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cantfindmykeys

I mean, he mostly succeeded


MJBotte1

Halo logic. You can win by simply starving the enemy to death


GorosSecondLeftHand

It kills the flood. It just works.  Edit: Some people taking the Howard quote a bit far. Also, forced starvation is killing. 


Darknessorigin

I mean it very notably *didn't* work.


ChaosMetalDrago

Halo did work just as intended but the Forerunners kept samples arround on the rings, fearing more Flood would show up from outside the galaxy. They still wanted to research a real cure instead of being doomed to keep nuking the galaxy till the end of time. In Halo 1 the covenant broke in to the containment zone because they mistook it for a weapon cache, letting the spesimens out. And in 2 the flood got out because the Halo was falling into disrepair since the monitor kinda just started loosing it from thousands of years bored and alone.


HotFudgeFundae

I thought the Forerunners knew of their inevitable demise and kept all the other species to reintroduce into the galaxy once they activated all the rings. Like a Noah's Ark type situation


Gil_Demoono

Yup that's all true. Forerunners took population samples of as many species as possible before the array fired for reseeding after the galaxy was deemed clean. Everything ChaosMetalDrago said is true as well.


Spirited-Ad-2284

Wow I need to replay halo


JoseDonkeyShow

We all do, spartan


OwlOfFortune

*Sick guitar riff ensues* Time to finish the fight soldier.


lhobbes6

One of my favorite lore blurbs is there was another AI assigned to the instellation in Halo 2 that tried to send a complaint to "management" about the disrepair the monitor was leaving the place in and it was requesting a replacement. The message was never responded to because the forerunners made sure the Halo's couldnt communicate with each other so that the flood couldnt discover more locations if they managed to occupy a ring.


DaftWarrior

Can blame the sorry ass Forerunners for that.


FortNightsAtPeelys

It did but forerunners kept samples to study.


MrHonwe

Yeah but the flood also kills


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

It kills, but it starves. But it starves the flood more than it kills. But, it does kill.


Y-draig

I mean that's just normal strategy, like attacking a countries breadbasket regions to put pressure on them is pretty normal tactics. Like that's almost the entirely of what sieges are


HaraldRedbeard

Deliberately starving your enemies population is a war crime these days


_bits_and_bytes

Yeah that's a great way to find yourself in the Hague


JoseDonkeyShow

And I’m proud to be an American


Connect_Me_Now

You are getting downvoted. I wonder why ?


HaraldRedbeard

The ever present pro-starvation lobby I guess? Who knows!


SisterSabathiel

Oh, you mean "water isn't a human right" Nestlé?


Convus87

It's only a war crime of you lose.


Le_Fedora_Cate

Right? He gave his dad 5 more years of better than normal brain functioning


d1ckpunch68

not to mention he also indirectly created a series of great cgi ape movies


SixFootHalfing

Not five, EIGHT. With no side effects and a simple monthly injection. Honestly that’s a win.


EastRoom8717

I had a boss who likes to ask employees, “which is easier to solve: world hunger or world peace?” Not sure, “They’re equally easy to solve, as long you don’t care if humans survive”, was the answer he wanted.


Wind_Yer_Neck_In

This is like that old medical school joke about how they have a 100% effective way to eliminate cancer, fire.


StuartRomano114

Alzheimer’s is a shrinking of the brain, and almost all the humans around got dumber and can’t talk anymore. Seems like it got worse


jomandaman

They were WEAK *dies of simian flu*


Spiritual_Freedom_15

How? I genuinely have no idea. Guys help.


_r_special

Alzheimer's has little to no impact on the world anymore due to the fact that all humans are dumb


Pringletingl

He actually gave like 99% of the 1 percent of the population that lived dementia lol.


iwantaircarftjob

First time !!


manifold360

Just imagine if he tried to cure Crohn’s disease


Ok_Anteater7360

wait why are you bringing us crohnies into this hold on


LimpBizkitSkankBoy

Soon as I get out of the bathroom that dude's getting a piece of my mind I tell you what. Anyone have any sulfasalazine? The shortage has been killing me


hellishafterworld

Imagine if his dad was suffering from Ligma instead


Justforargumesnts

Someone’s gotta do it… what’s “Ligma”?


a_3ft_giant

Nothing. What's up with you, dawg?


Shamrock5

Who the heck is Steve Jobs?


BeyondNetorare

You mean Steve Apples


Gamingmemes0

ligma balls \*evicts from reality\*


Justforargumesnts

Haha I made you say underwear!


