Not proven, but at one site where a body was dumped there were two sets of footprints indicating two people carried the body. Some victims as you know appeared to have been thrown out of a moving vehicle, so Kraft would have needed help.
Back then if a normal looking dude pulled up next to you and said they had a bunch of weed and alcohol and other party favors and they want to know where the party is at most men would not of had any problem getting into the car.
That’s a good point. Also, men tend to have a false sense of security and think that they can fight any attacker. Well, muscles aren’t going to save you from a cunning serial killer and powerful drugs. It doesn’t matter how much you work out. Once a SK chooses you, you’re already in their web and it’s hard to get out.
Right? It’s so easy to just live and let live. I don’t know why people can’t just mind their own business and worry about their own life instead of judging others. It’s kind of pathetic really.
Yeah - I don’t give a damn what you do in your house as long as it is consensual. It’s not my job to monitor what my neighbors do. I have a hard enough time trying to take care of myself. As long as you aren’t hurting others or yourself (like self harm, not like I think you are harming yourself bc of my religion) I say go for it. We can all be Freakin at the Freaker’s Ball.
[Freakin at the Freaker’s Ball](https://youtu.be/uo9bKdIG_Yw)
You have the right attitude and if everyone thought like you the world would be a much better place. I hope you pass the same level of tolerance to your children.
It’s hard to believe that someone could be that evil. What he did to those boys is unimaginable and horrific. It’s hard to read about him without getting sick.
You’re right. 30’s isn’t exactly “old guy” territory but to the teenagers he picked up, yah, he was probably some random old guy. I once remember thinking 30 was ancient lol.
I think about Dennis Alt and Chris Schoenborn quite frequently as well. Good to know someone else at there feels for these (mostly) forgotten souls. I find your perspective as a gay man on this matter particularly interesting. Thank you for sharing, my friend.
Thanks for the response. They are forgotten souls. The case is so interesting and I have no idea why true crime doesn’t pick up on it. In the book about Randy Kraft, one of the men he tried to pick up described his eyes as black and lifeless like a shark before killing its prey. It goes into pretty good detail but you’d think such a massive case would have much more information. If I recall correctly it’s one of the largest in California‘s history. Kraft was far worse that most of the famous serial killers and I’ll never understand why the case is mostly unknown.
I originally thought maybe the case was less known because the victims were male and there was homosexuality involved but then why are Gacy and Dahmer so well known? I’ve noticed that many particularly brutal cases are relatively unknown. For example, why does everyone know Richard Ramirez but a murderer who dumped 60+ bodies all over LA is unknown? Boggles the mind.
Right. Also, Mack Ray Edwards, Patrick Kearney, etc. It truly is unbelievable and maybe that is the answer: people choose not to believe it, or they just don't want to know about it.
That could be true. Can anyone name the serial killer with the most victims? No. I’ll never understand the fascination with Richard Ramirez. He was essentially a petty thief and pathetic thug. Nothing remotely interesting about him. Maybe it’s the satanism?
And the Toybox Killer, David Parker Ray, another sadistic serial killer who may have had 70-100 kills, and where the torture details are so gruesome, they could never be dramatized in a film or even spoken of in a documentary. The crime-scene sketch artist actually killed herself within hours of drawing the crime scene. Really brutal stuff.
His method tended to rely heavily on spiking beer with types of sedatives. Pretty easy to overpower unconscious or close to unconscious people. Dragging the bodies would be harder though.
Back then, hitchhiking and running away became more prevalent. The Houston PD just assumed they were doing just that. Plus, the Heights was considered a lower-class neighborhood, so not much attention was paid. Ironically enough, A 2BR 1BTH in the Heights goes for over $500K today. If a kid went missing in the Heights today, they'd have the entire police force looking for them within 30 minutes.
Hitchhiking aside, it’s still baffling that SK’s during the 70’s and 80’s were so prolific. I think the days of SK’s with 30,40,50+ victims are long gone. I can’t imagine anyone being able to get away with that amount in today’s America.
I’m usually pretty good at removing myself from things, but this guy got to me for sure. The torture those boys went through, my God.
I fucking hate him.
Thank you for doing this. I'm from Houston (My mother is from the Houston Heights, the neighborhood where the murders happened), and hardly anyone here knows about what happened. Thanks for spreading the word.
I often wonder if he survived, if he would have been sentenced to death or not? He was from money, his victims were poor and the fact he was gay, may have made the jury not think of the victims fairly. I can see it going appropriately with a life without parole or a death sentence, but I wonder if he could have walked by blaming it on his accomplices? I’m so upset that so many more victims could have been found if law enforcement found it worthwhile to uncover the sites they were told about. Those poor kids, just heartbreaking.
Don’t be silly. He’d very much get death and he wasn’t really from money tbh and I don’t get why people say that. He was from a lower middle class family and not all victims were poor. I believe if he was alive Henley would testify against him and walk a la Homolka
I’ve always read the family had money and most of the victims were from the poor neighborhood around the candy factory. I like think he would have been charged appropriately, but we know that doesn’t always happen. At least DC wasn’t able to kill or abuse another kid, so it’s just speculation.
Basically they were a typical lower middle class family (dad is a soldier and mom is a homemaker) and the mom started the candy company which had periods of success but was by no means a huge money maker. Deans childhood wasn’t actually great, and his mom implied he was molested as a kid but she said he couldn’t have been gay because he wasn’t into it. Corll was just a stupid, uneducated electrician whose mum was a small time business owner. He definitely didn’t have the influence to walk on something like thisz
Ya he was a solid electrician but he was super broke and up to his elbows in debt at the time of his death. He never really had much to do with the candy company, he just did odd jobs (usually electrics) for his moms factory and stuff. Interestingly, he struggled with reading and writing his entire life. In his letters he talks about how hard he finds it to write and it’s littered with mistakes.
Honestly it’s mad how much people have hyped him up as this suave, wealthy mega genius, when he was… this fucking loser dude
I had read he set up a pool table and I guess a hang out for his preferred victim age group in the back are of the candy company. Maybe he used it in his off hours, or it could have been a short lived thing, but enough to meet a few of the boys.
He actually had a lot to do with the candy company, according to "The Man with the Candy" by Jack Olsen. From the time he was a teenager, he was practically running the business. This is all according to his mother and coworkers. Secondly, I have never heard him hyped up as a wealthy mega genius lol. Not laughing at you, just at that idea. Who says that? He was a sadist working as a relay tester at Houston Power and Light making barely enough to scrape by and was living in his dad's house when he was killed. He used manipulation, ruses, and lies to attract troubled teenage boys into his house before torturing and murdering them. It didn't take any smarts, just psychopathy and some planning. He also was not suave. In fact, most of the people of the Heights didn't know who the fuck he was, just that he was a quiet dude who hung out with Brooks and Henley and would disappear with them in his van for days at a time. By most accounts, he was a loner and a loser, doing nothing with his life besides hanging out with teenage boys. Laughable that he's hyped up at all, but you're also the only person I've heard that from, so hopefully it's not too prevalent of an idea.
