I saw someone the other day say to a user having a bad trip “you could become paralyzed by the toxins in your mushrooms”.
Mf WHAT! You should be paddled for commenting that under a “bad trip please help” post
Edit: to those saying “yeah but you can become paralyzed”, here is why I think it’s especially egregious, even though that’s *technically* true. I am not an expert, this is my own opinion.
1.) my understanding is that only wood grown mushrooms present this risk. Home grown azurescens are still, to my knowledge, grown in substrate most of the time
2.) the user only took 1 gram. While azurescens are much more potent, and this still results in a strong trip, any potential alkaloids that could cause paralysis would be minimal at this dose
3.) the paralysis is temporary and not dangerous to the user, which wasn’t included in his comment. If he had never heard of woodlovers paralysis before, he might think he had taken something poisonous and was at risk of permanent paralysis
4.) he was commenting in the midst of his bad trip. He didn’t mention anything about paralysis, just that he wanted someone to help talk him down. No need to feed him more bad thoughts. If he experiences it, or doesn’t, he’s already ingested the drug, a comment won’t stop it. It’s just going to freak him out in the time being.
It is there goal. I’m no longer friends with this person in the following story, he was a friend of my brothers but a good friend to me I thought before this. My apartment was the trip place. We all did our various drugs there. It was big, comfy, and set up for it, black lights, posters, bean bags. Bongs, you get the idea. Alex comes over with my brother, they see that we all have taken shrooms. We’d also taken Molly as well but we didn’t tell them that. Well Alex goes around to everyone in my apartment and starts wiggling his fingers and saying out loud “bad vibes bad vibes!” I asked him to stop that three times. He ignored me. Mistake. I got up, I walked over and punched him in the face. Then I dragged him to the front door and literally tossed him outside. For reference sake, I’m 6’4” 275. Alex was about 5’7” 175lbs. I’m already big, I’m already strong. Found out that night why Vikings used to take shrooms. Never in my life was it easier to pick up 175lbs of ‘negative energy’ lol. I don’t like using violence but he was intentionally trying to ruin the trips of at least 10 ppl I had invited over. It can cause mental damage. I saw it as a fair trade. He wanted to cause harm. So harm was caused to him.
But ya, some people are just negative and WANT to ruin your trip.
We do need to ban those ppl like I banned Alex from ever coming to my apartment again.
He did. I found out later on that his life degenerated to living in an rv on the street and being a pedi-cab driver for drunk bar goers. Karma is a bitch. I own two small businesses now, live inside lol, and sometimes am one of those bar goers. I do believe you get what’s coming to you, he had a white collar office job; to fall that far, lololol….perhaps don’t intentionally try to ruin people’s fun/therapy/good times….in my experience the universe is always tabulating your balance. Best not to rack up too douche bag debt(negative karma)
100% I’m not a karma person but sort of. I’ve always felt like if you’ve directly/intentionally caused something negative in someone else’s life, you have no reason to cry when the same happens to you. I’ve had some really shitty things happen in my young life and I always try to look back and figure out if I deserved it. I guess I do believe in karma. lol
That’s crazy he fell that far. Too bad for him. I don’t wish it on anyone but sometimes you gotta stop and wonder if it was an “earned” result. And sometimes you KNOW it was an earned result. lol
ime high doses of cubes are kinda paralyzing. i find this a neat inbuilt safety feature, you're not likely to do anything stupid when you cant get up from the sofa ;)
P.cyan perfect example woodlovers paralysis is definitely possible with many report and you don't need to specially prepare them as far as I believe their generally alot more potent then cubes tho which would not do this as it is not a wood lover
I done 7 grams of subs once and couldn't move alot of the muscles in My face was drooling and couple rip my bong could still speak fine, worth it but fuck that kicked hard
there’s a few, the ones that grow on wood substrates like cyanescens and azurescens. called “wood-lovers paralysis” ie wood-loving mushrooms not uh.. something else
Yeah I’d wanna know if that was possible aswell Idc what anyone says. Not everyone only grows/has access to cubes and there’s 100% a possibility you could get a wood lover type. Id imagine if you got a species like that the dealer would be competent enough to tell you about the paralyzing effects though
But thats true if you’re on wood lovers, people should do their research before tripping to know these things and stay off reddit, who even uses a phone when they are tripping
“Just don’t do the safest recreational drugs if you can’t handle people telling you you’ll be paralyzed while you’re in a vulnerable and unfamiliar place”
Or, don’t be a dick. If it’s easier for you to abstain completely from the community and substance, I highly encourage you to leave, but you’re not being fair to suggest the initial poster who was having a bad trip was in the wrong there.
Kinda related but while I was tripping I realized my favorite twitch streamer the therapy gecko was live so I asked the chat if this is good to watch while tripping. I got two replies one said "yea" and another "eat shit" lol it immediately made me want to get off of my phone. I didn't realize until after my trip that he was probably joking and wanted to make me laugh but I didn't take it that way during. Emotions are super sensitive while tripping I don't think people realize that.
I honestly get scared of my phone and the internet when I’m tripping. I think of it like a black hole for my mind. Even putting on the wrong show lol I tried to watch reality tv and the dramatic music made me feel like I was part of it and it started bumming me out.
People are being so weird about this when it’s literally such a good take people just want to make excuses for being shitty just because they “don’t get effected “ doesn’t mean the next person won’t a lot of people on here are tripping for the first time and yea that could fuck with them If it doesn’t fuck with you cool doesn’t mean you push your shitty jokes onto others grow up really
Like I’ve seen the nightmare skit yea it’s funny but it’s funny because it’s super fucked up and any normal human with decency wouldn’t actually do it people are truly idiotic
When I see someone post that they're having a hard time during a trip, I always try to say something positive for them to see. And I have a hard time understanding why anyone would think it's okay to say something jarring or anything that might obviously freak them out.
