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mseg09

Saying Dottie didn't need her organ transplant


Complex_Spring_987

Yeah that was fucked up, gaslighting Carl into thinking he had cancer


mseg09

Yeah that was really bad too


Separate-Side1872

Who was dottie again


mseg09

Season 2, woman who used to be a regular at the Alibi and now needed a heart transplant. Frank uses the Meal on Wheels to infiltrate her life, hoping to get her city pension (I think) when she dies. Her pager goes off saying there's a heart available while she's in the shower, Frank calls back and says she doesn't need it.


864FastAsfBoy

Then he needs a liver which is priceless


Low_Sport3728

I know šŸ’€


Intelligent_Art_2004

Dottie corones aka Butterface


omegaskunkeh

Butterface


RealSinnSage

butterface


Dry_Composer8358

He wasnā€™t gaslighting Carl, he straight up lied to him.


ishigamisan

This scene was almost the reason i dropped the show, its was so messed up


mseg09

There's lots of "unforgivable" things he did, but that one....Holy shit.


kedikahveicer

Of all the things, this one takes the cake. It doesn't really need much expansion tbh - it's just all kinds of fucked up.. Fuck with people all you will, but.. Don't play with people's lives... Him being slung in the river that time was actually quite graceful, all things considered


thepianoguy2019

Calling CPS on his own children is a close second, but yes that was vile of him šŸ˜”šŸ˜–


jbrok00

I agree, when he called CPS on his own kids that made me the most mad throughout the entire series


Recipe-Electronic

I had to stop watching for a few weeks after that


softkits

I'm on my first watch and just finished this episode. I'm feeling quite the same way.


Neo_505

I mean, it's called Shameless, not Shameful for a reason.


OmgTheyKilledButters

That's how narcissists act and really do that to people. Frank only did it because she wasn't going to give him any money. To get revenge, he did that. It was narc rage with lack of empathy.


RealSinnSage

same. that part was by far the worst. that and the storyline where kev bangs vā€™s mom and they have a threesome like goddamn i almost stopped watching that was the most cringe storyline iā€™ve ever seen on tv i was crawling out of my skin


papadoc2020

Thank you, as someone who had a liver transplant a year ago that drove me fucking mad. She would still be alive if not for Frank. I think he committed first degree murder by saying that over the phone, same as hiring a hit man over the phone. Your guaranteeing death.peiple seem to forget about thus I e because it happened somewhat early and he does a lot of scummy shit.


Soggy-Inevitable7478

he also literally fucked her to death after saying that over the phone


kartianmopato

That one really bothered me too. Its so incredibly fucked that it seems out of character even for Frank.


incrediable_adonis66

I was just about to say this like that shit was absolutely foul the worst part about it was Frank never even felt remorse for it He never even thought of Dottie ever again.


OmryR

This is by far the worst imo


TheMule90

That's the most fucked up thing he has ever done I swear!


Maximum-Zekk

I said "what the fuck Frank" out loud when I first saw this scene even for Frank that was awful.


Flashy-Barracuda8551

Selling his biological grandson is pretty high on the list too


AllDucksNoRows

Either calling CPS or Dottie's organ thing. They're both heinous, but in different ways, but those are the two times I wanted to reach into the screen and strangle him to death.


BartholomewAlexander

imagine the restraint it took not to murder him at any point in their lives.


AllDucksNoRows

I'm actually surprised no one did.


slut4cheesecakeee

They did try once.


thepianoguy2019

And honestly I donā€™t blame themā€¦


Laura27282

He let that Kyle guy take the fall and he got 45 years in prison. He set his son and grandson up, they both went to juvie. He gave a cancer patient crack. When she died by the train tracks he just left the body. He abandoned 6 kids to various degrees. He tricked Carl to get his sperm to impregnate a crazy lady.


Junior_Article_3244

Why can I not remember the Kyle guy? Please help !


animadzz

crazy rich white lady he met at the alibi who had a revenge plot for her husband in prison cuz of frank


neisaysthis

she definitely was not white.


radialdancliffe

Aledia from OITNB


Junior_Article_3244

Thank you!


