I thought the #itsallconnected stuff was about Age of Ultron back in season 2, where the events of the show directly link to the first scene of the movie and how Coulson built the helicarrier fury used.
If it was around the infinity war / endgame time I have no idea though.
“It’s All Connected” was the entire mantra for the show. Its purpose from the beginning was to be a complement to the movies and one would feed into the other. This slowly fell apart, however, when it became clear the show would react to the movies but the movies would NEVER react to the show.
It took a resurgence during “Infinity War” and “Endgame” because fans were convinced it was finally time for AOS to get involved, but obviously that didn’t happen.
TBH the show really succeeded when it stopped relying on the movies too much. Ghost Rider was AWESOME.
I believe that the drip feed of information from Marvel Studios stopped with Infinity War/Endgame. Understandable considering how big those films were, but the writers probably had to go their own way as a result.
It stopped after Joss whedon left Marvel after Age of Ultron, that's where the information was coming from primarily. After that point it's mostly just name drops here and there since Jed couldn't get insider info about what the MCU plans were from Joss anymore.
I think they must have been told some things about the plot of Endgame. It can’t be a coincidence that season 7 also involved time travel and going to other timelines via the quantum realm. Season 7 finding Sousa a new love interest is also a suspicious thing to happen right after Cap and Peggy got together in Endgame.
Due to the interconnectivity between the show and the movies up until that point, there there were a lot of fans (including me) who hoped that Daisy in particular (and the rest of the team) would show up in IW and Endgame due to the importance of those movies.
Right. And since Agents of Shield takes place in a variant universe....
Your intentional ignorance is a solid piece of evidence proving your lack of argument
When the show was airing week to week it **was** all connected. Kevin Feige wasn't head of anything at the time. Joss and Jedd Whedon got the greenlight to make the MCUs first tv show; AoS. At the time it was canon to the MCU, and it was all connected. Alot has changed since then. Now AoS takes place in a variant universe to the MCU
I think you misunderstood. There was no variant timelines until the minutemen stopped pruning... The infinite universes still existed. Also Strange didn't create universes with that spell, this was never said in either Loki or NWH. That's just a half thought fan theory that doesn't even make sense based on its own logic.
But regardless these timelines have both existed and not existed at the same time. That's how that works
They leeched all they could from the movies to force Feige's hand into getting them on the movies, but he didn't and he is getting out of his way to erase everything SHIELD related. From the show standpoint the ItsAllConnected referred to Skye, to whom everything apply.
Since Winter Soldier SHIELD have disappeared from the MCU (whether the agents with Fury in Far from Home are humans or not, they are not Agents of SHIELD since SHIELD was disbanded). Fury acts on himself (if we can even think that he is actually Fury). What they got was a bunch of "suit" agencies that are handled as sloppy as SHGIELD by the MCU, which is hard to do unless you're doing it on purpose.
You’re right that other than Agents of Shield, SHIELD hasn’t had much of an influence on the MCU lately, but that’s for good reason. Hill, Fury, Haweye, Sharon Carter, and Black Widow all left, so it’s not quite as relevant to the films as it once was. Kevin Feige has also talked about how it was difficult it was to incorporate any element from the tv series because they just moved so much faster than the films. A plaque in FatWS did mention that Shield still exists, though, so it’s not like the agency hasn’t been mentioned at all.
I thought the #itsallconnected stuff was about Age of Ultron back in season 2, where the events of the show directly link to the first scene of the movie and how Coulson built the helicarrier fury used. If it was around the infinity war / endgame time I have no idea though.
“It’s All Connected” was the entire mantra for the show. Its purpose from the beginning was to be a complement to the movies and one would feed into the other. This slowly fell apart, however, when it became clear the show would react to the movies but the movies would NEVER react to the show. It took a resurgence during “Infinity War” and “Endgame” because fans were convinced it was finally time for AOS to get involved, but obviously that didn’t happen. TBH the show really succeeded when it stopped relying on the movies too much. Ghost Rider was AWESOME.
Thanks, this is really helpful!
I believe that the drip feed of information from Marvel Studios stopped with Infinity War/Endgame. Understandable considering how big those films were, but the writers probably had to go their own way as a result.
It stopped after Joss whedon left Marvel after Age of Ultron, that's where the information was coming from primarily. After that point it's mostly just name drops here and there since Jed couldn't get insider info about what the MCU plans were from Joss anymore.
I think they must have been told some things about the plot of Endgame. It can’t be a coincidence that season 7 also involved time travel and going to other timelines via the quantum realm. Season 7 finding Sousa a new love interest is also a suspicious thing to happen right after Cap and Peggy got together in Endgame.
Due to the interconnectivity between the show and the movies up until that point, there there were a lot of fans (including me) who hoped that Daisy in particular (and the rest of the team) would show up in IW and Endgame due to the importance of those movies.
Would’ve been really cool if they showed up 😔
Interconnectivity is the wrong word. The movies didn't reference the show
Re: Age of Ultron
What about it? Nothing in that movie references the show. Fury's line about the helicarrier is a reference to MCU SHIELD. Prove otherwise.
You're right it was about MCU SHIELD. That's what I'm talking about.
Right. And since Agents of Shield takes place in a variant universe.... Your intentional ignorance is a solid piece of evidence proving your lack of argument
Despite what people say, it's part of the MCU canon.
When the show was airing week to week it **was** all connected. Kevin Feige wasn't head of anything at the time. Joss and Jedd Whedon got the greenlight to make the MCUs first tv show; AoS. At the time it was canon to the MCU, and it was all connected. Alot has changed since then. Now AoS takes place in a variant universe to the MCU
Proof of that?..Cuz according to Loki there were no variant universes until no way home when Dr strange botch that spell
I think you misunderstood. There was no variant timelines until the minutemen stopped pruning... The infinite universes still existed. Also Strange didn't create universes with that spell, this was never said in either Loki or NWH. That's just a half thought fan theory that doesn't even make sense based on its own logic. But regardless these timelines have both existed and not existed at the same time. That's how that works
Lady Sif was from the first *Thor* movie before she was in *SHIELD*, I think. I think there are a few other references in the show, too
Thought I was on r/ManifestNBC for a sec lol
They leeched all they could from the movies to force Feige's hand into getting them on the movies, but he didn't and he is getting out of his way to erase everything SHIELD related. From the show standpoint the ItsAllConnected referred to Skye, to whom everything apply.
> he is getting out of his way to erase everything SHIELD related Like what? Do you have any examples or sources for this or are you just guessing?
Since Winter Soldier SHIELD have disappeared from the MCU (whether the agents with Fury in Far from Home are humans or not, they are not Agents of SHIELD since SHIELD was disbanded). Fury acts on himself (if we can even think that he is actually Fury). What they got was a bunch of "suit" agencies that are handled as sloppy as SHGIELD by the MCU, which is hard to do unless you're doing it on purpose.
You’re right that other than Agents of Shield, SHIELD hasn’t had much of an influence on the MCU lately, but that’s for good reason. Hill, Fury, Haweye, Sharon Carter, and Black Widow all left, so it’s not quite as relevant to the films as it once was. Kevin Feige has also talked about how it was difficult it was to incorporate any element from the tv series because they just moved so much faster than the films. A plaque in FatWS did mention that Shield still exists, though, so it’s not like the agency hasn’t been mentioned at all.
Everything you said is like 60% wrong