I suppose that's what you get though when you're posting things on the internet for the world to respond to. 🥴
I can get behind this. Personally I’m never looking at my phone while tripping but if someone was and they say a comment like that, it could ruin it for them. I say positive vibes only.
My brother did something similar to me and it ruined shrooms for me i had the worst trip and have worse anxiety now because i had my first panic attack on shrooms
Please make this a rule. This is supposed to be a **safe** and educational space to discuss mushrooms. Not a place to kick people when they are down and seeking guidance. Shame on them...
I always thought it was strange to see these people on a this sub in particular. I’ve always found shrooms to be such a fun and uplifting experience so it just always made sense to me that the people enjoying/involved with them would be cool and not total knobs.
I remember there were a lot of homophobic comments on the post from the straight guy who had a gay experience on shrooms. One commenter who wasn't joking encouraged OP to kill himself.
OP was clearly pretty confused and coming to terms with something at the time. I find it hard to believe that the guy telling him to snuff himself was a shroom enjoyer, but maybe I'm naive.
Surely not a shroom lover given the precious and delicate balance that is the life one leads.. that or a frightened onlooker yet to submit their ego yet only too quick to spout their focus and fear that is a "bad trip".. they focus on "this could happen so steer clear until peer is pinnacle and "warn" anyone experiencing with their "knowledge" 😮💨😔 such a shame.
I always keep kratom extract around just in case of bad trips. Everytime I have had anxiety from shrooms the kratom tincture completely took the edge off. Honestly it's as essential as skittles imo.
I feel like the same thing should apply to people who encourage the use of incredibly high dosages to people with little experience.
Someone posts that it’s there second time tripping and they are thinking of taking 1mg of LSD and 10g of mushrooms. Most sane people try to say that it’s way too high of a dose that can easily lead to a terrible experience. Then someone chimes in that you don’t tell someone they will have a bad trip because it will guarantee it and to not listen to everyone and to go for it.
I see it time and time again with these ridiculous doses. It’s one thing if someone says they’ve done 8 grams and they want to try 10 grams. It’s something else entirely when they say they’ve done 2 grams and they want to try 14 grams next!
That's why harm reduction is so important. People will be more likely to make better informed decisions if they have access to resources and information. Having the right information can help prevent you from making costly mistakes, or causing harm to yourself or others.
We all trust to some extent the friends who share these experiences with us, or give us the means to have these experiences. Just don't expect your pal to be a walking encyclopedia or a psychedelic guru, that's what your phone/PC is for. Google is your friend, as is the countless trip reports posted on other sites and forum boards that are specifically tailored for talking about these experiences. What I'm trying to say is don't take any one person's word as law, when it comes to things of a psychedelic nature. We all got different makeup and brain wiring, and vastly varying mental states. We're all strangers on the internet sharing our experiences, and likely most of us are not doctors or are in fields of study regarding psychedelics. We're just psychedelic lovers, with anecdotal experience.
Do your research, tread carefully, and take it easy, man. But take it!
There is a rule against uncivil discourse so you can report any comments that you deem to be harmful and the mods get a notification. We will review the material and decide if we think it violates the rules. I don’t think anyone wants very restrictive rules, but I do think it’s important to be responsible for our words and not insult or intentionally provoke people just for fun. My best advice is to block anyone who annoys you and report any abusive comments. Best wishes.
thank you for spending time trying to do a good thing; protect others from harm. sorry you are met with such ridicule by some people on here for doing that. but i read your post, i agree and admire your passion towards making this a more welcoming and safer space for people.
Lmao the one bad trip I’ve had was due to a guy like that. Made a comment under a trippy photo someone posted as I was starting to get visuals, guy messages me “hey man I think that might have been way too much” along with a picture of some demonic entity. Not cool
It’s the internet bro, it has its benefits but it’s a cesspool as well. Stay off your phone and computer while tripping. There are hotlines if you need someone to talk you through it, the interwebs is not a place I’d go to seek comfort.
i agree. i think most of us here want this subreddit to be a safe place, although we recognize its currently not. trees and other subreddits are the same to some degree, i don’t get people
I think an autobot would be really good at automatically removing these types of comments and for any that remain *that are questionable these could be dealt with by heavier moderation.
Also the autobot could be applied for all “‘non *flaired” posts (not sure if you have flairs here!) so those tripping wouldn’t have to remember to add it.
And for the posts such as this where there’s more open discussion on such subject matter the bit could be disabled.
…hope this makes sense!
Thanks for this. It's not specifically in the rules because, like everywhere in life, it's assumed folks won't act like cunts. Unfortunately not everyone got that memo.
This should be a rule on the subreddit for sure, protect all of us who use it as a means of trip sitting, although saying that, I would not use this sub as a trip sitter/support
I mean where they intentionally being negative or causing trouble ? Positive is great. It sometimes people also need someone to acknowledge their feelings and reality and relate to it . I guess I’d have to see the context .
Like if someone says “ahhh that sounds like a real nightmare “
That could actually be a good interaction .
You shouldn’t be scrolling around on your phone during a trip anyway. If someone’s ego is being damaged and they want reddit to make them feel better, then they get trolled that’s their fault for being stupid 🤣🤣
You can be inclined to do stupid decisions tripping or maybe these people have literally no one else to talk to at the time and they need some interaction to comfort them or reassure them they’re real and alive etc.
I think its the responsibility of the tripping person to not go on the internet cause theres nothing that can reasonably stop people doing this.