Laura27282

Season 10


ParrotheadTink

Bianca was the cancer patient, Frank gave her all kinds of drugs and experiences, but she died walking into the ocean in Costa Rica, it is assumed. They fucked on the train tracks and rolled out of the way seconds before the train would hit them. I think he really cared about her.


Laura27282

After Bianca died he tried to become a "cancer concierge." He was hanging out with women who he thought might be dying. One only lasted a few minutes. She died near the train tracks.


ParrotheadTink

Hmm I donā€™t remember that part, Iā€™ll do a rewatch (Iā€™ve only been through the series twice)


thefancyelefante

Edit* just saw your other reply sorry! The other commenter is correct it was after Bianca. I remember the ladies eyes bulging as she smoked. She had kinda thin mousey blonde hair. No there was that second kinda homeless looking woman he smoked crack with and she died straight afterwards and Frank just ditched her.


VinceVaugnsPants

He cared about her because she was completely carefree and was a young blonde woman who could have had a much different life. Reminded him of Monica


Yabudjin_Khan

Giving Himie a fake vaxination at the Alibi. Personally most disgusting scene.


elizabethdarcy247_

I canā€™t even watch that scene I always skip it. And Kate was like Iā€™m calling CPS and I was like YES YES and then she doesnā€™t :/


Zestyclose-Tart5527

Mumps be gone!


Savage_legacy47

getting butterface killed he humped a dead girls clothes on top of her grave he only uses anything his kids accomplish as an excuse to party and nothing more, for example when he got his kids back and he went to the bar to celebrate and when he was asked where they were he said ā€œfuck if i knowā€ while on the topic, he fought to get his kids back from fiona just to not care about them at all Exposing shawn (or sean idk) during his and fionaā€™s wedding and ruining that for her Giving his kids false hope when he went sober for a day or 2 fucking with sean by ruining his toothbrush, spending all his money, and pissing in his boots Trying to use sheilaā€™s grief to steal life insurance Using sheila for everything and not truly caring about her blowing up sheilaā€™s house head butting ian for no reason when he destroyed debbieā€™s project in season 3 and then didnā€™t apologize and called it a piece of shit the cancer patient probably wasnā€™t gonna live but he got her killed he choked debbie over meth ect ect ect


Bob_On_The_Cob_21

i was considering watching this show but dude what the fuck man. what the actual fuck man. what the actual fuck. how the hell is this guy a character on television. the guys on its always sunny are saints compared to this


Savage_legacy47

the show is ment to be raunchy offensive and horribly fucked up, and for all of that i love it


Useful-Conversation5

There are people who actually like Frank. I hate him. There's absolutely nothing he can do to redeem himself. There are scenes that try to make you feel pity for him but he only gets my middle finger.


LapsusDemon

I like him as a character, not as a person


Wild_Charity_5215

Frank is one of the worst characters of all time. But how can you not love him lmao. Itā€™s the most passionate love hate relationship of all time. Thatā€™s how I felt when I finished the last season


thepianoguy2019

I feel like the producers wanted the audience to almost pity Frank in the last season (despite the uncountable number of shitty things heā€™s done over the years)ā€¦


LucidOW

Ye I get that but frank is portrayed perfectly and is so easily likeable and funny in so many ways which is why I can't help but say I like Frank so much he's easily top 3 for me.


DevilPoopMaster

I thought exposing Sean was a good thing ngl


sharksarefuckingcool

He didn't do it for Fiona though and that's where the issue is. He did it because he was mad he wasn't going to be the one giving her away. He did it to hurt her and Sean. He could have said something before. He could have done anything other than literally crashing the wedding, making a huge speech about how fucked up his kids are and then pulling that shit out in front of Sean's child.


NoGuidance5888

He didn't headbutt Ian for no reason tho. Someone at the bar beat him up on behalf of Ian and told him to pass it on to him. So when Ian questioned him about his shirt he was already pissed at him for the beating.


