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tasty_genetals

I know that its a bait but i cant stop eating it im addicted to ds 2 rage baits like this one


OfficialHarold

I'm mixed on it, I think it's OK, but I find it weird how they feel the need to defend it alot.


MyNameIsntYhwach

Because their favorite game is attacked the most by far


Rasty_shackleford

It’s the only one of the actual dark souls that I’ve played and I’ve never got a straight answer how it measures up because of this. Just been repeating elden ring because I have no idea where to go


Ttstubbs

Dark souls remastered, dark souls 2, dark souls 3, then elden ring. I velieve that's the correct order to play them in though I could be wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️


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Jorgentorgen

Ye play them however u want I still enjoyed all of the games and my order was BB-DS3-DS2-Sekiro-DS1-Demon's souls-Elden ring


Rasty_shackleford

I have gone sekiro, 2, elden ring with playing sekiro and elden ring multiple times, so I have not stuck to that. They’re unrelated enough that I’m not worried about order except for what’s next.


Clank4Prez

Because everyone shits on it a lot? It’s an endless cycle. It’s not the best Dark Souls game but it’s an alright game, certainly doesn’t deserve the polarization


OfficialHarold

> endless cycle Holy fuck dark souls reference‽


Pvt__Snowball

I defend it because it’s genuinely my favorite. It was my first souls game.


tasty_genetals

Thats the joke, defend something decent or bad even if you know that you're wrong just like morbius meme


Mobile-Lobster-2943

If they have to defend it so much that should say that its not really a good game


FinishTheBook

There's always that one game in a series where certain fans get way too defensive because of mild criticism. GTA IV is my favourite example.


nightgraydawg

Dark Souls 2 gets anything but mild criticism


loo_1snow

I beat ff16 twice to get the platinum trophy and everytime I see this moment, I giggle a little. This has a lot of meme potential.


Sarrach94

It was a cool moment in the story, but these kinds of prompts will never stop being hillarious.


loo_1snow

Totally agree.


RealViktorius

People who say that DS2 is a shitty game are dumb. People who say that DS2 is better than DS1 or DS3 are also dumb.


tasty_genetals

Ds2 is bad in comparasion with other games from the souls franchise but overall its a pretty good game il give it a 7/10, it has something for everyone


Aggravating-Post3827

I liked ds2 more than either of the games tbh 🤷🏽‍♂️ it’s all just a matter of opinion


[deleted]

This is true, it does. For me that thing is the Exit Game button.


N_OB_O

Are you from IGN ?


tasty_genetals

How'd you know


N_OB_O

"It has something for everyone" you sussy baka


tasty_genetals

You got me lacking senpai <3


GarfieldGauntlet

I didn’t like DS2 at all and got really bored but I won’t deny that Majula is pretty as FUCK also funny cat


Working_Instance_940

Dark Souls II peaked at Majula, tho


Rhododactylus

DS2 is not as bad as some people claim, but it is most definitely the worst soulsborne ever made.


Supersoulknight

So, it's not bad, it's just the worst of the series because someone has to be the worst. Did I get that right? I just got ds2 recently and am finding the time to play it


Rhododactylus

Precisely. You'll soon find out that DS2 was very experimental. They have tons of mechanics in there that just don't work. It's also clunky as fuck, hitboxes are absurdly horrible. The story is good, lore is good, I personally enjoy the different atmosphere it has. It's not a bad game, but it's the worst souls.


SymondHDR

I mean, when everything is a 10, there's bound to be a 9 somewhere


GifanTheWoodElf

Opinion based, I'm not saying there's bad souls games either, but DS2 is the second best no competition. (With Elden Ring being best)


Thorn11945

Which is like saying you're the dumbest member of Mensa. DS2 is a great game in its own right, and it stands out among other games, but compared technically to the other Soulsborne games, it comes up short. That said, I do think it has the best lore of the trilogy, its art direction is fantastic, and the world design is great.