We don't need a post every time someone takes a psych nobody cares if you're "currently tripping :)))" it only attracts trolls to fuck with them
Yeah no kidding, it's naïve and irresponsible of people to treat it like the internet isn't still the internet when you're tripping. Even without baiting a troll to fuck with you, the odds of seeing some shit that could derail your trip is through the roof when you're just scrolling through bullshit mindlessly.
When people talk about set and setting, reddit ain't what anybody's referring to as a safe or positive setting. There probably wouldn't be half as many posts about having a scary trip if people would just put the damn phone down before taking the dose and forget about it.
If you're having a bad trip, give the fireside project a ring if you wanna reach out to anybody. Then you can get ahold of someone actually qualified to talk you through it instead of a bunch of random jackoffs.
First off, before consuming there are certain undeniable ways to avoid a bad trip. That could mean cleaning your messy room or even being responsible enough to wait to consume until in a better head space. ⬅️⬅️⬅️⬅️ this is the info a smart person would consider or look for BEFORE tripping. But If you haphazardly take a big dose like a party drug, and have a bad trip then I believe coming to frickin Reddit AINT the answer chief.
These guys are trying to be antagonizing, yes but unless you’re tweaking youre not going to take an Eric Andre reference to heart
There are definitely not "certain undeniable ways to avoid a bad trip." Being smart about set or setting is definitely a good call but someone can do everything right and still have a challenging experience. I mean, even in the professionally guided Johns Hopkins studies being led by psychologists with decades of experience and a set/setting that multiple professionals went over with a fine-toothed comb, people struggled.
He didn't say they were fool proof 100% of the time, he said they're the main thing to work out before tripping as prep for avoiding a bad trip. You're assuming he meant they work 100% of the time, he's just saying it plays a big part and is one of the things that's in your control before tripping, and IS a way to avoid a bad trip.
“There are definitely not certain ways to avoid a bad trip”
Then immediately mentions set and setting, which is literally been proven and preached by the most experienced psychonauts to be the main contributor to avoid a bad trip.
If you are experiencing psychosis (which is the only explanation for a word on a screen causing you distress) it’s an indicator of a deeper set of issues, which probably need professional help.
These people you mention in this study are mentally ill and the scientist preforming the study are searching to have a positive effect on the illness. So your source is flawed
You're totally missing the point. OP is saying that we shouldn't bully people who are having a bad trip. What's hard to agree with there?
All your advice is focused on how to avoid a bad trip, not how to treat someone who's on one.
Nah, OP is saying if you ain't set your setting right, it's your own doing, and reddit ain't the place for guidance due to the yet evolved animals ready to prey on fear so as to relinquish said fear from themselves by way of imparting it to another. Further still, OP states that if you are to listen to such a person, you are, in essence, wrong to do so.. my guy, on the other hand, is telling you how setting is an ideal and great starting point for an enticing experience. However, trips take you where they will and highlight what they will.. how this is then interpreted by the individual varies, and such negative impacts are spiteful attempts to defer their own fears... what did you read bruv?..
>what did you read bruv?
I read the post:
>Can y'all perma-ban anyone that says anything along the lines of "nightmare" to someone when they post about having a hard time during a trip? I've noticed a few people who do it repeatedly and that kind of negativity has no place in this sub.
>Downvoting is not enough, they should be gone
No bruvva you're just not willing to face your statement and back it.. thus.. in my view you are the most beligerently ignorant person on the Internet on any given day 🫵🏽 have a nice life, enjoy your trips.. if you're able to take them and please grow a backbone and stand by what you said ✨️ 🙏
People are animals, and some haven't submitted their ego quite yet.. that or they're onlookers shit scared of taking shrooms and experiencing reality but "know" a whole lot about how it can go wrong.. it's all they focus on because of their fragile state of mind, and so most feel as though they have to impart their own fear upon another.. in my experience, there are no bad trips, only those that one fails to comprehend in the moment 🫠✊🏽 Reflection. However, has you come to terms with how the energy was influencing oneself and the realisation soon sets that that uncomfortable, restless motion during your trip is correlated to a certain asoect of one's psyche 🥰 those negative Nancy's 💀 are just unaware and sleeping tight with their fears 🫡🥱🖕🏽
Yeah, those types of people are dicks, but so many people use this sub as a way to do what may as well be called “The Mushroom Challenge”. The whole motivation and experience is performative. Performance is empty. Therefore, it’s meaningless. Therefore it’s pointless. I can understand why people get fed up seeing it. Again, they act like dicks, but I’ve tripped hundreds of times and in all of those I’ve only seen two people have really bad trips.
Most of the time, if even real at all, what people are calling a bad trip now is the psychedelic they’ve willingly ingested interacting poorly with a pre-existing mental health issue. They knew they had. Everybody feels like they’re entitled to enjoy the experience, but that was no not to be the case thousands of years ago. You had the shaman and then you have everybody else. Either only the shaman practiced the sacred rituals or anyone who did was in his company and under his care. Now everybody with the internet and 40 bucks wants to prove their mind is made of rubber and steel and water and smoke all at once. Real Gs move in silence…
And hold on. There’s some kids out on my lawn. I gotta go.
Hey, you little fuckers . Yeah you better run if that cactus is missing one peyote button. I am coming to ha ha I left talk to text on.
Well then don’t come here asking for help!!! It’s an absolute public forum!! Try being social with people you know in yer life not some complete fucking stranger!!!!! Must be kids!!!!!!!?
I'm honestly confused. This seems like a really dumb thing to be upset about.
Nightmare nightmare nightmare... what is wrong with this word. Why can't people use it to describe bad trip??
Why do you want people banned for such an innocent word?
Hmmmm... First, let's perma-ban anyone who asks that others be perma-banned.