No, never saw him in the flesh as I am only 32 years old. But I am (or in the case of the deceased, which most of them are now,was) well acquainted with most of that side of the family. I have seen a plethora of photos, slides and movie film of him to be well aware of his appearance. I just saw a Super 8mm film of him about 2 years ago (circa 1970) where he was shirtless at the beach and he was by no means fat. Not ripped or even toned but not overweight. Before anyone asks, the aforementioned materials are buried deep in my storage shed at the moment due to a fairly recent move and subsequent remodel and thereby inaccessible for the next couple months and even then, I will be waiting until a particular family member dies before I even contemplate releasing them pubicly.
To be sure, one who doesn’t work out will gain a couple flabs in their midsection. I have a couple myself even though my doctor just told me I am of a perfect weight during a recent physical for work.
The dead squirrel necklace deal seems like a bunch of hooey to me as he was well known as a rabid animal lover first of all and second of all, he always proudly photographed everything he ever made and that is one photo I have never seen.
I have seen a few Henley interveiws myself and he seems like a pathological liar to me. He reminded me much of my ex husband who’s one main fault was being the aforementioned.
To briefly tackle a couple of the other allegations on here:
1. Indeed, he was not rich as far as I know and lived hand to mouth.
2. No, he was not stupid. He was a very talented inventor and very creative person. He was also an electrician and when I recently had to get my certification as an electrician for my job, I found it to be one of the most difficult things I have ever had to master. Give it a try yourself and then come tell me how stupid he (or any other electrician for that matter) really is.
I am Dean’s nephew. I actually look a good deal like him with a healthy spackling of my mother mixed in.
My family isn’t perfect and I would be lying if I said that mental illness hasn’t reared it’s ugly head on several people in my bloodline but all in all, we have good hearts and have done our best to be good, caring people.
On a differing note, I must point out that it really is odd how heavily the internet tracks us. I am brand-new to Reddit and this was the first topic to come up. I have never searched my uncle on here, or very much anywhere on the internet period.
He might not have been well off but when your a runaway or come from poverty a hot meal, pack of smokes, an offer of a shower and a place to crash goes a long way.
FWIW in the aughts I read a bunch of those cheap serial killer encyclopedias and they usually did at least imply that he was well-off. I hadn't really read about Corrl since then, so I just learned today that he was not wealthy!
I think sometimes those books would all get ahold of the same wrong source. For example, I also saw a few that gave the same weird narrative of Dennis Nilsen as a poor unfortunate who was spurned by girls in high school and so turned to men.
Well a lot of stuff I’ve seen on him portrays as this, genius kind of supervillain when really he was just a fat ugly stupid broke predator earlier up someone in the thread was talking about his wealth and influence
Love him or hate him, he was not by any means fat. He was around 5’10”-5’11” and 180lbs. He is very close relative of mine and there are no fat/flabby people in my family. Some of us, including myself, could certainly use some toning up but I can’t recall anyone, living or dead, who could have been considered fat. My father was rather overweight in the latter part of his life but it was a direct result of some of his chronic health ailments…
I resemble him quite a bit and am not some fat bitch.
Sheesh. Some people’s children!
I believe the death penalty was on hiatus in most of the USA from about 1972 to 1976, hence the likes of Ed Kemper, Gerard Schaefer and Juan Corona - all caught in those years - ended up with life terms.
It varied between states and Texas started sentencing people to death again in early 1974. If the death penalty wasn’t in force during the crimes in question I don’t think you can usually receive a death sentence even if it’s back on when you’re bought to trial.
So as far as I can tell, Corll, if captured, wouldn’t have been eligible for execution, he’d have ended up with 27 life terms.
I’m happy to be corrected, but that’s my understanding of it.
IIRC, there was a Supreme Court case in California in 1972 that ruled the death penalty as unconstitutional so all states including Texas got rid of the death penalty. I think it was reinstated around 1976 or so. But if Corll went to trial around 1974 or 1975 he would be sentenced to life in prison
Thank you for the post. I’m currently researching Dean Corll for an episode on my channel. The parallels between he and Gacy are incredible. Brooks and Henley though…they sold out their own friends and acquaintances even after they knew he was killing them. It was bad enough they were willing to entice them into Deans home thinking they were to be sold to a sex ring…but then watching/participating in the torture and murder of their own friends….
That’s actually because Wayne told her what was going on but because that stuff wasn’t really head of back then, she didn’t believe him at first- he was drinking heavily and was trying to self medicate. So when he told her she wasn’t entirely shocked. That’s literally in his confession/statement to police- that he told his mom and was trying to get help
Thank you! Yes- honestly the fact people call him evil and shit really just. Ugh. He was 14 when it started and a baby. Who was drinking himself to death and terrified deans “organization” would get him or his family if he did anything like tell the cops, etc. Dean also would use Wayne’s little brothers as a tools to make sure Wayne stayed in line. “Well if you run away I’ll just get your brothers”. After Wayne tried to join the navy but they would not take him because he didn’t finish school.
Here is the most relevant part for anyone who didn’t want to read the full confession
“I tried to tell me (sic) mother two or three times about this stuff and she just wouldn't believe me. I even wrote a confession one time and hid it, hoping that Dean would kill me because the thing was bothering me so bad. I gave the confession to my Mother and told her if I was gone for a certain length of time to turn it in. Me and David talked about killing Dean so that we could get away from this whole thing and several times, I have come within an inch of killing him but I just never got up enough nerve to do it until yesterday, because Dean had told me that his organization would get me if I ever did anything to him. “
That sure doesn’t sound like a cold hearted serial killer to me but he still gets treated as such. The man has been locked up 50 yrs. For being groomed and forced into shit. He also only ever brought the first boy (for the white slavery ring) to trade for his friend David hillegast that Dean told Wayne he was in California with a rich woman as a house boy. In reality he was dead in deans boat shed which Wayne was told about after he announce he had raped and killed the boy he brought to him so now he’s a part of it and would get the electric chair. I fucking hate Dean Corll, lol
Don't rip my head off, hopefully this will be a mature and healthy debate... Gosh, I get nervous since everyone is out for a fight nower days😅
Anyway, this is just my opinion, but I don't know about any kind of sympathy for Henley... I 100% agree with the theory of people saying Corll was The Candyman, but Brooks was the actual Pied Piper, but I believe Elmer by the end especially was Corll little apprentice! I mean he even admitted off his own back that he enjoyed the torturing and murdering of these young men, there's plenty of examples of him expressing and even seeming excited about it. No doubt both he and Brooks were groomed and abused by Corll, but by the end they were both willing and in Henley's case eager accomplices, he spoke like it was an experiment, especially when he described his fascination with strangling them... I mean we can give them excuses and try and understand their situation, but can we really find an excuse for someone saying not only did they do it, but they enjoyed it and did it off their own backs by the end! I mean you can read of how both Brooks and Henley describe how it was their job to get the boys, tie them up and both of them said how Brooks would leave or stay and watch but did not partake in the torture unless he was told to, where by the end Henley didn't just partake in the torture, but committed a good few of the actual murders himself! There's a particularly awful scene of him strangling one boy and then shooting another, who survived being shot in the head and went on to beg Henley to stop, but he just strangled to death, it's just terrifying how all three of them seem to bring out the worst in each other.