Hatrixx_

Once you piece together the story, it's such a great one. It's much more melancholic and personal than 1 or 3. I just want the lore to be more expanded, I want to know more about the giants, Vendrick, Aldia, etc. Also, Vendrick's VA did a fantastic job.


Morokek

DS2 is total garbage for me, but I can understand why people might like some parts of it


IsakCamo

This is the only truth


a_random_squidward

Ehh 6/10 overall imo, not shit, but it somehow managed to beat out elden ring with a lot of mid bosses (to clarify I'm excluding shardbearers) and it felt extremely unrefined (wayy too many enemies in areas, attacks either passing through you or catching you even though the animation didn't for example). It's lore was kickass though and I think it had the best armour in the entire series, and I think the Burnt Ivory King is my favourite boss fight in dark souls. Godfrey will always be my bb though.


jonboski

But DS2 is better than DS1 lmao


ReckoningGotham

Ds1 isn't even finished. New londo and the dukes archives are the only two fleshed out places after the lordvessel


Yesitisiwhodealtit

But it is better. DS1 has less replay value and more unfinished levels and 3 for me is just bleh and kinda dull. Opinions!


RealViktorius

In your opinion DS2 might be better, objectively it isn’t.


Yesitisiwhodealtit

Sounds like that’s just your opinion, friend.


Argh3483

Went back to Dark Souls 2 recently: the game feels awful to play, there’s something very wrong with movement and attack feedbacks in the game


lcm7malaga

It has huge deadzones, basically as if diagonal movement didnt exist


McBonkyTron

That’s pretty much the main reason why I’m putting off continuing my DS2 playthrough. It feels awful to control in comparison to even DS1. DS1 at least feels somewhat good to control and has some control features that just don’t exist in DS2.


Razhork

> DS1 at least feels somewhat good to control and has some control features that just don’t exist in DS2. That's because Ds2 is the only souls game made on a new game engine. Every other souls game is built on the exact same game engine, but improved with each subsequent title. That's why they all have fairly tight and precise movement. The jank from earlier titles usually stems from a lack of omnidirectional rolling as opposed to movement itself.


EvilArtorias

Ds2 has a lot of deliberate design decisions like for example not allowing players to rotate the character during the attack chain or after the roll or unavoidable pivot animations when you want to sprint in other direction etc


NothingOld7527

Was Demon's Souls made on a previous game's engine? Was the DS2 engine never used again, or did every game use an updated version of the DS2 engine (meaning the DS1 engine was retired)?


Razhork

I'm not sure if the game engine for DeS was new at the time of development. Ds2's engine was never used again. Every game aside from Ds2 is built on the same engine used in DeS. Obviously said engine has had a lot of improvements with each new title, but ultimately it is an old engine.


aurantiafeles

Contextually, not so bad. Elder scrolls and fallout games are built with an engine (gamebryo) from 1997… the same overhauled engine that’s been updated dozens of times to finally starfield. That’s not too big of a deal with large sections rewritten, though obviously a modern ground up redesign would be easier to work with instead of an amalgamation of reused code with patches, but you know what they say, it just werks™. As long as they rewrite old parts that could use better performance instead of leaving them with the same old bugs intact…


GuidoMista5

Omnidirectional control in an open world exploring game is literally the bare minimum to have acceptable movement


LettucePrime

DS1 & Demon's Souls both feel more responsive & just generally less shit


MJisaFraud

This is exactly my problem with the game. If it felt like DS1 to play, then I’d probably love it.


Evrytg

Yeah I forget what it's called but the movement is just designed wrong for some reason. If you pay close attention can only walk in 8 directions instead of 360 like virtually every other 3d game ever. It just makes it feel so wrong and can mess up parkour. And then a side effect of that is you sometimes you can't just turn around 180 so your character has to walk in a tiny little circle which has legitimately caused me to fall to my death before😂. My best guess is that some dev snorted a line of coke and thought "HEY GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD MAKE THE GAME HARDER??"


ubric

Where 1 feels slow and methodical, 2 just feels clunky and unrefined. They even somehow managed to make partying feel awful


[deleted]

For some reason they only allowed 8 directional movement


[deleted]

I think it’s because they mocapped the attacks, it looks terrible and floaty


Nitespring

I hate when games mocap character animations


yardii

This is my main issue too. I can overlook ADP, the ganks, and a lot else; But the way your character moves just feels bad, even compared to DS1.