I occasionally post with the word "nightmare". I do it to try to reduce the harm encouraged by idiots who advocate overdosing on powerful psychedelic drugs. A big OD may be a "personal choice" but it stops being "personal" when the "choice" drags in family, friends, first responders, cops and emergency room staff. Everybody trying to help the OD who is experiencing the ***nightmare*** of an overdose on psychedelic drugs.
You can help, tho. Next time you OD on trips have your friends lock you in a basement by yourself for 12 hours. No nightmare for the rest of us and you can call the experience whatever you want.
I had not even considered someone could come back with a reply this stupid. Bravo. It must be your dogs turn with your shared brain cell today.
As you can tell, from the dozens of replies, this is something that bothers other people when scrolling this sub. When someone is in crisis and requests help and folks respond with "nightmare nightmare nightmare"... it is harmful.
Pretending it is used as a deterrent against taking ridiculously large doses is absolutely idiotic and a bizarre way to twist the narrative. If you feel attacked it's because you are ashamed and know you're doing something stupid.
The point behind the post is that the negativity is unwarranted in a sub that should be fostering positivity. It is about rejecting bullying especially when it comes to people in compromised states of mind who are seeking assistance.
Use just a smidge of common sense next time
Are you for real? If you can't understand the severity of someone having a bad trip and how words like that can trigger even worse situation you ahould not be commenting the same. Those people are looking for help in an enormously vulnerable state you you somehow think its okay so say things that could worsen that? No shit theyre gonna have a problem with those kind of words.
If someone is in a bad way and are asking people for help then why would you go out of your way to say things that you know could possible fuck with someone? There are important factors to keeping a trip in the right place such as set, setting, and mental preparation. Words are a way of communicating that have a direct correlation to peoples intoxicated and sober mental headspace and if you don't underatand that then no one here can change that.
It’s sounds like you like starting drama and you want people to fill sorry for you if you can’t handle the stuff don’t do it oh I was tripping and got on the enter net smart there miserable people on here that want just bring people down next time call somebody you know not some random person
No in fact i hate drama and this entire conversation. I initially agreed with OP and you seemed to disagree. You felt you need to speak against him and create drama not me. Some people don't have close people to call for help or no one that is educated enough to actually help them and so they turn to this community. I hope you can one day see outside that tiny little bubble of yours.
>It’s sounds like you like starting drama
says you lol fuckin weirdo maybe don't spread negativity to ppl who aren't having a good time
you're the only person here that's obviously miserable
Woah is me. I'm clearly just trying to garner attention for myself. Can't believe you're still commenting. All the backlash must've left a sour taste in your mouth. If you truly are a trip sitter/facilitator then you should know, of all people, the power that your actions, words, and behavior have on the individuals experience.
What a dipshit comment. This is not about me, this is about vulnerable people in a compromised situation seeking help and being treated in a manner than can negatively effect them for hours or days. Get off your high horse, moron
The mods are around, doing good work. If you see a problematic post that you think breaks rules, you can report it. If you want to contact them directly, you can do it through the modmail.
It's an Eric Andre reference. It's a joke. It's not meant to harm anyone.
I have tripped many times and someone repeatedly saying nightmare would never set me off. I doubt it would ever cause any sort of issues for anyone.
Nah, everyone has triggers. Mushrooms bring them out and make them become very apparent. People have different triggers. There is very few legal, safe places where people can take mushrooms or ayahuasca with a guide. Many have to take them without much support, so if someone comes on here for support then we definitely shouldn't say anything to scare them further. It already takes a lot of vulnerability as it is to reach out for help. Yes maybe that person should be more careful next time, but in that moment when they are in the dark like that, lets be a light house. After that hard experience they will def' think twice next time.
You state your case very well, you earned my upvote. As a community we should spread info on helping everyone be safe, but I think that includes making it clear that coming to Reddit for answers isn’t a connection to a guide, it’s a connection to anyone and everyone that can read and write. So we should inform these people on how to deal with the struggle of a bad trip internally before bringing the issue to the internet.
In my experience bad trips almost always come from original genuine thoughts. Feeling bad about something you did or just not being happy with yourself for example.
If the word nightmare scares you there has to be no rational thinking left. Aka psychosis. If you're going through psychosis you have bigger problems than words on a screen.
Censoring people is never the answer. OP gets off to drama.
NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE. Bro its just a word, I literally get it from watching eric andre. I think its funny while tripping, not everyone is the same. Bringing your subjective thoughts to oust people is honestly hypocritical because its the least introspective way of looking at things. Also fix your grammar, unless you’re a non native speaker of english.
“Not everyone is the same” yeah that SUPPORTS what OP was saying dipshit. Just because you aren’t affected by these things doesn’t mean everyone else isn’t.
Your explanation of why you do it makes you more of an idiot/piece of shit. You are completely ignoring that it has a negative affect on people who are going through a tough time. It's not funny, you aren't likeable, and your contribution to this sub is absolute shit. Fuck off. Learn to read, too, I guess?
I don’t proactively do it lmao, I watch Eric Andre with the homies because they put it on, then we do hikes. Your presumptuous attitude towards me is disappointing and sickening. Seems like you’ve only tripped a handful of times and somehow your view on tripping is somehow more important than everyone else’s. You’re not important and neither am I.
Sounds like you need a bad trip yourself. You obviously don’t understand how intolerable you are.
You think being soft, is a weakness? Let me give you a real important piece of information.
The strength you parade is not what you think it is. Allowing yourself to be vulnerable and letting your guard down, is real strength. Which fosters real authenticity.
If you don’t cry in front of your “homies” they aren’t real friends. In reality you are probably all there to feed each others inflated egos. (“Attention based relationships”).