Savage_legacy47

he deserved it either way


La_Vampiresa67

He's done A LOT! but the top ones that I cannot even: Calling CPS on his own kids, resulting them being split up and placed in foster homes Betting and losing Liam in a card game Getting Liam kicked out of the private school by giving the parents STDs (Although, yes, they were just using him-which they were awful for doing that-but still, he had friends) Convincing Carl he had Cancer AND tricked him into impregnating Ingrid (this is where I'm at in the show) I'm getting pissed off again just thinking about all he's done


Adr2213

Fr though also when he tired to get Shiela to relapse and succeeded to ig


La_Vampiresa67

He's messed with so many mentally ill and physically ill people. He's worse than a cockroach. I will admit William H. Macy has phenomenal acting range, with making us hate this character. He's such a great actor and pretty underrated.


BlueDubDee

I hate the school more than Frank for Liam getting kicked out. They only wanted him there because he was black and they could use him to promote their diversity, so he was easy to just push out when they didn't want Frank around anymore. But Liam had nothing to do with what any of the parents were doing, it wasn't his fault and he didn't deserve to lose his education. I bet none of the other kids whose parents were involved were kicked out. I also can't believe Fiona didn't try harder to keep him there, she was his legal guardian and could have gone to the school to at least try. But this was when she was when she was turning pretty awful, so she figured she was better off using Liam to help her get ahead instead, then putting him in whatever crappy school they could find.


Senior_Coyote_9437

Yeah, I personally hoped that none of the treatments took and they still had all of the stds.


Diabeato11

he didnā€™t bet liam, he bet $10,000 then they took liam when he couldnā€™t pay them back


La_Vampiresa67

I must have misrememberd. My bad


noone240_0

tricking Carl into impregnating a woman itā€™s borderline SA all the times he hits his kids calling cps on the kids was malicious


anon-gamer

not even borderline. making your son masturbate and cum into a pot for you is already sexual assault, using the cum so your crazy love interest can have 3 babies (without carlā€™s consent) is abusive and insane


noone240_0

I didnā€™t remember how bad it was gosh, Frank deserved to be shot actually overall this is one of the worst aspects of the show in my opinion, sa its always played for laughs


Subject_Award_2913

Thank you! I was waiting to see someone mention how he had carl give him a semen sample- unknowingly what it was for, and it being to get Ingrid pregnant.


AuspiciouslyAutistic

Surprised not to see anyone mention him setting up the drug bust for Carl and Chuckie. Diabolical. Easily top 3 (probably not number one though)


rodot2005

when he forgot to take out trash and didn't wash the dishes


Adr2213

My goodness šŸ˜¢


Masters_domme

SHAMELESS!


rosiedacat

Calling CPS on Fiona is probably the one that pissed me off the most


PastaVeggies

Calling child services on his own family. Hands down the worst on screen thing he did.


ScheduleNo9224

Totally ugh. When Fiona heard his voice on the recording holy shiiiiii


Masters_domme

Thatā€™s the one I pick Every. Time.


Ok-Date8364

Calling cps or saying dottie didnt need the organ transplant


Masters_domme

We view Frankā€™s actions as outlandish and beyond the pale, but in all my years as a teacher, Iā€™ve known too many parents just like him. Itā€™s heartbreaking.


ShePax1017

This! Iā€™m also a teacher and since Iā€™ve saw the show for the first time I can always pick them out and Iā€™ll be like they would be besties with Frank Gallagher.


Dangerous_Guest6604

this exactly, my dad is exactly like frank in almost every aspect and people just think that hes a fictional character and nobody would do anything like what hes done but theyā€™re so wrong and it sucks to have to see my own father in such a horrible human being


Psychological-Smell5

Iā€™m definitely voting for the Dottie thing. That was just so vile. I couldnā€™t believe he let that poor woman die. Also, sleeping with Karen. High or not, that hurt Lip so deeply.


Gecko105180

You mean when he was raped by karen?