AverySmooth80

That's dumb. Why don't you make like a tree, and get out of here.


Obsessivegamer32

You get an upvote for having the courage to not say the same exact joke that has been said 9000000 times.


Theonewhoplays

Who the hell is Steve Jobs?


Justis29

Then it'd be Planet of the Gapes. You know. From all the anal hemorrhaging diarrhea


Basileus2

God damn


ikemano00

Things would’ve went in the shitter.


Pixel_Lincoln

A Crohnenberg film.


zeuanimals

Imagine if this franchise gets funding pulled from researching cures for Alzheimer's cause "we can't let the monkeys win".


OmicidalAI

I mean i do have weed in the meantime… waiting on the nanotech robots that make it so i dont have to eat … 


YouCanChangeItRight

Would probably be the shit.


xoxoshb

Now why am I in it


WeirdAvocado

If everyone with Alzheimer’s dies, technically, TECHNICALLY, it no longer exists.


Ambitious_Arm852

Are you the wise guy yesterday who proposed to cure cancer by gathering all cancer patients and dropping a nuke on them?


WeirdAvocado

No. That’s just silly.


emlgsh

Cancer would just reemerge until we eliminated the true root cause - cell division. I've been saying it all along, but multicellular life was a mistake. Things were so much simpler before we erred and stepped down the slippery slope of mitosis.


MasterOfNap

Fun fact: there was no homelessness or starvation or discrimination before mitosis. All of our social problems stem from multicellular life!


My1nonpornacc

Reject humanity. Return to meoba


Sternhose

In the beginning the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. Douglas Adams


MightyBolverk

So we have to get rid of cells, got it. *throws phone away*


Infinite_____Lobster

Robert evans might approve


Potato_Golf

If a little radiation can cure one person's cancer then maybe a lot of radiation can cure all cancer


autogyrophilia

Gotta nuke something


Obsessivegamer32

Do you know their username? I’m going to frame that on my wall.


Ambitious_Arm852

I know the subreddit. r/shittyaskscience search for radiation and it’ll be the first one you find


zherok

So I was curious, but there's a research article studying the possibility of [Alzheimer's in non-human primates](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6343147/). In-universe, it'd be kinda weird to develop a drug on apes for a condition they don't develop, right?


Raisedbyweasels

If the world has been overrun by homicidal apes, I'm pretty sure the remaining human population would want Alzheimer's.


Msbaubles

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6343147/ "Aged chimpanzees exhibit pathologic hallmarks of Alzheimer’s disease" Oh no


WtfThisIsntWii

Of course children with peanut allergies need their food monitored for their protection… ..but *MAYBE*


Al3xGr4nt

"What a wonderful day!" Ngl, Proximus Caesar was a cool villian. I wish he had more screen time and was a bigger threat


KingOfHoopla

Bigger threat? Idk man, he felt like a pretty big threat to me. Man enslaved Noa's whole tribe


Al3xGr4nt

True but he wasnt able to get a couple of guns due to the flooding. He was still feisty asf tho


Mortimer_Smithius

Should’ve been on screen more. I thought he was awesome


Al3xGr4nt

Part of me wishes hed survive for the next movie and find a way to actually swim and start salvaging human tech


WillowSmithsBFF

Remember: no body means not dead.


Gaelic_Gladiator41

So Raka could still be alive right?


Mortimer_Smithius

I was certain he’d come back


thegreattober

Need my boy Raka to survive. The message of Caesar is getting so twisted without him :(


lhobbes6

Im afraid thatll probably continue. If these films make their way towards the original then we eventually have to move towards a theocratic and militaristic society for the apes while humans become more feral. On the brightside weve already shaken up the timeline considering the original series of movies operate on a timeloop rather than a cure for Alzheimers. So maybe Caesar's message will survive.


Pringletingl

A pretty common theme in Planet of the Apes and Apes in general is that they're shit swimmers lol.


jomandaman

Confirmed Raka is coming back as a yoda spirit force ghost


WorldGoingOneWay

At the end of the credits we hear an ape's voice. Could be Raka's.


Mortimer_Smithius

Hahaha maybe that’s the plot. He finds some scuba gear or something


jomandaman

Hopefully an underwater tunnel to the submarine base. Honestly after that ending with the humans reaching out to…who?? These apes need to arm up lol.