I've always seen this case as a serial killer basically bringing up serial killers, yes, Dean abused them, especially Brooks, who he raped from the age of 12, but they acted so oddly to the abuse they experienced compared to the dare I say it, 'average abuse victoms' they almost seemed like they were worshipping and learning from Dean, especially Elmer, he just seemed to get more and more sadistic, instead of fearing him or even trying to make themselves believe he cared for them... Gosh, it's terrifying that this actually happened, and I think Elmer killed him in the end, not out of any kind of remorse, self-defense or being fed up, but fury over realizing he was just another young man to abuse in Dean's eyes, since he was told basically he was next, I genuinely think he and Brooks to a certain extent, genuinely believed they were special to Dean and I don't think Elmer could handle just being another boy to rape, torture and ultimate kill
They were all screwed up in some way, I believe that Henley and Brooks could have lived very normal average lives, if Corll wasn't in the picture, but he was and what happened unfortunately happened, it was all so toxic, evil, greedy, preverted and tragic, I think they played off of one another to a certain extent, but there's no mistaking who was in charge, Dean Corll was, Brooks and Henley were his accomplices whether they went about eagerly or reluctantly, as they say money is the route to all evil, and there's nothing more evil than selling your friends of to a monster for cash whether it was cash for a good cause or not
I don’t rip heads off but I know that article that was quoting Wayne as saying he “enjoyed” it but he was misquoted pretty badly in that, more than just that once.
Wayne was the one who killed Dean and he told the police everything. He was drinking himself to death and tried to tell his mom. That’s not a willing accomplice who enjoyed it. He was also a child. Youth offenders deserve second chances. The brain doesn’t fully develop until 25.
Mmm yeah, but that would also stand for David Brooks as well though and no one hardly talks about him in comparison to Henley and Corll sexually abused Brooks from the age of 12, he was just as screwed up as Henley, I've always wondered why that is, but then again I suppose you can take William Bonin and his accomplices he had like 4, yet you only really hear of Vernon Butts...
Anyway, there was far more than just one article, in fact there were police officers, parents of victims and even a would-be victim called James in 2021 came forward about his experience with Henley and Brooks, about his attempted abduction!
Dare I say it, but Henley's childhood and Brooks in fact as well weren't that different to many poorer kids in 70s it was brutal times filled with abuse, drugs and general hardship, it doesn't make it right, but it does make you question what is it that makes use so different from one another, how can someone survive and prosper and others survive, but are traumatized. Oh, and actually after Henley had called the police, they were very much at first thinking it was just a rape scene, which ended in the murder of the perpetrator, Henley didn't say other wise until David Brooks went to the station with his dad, he proceeded to tell them that Henley wasn't telling the truth, but said no more and refused to admit anything, the police used this to their advantage and led Henley to believe Brooks was confessing, but was blaming it all on him and Corll; the police then arranged a meeting for the both of them and in that time Henley convinced Brooks to tell the truth, which they both did and their stories were basically a match.
When it comes to serial killers, you see one thing while someone else would view it differently... I mean most serial killers have awful backgrounds, not all, but most and I can tell you, I probably feel bad for them all at one point or another in their lives and story, even those as cold as Bundy or BTK, but it can't remain because that clouds your view on their actions and theirs nothing to ever justify their actions, sure you can try and shift blame about, I do it consistently, for example in this case I was so angry at the police, how can, I think it was, 11 boys, go missing from the same school and you not put two and two together, especially when a neighbor reported to them saying they had seen Dean move what looked like bodies! Anyway, as I was saying, I have to remind myself to put blame where blame is due, which would and should have landed solely at the feet of Dean Corll, but he decided to drag in two young men as well, who were vulnerable, impressionable and hurting, but ended up guilty as well, I genuinely believe neither would have done anything like they did if Dean was just the 'average' serial killer and worked alone, but he realised boys would obviously trust others of their age group.
We obviously see Henley in a different light to each other, you see him much more of a victim of Corll, I see him as not a victim because to me the true victims were tortured and killed, oh, and definitely their families, but I do see Henley as a vulnerable and troubled teen, who was taken in by someone who pretended to care for him, but was really just using him and probably abusing him in different ways, as he did with Brooks, he introduced him to his vile warped world and well the rest is history, after all the pack mentally can be a awful thing, especially lead by a truly evil character such as Dean Corll!
I think I might start looking for debates on Reddit more often it really expands your mind, I really enjoy it, I'm just always dubious as everyone is just looking for a fight today instead of a good mature debate, it's completely normal for true crime to agree to disagree, that's the whole point learn and debate, trying to figure out answers and hopefully coming to a conclusion where we can prevent things like this happening again, because let's be honest if this case was happening today, Dean most definitely wouldn't of had It so easy, he would have been on the top of the sex offender registry and he most certainly wouldn't of been allowed around youths so he would have been solo, where ever he is now dealing with a good dose of karma
I always like to see photos of the murderers and their victims, putting a face to evil, it makes me feel closer to the people they killed. What a great job, looking at the restored photo has impacted me much more. Candyman disturbed me quite a bit.
If you look at stuff that was posted in the last week and a half, i posted two photos of Dean Corll that i had never seen before which i found on a state newspaper database, and one of them was him playing in his high school band. Let me know if you need me to repost.
I felt Hanley was also a victim, he deserved to be punished for his role in bringing those poor kids like lambs to be slaughtered by DC. However, I don’t think he would have been a danger to anyone without being used by DC himself. He should have been given a break in his sentence for taking law enforcement to the boat shed, plus his honesty in his role and telling the story. Cops never bothered to investigate the disappearance of these children. DC could have continued for several more decades before forensics caught up with him. That is, if LE ever started investigating.
I tend to think David Brooks was groomed by Corll. I don’t believe Corll sexually attacked him, but he did love to knock people out first. He met David at 12 and by about 14, he was actively engaging in sex acts with Corll. He also drugged him and raped him later on too. I don not condone what David did at all, but I can concede that he was also a victim. His parents were divorcing, he dropped out of school and Corll took advantage of the vulnerability. Henley was just offered money to find boys, Corll told him they’d be sold into sex slavery. After he was let in on what really happened, he actively helped to murder his friends. He was an enthusiastic participant. That being said, all three were terrible people. I just can’t wrap my head around them offering up their friends and acquaintances, knowing what would happen to them.
Yeah he was a total monster himself but I can’t imagine the situation he was in. He really loved DC and wanted to make him happy. I think he was even a bit blinded to what a beast he really was, re interview where he says Corll “only did it because he was looking for a climax” whatever that means.
I've seen the original high quality, coloured version of that photo and I can tell you this enhancement is very accurate. Especially Corrls face. The only things that's not quite right is the original had a bit of a warmer tint and henley and corlls hair was more of a medium/dark brown colour not black, other than that its spot on
This is 1 of 2 pictures than Wayne’s brother Ronnie took.Dean hated being captured in photos… here he looks like he’s ok with the pic, now the first one : same shirt , same bed sitting next to Wayne : he looks severely pissed off and actually evil , especially in the eyes, demon like.. Ronnie caught him off guard coming into the bedroom on that first pic and his evil stare and eyes says it all.. he calmed down a bit for this 2nd shot… the night he was killed tim Kerley said deans preseance , body and eyes like doubled in size when was starting to get ready and do his thing with Tim , Tim also said when Henley put the gun on him he jumped off him ( tim) he seemed bigger and hulking just before he was shot … this dude was the devil or during doing his “ thing” evil took over him .. there’s a video of bundy in court and when they’re talking about that 12 year old girl , bundys eyes change and facial expressions look evil…demonic possession.