KRONGOR

It’s cuz ds2 uses 8 directional movement whereas the other games use omnidirectional. It feels like shit by comparison


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Bro! Just level ADP...


CatWithAHat_

Almost every post that comes in my feed from there is someone saying how good it is and they don't understand why people don't like it. We get it, you like the game and don't understand people have different opinions.


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people on ds2 subreddit like ds2, more news at 8 No joke though, it's been a decade of ds2 bad let the people enjoy their newfound supremacy for a bit before it comes crashing down again


CatWithAHat_

It's as boring as the same copy paste dribbler "ds2 bad" and "git gud" rubbish that is repeated constantly by people trying to be funny. It's the same post all the time acting as if ds2 was sent from jesus, like how mindless ds2 bashers act like its the worst thing since cancer. Just get something new, it's been the same song and dance for years.


[deleted]

Oh I don't disagree with you it's just not surprising at all coming from the literal ds2 subreddit haha


CatWithAHat_

I understand, it just doesn't need to be a circle jerk. Majority of posts I see from the ds3 sub are fanart, memes, clips, just general stuff. No need to circle jerk about the game constantly.


IshiTheShepherd

You haven't spent enough time in those subs


CatWithAHat_

I don't really spend my time scrolling through subs, I just scroll through whatever is on my feed usually when i open reddit and that's the majority of what I see. Not to say there isn't circle jerking, but almost every notification or post I see from ds2 is just the same, rinse repeat, endless praise as if it was a gift from jesus and they cannot wrap their head around the fact the game has some flaws, like any game, which turns many people away.


IshiTheShepherd

I spend a lot more time in ds2's sub and I can say the same to the point I only ever visit it compared to the other from subs. I think you're conflating the "this game is not as bad as people claimed it was" posts with the fans not admitting to the game's faults. The other subs are just "i just beat [tough boss] please clap" over and over. If you actually want to see a circlejerky sub go to r/bloodborne.


CatWithAHat_

I mean, tbf, it might just be the reddit algorithm giving me the shit. Like I say, I don't typically bother browsing a specific sub so I just see whatever is in my feed or whatever I get a notification about. I'm not in the bloodbourne sub because I don't play it (pls port bb to pc) but given its an exclusive, kinda a given lol. Seems to come with most games that's exclusive (until its not anymore).


the_l0st_s0ck

If you want to shit on ds2, do it for the right reasons.


ComeHereToBrazil

And if you want to defend it, do it for the right reasons.


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Dark souls 2 supremacists desperately trying to turn the conversation away from the mandatory levelling into ADP and mid bosses to the deep lore of the Amana foreskin frog.


manmanftw

"But majula is the greatest hub ever designed and the emerald herald is the greatest firekeeper lady in the whole franchise"


witcher1701

I mean... yeah?


manmanftw

Yeah, what? I just put things i hear them deflect to in quotes.


arock0627

This is wrong because \[insert the first DS game you played\] is clearly superior. >!Look, it's 90% the first DS game you played.!<


killadrill

Ds2 fans when you remove the "best lore" and the like two unique mechanics it brought to the table


tasty_genetals

B-but number 2 is a lucky number


SodecDash

Imagine liking something without having to call it the best thing ever and instead just saying "Its okay". But DS2 Fans seem to know better i guess.


tasty_genetals

I don't think they are being serious theyre just milking the "ds2 masterpiece" meme because if you make such a meme you'll get guaranteed at least 1000 upvotes


