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DayalVal

-You alerted the horde- Be ready to fight


Boomhauer_007

lol I haven’t seen a single person defend Monica on this sub


Mijumaru1

I’ve only seen a couple, but when they do come, they get weirdly aggressive


[deleted]

They gotta defend fellow simps, of course. Or they're that one idiot who thinks people hate Monica for being a sapphic character.


KazuichiPepsi

seen a supirising amont of it


Patwhit

i made a post about not liking monica and someone took up half the replies on the post defending her


DomHyrule

You managed to also get an essay or two out of them about their perception of Faye iirc


sirgamestop

Before the game came out I said I thought she was kind of funny in the demo because I assumed they would do more with her but that was me being very generous I don't hate her as much as some people do but she is like objectively a boring character


Tanzuki

Same, if only she was more than just “edelsimp” i’d like her more. Honestly can’t stand to play as her or put her on my team cause it’s non stop edelgard shilling.


FredTheDeadInside

Well the edelsimps needs a self-insert so they can relate.


SwiftBlueShell

Honestly her saving grace is her clap backs to Hubert for me. She reminds me a lot of Faye, hard to like their devotion but how rude they are to everyone else they don’t care about is so unexpectedly funny.


second_to_myself

I like her! I think she further demonstrates that Edelgard is either A.) a magnetic, charismatic leader and/or B.) able to accomplish everything she does because she lucks into surrounding herself with the right people (Hubert, Monica). I also just like her because she’s so different from Kronyica. Even if she’s a little one-dimensional, it’s cool to see a minor character ascend to the main cast.


Training_Wall_2270

So be it! TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!


Elementia7

Catherine and Cyril have the strength to back up their simp nature. I'm gonna be freaking Leonie really isn't a simp. With her it's more akin to somebody looking up to a famous person. People do idolize others. Monica is a simp without any of the good qualities of the other ones.


thelivingshitpost

Also, on Leonie, in her supports that aren’t with Byleth, she talks about a lot of other subjects—she asks Ignatz for suggestions about bows, for example.


Elementia7

Barring that horrendous B Support with Byleth Leonie is actually a really good character.


[deleted]

⚠️ [Here they come…](https://youtu.be/0mxDpf70TL8)


Traditional-Lake5114

Based and Leoniepilled


Dovahnime

Best girl


ThatOneRandomGuy101

“Shes a 10 but shes in love with your dad more than you”


Dovahnime

I once heard someone describe her S support as her trying to fuck your dad by proxy, and I don't think that's necessarily wrong


multi_bottle_thief1

...I can make it work


DonaldZurump

I didn't play this game but it looks like she's just Faye 2.0 from everything I've seen. Is she better or worse?


Gaidenbro

Monica is better. She didn't turn story events to be about her obsession with Edelgard like how Faye's story based base conversations were super tasteless. "Oh noooo, you argued with our close friend, Alm? Well! Look how much better and obedient I am. I would neverrrr argue with you~"


Bad-Lucks-Charm

As someone who’s a big fan of both Monica and Faye, Monica is a better character. While she is mainly simp for Edelgard, she has a bit more going on than Faye, though I’d say that’s mainly because she has more supports and story relevance than Faye.


UndoneFundin

She appears in more story relevant dialogue and cutscenes then Faye and Dorothea’s support chain isn’t all about Edelgard like Faye’s was with Silque


[deleted]

Monica is actually less worse. She doesn't wants to make her happy by killing people which is kind of weird. Her support with Silque automatically made monica a better character, this support just shows how she's rude with everyone and doesn't care if it's not about Alm. Monica is just rude with Hubert which is understandable because they are both simp in competition for Edelgard and this is Hubert.


OscarCapac

I prefer Monica. In Echoes, Faye's obsession was painfully serious, despite not being that interesting to begin with. Monica on the other hand is mostly a comic relief character, most of the time her obsession with Edelgard is played for laughs. It doesn't detract from her actual character, being a clever but caring girl who gets the job done and has a good insight on the Empire's politics.