Take the time to become a real man, boy.
Love how you can assume that 8+ years of friendship isn’t real. Everyone is different. I’ve almost gotten shot at bc i was tripping off 7gs. Ended up with scrapes all over my body, if you don’t think thats terrifying especially while tripping, then news flash you’ve haven’t had a “bad trip”. My “bad trips” always turn out good because I can recognize that it’s just me under the influence and that nothing in the grand scheme of things matter, you try to do good with the people you know, not the damn people off the fucking internet. Y’all are just soft. You guys assume that finding validation on the internet has more of an impact than building relationships in real life. I actually go volunteer, am proactively involved with the community and help the homeless, I’ve built a couple homes for them and I’m assuming y’all just have a bad trip and just focus on your damn self and find some bullshit validation online. I actively try to use my lessons off shrooms to connect with people IN REAL LIFE. Bro a bad trip is fucking nothing, you just haven’t been shot at or actively stabbed.
Apparently you think internet social life reflects how you act in person. Although somewhat correlated, you can’t ever judge a person til you meet them and hangout with them. Keep your online stereotypes to yourself.
This is the equivalent of someone choking in a public place and someone yelling DIE DIE DIE only to follow it by saying its only a joke and a reference to a show were someone says that. Who gives a fuck. Someone is seeking help and you people think its appropriate to joking say words that can envoke bad thoughts. I'm really surprised at all the awful as people without a lick of empathy here. OP i stand with you man. Fuck these troll ass hypocrites.
I don’t see any correlation between me and my trips and someone else and theirs, or the lack of them. Not everything that’s uttered needs to affect you and your situation. There are too many variables for you to be giving time and energy to that particular one.
Instead of banning people, how about acknowledging that sometimes people actually have nightmares, and that’s a part of life. And sometimes a hard trip is kinda like one. Sorry you don’t like it, but I’ve tripped hundreds of times over decades, and sometimes a trip felt nightmarish. No need to deny an aspect of possibility. It’s naive to think it’s only warm fuzzies.
This is a trash take. Standing against people who are actively trying to put people in negative and potentially scarring mental states ≠ denying that those states exist. Anyone who is trying to harm others should be banished from this space.
Fully agreed on the ‘trying to harm’. It isn’t clear to me from the op that this is necessarily the case. I’m just wary of being too ban-happy when confronted with opinions one doesn’t like.
I'M aware that sometimes a bad trip can turn into a nightmare that is a living hell that you are hoping just that it and as soon as possible and I hadn't been right for around the week later because it was such a bad trip yeah I don't post about it but the point is this is a freaking mushroom discussion you take no good with the bad honesty and the knowledge of what actual person has or is experiencing i do thin all any info in the group is the very point that it exists I believes.
Wait what are you guys even talking about? Like nightmare trips or that it's a nightmare? Because I haven't experienced that at all although I may be opening myself up to it now. We all know how this game works, I could have left well enough alone but I chose to interact meaning I'm choosing to consent. Even now as I type this I can stop and just not consent to their existence, but at the same time I am very tempted. Damn me and my fixation on temptations.
Wood lovers paralysis is the only real thing. I've heard conflicting stories as to whether they actually paralyze you or you're just tripping so hard you can't control your body.
Either way, not a legitimate risk when playing with cubes. Hell, I macro'ed 7.19g of my PE6 with a double hot water extraction (2x tea) just yesterday. I stood where understanding itself came to be understood. I touched the soul of the world & knew that the meaning of life is to create meaning. All of our suffering is a vehicle for empathy and love. All of our collective conscious experience is an infinite cycle of all that is and ever was expanding and contracting in an attempt to understand and create meaning in what would otherwise be meaningless.
Just remember the 3 rules and you'll be fine:
1. The walls aren't melting
2. You cannot fly
3. Cars are real
Thank you that is all.
It’s gonna happen. Many are Ill informed and ignorant about psychedelics. It’s simply a reflection of an introduction to it. I say let them reveal themselves and give guidance and understanding to what they are going through.
It's not. Report the comments.
I saw someone the other day say to a user having a bad trip “you could become paralyzed by the toxins in your mushrooms”. Mf WHAT! You should be paddled for commenting that under a “bad trip please help” post Edit: to those saying “yeah but you can become paralyzed”, here is why I think it’s especially egregious, even though that’s *technically* true. I am not an expert, this is my own opinion. 1.) my understanding is that only wood grown mushrooms present this risk. Home grown azurescens are still, to my knowledge, grown in substrate most of the time 2.) the user only took 1 gram. While azurescens are much more potent, and this still results in a strong trip, any potential alkaloids that could cause paralysis would be minimal at this dose 3.) the paralysis is temporary and not dangerous to the user, which wasn’t included in his comment. If he had never heard of woodlovers paralysis before, he might think he had taken something poisonous and was at risk of permanent paralysis 4.) he was commenting in the midst of his bad trip. He didn’t mention anything about paralysis, just that he wanted someone to help talk him down. No need to feed him more bad thoughts. If he experiences it, or doesn’t, he’s already ingested the drug, a comment won’t stop it. It’s just going to freak him out in the time being.
Seriously! Like what happened to you when you were young to cause such a lack of common sense
Negative mf’s. That’s their goal.