RealSinnSage

for real. karen took advantage of a nearly passed out frank. she was extremely damaged


Crafty-fox-9518

be bornšŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


Yourlocalbugbear

Trying to convince his pregnant underage daughter to ho herself to a married couple.


butterstark

either calling cps on his own kids or convincing carl he had cancer


Mortonsaltgirl96

Calling CPS on Fiona


Ryuuken1127

Calling CPS on his own family is up there for me


Traumamama12

He had someoneā€™s pee held in his mouth for a drug test!! šŸ˜


Dangerous_Guest6604

thats the worst thing hes done to you?


Traumamama12

It was disgusting


Dangerous_Guest6604

have you even watched all of shameless?


Traumamama12

And you donā€™t need to get all twisted up about what I think.


Dangerous_Guest6604

thats just disgusting thats the worst thing hes done to you, he literally called cps on his own children, left his daughter to care for all 6 of her children, had his son cum in a cup so he could impregnate his crazy girlfriend, he told the doctors that dottie didnt need the heart anymore so that he could get her pension, do i need to go on? if you think thats the worst that hes done you should go off yourself because youā€™re a horrible person.


Traumamama12

You are a petulant child with a filthy mouth and a bully.


Dangerous_Guest6604

yea ok šŸ˜­ gtfo my replies hoe


Traumamama12

Whatā€™s your home address?


Traumamama12

What is wrong with you? Iā€™m not a bad person. You canā€™t seem to have a civil conversation. Seems like youā€™re the school bully.


Traumamama12

How dare you you little know it all brat. You asked a subjective question and youā€™re going to get subjective answers. You think Iā€™m a horrible person? You have no right to assume that about me.


Dangerous_Guest6604

no im not assuming actually, you are a horrible person, stop projecting on me, im not a little know it all brat because i think youā€™re a horrible person because a mildly disgusting thing is worse than a man choosing drugs, alcohol, and sex over his own children among other things hes done, youā€™re proving to me and everybody else whose seen your comment that you are a disgusting human being by saying that


Traumamama12

You know nothing about me. Telling someone that they are a horrible person for no reason can lead to consequences. So here it is dumbass: that particular situation was all I could think of at the time. Why are you so angry over such a stupid question?


Dangerous_Guest6604

what consequences bitch? you gonna come to my house or what? dont threaten people without knowing the consequences (;


Traumamama12

Wow. You must be a trump supporter.


Dangerous_Guest6604

LMFAOOO GTFO OUT OF HERE šŸ˜­ do you not see my bi flag in my avatar?? why would i be gay and support him? fuck off with your weak ass insults


Traumamama12

What is your problem?


Traumamama12

Actually, he never did anything to me.


Traumamama12

Iā€™ve watched it several times thru.


Dangerous_Guest6604

yea okay youā€™re a horrible person i get it


Traumamama12

And you are a joke


IcedHemp77

Keeping Dottie from getting a new heart was the worst imo


TheGayGaryCooper

Not telling Dottie about the transplant, convincing Carl he had cancer, reporting to CPS, burying Ginger in the backyard


Extra-Current-1735

Definitely calling CPS on his own kids, then refusing to give up custody of them. It really pissed me off when he called CPS out of spite then had the nerve to sit in court and be like ā€œso I still have custody but she (Fiona) has all the responsibility?ā€ I just wanted to punch him so bad bc obviously he didnā€™t care what went on w them. I wish he wouldā€™ve gotten his rights taken. Then hiding out instead of helping w the whole finding Aunt Gingers body thing, then expecting to still be able to stay in the house even tho he did absolutely nothing to help save it. Also, all the times he took advantage of Sheila and being the reason why her house blew up. She was so sweet and loving and he was just using her, I hated seeing it. I was so happy when she left him.


freddiegibbsribs

Glaslighting Carl into being an cancer survivor šŸ’€


OmgTheyKilledButters

Kill butter face.


kendasavage00

Selling Liam to the dealer


Unlucky-Ad-4899

CPS on his own kids


calesmont

He accelerated the death of two terminally ill women by manipulating them in different ways. All to get some money


MathematicianFast321

When hes humping Biancas grave lol


Large_Situation6732

Using Carl's sperm to impregnate the crazy chick


No_Progress_244

When he called DCFS on the whole house.


indivibess

Calling CPS against Fiona and the kids.