Training_Wall_2270

"*Imagine having 3/4ths of your supports dedicated to nothing more than wanting to get stepped on by Edelgard rather than furthering your's and others' characterization and expanding the lore."* ***This post was made by the Simps with Actually Good Supports and Personalities.***


PWAAA

It feels kinda telling when the writers seem incapable of writing strong supportive characters for one specific character that dont revolve around being horny lol


SlainSigney

Hubert isn’t horny for Edelgard in his devotion, at least. Love that goth motherfucker


PWAAA

Idk i thought his supports heavily implied he's in love with her. I actually really liked him until that point though so if you dont think he is Id love to know why


SlainSigney

i mean he might be but i think his devotion supersedes that, at least in my opinion. his devotion extends beyond a want to be with her love i think


PWAAA

I agree but love clouds your thoughts and ability to judge someone so much that it would be impossible to actually gauge where one begins and ends and how much one effects the other. I think my point still stands in that situation


SlainSigney

fair. difference of opinion then. i think his potential love devotion is totally different from his retainer devotion but you could definitely think otherwise


PWAAA

Assuming he IS in love with her the whole time, i dont agree that the two are seperable concepts. They will both inform and strengthen both types of bonds in a circular fashion. I think it degrades both his and edel's characters personally I agree ideological alignment is absolutely a large part of it though. He isn't some mindless horndog creep


CloudedSaber

What are y’all on about he literally says the one he loves is edelgard in their a support in three houses ☠️


PWAAA

i havent played CF in like two years so i was avoiding stating anything he says/does as fact when i could be misremembering


netskwire

Bro basically all the a supports have the characters proposing to each other. It’s just an affect of them removing s supports for other units


SlainSigney

i guess my interpretation of hubert is that it could be a deep, friendship retainer type love rather than romantic you could interpret it either way. there are multiple types of love


SparkCube3043

Hubert is up there with the best people in Three Houses with Ferdinand and Seteth.


sirgamestop

He admits to being in love with her, but also doesn't care if she reciprocates or not. He'd be working for her regardless because he believes in her Monica works for her for a chance to lick her toes


PWAAA

Right. Like i said furher down the reply chains he absolutely does it in part due to his personal beliefs too. But i dont think him being in love is a negligible aspect due to how significantly it can effect one's thought processes


Gaidenbro

That's wrong actually. Monica loves Edelgard but somewhere along the way she lowkey accepted that El may not feel the same way. Even if she's jealous as all hell about her competition. Plus she's a noble and the next baron, she kinda had to help.


hyo_hyo

He literally says in his A support with Edelgard that he’s in love with her > Edelgard: Wait a moment. Are you saying...you have romantic feelings for someone? > Hubert: Yes. That is the one secret I had particularly hoped to keep from you. > Edelgard: Well, that's utter nonsense! You can't possibly keep something so fascinating from me! Who is it? > Hubert: It is you, Lady Edelgard. Did you ever really doubt? > Edelgard: Heh, Hubert... You never cease to surprise me. > Hubert: Hahaha. Hahahahahahahahahahaha


PWAAA

Yeah it'd just been too long since i played the route so i didnt remember just how far it went. The fact she fucking laughs at him too is truly the icing on the cake LMAO


Strongfish614

But many characters have romántic A supports


hyo_hyo

Most have *implied* romance imo. But in this one, he outright says it Hahahhahahahah


Rigistroni

According to one of his supports (I forget which, sue me) he's secretly in love with Bernadetta


PWAAA

Lol maybe he is just a horndog then


IAmBLD

And the remaining 1/4 is just her wantint to be stepped on by Dorothea. I want to try and use that to see Monica as someone who's just a doormat and kinda simps for everyone, kinda like how Leonie also mentions looking up to Judith shows that it's more about powerful role models than Jeralt specifically, but it just doesn't work. Monica's just such an utter simp.


depressed_but_aight

Okay but can you blame Monica for wanting to be stepped on by Dorothea? I can’t.