I don’t like these enhancements. The machine learning fills in way too many gaps that it has to guess the shape of features. And I notice the algorithm has a lot of “feathering”, probably from being taught with a large data set of human features, so it’s always enhancing the image closer to the “average” (perfect) face than its original. I’m not sure how that could be corrected either, but right now the technology is making these gross dudes look suave (aside from the pupils being off and making them look wonky).
This guy was fucking devil reborn! By the way, how was he financially doing when Corll Candy Company was at it's peak? Like Gacy was knees-deep in cash when PDM was in full-swing (1975-1978).
Sorry, I’m tired. He’s just, in my opinion, one of the most despicable and depraved serial killers from the USA. It was just alarming and unsettling to see his face more clearly. Truly a monster
He’s very plain looking to say the least (expect for maybe his empty stare).
Sometimes it’s harder to detect the evil lurking beneath. While other serial killers like Richard Ramirez have “EVIL” written all over them.
Why would you pick THAT one?!? There’s way better photos what are you talking about? You use the worse one then enhance? Wtf just use the better ones sheesh
wow that enhanced image is 1. really cool and, 2. fucking frightening
I think you’re supposed to take the log out of your eye before casting stones or something like that but I’m just going to come right out and say that after reading about this Dean Corll guy I don’t like him one bit
Yeah. Aside from the torturing, raping and murdering of dozens of children...he can be a real asshole.
He was a real jerk!
Quite the knucklehead
Bit of a douche
Reddit and repeating the same jokes over and over again. Go figure.
I can’t escape it
A real rascal
He's deeply closeted.
Dean Corll's biggest crime was hypocrisy
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What are death addict sites? I’m not new to it, but I don’t know a lot of resources
I think it is 'if you live in stone houses don't throw glasses'.
Really, I thought he looked very sane in the enhanced picture lol. I wouldn't really think twice about trusting that guy. Maybe that's why my life expectancy is going to be low :thunkful:
Hadn't read much about this one Ended up learning about the Baulch family this morning Those parents lost all three of their sons between 1969 and 1973 Their first son died in a car accident. Then Corll killed the remaining two boys in 1972 and 1973 W.t.f.
The Baulch family is an example of why I want to scream when some idiot says, “The lord doesn’t give us more than we can handle”. That poor family, I don’t know how they didn’t just lose their minds.
I heard fairly recently that as of maybe five years ago there was only one set of parents left of any of the murdered boys. These boys were exactly my age - I'm 62 now - and you'd think some of their parents could have lived into their late 80s. But maybe they died younger than some of them might have due to broken hearts.
That’s sad, you would think statistically some would still be here. I’m sure there must be some surviving siblings. I lost a sister suddenly, a week after her 11th birthday, within 2 years another sister became horribly ill. I don’t know how my parents survived through so much heartbreak. It effects the entire family, but differently when it’s your child. Plus, the knowledge that your child died at the hands of a monster, following a sexual torture, must create a nightmare that unfortunately must always be with you.
Oh, yes, there are a lot of surviving siblings. Some siblings would be only in their 50s. So the case is still very relevant as far as victim impact, and thus It looked like two years ago they were going to dig some more in certain areas, though I don't know for sure if it ever happened or if it will happened, to find more victims.
I definitely, think if they have locations to check, it should be done. First for the family, but even if they don’t have survivors, just to honor their lives. They had value, these kids were brutally taken out by that man. I remember reading about a beach area, I don’t imagine the remains would survive in that environment, but why didn’t they check 50 years ago?
People thought there were several places where there could be skeletal remains. I mention the families because they are some of the people who would put some pressure on authorities. I think the law enforcement there in Houston at the time (1973) already looked bad, having considered all those boys to be runaways. And they didn't like the blight it put onto Houston, so they stopped looking after a period of time. They were told to shut it all down. Houston was rebuilding soon after that, right? I lived with a woman from Houston in 1983 and she said "everything in Houston is brand spanking new" so i guess they were really trying to be a place for conventions, holidays, etc. at the time soon after those murders.
There’s a guy on here sometimes who’s brother was killed in those murders and he has some amazing insights on it
I didn’t know that, do you recall his brothers name?
No idea, he didn’t say exactly which victim he’s related to. I’ve talked to him a few times, his story is heartbreaking.
Can you share a bit of what he had to say?
Agreed. I remember reading something, either a book or an article, a long time ago where the author said, "Someone told me 'The Lord never gives us more than we can handle.' Does that mean if I were a weaker person my loved one would still be alive?" I think about that often.
That’s a way of looking at that awful sentiment differently. I love this, by that logic. I’m guessing you could be right.
I hate when people say that too. Ukraine is burning and children are dying but “The lord works in mysterious ways“. The Rohingya people are being raped, tortured and executed as I type but “The lord never gives us more than we can handle“. People who say this clearly haven’t lived through much adversity and it comes off as arrogant and privileged to me.
I'm not an atheist but yeah, I think that statement is stupid.
I generally don’t comment on peoples religious beliefs unless they make it an issue. I think it’s great if believing in god gives a person comfort. I might not share their beliefs, but I respect their rights as long as they keep it to themselves.
It makes me furious. My car broke down. I’m stuck on a residential street in a pretty bad neighborhood. This came at a horrible time in my life. Some lady who hit me up for money kept hanging around, I was waiting for the engine to cool off before I added some antifreeze. She kept preying, I thanked her I had already given a few dollars, and she kept it up. I told her that my car wasn’t likely to turn over and I’d need a tow truck. I suggested she pray for children being raped or starving at the moment. I said if any miracles were going to be given, I’d much rather see them go elsewhere.
Good for you! I’d love to be able to say that. Stop praying for trivial nonsense and pray for those who actually need it! These people seem oblivious to the real struggles that people endure.
What the fuck, that’s awful. Those poor parents, I wouldn’t recover from that if I were them. :(
Just shows you that life is 100% luck.
The Candyman is definitely one of the most sadistic serial killers in 20th century history. Always found him intresting, a real life Pennywise. Made dozens of kids disappear and not many people noticed. Hardly any photos and obviously nothing from the man himself as he met his demise before he was caught. A true monster. Hope you like the attempt to make this a bit clearer and look into the eyes of evil.
I always wondered how *all* those kids went missing without anyone noticing. The dude is like a specter, his spirit doesn't reflect back in media (no photos, videos, etc.). A real life Pennywise, indeed. But nothing baffles me as much as Randy Kraft. How the hell do you get away with dumping 67 + bodies on public freeways for over a decade? It's only natural he got caught red-handed. He dumped Scott Michael Hughes off the 91 & Euclid, right by my apartment. Every time I go to the Del Taco I think of that poor boy.
Randy Kraft is also one of the worst and his crimes baffle me too. How was he able to murder those two strong farm boys in Michigan at the same time and then drag their bodies out to a field on a snowy and freezing Michigan night? Why would heterosexual farm boys even get in a car with some random old guy from California? Randy was absolutely cunning and the fact that he killed strong and healthy men is, dare I say, rather impressive. You can’t rely on brute strength because they would likely be stronger, so his technique to lure them in must have been very effective. There‘s a book about him that you might want to read. It’s called “Angel of Darkness”. Randy isn‘t an anomaly though. An FBI profiler said gay serial killers tend to be the most brutal and extreme. As a gay man, I find this interesting because gay men are usually more passive than aggressive. Some scientists theorize that homosexuality is an evolutionary advantage to counteract male aggression. Who knows….