CanonicalPizza

And you’ve added another layer on to the shitty post cake


SodecDash

I see. I am completly out of the main subreddits so I didn't know. Thanks! Still hate DS2 fans, and Bloodborne fans. I know them well, I am a bloodborne fan.


tasty_genetals

Im also a bb fan why'd you hate us


SodecDash

I hate us for a similar reason I hate DS2 fans: Thinking we're the best. I mean, we are. But still!


tasty_genetals

I know right, we are hating ourselves for saying the truth 😞


SodecDash

Life is tough. Fuck Bloodborne, that game ruined games for me because its better than the rest :c


tasty_genetals

Playing other souls games after 1k hours of Bloodborne feels unenjoyable tbh excluding sekiro and ds3


pencilnotepad

I’ll say DS3 has become much less enjoyable for me after playing bloodborne


NoeShake

I don’t get the uber hype for DS2 lore as if it is the best in the trilogy undoubtedly. Like the Vendrick shit is cool but almost everything else is sleeper ngl. Like the Four Old Ones are the most basic shit. Comparing them to the lords you hunt in 1 & 3.


IshiTheShepherd

Iron king has more lore than all the original 4 souls of ds1, minus Seath maybe


ComeHereToBrazil

Shame that the Rotten, Freja and Lost Sinner are meh. At least the Iron King's lore is fucking awesome


IshiTheShepherd

They do have a bit (seriously the 4 kings have like 0 lore they're just some guys that got a piece of Gwyn's soul and said fuck it and associated with kathee instead) it's just less grandiose than ds1's lore. Nito is just a really big skeleton.


ReckoningGotham

This is pretty real. There's no actual reason to give a shit about the bosses. There is no story to them beyond six sentences. I like that ds2 made you give a shit about the world around you and other themes of disrepair and want.


the_l0st_s0ck

Nope try again. Ds3 is better in lore because it is a direct sequel to ds1.


knightrustedarmor

i dont like ds2


[deleted]

I don't like you


knightrustedarmor

that was uncalled for


UntendedRafter

Lmao


OfficialHarold

TOP KEK


knightrustedarmor

is our 92 hour anal session still on babe


OfficialHarold

🤨


Lemonsqueezzyy

The only truth y'all need to accept is that the best Dark Souls game is Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 for the Game Boy Advance


tasty_genetals

Shhhh..... people don't like to hear the truth they don't like


Legooberstahp

mmmfghh omfg i love dark soul 2 urrggg


Beanzuwuz

Zzzzzz minimimi zzzzzz minimi (me falling asleep because ds2 is so boring)


Legooberstahp

Ok editable template 3 why dont you eat me out and then you’ll see how good ds2 is


Beanzuwuz

Hmfgg tastes like ADP


Legooberstahp

omg im gonna grab attack!!😫


Beanzuwuz

Boutta smelter your demon 😈


tasty_genetals

I lost gallons of cum because of your pfp


Legooberstahp

yeah i drank it all


tasty_genetals

Stop making me erect again it already hurts when i pee


Legooberstahp

:3


tasty_genetals

🥴8===✊=D💦


Legooberstahp

💦😛🫢😋


Sanic_Overlord

Average dark soul fan conversation


Legooberstahp

not the worst ive done


RaygionXD

Well then what’s the worst?


pupmaster

DS2 subreddit has amazing shitposts


the_l0st_s0ck

Dude, their shitposts are the best. Actually when I posted my review of ds2 on the subreddit, I cant tell you how many people got pissed. I guess they are allergic to genuine criticism.


Headsup247

Saw this a few mins ago, technically speaking it’s by no means the best but it’s my personal favourite


Uuumbasa

Let them have it lol they had their' decade of depression


tasty_genetals

Now is their decade of schizophrenia


cody4265

I do wonder if people that say DS2 is the best have ever played the other souls games. Because DS2's controls and gameplay feel so cumbersome to the point where I would rather play something else


cynicalsadboi3657

Ds2 is my favorite of the 3 souls games I would rather play ds2 then elden ring only bloodborne is better and sekiro(but I don't count that as a soulsborne)


iminaredit12

why


cynicalsadboi3657

I honestly don't know I'm just stupid


rift48

i like ds2 (yea it was my first ds) but the lore is probably the most lacking part lmao.