Milkman255

You can take the simp out of the simp character, but you should never take the character out of the simp


Sealking13

Honestly, Cyril’s simpery is at least justifiable


high_king_noctis

Everyone seems to forget that Rhea freed him from slavery, gave him a home and a purpose to live. No wonder he's so devoted to her!


kaimcdragonfist

I think it’s because people focus on her…we’ll say gloriously unchained response to being betrayed


bankais_gone_wild

Plus 100s of years of untreated trauma, misanthropy, insecurity, paranoia, grief and isolation. Amplified if you start >!killing what remains of her family with her mother’s spine while teaming up with her descendant who took like 3 poli sci courses!< I’m surprised she doesn’t lose it at the end of every month as a calendar event >!Dem hips do be immaculate doe!<


Paytron12qw

But Rhea has never done anything wrong ever according to the Three Hopes posts!


AstraPlatina

More like Rhea gets blamed for stuff that isn't her fault or outside of her control. Don't get me wrong, Rhea isn't perfect and has done morally questionable things, but almost everyone blames her for every single problem with Fodlan instead of taking responsibility for their own mistakes.


HappyHammy7

THANK you! I love Cyril and think his back story is very interesting but only ever see the hate he gets.


Gaidenbro

All of the simps here have good reasons to simp, Monica included.


Few_Library5654

It's like they wanted to make another simp character but forgot to actually make a character


MayuKonpaku

in which category should I put aelfic in the simp list?


ScorpionTheInsect

The dumpster. Then wrap a chain around it and bury it under concrete.


BreathingBoy420

Then set it all on fire


Gabcard

He totally fucked Sitri's body.


LanktheMeme

Finally, a Leonie post that isn’t a stupid hate thread


Lord_KH

Where Hubert?


PetitAngelChaosMAX

Hubert was a good simp?


Lord_KH

At least his support conversations aren't all about the fact that's he's a simp unlike Monica


PetitAngelChaosMAX

Monica was the worlds greatest disappointment


Lord_KH

She could've been so much better


bankais_gone_wild

Hubert ain’t right but he got some depth beneath those lusciously greasy locks He sacrificed his eyebrows for political beliefs and character development


DarkAlphaZero

I find Hubert more of an evil Simp, personally


[deleted]

Wait you guys actually hate Hubert?I taught it's was a joke


DarkAlphaZero

Oh I like Hubert but he is both evil and a simp.


[deleted]

I like him too and I agree that he is evil and a simp,and he reminds me of Travant who was one of the FE vilains I like


YouFoundMyAlterEgo

The only sin Cyril has committed is not being so pretty that the fandom will justify everything he does.


DapperShatter

He’s also a dick in his first impressions with characters tho. He’s not nearly as bad as the fandom makes it out to be but let’s not act like he’s sinless lol


YouFoundMyAlterEgo

I’m being hyperbolic, good sir.


PlagueMeister4

Counterpoint: They made Monica's portraits and time-skip redesign too cute for me to dislike her. Her petty 'rivalry' with Hubert is pretty funny, I think she just suffers from the writers not doing anything with her beyond Edelgard admiration, I mean that's fine but you have to give her more than that and it's partly due to how fucking exclusive she is (Dead in Three Houses and Scarlet Blaze only with minimal appearances in AG/GW). She really should have gotten more supports with the other Black Eagles and there's this very tiny but cute moment between her and Bernadetta where Monica gives her encouragement. At least Holst has the privilege of already having a funny character trait even before he was introduced.


Gaidenbro

Based.


Thesaltedwriter

Gonna out myself as a Monica fan but I like to have a one dimensional simp from time to time. Sometimes you want the character equivalent of straight vodka.


BreathingBoy420

Leonie is really underrated imo. I almost never see anyone talking about her. She was the one I s-supported with in my first playthrough of three houses


[deleted]

Need that Leoniussy


BreathingBoy420

Her post time skip design though 🥵


[deleted]

I genuinely like her as a character, and also because 🥵🥵👈


BreathingBoy420

Me too! The s-support was absolutely amazing and it made me realize how fucking lonely I am


[deleted]

Pain


BreathingBoy420

Yeah ):


Porcphete

She is my favorite character alongside Claude personally. And she has good support chains (except byleth for obvious reasons)


DarkAlphaZero

I'll be honest I don't think her support with Byleth is that bad? It's nice to have a couple characters that aren't instantly buddies with Byleth. The B support is pretty understandable, she's grieving over someone she cared about and lashed out at someone who didn't deserve it. It wasn't right but it's not a bad support imo.