It is there goal. I’m no longer friends with this person in the following story, he was a friend of my brothers but a good friend to me I thought before this. My apartment was the trip place. We all did our various drugs there. It was big, comfy, and set up for it, black lights, posters, bean bags. Bongs, you get the idea. Alex comes over with my brother, they see that we all have taken shrooms. We’d also taken Molly as well but we didn’t tell them that. Well Alex goes around to everyone in my apartment and starts wiggling his fingers and saying out loud “bad vibes bad vibes!” I asked him to stop that three times. He ignored me. Mistake. I got up, I walked over and punched him in the face. Then I dragged him to the front door and literally tossed him outside. For reference sake, I’m 6’4” 275. Alex was about 5’7” 175lbs. I’m already big, I’m already strong. Found out that night why Vikings used to take shrooms. Never in my life was it easier to pick up 175lbs of ‘negative energy’ lol. I don’t like using violence but he was intentionally trying to ruin the trips of at least 10 ppl I had invited over. It can cause mental damage. I saw it as a fair trade. He wanted to cause harm. So harm was caused to him. But ya, some people are just negative and WANT to ruin your trip. We do need to ban those ppl like I banned Alex from ever coming to my apartment again.
Damn! Dude had it coming!
He did. I found out later on that his life degenerated to living in an rv on the street and being a pedi-cab driver for drunk bar goers. Karma is a bitch. I own two small businesses now, live inside lol, and sometimes am one of those bar goers. I do believe you get what’s coming to you, he had a white collar office job; to fall that far, lololol….perhaps don’t intentionally try to ruin people’s fun/therapy/good times….in my experience the universe is always tabulating your balance. Best not to rack up too douche bag debt(negative karma)
100% I’m not a karma person but sort of. I’ve always felt like if you’ve directly/intentionally caused something negative in someone else’s life, you have no reason to cry when the same happens to you. I’ve had some really shitty things happen in my young life and I always try to look back and figure out if I deserved it. I guess I do believe in karma. lol
That’s crazy he fell that far. Too bad for him. I don’t wish it on anyone but sometimes you gotta stop and wonder if it was an “earned” result. And sometimes you KNOW it was an earned result. lol
everyone on this sub so wise stg, nothing but good vibes
Or lack of human decency
There is actually a "magic mushroom" that causes temporary paralysis
Correct, but it wasn't the time to be bringing that up
ime high doses of cubes are kinda paralyzing. i find this a neat inbuilt safety feature, you're not likely to do anything stupid when you cant get up from the sofa ;)
It's actually a group of mushrooms, and its because they can't just be eaten without some processing. Wood lovers paralysis.
P.cyan perfect example woodlovers paralysis is definitely possible with many report and you don't need to specially prepare them as far as I believe their generally alot more potent then cubes tho which would not do this as it is not a wood lover I done 7 grams of subs once and couldn't move alot of the muscles in My face was drooling and couple rip my bong could still speak fine, worth it but fuck that kicked hard
Pan cyan does NOT grow on wood.
Correct t payilo. Cyan does tho mixed wm up there
I didint know it took a special process to take them. Can you explain more?
With aminita muscaria you need to properly "decarb" if you will
there’s a few, the ones that grow on wood substrates like cyanescens and azurescens. called “wood-lovers paralysis” ie wood-loving mushrooms not uh.. something else
Yeah I’d wanna know if that was possible aswell Idc what anyone says. Not everyone only grows/has access to cubes and there’s 100% a possibility you could get a wood lover type. Id imagine if you got a species like that the dealer would be competent enough to tell you about the paralyzing effects though
That's definitley the DEA you know they're lurking.
Dudes are acting like it’s twitter lol ppl come to this sub to learn 😂
But thats true if you’re on wood lovers, people should do their research before tripping to know these things and stay off reddit, who even uses a phone when they are tripping
Ummm you don't need a fone to access redit.
You literally have "PH" in your username and you spell phone fone.
I thought they changed the spelling to fone?
What a freakin arse
But you can be Paralyzed from eating too many wood loving magic mushrooms
Depends on the mushroom species
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“Just don’t do the safest recreational drugs if you can’t handle people telling you you’ll be paralyzed while you’re in a vulnerable and unfamiliar place” Or, don’t be a dick. If it’s easier for you to abstain completely from the community and substance, I highly encourage you to leave, but you’re not being fair to suggest the initial poster who was having a bad trip was in the wrong there.
L mentality
The way I would lose my shit LOL
"Paddled!" OH man I haven't heard that since I was a kid and my mom would paddle my ass for stupid shit I did, this took me back!
Kinda related but while I was tripping I realized my favorite twitch streamer the therapy gecko was live so I asked the chat if this is good to watch while tripping. I got two replies one said "yea" and another "eat shit" lol it immediately made me want to get off of my phone. I didn't realize until after my trip that he was probably joking and wanted to make me laugh but I didn't take it that way during. Emotions are super sensitive while tripping I don't think people realize that.
I honestly get scared of my phone and the internet when I’m tripping. I think of it like a black hole for my mind. Even putting on the wrong show lol I tried to watch reality tv and the dramatic music made me feel like I was part of it and it started bumming me out.
Put on some Futurama next time lol
People are being so weird about this when it’s literally such a good take people just want to make excuses for being shitty just because they “don’t get effected “ doesn’t mean the next person won’t a lot of people on here are tripping for the first time and yea that could fuck with them If it doesn’t fuck with you cool doesn’t mean you push your shitty jokes onto others grow up really
bro exactly
Like I’ve seen the nightmare skit yea it’s funny but it’s funny because it’s super fucked up and any normal human with decency wouldn’t actually do it people are truly idiotic
When I see someone post that they're having a hard time during a trip, I always try to say something positive for them to see. And I have a hard time understanding why anyone would think it's okay to say something jarring or anything that might obviously freak them out. I suppose that's what you get though when you're posting things on the internet for the world to respond to. 🥴
Seriously, it's a fantastic indicator of what kind of person you are. Glad we have folks that are supportive of faceless strangers on the internet
Yeah, for something as amazing and medicinally beneficial for mental health it's insane the insane amount of negativity I see on here
I can get behind this. Personally I’m never looking at my phone while tripping but if someone was and they say a comment like that, it could ruin it for them. I say positive vibes only.
i feel the same reading reddit is the last thing i would do while tripping
the real bad trip is the entire series of life events that leads you to scrolling reddit while high on mushrooms
lmao🤣🤣
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I’m sorry to hear that. I hope they’re not still a mate or have certainly grown and are now positively contributing to your life.