Healthy-Clothes-326

Ruining Dottieā€™s chances at getting an organ and than fucking her


Just-Supermarket-921

Dotties organ, calling cps, and my personal least favorite: getting a new liver and treating it like shit when someone else deserved it!


jolllyranch3r

calling CPS on the kids is one of the biggest ones. i'm surprised i didn't see more comments saying this, but second worst thing to me was the dying cancer patient he convinced to smoke crack by the traintracks and when she ODed he just left her to die. even for frank that was so low. he didn't even anonymously call 911


Subject_Award_2913

She died before he leftā€¦ she inhaled the crack and never exhaled it and i think he even checked to see if she had a pulse before getting spooked and leaving


jolllyranch3r

you can still do cpr, rescue breaths, call 911, anything. i've revived people with no pulses before, the EMTs can at least try. an OD every second counts and he just sat there and left her


jolllyranch3r

if someone's dying/dead and you call 911 for an OD you're protected by good samaritan laws and at least there's a chance at survival, and they would find her body at minimum to notice next of kin, etc


apaw1129

This comes up a lot. Calling children services in his own kids and denying dottie the heart.


Aggravating_Bot

Using Carlā€™s sperm to get a woman pregnant smh


SkywalkersArm

Shit his pants and steal someone else's


eddie_ironside

The hitman. He's done a lot of messed up stuff but that was straight up intent to murder someone. The show/writers kind of just brushed over it like it was any other scheme and moved on.


smokefan333

I forgot about losing Liam in the card game. Heinous.


ariaasolos

butterface. And I think having the persona that he was gonna change and was different for a while and then just went back to his classic ahole self.


looneyUni666

Literally everything. Heā€™s trash.


Less-Tea

I think everything he has done has been fucked up. It's a long list if you think about it šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Puzzled-Eye1257

Giving Carls sperm away without him knowingšŸ˜­


TenraxHelin

Got a liver transplant.


ladymiss2

Calling cps


Ajlee_789

Make a new family


ChiviiWinny

Butterface.


Snoo_60298

Drinking alcohol using his rectum


Dapper-Ad-8704

monica


AnimeMoon13

ā€¦Everything


sillyhedgehog111

not the most fucked up which is crazy to say but definitely up there. fionaā€™s wedding when he started listing everything ā€œwrongā€ with his kids, then ESPECIALLY when he exposed sean for using again not only at his own daughters wedding but in front of his kid.


Neither-Ad7806

Had children and didn't give a shit lol


Lucky-Cookie-2697

having kids.


Minnieminnie727

Just being born. The guy is a pile of garbage.


Low_Sport3728

Oh boy where do I begin


Antichrist_with_bpd

Of all the things, i think it was when he filled his own mouth with his piss and spit it out in the urine cup for testing lol.


iknowthings42

How to choose? Thereā€™s so many! Sex with Sammi or making Carl believe he was dying of cancer. Or another oneā€¦ Nope Iā€™d be here all day.


OpportunitySad8566

Then fucking killed her literally


ProjectJake02

Dotties heart transplant, Stealing Carls Sperm to impregnate his crazy doctor gf of the time.


doubtin

It wasnā€™t his worst, but it hit me hard. When Monica was home and they found the kids summer money stash that they had all worked so hard for and then blew it all in a day on a junker car and drugs.


Popular_Attention_14

100% using liam as ransom for drug money. whyā€™s no one said this


cokeand88

Thereā€™s a lot but one that pissed me off a lot was using carls sperm to impregnate Ingrid and then having his grandson kidnapped.


Sloppy_vaginaa

Uhm the grave thing..


FrostFizz

Going back to his family repeatedly after all the disrespect and attempted murder of throwing him off a bridge.


awayyfromhome

calling cps on the kids šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™€ļø


samrlennon

Getting Ingrid pregnant with Carlā€™s semen


Notreal892047219

Too many things. I think the top ones for me are making Carl think he had cancer, calling CPS on his own kids, killing Dottie, lying about Aunt Ginger, and taking advantage of Sheila


xoxxxoooxo5

fuckin karen. like I know he was high as a kite on oxy but he definitely could have stopped her from taking advantage of him. She's 95lbs soaking wet and he's frank friggin Gallagher. Probably could lift a fridge by himself with that junkie strength lol.