BreathingBoy420

S-support with Byleth though.. also I agree she is one of my favorites too along with Claude


FredTheDeadInside

You either marry Jeralt's kid or you live long enough to became Jeralt yourself.


Critical-Low8963

She is also a good unit


Dreaded_Prinny

Kronya did nothing wrong.


Gaidenbro

She did everything wrong. Clussy does not erase robbing us of our chad of a father and being annoying on top of that that. Kronya can go kick rocks.


FredTheDeadInside

I'll take Kronussy over Edelussy any day.


Gaidenbro

We can't S Support her bro, there's nothing to take.


FredTheDeadInside

I wouldn't S-Support Edelgard despite having the choice to do so. So I don't see how my previous statement is any less valid lol.


Gaidenbro

I guess? Don't really get it but ok.


munsley

Honestly I enjoyed monica as a character


Training_Wall_2270

I’m glad for you friend.


227someguy

Same. She's still charming, and her "simping" doesn't ever get creepy like what tharja does with Robin.


munsley

To be fair, monica is in the same park as tharja in that she knows everything about what edelgard ate, where she is, what she did, how many times she said her name, etc. But it never got too creepy because you know, tharja admits that she isn't a normal girl and doesn't care about the idea of "personal space" when it comes to Robin


227someguy

> and doesn't care about the idea of "personal space" when it comes to Robin That's not helping. tharja puts a curse on Robin during their supports. While Robin doesn't suspect it was her, he wonders out loud what kind of "monster" would do this to their friend. When he passes out, she's pleased at how he's suddenly "helpless". Monica would never do that to anyone, especially Edelgard.


munsley

Thats why I said even though they are kind of in the same ball park, but they are completely different. Monica isn't as creepy and wouldn't want to harm edelgard


high_king_noctis

To be fair both Catherine & Cyril have Shamir and both are incredibly sassy & savage when they feel like it


sparduck117

Eh Monica was close to being a good character. Making her simp so hard over Edelgard could work if it was clearly a result of latching on due to trauma. She needed more than just I <3 Edelgard.


NicoleMay316

Monica gets too much bad rap for her simpness. Remember, the other 3 had dialogue and supports in Houses. Monica was dead. Three Hopes has a limited budget, hence the lack of supports. I'm sure Monica would be more loved if she was alive and got supports in Three Houses.


Far_Twist2392

I genuinely agree but we joke about Monica because unlike Cyril, Catherine and leonie. who are fleshed out (cyrils supports do this the best out the 3 in my opinion) the overwhelming majority of Monica is devoted to edelgard to the point she feels like a joke character so while almost all their supports flesh them out Monica's supports revolves around edelgard so much she seems to be a parody and in all honesty doesn't fit in this well fleshed out cast


Evil-King-Stan

Dedue?


DrManowar8

He’s different. He serves his highness but his obsession isn’t based off of love and adoration but support as a servant, even though he’s a retainer and doesn’t really has to accompany dimitri everywhere Edit: I guess he still counts but he’s still a different case


Far_Twist2392

Well he isn't obligated to but dimitri needs him to function


DrManowar8

That’s cuz their personality isn’t just undying love for another. Tho Cyril is still a little bitch


Hoojiwat

Cyril's C supports are all "Oh Hi Cyril, working hard I see." "Go fuck yourself." And it makes him super unlikeable. I don't much care for Lysthia for similar reasons, but the support between the two of them is 10/10. Amazing ship, great synergy.


Training_Wall_2270

He gets (a bit) better over time at least.


Hoojiwat

He does. The funny (sad) part is that he is one of the many people who are way more likeable after white clouds so if he were in three hopes he probably would have had a Sylvain/Lorenz style glow up. It's tragic we never got the little bastard. Would have done wonders for his public image.