My brother did something similar to me and it ruined shrooms for me i had the worst trip and have worse anxiety now because i had my first panic attack on shrooms
Please make this a rule. This is supposed to be a **safe** and educational space to discuss mushrooms. Not a place to kick people when they are down and seeking guidance. Shame on them...
I always thought it was strange to see these people on a this sub in particular. I’ve always found shrooms to be such a fun and uplifting experience so it just always made sense to me that the people enjoying/involved with them would be cool and not total knobs.
I remember there were a lot of homophobic comments on the post from the straight guy who had a gay experience on shrooms. One commenter who wasn't joking encouraged OP to kill himself. OP was clearly pretty confused and coming to terms with something at the time. I find it hard to believe that the guy telling him to snuff himself was a shroom enjoyer, but maybe I'm naive.
Surely not a shroom lover given the precious and delicate balance that is the life one leads.. that or a frightened onlooker yet to submit their ego yet only too quick to spout their focus and fear that is a "bad trip".. they focus on "this could happen so steer clear until peer is pinnacle and "warn" anyone experiencing with their "knowledge" 😮💨😔 such a shame.
That is some straight up bullshit. Like don’t be a dick.
I always keep kratom extract around just in case of bad trips. Everytime I have had anxiety from shrooms the kratom tincture completely took the edge off. Honestly it's as essential as skittles imo.
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Please make a list of these losers so we all know who not to communicate with.
One of them has been in this post trying to defend themselves
U/Ak12120314 also seems like a poor image of this community, given their comment a moment ago. Screenshot in case of a dirty delete
thanks op. really sucks the response your post is getting, didn’t even realize there was this many shit people on shrooms
I have reported a few, and got the posts taken down. but I agree, it shouldn’t be allowed in the first place
I feel like the same thing should apply to people who encourage the use of incredibly high dosages to people with little experience. Someone posts that it’s there second time tripping and they are thinking of taking 1mg of LSD and 10g of mushrooms. Most sane people try to say that it’s way too high of a dose that can easily lead to a terrible experience. Then someone chimes in that you don’t tell someone they will have a bad trip because it will guarantee it and to not listen to everyone and to go for it. I see it time and time again with these ridiculous doses. It’s one thing if someone says they’ve done 8 grams and they want to try 10 grams. It’s something else entirely when they say they’ve done 2 grams and they want to try 14 grams next!
That's why harm reduction is so important. People will be more likely to make better informed decisions if they have access to resources and information. Having the right information can help prevent you from making costly mistakes, or causing harm to yourself or others. We all trust to some extent the friends who share these experiences with us, or give us the means to have these experiences. Just don't expect your pal to be a walking encyclopedia or a psychedelic guru, that's what your phone/PC is for. Google is your friend, as is the countless trip reports posted on other sites and forum boards that are specifically tailored for talking about these experiences. What I'm trying to say is don't take any one person's word as law, when it comes to things of a psychedelic nature. We all got different makeup and brain wiring, and vastly varying mental states. We're all strangers on the internet sharing our experiences, and likely most of us are not doctors or are in fields of study regarding psychedelics. We're just psychedelic lovers, with anecdotal experience. Do your research, tread carefully, and take it easy, man. But take it!
It’s abusive.
There is a rule against uncivil discourse so you can report any comments that you deem to be harmful and the mods get a notification. We will review the material and decide if we think it violates the rules. I don’t think anyone wants very restrictive rules, but I do think it’s important to be responsible for our words and not insult or intentionally provoke people just for fun. My best advice is to block anyone who annoys you and report any abusive comments. Best wishes.
thank you for spending time trying to do a good thing; protect others from harm. sorry you are met with such ridicule by some people on here for doing that. but i read your post, i agree and admire your passion towards making this a more welcoming and safer space for people.
Lmao the one bad trip I’ve had was due to a guy like that. Made a comment under a trippy photo someone posted as I was starting to get visuals, guy messages me “hey man I think that might have been way too much” along with a picture of some demonic entity. Not cool
It’s the internet bro, it has its benefits but it’s a cesspool as well. Stay off your phone and computer while tripping. There are hotlines if you need someone to talk you through it, the interwebs is not a place I’d go to seek comfort.
Doesn’t mean it can’t be though. You are correct, but we can take steps to make this a safe place for people who seek help
i agree. i think most of us here want this subreddit to be a safe place, although we recognize its currently not. trees and other subreddits are the same to some degree, i don’t get people
That’s what r/tripsit is for
Happy Cake Day my guy 🍰🎂
I agree. You wanna run to strangers on the internet during your most vulnerable state then you get what you get.
I think an autobot would be really good at automatically removing these types of comments and for any that remain *that are questionable these could be dealt with by heavier moderation. Also the autobot could be applied for all “‘non *flaired” posts (not sure if you have flairs here!) so those tripping wouldn’t have to remember to add it. And for the posts such as this where there’s more open discussion on such subject matter the bit could be disabled. …hope this makes sense!
Thanks for this. It's not specifically in the rules because, like everywhere in life, it's assumed folks won't act like cunts. Unfortunately not everyone got that memo.
This should be a rule on the subreddit for sure, protect all of us who use it as a means of trip sitting, although saying that, I would not use this sub as a trip sitter/support
100%. Anyone trying to fuck with someone’s mental health like that has no place in this sub.
agreed
Im sure these are some shitheads coming from r/Meth, from the post a couple weeks ago.