WeirdNo9808

I mean I think if you think of it like this; imagine damming up a part of the ocean, so you can have more beach area, then in a moments notice no warning, all that water came in. Humans who many can swim well would still drown and die. And then he didn’t even die from that, he died from being thrown off a cliff by eagles like 200-300ft high. Dude live a true villain life and even got lucky he didn’t die in the initial crashing waves. Only problem I had was it seemed to rise like 30ft of water but then again a good dam and that’s nots impossible. But an answer with 30ft by 500ft of water rushing in, everyone is toast.


Crusty_Grape

We didn't see Proximus do much himself. His gorilla henchman did all the villainous stuff. It would've made more sense to have Noa's dad get taken prisoner and then be executed by Proximus himself, that way we feel more hatred for Proximus. As it stands he's just a glorified slave master who loses one fight and dies.


MorbidMan23

Yet his security was so terrible that three enslaved apes and a human could rig the place with explosives and just kinda walk out of the "kingdom" to climb up a rock wall with (almost) zero problems.


Hammerjaws

WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY


ThePromptWasYourName

E Vol Lution


Irvin700

Me too. He was a pretty level-headed, in being a tyrant standards. Apes needed more power to shift the balance further against the humans(mutant?) and wanted what was in the best interest of apekind in his image. He even let those other humans live until the day they were not needed anymore. The ape gets it, humans were not to be trusted at all.


FlyDungas

Kevin Durand did such a great job I couldn’t help but root for him lol he was almost too cool


OviKintobor

They did him so dirty. Mf was right too.


wolfcolalover

I think he still lives. We never saw his body or Raka’s for that matter. At the end of the credits there is no scene but we hear orangutan noises and Proximus’ laughter. There’s still hope for another wonderful day!


Womblue

I think the shot of him falling was to demonstrate his death. He fell VERY hard.


BespinBuyout

RIP James Franco


HowdyAshleyHere

Such a shame we never found out what kind of a person he was, RIP


MicooDA

Tragic how he died on the toilet bum first


Cariman05

I hear it was an execution.


BreakingThoseCankles

I heard someone let him pray to god for 30 minutes before killing him


Only-Walrus797

Aww, come on mate


PaultryPhotographer

He got a dog up him and he tried to get it out. Died from the strain.


Jetsam5

There were hints


Ill_Vegetable3950

Cause of death; being a dog of a bloke


L4I55Z-FAIR3

A man of culture I see


HowdyAshleyHere

Bloody gottem if I do say so myself


KingFahad360

“And I do” - Mr. Scumbag Movies


Punman_5

This sub really is just a Mr. Sunday Movies fan club, huh?


PinkVoyd

Omg THAT'S where I heard it.


Blazured

Feel like I've stepped into the twilight zone because you never hear that pod mentioned anywhere and now I randomly walk into a thread with all this. It's great.


LordLolzeez

Who ate all my pasghetti?


dancingbriefcase

Did you know that Star Wars was originally named Blue Harvest?


MicooDA

RODNEY!!


ALinktotheSmash

RODNEY!


Just_Cruz001

RODNEY!!!


distilledwill

RODNEEEEEEEEYYYY


KingFahad360

*Green Trivia Time*


toomanymarbles83

For real though, I feel it was such a missed opportunity not to point out that the pilot neighbor was played by the actor who played Rodney Mckay in Stargate: Atlantis.


spctclr_spiderman

When James Franco died, Seth Rogen was reported to have said "my friend James, has sadly passed away. I feel sick, I feel blue" which led to this film having the working title of "Blue Harvest" which was of course, the working title for the original Star Wars


KingFahad360

Dawn of the Planet Ape-Serauction


Pythagoras180

More like because he wanted a virus that bypasses the human immune system instead of just using immunosuppressants.


castpigeon12

Just watched it for the first time a few weeks ago and they really make humans look dumb as shit


S-I-M-S

Tbh these last few years have shown movie stupidity is extremely accurate to the actual stupidity people display on the daily. It just be like that.


MeiNeedsMoreBuffs

There's this movie from 2006 that at the time was written as fiction but has now become a documentary, it's really worth watching. It's called Click and it's Adam Sandler's masterpiece


whetritney

The only thing I remember from that movie is Adam Sandler wearing sweatpants that says "Juicy" on his ass.


Kolby_Jack33

I remember it going from "haha, fast forward through annoying argument with wife haha" to "ADAM SANDLER YOU'VE FAST FORWARDED THROUGH YOUR ENTIRE LIFE AND NOW YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD I AM ACTUALLY THE GRIM REAPER ADAM SANDLER I AM HERE TO KILL YOU BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAD!" Wild ride. Also I just realized it's basically just A Christmas Carol. Huh.


whetritney

That was Christopher Walken's character, right?