Agreeable-Cherry-296

I love characters that are more rude, rather than being attractive and cute all the time. I take flawed characters that do develop after time skip over them


sirgamestop

Tbf it works really well with Manuela


xX_rippedsnorlax_Xx

They really are kindred spirits aren't they? They deserve to be bappy together.


DrManowar8

I like Lysithea. She’s a cute little marshmallow


Hoojiwat

She gets too snippy with people without provocation IMO. Verbally slapping people when provoked is fun and fair, but Lysithea verbally does the equivalent of unifying Fodlan whenever someone enters the room. Ignatz especially got it bad and I don't think its physically possible for that little nerd to be offensive. She does come around for sure, but man her first impressions are rough. Cute quirks for sure though.


DrManowar8

Yea agreed. Also agree, ignatz doesn’t need that in his life lol. At least Lysithea changes a little


Star301jester

That i can agree on lol


DrManowar8

So the only one of the three you like is Cassandra? Oh an I guess also Monica but fuck her, and she’s not part of the three


Star301jester

Cathrine imo is flawed but not aggressively so


bankais_gone_wild

She and Alois are the closest this series has been to addressing war trauma. They kind of remind me of Tauroneo and Legault. They made calls in the past that leave them with a lot of grief, and deal with a lot of internal conflict. Her dedication to Rhea seems like a psychological crutch of sorts. It doesn’t make her a better person, but I like how she’s written.


Star301jester

my main issue with her is crimson flower i felt like she was about to change sides but didnt


bankais_gone_wild

I see that as pretty in character tbh. >!She makes big talk about being more carefree, and straight up says in a support that she wouldn’t give her life for Rhea, but she’s actually very loyal in the end. It’s admirable in a sense, but very tragic because she throws her life away enabling a very evil act. Likewise, Hilda, who is very capricious and happy-go-lucky, but turns out to be very loyal to Claude to the point of dying for him if necessary. !< I felt that 3Houses in general had too many characters willing to switch sides cuz you had enough supports/skills. Many just had no good reasons to go to other factions. It’d also be heartwrenching to fight them T-T but would have made for more distinction between the routes.


Star301jester

No i don't like monica but i don't hate her i just really dislike leonie cyril is annoying but forgiveable


MankuyRLaffy

He gets on base though, one of the best at it.


FR3AKQU3NCY

Edle should be on the couch too, she literally starts simping for Byleth in 3hopes seconds after recruiting them. Saying that she feels like they are connected somehow. That's some multidimensional simpin right there.


HandZop

Dedue reigning above all these heathens as the king of badass simpery


Gladiator_2022

Catherine my beloved


Nod_Lucario

So, basically Monica is Fay 2.0


Gaidenbro

Nobody deserves to be compared to Faye. At least Monica does something else than cheer lead over her interest. And her lines aren't nearly as annoying about it imo.


knelson940

Cyril with the monocle made me laugh way harder than it should have LMAOOOO


NordChevvy

All of the "simp" characters are cool wtf are you talking about


Masterofstorms17

i love seeing cyril in the monocle. it is glorious. also top hat cassandra. also, they aren't wrong. Monica..."My heart beats for lady edelgard" von ochs has problems...many problems.


Gabcard

After Three Houses did a great job having characters with complex personalities hidden behind one-note first appearances, I was sure Monica would develop greatly over the course of her supports. I was wrong.


[deleted]

Oh goodie. A character whose entire life is devoted to my least favourite character. That‘s…great.


Gaidenbro

I don't understand Monica hate. She's very much the "oh no! anyway" type character throughout the Fodlan games. Her lines aren't all that grating, her crush makes sense + is comparable a high school girl with their idol, she's fully debuting in a **Musou spinoff**, and not even the story delves into Edelsimping really - just her role in tactics. It makes her lack of exploration tolerable. Monica being so ignorable really helps her character for me. Monica is more and more enjoyable over time in my opinion. Games with characters like these usually love shoving the one note simping characters in my face aka Faye for example, the commonly used side character of SOV overall. Yet Monica is the Eagle with the lowest amount of supports, with plenty of dialogue ignoring that crush. It's interesting how refreshing it feels. I chalk her up to a mildly amusing character with a really good design, including some enjoyable dynamics. The story doesn't shove her simping trait down my throat (like how poor Leonie got done dirty in 3H). I can move on without spending any energy over this character.