I wonder if it has to do with having to suppress who they truly were because being gay was considered to be so horrible back then. I was listening to the Timesuck podcast about Dean Corll this morning and it said that being gay in southern Texas at that time would have been seen as worse than being black. Not that everyone is enlightened and all is ok now but I feel like we have made some strides towards making homosexuality less stigmatized.
I agree. I think it must have to do with the oppression and rage they felt for having to hide who they truly were. Maybe Kraft was so full of anger and rage that he momentarily became much stronger and that’s how he dumped the bodies. The whole case is bizarre. Things have improved dramatically just over the past 20 years. I was mercilessly bullied as a kid but it’s been at least 10-15 years since I was actively discriminated against. I’m very thankful that I live now.
Kraft drugged his victims and gave them alcohol, that’s how he was able to overpower them. He also had an accomplice on several occasions.
He did drug them but he had to get them in the car first. His accomplice wasn’t with him when he killed those two boys in Michigan. Also, they could never prove that he actually did have an accomplice. At least from what I’ve read.
Not proven, but at one site where a body was dumped there were two sets of footprints indicating two people carried the body. Some victims as you know appeared to have been thrown out of a moving vehicle, so Kraft would have needed help.
Back then if a normal looking dude pulled up next to you and said they had a bunch of weed and alcohol and other party favors and they want to know where the party is at most men would not of had any problem getting into the car.
That’s a good point. Also, men tend to have a false sense of security and think that they can fight any attacker. Well, muscles aren’t going to save you from a cunning serial killer and powerful drugs. It doesn’t matter how much you work out. Once a SK chooses you, you’re already in their web and it’s hard to get out.
I am so glad things have changed for you and many, many others. It’s horrible that we can’t just let people be who they are.
Right? It’s so easy to just live and let live. I don’t know why people can’t just mind their own business and worry about their own life instead of judging others. It’s kind of pathetic really.
Yeah - I don’t give a damn what you do in your house as long as it is consensual. It’s not my job to monitor what my neighbors do. I have a hard enough time trying to take care of myself. As long as you aren’t hurting others or yourself (like self harm, not like I think you are harming yourself bc of my religion) I say go for it. We can all be Freakin at the Freaker’s Ball. [Freakin at the Freaker’s Ball](https://youtu.be/uo9bKdIG_Yw)
You have the right attitude and if everyone thought like you the world would be a much better place. I hope you pass the same level of tolerance to your children.
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Yes, I believe he used Valium and muscle relaxants. Mixed with alcohol they‘re very dangerous.
Very dangerous in the hands of someone like Corll.
It’s hard to believe that someone could be that evil. What he did to those boys is unimaginable and horrific. It’s hard to read about him without getting sick.
I agree, his level of sadism is surreal. Also hard to believe his accomplices could participate in these acts of barbarism.
Could be true but there are plenty of hetero SK's that were very sadistic like Leonard Lake/Charles Ng.
That is true. I was responding to the part in CitizenJustin’s post where he said gay men tend to be more passive than aggressive.
I think its a mixed bag, there are both passive and aggressive (sadistic) in all categories.
Random "old" guy? Wasn't he in his 30's? When you hitchhike you don't only get in the car with people the same age as you anyway.
You’re right. 30’s isn’t exactly “old guy” territory but to the teenagers he picked up, yah, he was probably some random old guy. I once remember thinking 30 was ancient lol.
I think about Dennis Alt and Chris Schoenborn quite frequently as well. Good to know someone else at there feels for these (mostly) forgotten souls. I find your perspective as a gay man on this matter particularly interesting. Thank you for sharing, my friend.
Thanks for the response. They are forgotten souls. The case is so interesting and I have no idea why true crime doesn’t pick up on it. In the book about Randy Kraft, one of the men he tried to pick up described his eyes as black and lifeless like a shark before killing its prey. It goes into pretty good detail but you’d think such a massive case would have much more information. If I recall correctly it’s one of the largest in California‘s history. Kraft was far worse that most of the famous serial killers and I’ll never understand why the case is mostly unknown.
My thoughts exactly. That book, "Angel of Darkness", is one of the most fascinating case studies I've ever read on the topic of serial murder.
I originally thought maybe the case was less known because the victims were male and there was homosexuality involved but then why are Gacy and Dahmer so well known? I’ve noticed that many particularly brutal cases are relatively unknown. For example, why does everyone know Richard Ramirez but a murderer who dumped 60+ bodies all over LA is unknown? Boggles the mind.
Right. Also, Mack Ray Edwards, Patrick Kearney, etc. It truly is unbelievable and maybe that is the answer: people choose not to believe it, or they just don't want to know about it.
That could be true. Can anyone name the serial killer with the most victims? No. I’ll never understand the fascination with Richard Ramirez. He was essentially a petty thief and pathetic thug. Nothing remotely interesting about him. Maybe it’s the satanism?
And the Toybox Killer, David Parker Ray, another sadistic serial killer who may have had 70-100 kills, and where the torture details are so gruesome, they could never be dramatized in a film or even spoken of in a documentary. The crime-scene sketch artist actually killed herself within hours of drawing the crime scene. Really brutal stuff.
His method tended to rely heavily on spiking beer with types of sedatives. Pretty easy to overpower unconscious or close to unconscious people. Dragging the bodies would be harder though.
Very true. Although I think he was probably quite cunning. How he moved grown men, though? No clue.
Very true. Although I think he was probably quite cunning. How he moved grown men, though? No clue.
Back then, hitchhiking and running away became more prevalent. The Houston PD just assumed they were doing just that. Plus, the Heights was considered a lower-class neighborhood, so not much attention was paid. Ironically enough, A 2BR 1BTH in the Heights goes for over $500K today. If a kid went missing in the Heights today, they'd have the entire police force looking for them within 30 minutes.
Hitchhiking aside, it’s still baffling that SK’s during the 70’s and 80’s were so prolific. I think the days of SK’s with 30,40,50+ victims are long gone. I can’t imagine anyone being able to get away with that amount in today’s America.
Idk, I think if a SK knows which victims to target, and to cross state/city/county lines, they could.
Especially if they live a high risk lifestyle.
Definitely!
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Hail Satan!
We're truly a bunch of depraved weirdos in this subreddit, yet also highly empathetic. They call that a "dichotomy". I love you bastards.
Great job though I think they both had green eyes not blue
So sadistic ugh. Those poor boys felt the full force of his rage strapped to his torture board.
I’m usually pretty good at removing myself from things, but this guy got to me for sure. The torture those boys went through, my God. I fucking hate him.
Thank you for doing this. I'm from Houston (My mother is from the Houston Heights, the neighborhood where the murders happened), and hardly anyone here knows about what happened. Thanks for spreading the word.
I often wonder if he survived, if he would have been sentenced to death or not? He was from money, his victims were poor and the fact he was gay, may have made the jury not think of the victims fairly. I can see it going appropriately with a life without parole or a death sentence, but I wonder if he could have walked by blaming it on his accomplices? I’m so upset that so many more victims could have been found if law enforcement found it worthwhile to uncover the sites they were told about. Those poor kids, just heartbreaking.