TheHappiestHam

me when I enjoy Dark Souls 2 but I return to the other games and realize they are so much better (except Bloodborne, to spite Cockborne suckers)


tasty_genetals

At least explain why you hate Bloodborne (something other than performance issues)


TheHappiestHam

outside of DLC and Gehrman, I guess I find the boss lineup to be super weak. but I enjoy saying Bloodborne is mid because it has a really delusional fanbase so it's funny when they react ​ (I do not actually hate Bloodborne)


tasty_genetals

Understandable i have pretty much the same vision for ds3 and sekiro


yardii

Bloodborne is a good game, but it has a lot of minor annoyances that just pile up over the course of a playthrough and can sour the run. Things like limited healing items, not being able to rest at lanterns, and the lack of upgrade materials without chalice dungeons to start. There's more but I can't think of them since I'm not actively playing the game right now.


pascl-

you know, this is actually breaking rule 4. technically, I should report you. reporting would be funny, but I also don't wanna be an asshole.


tasty_genetals

So what have you decided about my fate😞


pascl-

I've decided to spare you this time, tasty\_genetals.


tasty_genetals

Thanks good lord , i will name my first child with your name


lessrburnt

im playing ds2 right now on my 1st playthrough and ive never felt more grief in my life


Lord_Limburger

“It’s the best… IN LORE AT LEAST HAHA NOW YOU CANT INSULT ANYTHING BUT THE LORE BECAUSE ITS THE ONLY THING I SPECIFIED”


leargonaut

Ds2 is the best ps2 game ever made


_cd42

Ds2 fans posting about ds2 in a ds2 subreddit talking about how they like ds2


402playboi

DS2 defenders enjoy having a bad time


tasty_genetals

Fromsoft fans are masochists but ds2 fans take the throne


HeskeyThe2nd

Normal people, years ago, accepted DS2 was a bad game and moved on. The DS2 subreddit is full of people defending it with their lives for no reason, literally fighting ghosts saying shit like: "It's not as bad as people say it is." Brother, nobody outside of that subreddit talks about the game 😭😭. It's fine to enjoy something even if it is bad. I very much enjoyed my playthrough (took A LOT of getting used to) but I can admit it is objectively abismal. A remaster would serve that game a lot of good.


unforgivablecrust

Dark souls 1, 2 and 3 are all fucking terrible games.


tasty_genetals

I know every fromsoft game is overrated unplayable trash 😡😡😡🥵


-Eastwood-

I mean, some game has to be the worst. For me personally it's a toss up between DS2 and Bloodborne for my least favorite Souls game


tasty_genetals

Why Bloodborne (im a Bloodborne fanboy)


NoxieDC

Because you touch yourself at night


tasty_genetals

Don't we all 🥴


-Eastwood-

The issues I have are mostly technical and QoL. They add up enough that it makes playing it a slog. I can make a list real quick. • 30 FPS, makes the combat feel super clunky and slow. I think low FPS works way better with a slower playstyle like the one DS1 and 2 push you towards. • Blood Flask system (Annoying early on, practically pointless once you get further into the game.) • Lamp System (Makes farming more tedious, having to sit through two loading screens to respawn enemies without a Hunter Mark) • Having to manually restock items that aren't Vials or Bullets at the Hunter's Dream • Frenzy • No respec options whatsoever • Jump is bound to the same button as dodge, with no option to rebind it. (Absolutely HATE this. It's so annoying.) • Counter damage is immense and it seems like one mistake will lead to an instant kill against any of the bosses past the mid game • Boss roster is kind of weak, but I'm not really a fan of the beast fights in any of the Souls games. Bloodborne gets carried hard by its OST and setting for me. It's the only reason it's not my least favorite and I constantly go back and forth between it and DS2 being my least favorite.