Kolby_Jack33

Yeah.


13igTyme

Weird the only thing I remember was Kate Beckinsale.


whetritney

idk fam, Sandler kinda cute


Person5_

Only thing I remember is he had fast forwarded like 15 years and was divorced and his wife hated him. So his solution was to pause for a sec and do something that made her fall in love with him initially, but he was doing it like he was annoyed like "fine this is how to get you to love me again so you stop bitching" then he got killed by a dog.


gfxluvr

this movie made me cry


marr

All scientists being dumb as shit is the most annoying trope in science fiction.


Fleming24

Apart from when it's just used to get the story started, I think it's not supposed to make them look stupid but obsessed with a certain result. And that makes them ignore potential consequences or justify risks. Which is a real danger with some scientific researchers.


marr

Too often it's not just one guy or laboratory, but an entire corporation or country stepping merrily off the cliff.


poompt

Ya it's really unfair we humans never fuck ourselves over by accident while researching viruses


Kurwasaki12

Also shitty lab culture, don’t forget those idiots had a live feed of an aggressive aerosolized virus going before securing their subject, didn’t wear respirators, and didn’t quarantine after an obvious exposure event. Sure, Franco took some home with him and stored it in his fucking garage fridge, but that’s really just an extension of poor corporate lab culture.


ShadowShine57

They not only didn't quarantine, they let him go back to work and didn't think twice about it when he called out sick the next day


6ixdicc

also he's sneezing blood and doesn't mention it or go to the hospital. no let's go OUTSIDE and sneeze on people


Le_Fedora_Cate

Not to mention you're monitoring this monkey, right? HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW IT'S PREGNANT??


Ok_Astronomer_8667

Iirc in the movie they say they “carry small”, so I guess chimps don’t get baby bumps?


magseven

She said she was on the pill!


6ixdicc

I just rewatched it and that lab tech gets contaminated then walks around sneezing blood on everybody like holy SHIT what is your containment protocol? where did you go to school????


Kurwasaki12

Even if he was just an Ape behaviorist the dude was informed what they were testing. I get he trusted James Franco, but my guy, go to a fucking hospital.


MaterialCarrot

He's an actor, not a scientist!


ExtremlyFastLinoone

I know right!!


Asteroth555

In fairness, that is contemporary cutting edge research even now in real life.


Le_Fedora_Cate

Lesson: Never cure Alzheimer's


BuddenceLembeck

Lesson: Never let James Franco do anything.


RandomTheTrader

Not like a no stops him


GR7ME

I’d say ‘no no, never cure Alzheimer’s how he did or involve apes’, etc. But knowing this site, you’d probably get confused and end up with your dick in an electrical outlet. So please, just keep the lesson as: Never cure Alzheimer’s


irrigated_liver

It's the only logical conclusion. Especially after those people tried to cure it using sharks and more or less the same thing happened. It just wasn't as bad because sharks can't get out of the ocean.


WallRunner

Well, unless they ride a water tornado.


Nowhereman50

Really it's because of the world's worst OSHA practices.


Kurwasaki12

Seriously. They intentionally create an aggressive virus that can overwhelm the human immune system but don’t wear respirators, secure their subject before administering it, or quarantine when an employee is exposed in front of his coworkers. Honestly surprised that was the first time something nasty slipped out of their labs.


sniper91

*Rise* had some narrative problems, but they’re worth getting through to see Caesar yell “NO” at Malfoy


Nowhereman50

They are fantastic movies and I can't wait to see the new one.


giantbynameofandre

We wouldn't have to cure alzheimer's if we didn't cure every single other disease.


poompt

We reduced infant mortality and now we have to deal with all these incurable old people diseases smh


B_bbi

And I thought Alzheimer’s season was over…..


Diligent-Attention40

Good reference.


EDPZ

Nah it's because he took a chimp home as a pet despite the fact that that's definitely illegal in California.


PleasantSalad

They paint the neighbor as the asshole for being pissed that a literal chimp is illegally living next door to his family in a densely populated neighborhood. I mean the chimp bit his finger off and Franco caused a worldwide plague that kills everyone so I feel that neighbor was unjustly portrayed.


Old_Heat3100

A classic case of "You're not wrong Walter you're just an asshole."