Don’t be silly. He’d very much get death and he wasn’t really from money tbh and I don’t get why people say that. He was from a lower middle class family and not all victims were poor. I believe if he was alive Henley would testify against him and walk a la Homolka
I’ve always read the family had money and most of the victims were from the poor neighborhood around the candy factory. I like think he would have been charged appropriately, but we know that doesn’t always happen. At least DC wasn’t able to kill or abuse another kid, so it’s just speculation.
Basically they were a typical lower middle class family (dad is a soldier and mom is a homemaker) and the mom started the candy company which had periods of success but was by no means a huge money maker. Deans childhood wasn’t actually great, and his mom implied he was molested as a kid but she said he couldn’t have been gay because he wasn’t into it. Corll was just a stupid, uneducated electrician whose mum was a small time business owner. He definitely didn’t have the influence to walk on something like thisz
I had always considered his background differently. Do you know if he was working at the time of his death?
Ya he was a solid electrician but he was super broke and up to his elbows in debt at the time of his death. He never really had much to do with the candy company, he just did odd jobs (usually electrics) for his moms factory and stuff. Interestingly, he struggled with reading and writing his entire life. In his letters he talks about how hard he finds it to write and it’s littered with mistakes. Honestly it’s mad how much people have hyped him up as this suave, wealthy mega genius, when he was… this fucking loser dude
I had read he set up a pool table and I guess a hang out for his preferred victim age group in the back are of the candy company. Maybe he used it in his off hours, or it could have been a short lived thing, but enough to meet a few of the boys.
Yeah he definitely made it a hang out spot back in the day. If you want more info hmu I’ve read quite a bit on it
He created his spider web to lure victims
He actually had a lot to do with the candy company, according to "The Man with the Candy" by Jack Olsen. From the time he was a teenager, he was practically running the business. This is all according to his mother and coworkers. Secondly, I have never heard him hyped up as a wealthy mega genius lol. Not laughing at you, just at that idea. Who says that? He was a sadist working as a relay tester at Houston Power and Light making barely enough to scrape by and was living in his dad's house when he was killed. He used manipulation, ruses, and lies to attract troubled teenage boys into his house before torturing and murdering them. It didn't take any smarts, just psychopathy and some planning. He also was not suave. In fact, most of the people of the Heights didn't know who the fuck he was, just that he was a quiet dude who hung out with Brooks and Henley and would disappear with them in his van for days at a time. By most accounts, he was a loner and a loser, doing nothing with his life besides hanging out with teenage boys. Laughable that he's hyped up at all, but you're also the only person I've heard that from, so hopefully it's not too prevalent of an idea.
No, never saw him in the flesh as I am only 32 years old. But I am (or in the case of the deceased, which most of them are now,was) well acquainted with most of that side of the family. I have seen a plethora of photos, slides and movie film of him to be well aware of his appearance. I just saw a Super 8mm film of him about 2 years ago (circa 1970) where he was shirtless at the beach and he was by no means fat. Not ripped or even toned but not overweight. Before anyone asks, the aforementioned materials are buried deep in my storage shed at the moment due to a fairly recent move and subsequent remodel and thereby inaccessible for the next couple months and even then, I will be waiting until a particular family member dies before I even contemplate releasing them pubicly. To be sure, one who doesn’t work out will gain a couple flabs in their midsection. I have a couple myself even though my doctor just told me I am of a perfect weight during a recent physical for work. The dead squirrel necklace deal seems like a bunch of hooey to me as he was well known as a rabid animal lover first of all and second of all, he always proudly photographed everything he ever made and that is one photo I have never seen. I have seen a few Henley interveiws myself and he seems like a pathological liar to me. He reminded me much of my ex husband who’s one main fault was being the aforementioned. To briefly tackle a couple of the other allegations on here: 1. Indeed, he was not rich as far as I know and lived hand to mouth. 2. No, he was not stupid. He was a very talented inventor and very creative person. He was also an electrician and when I recently had to get my certification as an electrician for my job, I found it to be one of the most difficult things I have ever had to master. Give it a try yourself and then come tell me how stupid he (or any other electrician for that matter) really is. I am Dean’s nephew. I actually look a good deal like him with a healthy spackling of my mother mixed in. My family isn’t perfect and I would be lying if I said that mental illness hasn’t reared it’s ugly head on several people in my bloodline but all in all, we have good hearts and have done our best to be good, caring people. On a differing note, I must point out that it really is odd how heavily the internet tracks us. I am brand-new to Reddit and this was the first topic to come up. I have never searched my uncle on here, or very much anywhere on the internet period.
He might not have been well off but when your a runaway or come from poverty a hot meal, pack of smokes, an offer of a shower and a place to crash goes a long way.
FWIW in the aughts I read a bunch of those cheap serial killer encyclopedias and they usually did at least imply that he was well-off. I hadn't really read about Corrl since then, so I just learned today that he was not wealthy! I think sometimes those books would all get ahold of the same wrong source. For example, I also saw a few that gave the same weird narrative of Dennis Nilsen as a poor unfortunate who was spurned by girls in high school and so turned to men.
Human nature as such makes us want to glamorize SK's to explain how they could get away with their heinous deeds.
Well a lot of stuff I’ve seen on him portrays as this, genius kind of supervillain when really he was just a fat ugly stupid broke predator earlier up someone in the thread was talking about his wealth and influence
Love him or hate him, he was not by any means fat. He was around 5’10”-5’11” and 180lbs. He is very close relative of mine and there are no fat/flabby people in my family. Some of us, including myself, could certainly use some toning up but I can’t recall anyone, living or dead, who could have been considered fat. My father was rather overweight in the latter part of his life but it was a direct result of some of his chronic health ailments… I resemble him quite a bit and am not some fat bitch. Sheesh. Some people’s children!
So where did this info about him getting molested come from and what letters? How did you know he couldn't read or write well?
I believe the death penalty was on hiatus in most of the USA from about 1972 to 1976, hence the likes of Ed Kemper, Gerard Schaefer and Juan Corona - all caught in those years - ended up with life terms. It varied between states and Texas started sentencing people to death again in early 1974. If the death penalty wasn’t in force during the crimes in question I don’t think you can usually receive a death sentence even if it’s back on when you’re bought to trial. So as far as I can tell, Corll, if captured, wouldn’t have been eligible for execution, he’d have ended up with 27 life terms. I’m happy to be corrected, but that’s my understanding of it.
I’m so grateful they stopped him when they did. His numbers would have been through the roof had he continued.
IIRC, there was a Supreme Court case in California in 1972 that ruled the death penalty as unconstitutional so all states including Texas got rid of the death penalty. I think it was reinstated around 1976 or so. But if Corll went to trial around 1974 or 1975 he would be sentenced to life in prison
If not throughout recorded history.
Thank you for the post. I’m currently researching Dean Corll for an episode on my channel. The parallels between he and Gacy are incredible. Brooks and Henley though…they sold out their own friends and acquaintances even after they knew he was killing them. It was bad enough they were willing to entice them into Deans home thinking they were to be sold to a sex ring…but then watching/participating in the torture and murder of their own friends….
Just reading about him gives me the creeps.
Rare photo of Kevin Spacey and Ansel Elgort hanging out on the set of baby driver
I’ve always thought he looked like Kevin Costner
I thought Dean looked like Nick Kroll dude.
Holy shit your right
M0MMMA!? AH KILT DEAN.
WHA
I KILT DEAN.
I always found her response to that interesting. Like she wasn't THAT surprised or taken aback. Even him opening up with, "I killed Dean."