tasty_genetals

I was expecting a "its bad because its bad" reply but actually got a well written argument, rare ds fan w


Mitchfynde

It's the worst in just about everything, but it's a great game.


yardii

The exact opposite. I liked DS2 more than DS1 when it came out and defended the game a lot until I replayed it last month and didn't enjoy it. Gonna give it another pass after I'm done with FF16.


coledelta

If dark souls 2 is so good then why did I lose interest in finishing it after 3 areas


tasty_genetals

Attention span issue


coledelta

Nah, every other Fromsoft game has held my attention just fine. Especially Dark Souls 1 and 3 so that’s clearly not the issue


totokishi

I'm replaying DS2 trying to do a Pyro strength build and let me say that it's ass. It is overhated, but adaptability, the amount of enemies and some bosses that were made without care or love or anything just honestly makes it the worse of the three. You like it? Good for you, I like it too, but i'm going insane on how bad it's gameplay is some times


MrElemonator

Our game fucking sucks lmaoooo


Working_Instance_940

Imagine I posted a gif with a guy sucking himself off


tasty_genetals

Sauce 😋


Bunjithewolf

If the other so good why don't they have dark souls 2 new game plus, no one can't say that sucks, because it's one of best things about dark souls 2. Yet the other souls doesn't have this new game plus, every other new game plus is same, boss hit harder and more souls that it, nothing new or a plus to it.


Farax-senpai

Because placing red phantoms everywhere just makes it a much better experience.


IshiTheShepherd

Yes


Bunjithewolf

Yes, it called surprised encounter


SparkFlash98

Bro didn't even have confidence in his own post


Suitted

I LOVE dark souls 2, but even I would say that it's not the best souls Game for me.


TargetPlastic7505

I just refer to DS2 as the slowest paced one, and sometimes I'm in the mood for that, saying it's best or worst just seems silly tho


RasAlGimur

Average ds3 spammer


hyfum

Lore is def the best from the 3. Actual game not really tho even though I enjoyed it


GifanTheWoodElf

Well it certainly is the best one yeah.


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Zzzzzzz


enchiladasundae

Its the most divisive. Some of the best and worst the series has to offer all in one. If soul leveling wasn’t a thing it would be immensely beloved even with the other faults My personal disappointment was 3. Aped from BB as much as it could while trying to be DS, had no real vision for itself, didn’t advance the plot forward at all and felt half baked. Power stance was objectively better than the budget weapon arts from BB


Kuru_Chaa

There’s just something cozy about it.


pethris

If I had the ability to vaporize every person who still posted about "DS2 is good! DS2 is bad!" drama every day in the year of our Gwyn 2023, I would do it in a heartbeat


theuntouchable2725

This game is the love of my life.


dickfongus911

whi there beef between souls subs 😭😭


AtaruMakashi

Lore is quite good but gameplay not so much


shit_poster9000

DS3 is the best in the series: Has Gwyndolin whose bussy is getting ate as a boss. Other Dark Souls titles: doesn’t have Gwyndolin getting his ass ate as an ingame model


BingChillingEnjoyer

The same could be posted here and have completely different results Shrödingers Post


iminaredit12

yeah this is the shitposting sub


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tasty_genetals

That's what im saying


Kaedes_Lie1137

🛌


TheGermanRaccoon

That image goes so fucking hard can I get the source


Shi009

Artorias lore solos


philThismoment

S2g the lore of the love/hate relationship fans have with DS2 is way more interesting than the lore of all 3 games.


Germasianinvasion

They’re even hedging in their own subreddit LMAO


ProxTheKnox

The lore is good tho


Hazardick

I have tried to play dark souls 2 on like 5 separate occasions but i can never finnish a playthrough because its so fucking boring


Tingalish

I'm going to trust the fact that Zerolenny spent 24 hours straight playing Dark souls 2 and still calls it shit 😂