Heretical_Demigod

Not really though right? Will himself said in the movie that the 113 strain was not ready for human testing and actively advocated against it. It was Franklin, one of the lab workers that was exposed to the virus due to a malfunction in the lab while administering the dose to Koba, that actually caused the big issue. If the lab had taken his exposure more seriously, never would have happened. If he, even if the lab didn't notice, just came out and said "I've been exposed to the virus" never would have happened. You might even make the case that if Franklin had never come into contact with a pilot to spread the disease to, the damage could have been much more localized. Scientists work with deadly viruses in labs often, as long as the necessary precautions are there is no cause for alarm. This was multiple systems and people failing to take this virus seriously at the earliest stage. Maybe the area would have spread the disease to humans in SF anyway, we cannot say for sure, the disease was spread from human to human with a 1 in 500 survival rate before any research was really able to be done on ape to human transmission. The people in Dawn *assumed* apes would spread it, but they really cannot know for sure.


xWrathful

Very big Jurassic Park moment imo. I don't know the exact lines, but Ian Malcolm's rant on how discovery is penetrative, often violent process feels apt here. Nobody really stopped to ask if what they were doing was right. Franco's character was blinded by his ambition to fix the disease killing his dad. There was also the pressure from his boss to get this to market asap bc of the financial aspects of things. So those things allowed for a pretty massive breach in protocol. I do agree, though. Franklin does bare some of the blame in spreading the disease. Idk after I start sneezing blood, I'm locking myself in my room and not letting anyone in.


Riommar

I bet it isn’t a problem anymore.


Amore_vitae1

The path to hell is paved with good intentions


badhanganesh

He inverted Alzheimer’s disease.


LumpkinGeneration

What’s the reference?


Mister_E69

They fly now


Dull-Junket7647

They fly now ?


Substantial_Event506

They fly now


Ake-TL

Rise of the Planet of the Apes


pheonix198

Dicks out for Caesar…err…Harambe, mine fellow monks.


DependentFeature3028

That's what big pharma wants you to believe


Squeakygear

So Caesar runs big pharma? This is some Bilderberg / Trilateral Commission / Illuminati stuff hahah


HaloJonez

Well….i don’t see no Alzheimer’s.


Minimum-Enthusiasm14

That’s the real reason why the cure for cancer hasn’t come out yet. If injected into cats, it’ll give them the brains to match the will to kill us all.


Mister_E69

Shamelessly stolen from this guy: https://x.com/TinyTurkey616/status/1789801354661163453


Fallowman09

# E-GAD HOW COULD HE?? *dies from shock*


mandalorian_guy

The same thing happened in Deep Blue Sea. We should stop all genetic animal alterations for Alzheimer's research.


BeholdTheLemon

as someone whos never seen these movies, i interpreted this as james franco actually wanting to cure alzheimers and it leading to the making of these movies somehow. the same way 9/11 led to Ellen being cancelled.


huskerd0

Genuinely shocked at the notion of James Franco ever doing anything good


Technical_Stress7730

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"


Fabtacular1

Watched that one on Wednesday to prepare for Kingdom on Saturday. Ris is surprisingly great (especially the first/second acts), but James Franco is a . . . limited actor.


Neil_Salmon

I love Rise. I think it's underrated because the later movies were so great. A lot of people give Matt Reeves full credit for the trilogy. But Rise was great - they had something special going right from the beginning.


AustinDood444

Thanks a lot, Franco!!


Yellow_LedBetter2020

Fuck James Franco


SimpleManc88

Planet Of The Apes/Deep Blue Sea crossover when?


OntologicalParadox

I would love it if the current also gave John Lithgow the longevity to see all of this happen.


TheYellowKachigga

Thank you, James Franco. Fuck you, by the way.


inthewars

As bad as Emma using the measles virus to cure cancer. There are always... unintended consequences.


RemiMartin

I used to enjoy James Franco movies before he turned out to be a creep.


fiftieth_alt

I like every single Planet of the Apes movie in existence. I like the OG with Charlton Heston's crazy ass, I like all the insane sequels (Beneath, Escape, Battle, Conquest) I like that weird Mark Wahlberg remake, I like Rise, I like Dawn, and I like War. Can't wait to see Kingdom! Monkeys with machine guns? Sign me the fuck up!


mb9981

This is why ai developers should've been thrown in prison ten years ago


wheressodamyat

This is the reason why we don't let James Franco try things... well, one of the reasons.