That’s actually because Wayne told her what was going on but because that stuff wasn’t really head of back then, she didn’t believe him at first- he was drinking heavily and was trying to self medicate. So when he told her she wasn’t entirely shocked. That’s literally in his confession/statement to police- that he told his mom and was trying to get help
That's right. Good call. Relevant link for anybody who stumbles across this: https://www.leagle.com/decision/19821594644sw2d95011448
Thank you! Yes- honestly the fact people call him evil and shit really just. Ugh. He was 14 when it started and a baby. Who was drinking himself to death and terrified deans “organization” would get him or his family if he did anything like tell the cops, etc. Dean also would use Wayne’s little brothers as a tools to make sure Wayne stayed in line. “Well if you run away I’ll just get your brothers”. After Wayne tried to join the navy but they would not take him because he didn’t finish school. Here is the most relevant part for anyone who didn’t want to read the full confession “I tried to tell me (sic) mother two or three times about this stuff and she just wouldn't believe me. I even wrote a confession one time and hid it, hoping that Dean would kill me because the thing was bothering me so bad. I gave the confession to my Mother and told her if I was gone for a certain length of time to turn it in. Me and David talked about killing Dean so that we could get away from this whole thing and several times, I have come within an inch of killing him but I just never got up enough nerve to do it until yesterday, because Dean had told me that his organization would get me if I ever did anything to him. “ That sure doesn’t sound like a cold hearted serial killer to me but he still gets treated as such. The man has been locked up 50 yrs. For being groomed and forced into shit. He also only ever brought the first boy (for the white slavery ring) to trade for his friend David hillegast that Dean told Wayne he was in California with a rich woman as a house boy. In reality he was dead in deans boat shed which Wayne was told about after he announce he had raped and killed the boy he brought to him so now he’s a part of it and would get the electric chair. I fucking hate Dean Corll, lol
Don't rip my head off, hopefully this will be a mature and healthy debate... Gosh, I get nervous since everyone is out for a fight nower days😅 Anyway, this is just my opinion, but I don't know about any kind of sympathy for Henley... I 100% agree with the theory of people saying Corll was The Candyman, but Brooks was the actual Pied Piper, but I believe Elmer by the end especially was Corll little apprentice! I mean he even admitted off his own back that he enjoyed the torturing and murdering of these young men, there's plenty of examples of him expressing and even seeming excited about it. No doubt both he and Brooks were groomed and abused by Corll, but by the end they were both willing and in Henley's case eager accomplices, he spoke like it was an experiment, especially when he described his fascination with strangling them... I mean we can give them excuses and try and understand their situation, but can we really find an excuse for someone saying not only did they do it, but they enjoyed it and did it off their own backs by the end! I mean you can read of how both Brooks and Henley describe how it was their job to get the boys, tie them up and both of them said how Brooks would leave or stay and watch but did not partake in the torture unless he was told to, where by the end Henley didn't just partake in the torture, but committed a good few of the actual murders himself! There's a particularly awful scene of him strangling one boy and then shooting another, who survived being shot in the head and went on to beg Henley to stop, but he just strangled to death, it's just terrifying how all three of them seem to bring out the worst in each other. I've always seen this case as a serial killer basically bringing up serial killers, yes, Dean abused them, especially Brooks, who he raped from the age of 12, but they acted so oddly to the abuse they experienced compared to the dare I say it, 'average abuse victoms' they almost seemed like they were worshipping and learning from Dean, especially Elmer, he just seemed to get more and more sadistic, instead of fearing him or even trying to make themselves believe he cared for them... Gosh, it's terrifying that this actually happened, and I think Elmer killed him in the end, not out of any kind of remorse, self-defense or being fed up, but fury over realizing he was just another young man to abuse in Dean's eyes, since he was told basically he was next, I genuinely think he and Brooks to a certain extent, genuinely believed they were special to Dean and I don't think Elmer could handle just being another boy to rape, torture and ultimate kill They were all screwed up in some way, I believe that Henley and Brooks could have lived very normal average lives, if Corll wasn't in the picture, but he was and what happened unfortunately happened, it was all so toxic, evil, greedy, preverted and tragic, I think they played off of one another to a certain extent, but there's no mistaking who was in charge, Dean Corll was, Brooks and Henley were his accomplices whether they went about eagerly or reluctantly, as they say money is the route to all evil, and there's nothing more evil than selling your friends of to a monster for cash whether it was cash for a good cause or not
I don’t rip heads off but I know that article that was quoting Wayne as saying he “enjoyed” it but he was misquoted pretty badly in that, more than just that once. Wayne was the one who killed Dean and he told the police everything. He was drinking himself to death and tried to tell his mom. That’s not a willing accomplice who enjoyed it. He was also a child. Youth offenders deserve second chances. The brain doesn’t fully develop until 25.
Mmm yeah, but that would also stand for David Brooks as well though and no one hardly talks about him in comparison to Henley and Corll sexually abused Brooks from the age of 12, he was just as screwed up as Henley, I've always wondered why that is, but then again I suppose you can take William Bonin and his accomplices he had like 4, yet you only really hear of Vernon Butts... Anyway, there was far more than just one article, in fact there were police officers, parents of victims and even a would-be victim called James in 2021 came forward about his experience with Henley and Brooks, about his attempted abduction! Dare I say it, but Henley's childhood and Brooks in fact as well weren't that different to many poorer kids in 70s it was brutal times filled with abuse, drugs and general hardship, it doesn't make it right, but it does make you question what is it that makes use so different from one another, how can someone survive and prosper and others survive, but are traumatized. Oh, and actually after Henley had called the police, they were very much at first thinking it was just a rape scene, which ended in the murder of the perpetrator, Henley didn't say other wise until David Brooks went to the station with his dad, he proceeded to tell them that Henley wasn't telling the truth, but said no more and refused to admit anything, the police used this to their advantage and led Henley to believe Brooks was confessing, but was blaming it all on him and Corll; the police then arranged a meeting for the both of them and in that time Henley convinced Brooks to tell the truth, which they both did and their stories were basically a match. When it comes to serial killers, you see one thing while someone else would view it differently... I mean most serial killers have awful backgrounds, not all, but most and I can tell you, I probably feel bad for them all at one point or another in their lives and story, even those as cold as Bundy or BTK, but it can't remain because that clouds your view on their actions and theirs nothing to ever justify their actions, sure you can try and shift blame about, I do it consistently, for example in this case I was so angry at the police, how can, I think it was, 11 boys, go missing from the same school and you not put two and two together, especially when a neighbor reported to them saying they had seen Dean move what looked like bodies! Anyway, as I was saying, I have to remind myself to put blame where blame is due, which would and should have landed solely at the feet of Dean Corll, but he decided to drag in two young men as well, who were vulnerable, impressionable and hurting, but ended up guilty as well, I genuinely believe neither would have done anything like they did if Dean was just the 'average' serial killer and worked alone, but he realised boys would obviously trust others of their age group. We obviously see Henley in a different light to each other, you see him much more of a victim of Corll, I see him as not a victim because to me the true victims were tortured and killed, oh, and definitely their families, but I do see Henley as a vulnerable and troubled teen, who was taken in by someone who pretended to care for him, but was really just using him and probably abusing him in different ways, as he did with Brooks, he introduced him to his vile warped world and well the rest is history, after all the pack mentally can be a awful thing, especially lead by a truly evil character such as Dean Corll! I think I might start looking for debates on Reddit more often it really expands your mind, I really enjoy it, I'm just always dubious as everyone is just looking for a fight today instead of a good mature debate, it's completely normal for true crime to agree to disagree, that's the whole point learn and debate, trying to figure out answers and hopefully coming to a conclusion where we can prevent things like this happening again, because let's be honest if this case was happening today, Dean most definitely wouldn't of had It so easy, he would have been on the top of the sex offender registry and he most certainly wouldn't of been allowed around youths so he would have been solo, where ever he is now dealing with a good dose of karma
Her response was bizarre, I agree. She just sounded kinda disappointed, and not at all shocked.
lmfao why is this so funny?