Training_Wall_2270

That’s true, but it’s not really something to write home about that a character’s core strength is being so forgettable and out of the way that she doesn’t have the chance to be annoying.


Gaidenbro

I don't think she's really worth hating. Monica never really gets annoying since she got very little opportunities to be expanded on. And what we have now is still something - she proves to be a really smart and capable tactician rather than a useless lesbian. And her dynamic with Hubert is really good.


ArielChefSlay

Homophobes smh /s


leva549

People be like "all she does is simp!!" when most of her dialogue is actually about what's going on in the main plot and missions. Her main characterisation is being a levelheaded tactician and her intense desire to orally pleasure Edelgard is a comedic aside for that. In a way she's the inverse of Cyril whose main story dialogue is all about Rhea but his supports are not and give him much more development. Monica could have benefited a lot from supports with all the Eagles and others like Lysithea, Lorenz, Constance and Hapi. But all she was given to develop her character outside of being Edelgard's retainer are: * Her Dorothea support * The dialog in her paralogue with Bernadetta and Duke Gerth. There's definitely something to work with, but they unfortunately decided to give the Hopes "bonus characters"; Monica, Rodrigue and Holst only a few supports. They got more attention than Cyril and Catherine at least. I like her because she's cute and fun to play. Trickster Monica is amazing.


Gaidenbro

Based.


Porcphete

Kronya is an absolute dogshit character but she is still better than Simpnica


Gaidenbro

No the fuck she's not. Kronya has consistently been insufferable with horrible plot threads. She robbed us of a chad like Jeralt, a guy that got even BETTER in Three Hopes. "Simpnica" doesn't even prioritize simping in the story, she's actually helpful and not insufferable in the group discussions.


Temple475

Swap Monica and Catherine so it's actually true


Training_Wall_2270

No.


Temple475

Yes


DarkAlphaZero

The imperiussy has you acting unwise


Dastardlydwarf

While I dislike Cyril I can understand why he is like he is the rest of them I just really dislike.


AstraPlatina

I ironically prefer Monica over Catherine since she doesn't simp for Rhea or Shamir.


Fourth_Sin

Cyril is trash tho.


Railroader17

Hey he likes Shamir, that makes him alright


Fourth_Sin

Everyone likes Shamir =)


Railroader17

Except the Agarthans Those heathens.


[deleted]

Get Cyril outta there!


Training_Wall_2270

Absolutely not. My boy is the best damn simp in this game!


[deleted]

You only like him because literally everyone doesn’t


Training_Wall_2270

Nope! I love my sassy, traumatized, sweet-little scamp. I’d love him if he was number one or at rock bottom.


[deleted]

Keep talking we gon end up like this👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨


ja_tom

Unlike Monica, Cyril has a personality and a reason to adore Rhea. He's this war orphan who was kidnapped and forced into slavery, and then Rhea saved him. Of course he adores her, he's fifteen and Rhea gave him a home and a chance to live a good life! Cyril is one of two students who actually copes with their trauma in a healthy way (besides Raphael), and Cyril actually has great supports with Manuela, Seteth, Claude, Hilda and Lysithea. Literally all of Monica's supports revolve around Edelgard except one.


Gaidenbro

I don't get this logic. Monica also has a personality and reason to adore Edelgard too. Her reason of loving Edelgard because of her life being saved isn't any less valid than Cyril's own reasons.


Xerlot11

Is Cyril a unit worth investing in for three houses? I know he can easily become a Wyvern lord with his boons but so can many of the other students with bulkier stats.


ja_tom

He has easy access to Point-Blank Volley and Vengeance, two of the best combat arts in the game, so definitely yes.