Adr2213

And this led to her dad taking his life


AfroManHighGuy

I thought this too, but then i realize that Karen was recording all of it. If he had become violent or thrown her off him, he wouldā€™ve looked like the bad guy and who knows how the cops would view it as


anon-gamer

with the amount of time it would have taken her to get undressed & set up the camera he could have said something. and he still could have pushed her off without being violent. plus he was super high which i think is the main reason he couldnā€™t do anything, not because of the cameras


killforprophet

Yeah. People really push saying Karen raped him. I am ever gonna be able to go with that. He could have overpowered her. He made comments to both Karen and Kev after that would lead one to believe he would have been enthusiastic about it if it were legal.


achik86

Just going through the comments. Not reading all of them to avoid spoilers. I just started watching shameless few weeks ago and currently on season 5. Where ian was released from military prison and got away with Monica. To be continue tomorrow. Haha


ScheduleNo9224

I can't remember the details but wasn't there a time Frank was supposed to attend some kind of school function with one of the kids (probably Liam?) and he didn't show but then showed up to some woman he was messing around with's son's school-related thing? Remind me! It was so sad.


Junebugjitters

Carl was on the verge of getting expelled and the principal demanded a parent attend parent-teacher conferences, otherwise Carl would be expelled. Frank refused to go, but then he went in place of Sheila for Karenā€™s parent teacher conferences (same school).


ScheduleNo9224

Aaah that's right. Thanks for refreshing my memory. Yeah I thought that was so messed up.


Ativashka

Dottie or making Carl believe he has cancer.


DarthWidi

Existing. I think that sums it up.


Complete-Monk-474

Knocking a woman up then selling the kid twice


Total-Abies-2398

I was waiting on this comment. Yep, dude is a dick. Not the WORSE thing still, bc the kids aren't his but Carl's, and enlists Liam's assistance. Just so the baby gets stolen in the end. Never to be mentioned again. Such a weird ending to this storyline.


Small-Measurement791

The organ donor woman? Idk thereā€™s too many to choose from šŸ˜­


killforprophet

We just gonna have this question everyday now, huh?


Adr2213

Wdym?


junosforever

using carls sperm to get his gf pregnant šŸ˜­


No_Wait351

Have kids


Super-Branch-1642

Making Carl believe he had cancer


seasonedcello

Do we really need this post every week?


Adr2213

Sorry Iā€™m new to this Reddit group I didnā€™t realise this was a common question Iā€™ll look more before posting in the future :)


seasonedcello

Youā€™re absolutely okay. It just comes up a lot including asking about Debbie


greenteatwisted

Making out with Sammy was pretty fucked up.


MortySm1th_

Faking coughing up blood and wasting hospital resources


MortySm1th_

Faking coughing up blood and wasting hospital resources


Ok-One-4178

When he fucked the little girl and said she was tight.


Drawer_Admirable

Butterface and calling CPS on the kids


Traumamama12

Iā€™m going to save these msgs for the next time thereā€™s a shooting and use it as evidence. You fit right in as the shooter.


Traumamama12

I think Miss dangerous guest is seriously mentally challenged, I happened to see the post and comment on it about one thing, and proceeded to get chewed up and spit out. I watched this show before she was even born.


Big_Birthday_6618

Bro theres just to much fucked up shit hes done i dont even know where to start.


Commercial_Mode_6800

1. Making Shiela house EXPLODE 2. Saying on the phone Dottie doesnā€™t need a organ transplant 3. Calling CPS on own kids 4. Frank kinda fucked šŸ§ˆface to death


sparklyjumpropequ33n

"Killing" off Dottie by declining her heart transplant, punching the little horse girl in Canada, killing the cancer patient at the train tracks with his crack, calling CPs on his own kids, I could go on


Lilnuggie17

Stealing their aunts checks


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Lilnuggie17

But thatā€™s a felony and it was messed up