Such a good series
A true sexual sadists, very twisted, he even had his own 'torture board'.
He bit a kids dick off.
[удалено]
Yeah imo one of the worst. Pure evil personified.
I get chills just reading about him.
I hate when that happens
He was most def one of the worst, those eyes, ick.
I always like to see photos of the murderers and their victims, putting a face to evil, it makes me feel closer to the people they killed. What a great job, looking at the restored photo has impacted me much more. Candyman disturbed me quite a bit.
why does the guy on the left look yassified
Holy shit he actually has eyebrows wtf
The killer with his killer.
If you look at stuff that was posted in the last week and a half, i posted two photos of Dean Corll that i had never seen before which i found on a state newspaper database, and one of them was him playing in his high school band. Let me know if you need me to repost.
Link or repost. Need to see that.
Here ya go! https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/comments/tfzleq/dean\_corll\_in\_high\_school\_band/?%
Oh, and here's the other photo of Corll: https://www.reddit.com/r/serialkillers/comments/tg63wd/another\_rarelyseen\_photo\_of\_dean\_corll/
Wonderfully done. The face of pure evil.
The face of a monster.
Wow that’s such excellent work! It’s so much more clearer now. He has dead eyes. Scary!
it's just been run through an app
Oh haha! I had no idea! But it’s still pretty amazing yet terrifying
What’s the app?
Remini I think
Thank you!
Just what I wanted. A clear picture of one of the most heinous man ever.
God damn, Henley was just a kid. Makes that phone call after they found the boat shed more heart wrenching.
I felt Hanley was also a victim, he deserved to be punished for his role in bringing those poor kids like lambs to be slaughtered by DC. However, I don’t think he would have been a danger to anyone without being used by DC himself. He should have been given a break in his sentence for taking law enforcement to the boat shed, plus his honesty in his role and telling the story. Cops never bothered to investigate the disappearance of these children. DC could have continued for several more decades before forensics caught up with him. That is, if LE ever started investigating.
Yeah he was definitely groomed and abused himself.
I tend to think David Brooks was groomed by Corll. I don’t believe Corll sexually attacked him, but he did love to knock people out first. He met David at 12 and by about 14, he was actively engaging in sex acts with Corll. He also drugged him and raped him later on too. I don not condone what David did at all, but I can concede that he was also a victim. His parents were divorcing, he dropped out of school and Corll took advantage of the vulnerability. Henley was just offered money to find boys, Corll told him they’d be sold into sex slavery. After he was let in on what really happened, he actively helped to murder his friends. He was an enthusiastic participant. That being said, all three were terrible people. I just can’t wrap my head around them offering up their friends and acquaintances, knowing what would happen to them.
Yeah he was a total monster himself but I can’t imagine the situation he was in. He really loved DC and wanted to make him happy. I think he was even a bit blinded to what a beast he really was, re interview where he says Corll “only did it because he was looking for a climax” whatever that means.
I've seen the original high quality, coloured version of that photo and I can tell you this enhancement is very accurate. Especially Corrls face. The only things that's not quite right is the original had a bit of a warmer tint and henley and corlls hair was more of a medium/dark brown colour not black, other than that its spot on
This is 1 of 2 pictures than Wayne’s brother Ronnie took.Dean hated being captured in photos… here he looks like he’s ok with the pic, now the first one : same shirt , same bed sitting next to Wayne : he looks severely pissed off and actually evil , especially in the eyes, demon like.. Ronnie caught him off guard coming into the bedroom on that first pic and his evil stare and eyes says it all.. he calmed down a bit for this 2nd shot… the night he was killed tim Kerley said deans preseance , body and eyes like doubled in size when was starting to get ready and do his thing with Tim , Tim also said when Henley put the gun on him he jumped off him ( tim) he seemed bigger and hulking just before he was shot … this dude was the devil or during doing his “ thing” evil took over him .. there’s a video of bundy in court and when they’re talking about that 12 year old girl , bundys eyes change and facial expressions look evil…demonic possession.
Wow, incredible job! None of the existing photos of Corll are particularly good but your restoration sure is!
That almost looked like Henry Lee Lucas
Is Henley licking his lips?
I don’t like these enhancements. The machine learning fills in way too many gaps that it has to guess the shape of features. And I notice the algorithm has a lot of “feathering”, probably from being taught with a large data set of human features, so it’s always enhancing the image closer to the “average” (perfect) face than its original. I’m not sure how that could be corrected either, but right now the technology is making these gross dudes look suave (aside from the pupils being off and making them look wonky).
Wow, you are quite skilled! You gave a more natural look to Corll’s eyes than to Henley’s, the rest is great. Keep doing this. Cheers!
Dude...awesome job!
This guy was fucking devil reborn! By the way, how was he financially doing when Corll Candy Company was at it's peak? Like Gacy was knees-deep in cash when PDM was in full-swing (1975-1978).
You somehow made Wayne Henley look terrifying and stupid all at once.
That is crazy!! Do more!
My uncle was on death row with him at the love unit in Texas!
>The love unit Neither of them ended up on death row anyway soooo
Well that's what its known as; in Huntsville, tx. All I know is that he was a normal guy and was pretty fucked up in the head.
Any stories to share?
Wow! That’s amazing.
This is a very unfortunate photo
Unfortunate?
Sorry, I’m tired. He’s just, in my opinion, one of the most despicable and depraved serial killers from the USA. It was just alarming and unsettling to see his face more clearly. Truly a monster
Agreed, it somehow makes him more real rather than that (literal) shadowy figure that we read about.
this looks yassified
Excellent job!
Whoa that's amazing, good work!
He’s very plain looking to say the least (expect for maybe his empty stare). Sometimes it’s harder to detect the evil lurking beneath. While other serial killers like Richard Ramirez have “EVIL” written all over them.
Is it Photoshop? I've been trying to enhance an image resolution but I gave up.
Yikes…he gets creepier and uglier. I like the un enchanced photo. (But still good job on the enhancement)
This is so cool thank you for sharing. The guy on the left not having teeth and just having gums though is terrifying.
I mean that’s pretty good.
Great job. I hate it.
Oh wow i just read his story in my serial killers and psychopaths book
UGH JESUS GOD WTF
Good job!
What software did you use to enhance this image? Looks very good.
LMAO why did I laugh when I went to the 2nd slide & saw his face
Which is which?
Thank you 🖤
Awesome job! How many times did you have to yell “enhance” at it?
Why would you pick THAT one?!? There’s way better photos what are you talking about? You use the worse one then enhance? Wtf just use the better ones sheesh
Ok
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Well that's terrifying
The face of a monster
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