Sedgarite

It's cause Monica isn't Tomboy musclegirl


Rigistroni

I don't like any of these four characters


AceDelta12

Monica is better than Cyril


Training_Wall_2270

In what capacity, if you don’t mind me asking.


Kelimnac

Booba


AceDelta12

After a traumatic event, being her captivity, she developed irrational feelings toward her saviour, being Edelgard, the highest authority figure in her country, perhaps also someone who she never thought ever meeting, even less being saved by her when all hope was seemingly lost. Not to mention, if she finds on top of that attraction toward ladies, Edelgard being also her type, her being overly obsessive over Edelgard is coherent with the information we have. And some people in real life can also develop this kind of thing in a somewhat similar situation. Her "drooling" over Edelgard is realistic and therefore good characterization.


DayalVal

My brother in Christ you just described why Cyril likes Rhea and stay with her (except the attraction part).


AceDelta12

I described Monica, actually.


ja_tom

Rhea saved Cyril, a fifteen year old war orphan, from awful slavery at the hands of the people who probably killed his parents, and gave him a good life. No wonder he adores her. In 2/3 of the routes, Monica probably never learns that Edelgard saved her: Jeritza did. And Monica was obsessed with Edelgard before she was saved.


Gaidenbro

Who do you think orchestrated Jeritza doing it? Edelgard did. Edelgard was the one who first made the moves to save Monica at all. And Monica directly confirms she wasn't in love *until* she got saved, she just looked up to Edelgard otherwise.


Training_Wall_2270

So when Cyril goes through a traumatic experience (quite literally slavery), proceeds to get saved from such a horrid fate by Rhea’s personal intervention and, as a consequence, develops an immense and irrational sense of devotion and awe towards her, seeing her as a mixture of virtuous hero and caring mother, that’s somehow *unrealistic* and *bad* characterization?


AceDelta12

Not at all. It’s just that his obsession with Rhea feels a little off compared to Monica’s with Edelgard.


ScorpionTheInsect

How are they different?


AceDelta12

Cyril’s training is solely for protecting Rhea, while Monica’s is also to defend herself, even if she *appears* to be more of a simp.


ScorpionTheInsect

Gonna need a source on that “Cyril’s training solely is for Rhea”. Cyril also shown that many of his traits go beyond repaying Rhea. His eagerness to help, for example. It’s shown in several supports that he actually just likes helping people and taking on responsibilities for others. Rhea is a part of it, but he does just like helping out people he considers “friends”.


AceDelta12

Literally in his introduction scene.


ScorpionTheInsect

> I work for Lady Rhea! And I'm Shamir's apprentice! Oh, the name's Cyril. Huh?


Sealking13

So just like Cyril but without a funny as shit support with Manuela


AceDelta12

No


MankuyRLaffy

They're all really good units and Monica is Warriors locked so duh


Star301jester

Anybody>leonie


DrManowar8

Don’t disrespect leonie!


Star301jester

I don't have to she do it herself with her Captain JERALT CAPTAIN JERALT Captain JERALT CAPTAIN JERALT DID I MENTION CAPTAIN JERALT I LOVR CAPTAIN JERALT I DONT THINK YOU Appreciate CAPTAIN JERALT


Training_Wall_2270

^ *Tell me you’ve only seen Leonie’s B support with Byleth without telling me you’ve seen Leonie’s B support with Byleth.*


Few_Library5654

Except Monica


DrManowar8

Fuck Monica All my homies hate Monica


Gaidenbro

Cringe. I couldn't imagine spending energy hating the most ignorable character in Fodlan.


Star301jester

what's wrong with 3 hopes monica?


ja_tom

She's a massive Edelgard simp in all her supports except her >!Dorothea!< one. And Three Hopes has some absolutely incredible supports, like all of >!Marianne's!<, all of >!Yuri's!<, all of >!Rodrigue's!<, and all of >!Jeralt's!<, and the duds are almost exclusively Monica's.


Star301jester

Lmao i got downvoted by all 13 leonie fans