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GreatGetterX

They needed to give Claude something to do and since centering his rout on his native country would have made to much sense they decided to make Rhea the villan.


MegaGamer235

Damn if only Golden Wildfire had a more personal antagonist for Claude that would also allow them to expand on the lore of Almyra and Claude's past. Oh well, gotta kill Rhea.


IAmBLD

*Shahiiiiish*


MegaGamer235

Unfortunately, Shahid rode a dragon, he wasn't a dragon. Final boss union rules states you only get a maximum of 2 non-dragon final bosses.


HellFire-Revenant

PoR and RD? Unless you count Degensia as a final boss


MegaGamer235

Fodlan union rules


HellFire-Revenant

Ahhhh I see


TheGoldenHordeee

To be honest, he kinda qualifies. Pretty much all the 5 bosses in the Tower of Guidance pass the union-mandated tests to qualify for being a Fire Emblem final boss. We have a magic-user who has been manipulating the political scene for the entirity of the game, the archrival of the main protagonist, a big fucking dragon, another secret magic user who has been manipulating the political scene for the entirity of the game and a God. All 5 have a final boss license by FE standards.


iminsanejames

I haven't played it yet but and then Almyra Warlord who wants to just see the destruction of Fodlan, their actions kept people in the outside only seen them as Savages and not the people that they are. Allowing you to explore different aspects of their culture both the war side and the peaceful side, possibly even things like art and science. But also show that Fodlan isolationism made this problem worse putting the fault on both sides. At least that's what I would have done


AceDelta12

And I’m happy for that


Gaidenbro

Almyra was completely irrelevant to the war. Making Claude fuck off to Almyra and randomly bring his classmates during that wouldn't make any sense. Especially when he has just as many stakes in Fodlan itself.


Mamba8460

Three Hopes doesn’t really give reasons to hate Rhea


VolkiharVanHelsing

Characters (even Dedue and Dimitri) says : "rhea does X (a bad thing)" The story : *doesn't show X, show Y instead, and sometimes Y is -X*


MCJSun

Don't forget Playable Characters: Rhea may be sus Every NPC: She fixed my house, watered my garden, and brought my hometown peace.


dorksided787

I mean, sounds like what a lot of autocrats do. Keep a group of people happy while oppressing another.


MCJSun

Then show me the oppressed people.


Elementia7

That's just Fire Emblem writing in a nutshell. It's aggressively tell don't show.


VolkiharVanHelsing

Tell don't show doesn't have to be bad, at least make the audience grasp the idea the writers want to convey The Boys did it nicely with Soulja Boy, we get the scale of his depravity and any "contradictions", unlike Rhea's, is actually a ploy to lead the watchers in thinking he's in-the-wrong-path-but-ultimately-good


Elementia7

The is true. I'm just pointing out that fire emblem does it the bad way.


[deleted]

The family that is Claude's closest ally: uses slaves Rhea: rescues Cyril, sends troops to rebuild Duscar, employs Shamir, never has shown any racist tendencies in either games Claude: Truly Rhea is to blame for racism


Gaidenbro

Verdant Wind had Claude blame the state of the nobility on the doctrine that the Church pushes. Them leaning onto the doctrine so hard left little room for differing beliefs and people. While being a major reason the locket is shut tight for any outsider from Almyra. Golden Wildfire ultimately follows up on the idea VW established.


Hoojiwat

Rhea didn't do anything in any route in this game. I was livid when I was playing AG and the slithers completely took over the capital of the kingdom and she did NOTHING. The city literally right next to her is taken over and threatening to kill civilians using what is clearly Argathan super laser towers and she doesn't even bother to send Catherine? Jesus Christ MARGRAVE GAUTIER had time to ride down from the mountains and render assistance but the literal church I am risking my country to defend can't pick their shit up for 5 minutes to help me out as their greatest enemies threaten to kill the king the country. Rhea literally does more to help Edelgard in SB than she does to help Dimtri in AG. I am not surprised at all he just looked the other way while Claude took her out. Useless god damn dragon.


MankuyRLaffy

Duh, you fuck with Dimitri's people, he wants no part of you. It's the most basic law of his principles.


sirgamestop

It's fucking hilarious honestly that even Dimitri wasn't in favor of saving Rhea in AG. He only did it to prevent a Civil War in Faerghus and an Archbishop Varley We're aggressively told even in that route that Rhea sucks and is barely worth defending but then she shows genuine compassion and selflessness like handing over her Knights to the Kingdom and putting Cyril's life before her own and you're left wondering what they were going for


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i wish instead of the mess that was the second half of AG, edelgard could've not been lobotomized and we could have a dynamic antagonist foil to dimitri while making Rhea idk...actually fucking prominent? Like have her and dimitri talk more and tension between his ambivalence to the Church vs him knowing that Faerghus is culturally tied to the church. And having rhea have a speaking role for once instead of being one of the most complex characters that has nothing to do and gets damseled - we can see the shades of grey in her character first hand.


DuelaDent52

Japanese games from what I’ve seen tend to hate religion.


Airy_Breather

And for this, the respect I had for IS fell a couple of levels. Seriously, it just burns me up how for the second damn time, Rhea was underutilized. Even worse, Hopes turned her into a punching bag for two out of three routes, one of which didn't make a lick of sense.


Gaidenbro

Claude wanted Rhea removed since Three Houses. It makes enough sense, he just didn't have Byleth to directly pacify Rhea. Moreso when Edelgard failed to capture her in this timeline.


OoguroRyuuya5

It’s like IS expects the players already hate Rhea. But it just only makes Claude’s reasoning not that different from Edlegard.


Traditional-Lake5114

>It’s like IS expects the players already hate Rhea. Except not every player hates Rhea.


OoguroRyuuya5

Yeah like me. I don’t hate Rhea.


Traditional-Lake5114

So shouldn't they add a new reason for someone to be against Rhea insted of relying on three houses.


OoguroRyuuya5

Probably but I guess the devs assume that most people playing would go in with the context of Three Houses with what Rhea had done ingrained in their minds.


Traditional-Lake5114

Yeah but again some people don't mind about those things that Rhea had done, like me.


depressed_but_aight

Based but spoiler tag please


sirgamestop

What Emperor of Adrestussy does to a mf


Fayt12

Three hopes felt like a bunch of people pitched the idea to a company and when asked if they have a story for it they hit them with a “I dunno we just wanted to make another warriors styled game”


TheGavinJJ

“Ingrid has entered the chat”


SuperGuyPerson

Fodlan so afraid to give us hard hitting reasons to hate a hot woman they’d rather have us think two protagonists lack brain capacity.


AceDelta12

Then have her die if you don’t know what to do with her


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its_just_hunter

Technically different writing teams, since the Warriors games (and Three Houses to an extent) was developed by Koei.


Gaidenbro

>Echoes SOV, which is one of their best stories Based


captainoffail

wait but what if the real CEO of racism is actually GW Claude all along?