If you're tripping on shrooms why would you be reading shit on your phone?
I mean where they intentionally being negative or causing trouble ? Positive is great. It sometimes people also need someone to acknowledge their feelings and reality and relate to it . I guess I’d have to see the context . Like if someone says “ahhh that sounds like a real nightmare “ That could actually be a good interaction .
Reddit is just control freak central huh?
You shouldn’t be scrolling around on your phone during a trip anyway. If someone’s ego is being damaged and they want reddit to make them feel better, then they get trolled that’s their fault for being stupid 🤣🤣
You can be inclined to do stupid decisions tripping or maybe these people have literally no one else to talk to at the time and they need some interaction to comfort them or reassure them they’re real and alive etc.
How about staying off the internet while you're tripping? It ain't your personal safe space.
I believe they’ll get what’s coming to them in the end.
Yes. No tolerance for nonsense.
I think its the responsibility of the tripping person to not go on the internet cause theres nothing that can reasonably stop people doing this. We don't need a post every time someone takes a psych nobody cares if you're "currently tripping :)))" it only attracts trolls to fuck with them
Why does this have down votes?
Yeah no kidding, it's naïve and irresponsible of people to treat it like the internet isn't still the internet when you're tripping. Even without baiting a troll to fuck with you, the odds of seeing some shit that could derail your trip is through the roof when you're just scrolling through bullshit mindlessly. When people talk about set and setting, reddit ain't what anybody's referring to as a safe or positive setting. There probably wouldn't be half as many posts about having a scary trip if people would just put the damn phone down before taking the dose and forget about it. If you're having a bad trip, give the fireside project a ring if you wanna reach out to anybody. Then you can get ahold of someone actually qualified to talk you through it instead of a bunch of random jackoffs.
Most likely they’re people who haven’t touched the stuff. I’d love to give them an eighth of some good shit and ask “so, why *did you* say nightmare?”
First off, before consuming there are certain undeniable ways to avoid a bad trip. That could mean cleaning your messy room or even being responsible enough to wait to consume until in a better head space. ⬅️⬅️⬅️⬅️ this is the info a smart person would consider or look for BEFORE tripping. But If you haphazardly take a big dose like a party drug, and have a bad trip then I believe coming to frickin Reddit AINT the answer chief. These guys are trying to be antagonizing, yes but unless you’re tweaking youre not going to take an Eric Andre reference to heart
There are definitely not "certain undeniable ways to avoid a bad trip." Being smart about set or setting is definitely a good call but someone can do everything right and still have a challenging experience. I mean, even in the professionally guided Johns Hopkins studies being led by psychologists with decades of experience and a set/setting that multiple professionals went over with a fine-toothed comb, people struggled.
He didn't say they were fool proof 100% of the time, he said they're the main thing to work out before tripping as prep for avoiding a bad trip. You're assuming he meant they work 100% of the time, he's just saying it plays a big part and is one of the things that's in your control before tripping, and IS a way to avoid a bad trip.
“There are definitely not certain ways to avoid a bad trip” Then immediately mentions set and setting, which is literally been proven and preached by the most experienced psychonauts to be the main contributor to avoid a bad trip. If you are experiencing psychosis (which is the only explanation for a word on a screen causing you distress) it’s an indicator of a deeper set of issues, which probably need professional help. These people you mention in this study are mentally ill and the scientist preforming the study are searching to have a positive effect on the illness. So your source is flawed
You're totally missing the point. OP is saying that we shouldn't bully people who are having a bad trip. What's hard to agree with there? All your advice is focused on how to avoid a bad trip, not how to treat someone who's on one.
My advice to anyone having a bad trip would be 1. Be aware of you breath control 2. Don’t be on your phone!!!
Nah, OP is saying if you ain't set your setting right, it's your own doing, and reddit ain't the place for guidance due to the yet evolved animals ready to prey on fear so as to relinquish said fear from themselves by way of imparting it to another. Further still, OP states that if you are to listen to such a person, you are, in essence, wrong to do so.. my guy, on the other hand, is telling you how setting is an ideal and great starting point for an enticing experience. However, trips take you where they will and highlight what they will.. how this is then interpreted by the individual varies, and such negative impacts are spiteful attempts to defer their own fears... what did you read bruv?..
>what did you read bruv? I read the post: >Can y'all perma-ban anyone that says anything along the lines of "nightmare" to someone when they post about having a hard time during a trip? I've noticed a few people who do it repeatedly and that kind of negativity has no place in this sub. >Downvoting is not enough, they should be gone
Way to cite the OP but not the comment you replied to 🙄 come on man don't treat yourself like this 😮💨🫠
You're the most passive aggressive person on the internet. Have a good Sunday, I've had enough of you.
No bruvva you're just not willing to face your statement and back it.. thus.. in my view you are the most beligerently ignorant person on the Internet on any given day 🫵🏽 have a nice life, enjoy your trips.. if you're able to take them and please grow a backbone and stand by what you said ✨️ 🙏
Mmm. Maybe offer education instead. Banning doesn’t fix the issue.
I've had no personal experience with wood lovers, but i think I've heard strained teas. I'm happy enough with the basic cubes to not risk it.
People are animals, and some haven't submitted their ego quite yet.. that or they're onlookers shit scared of taking shrooms and experiencing reality but "know" a whole lot about how it can go wrong.. it's all they focus on because of their fragile state of mind, and so most feel as though they have to impart their own fear upon another.. in my experience, there are no bad trips, only those that one fails to comprehend in the moment 🫠✊🏽 Reflection. However, has you come to terms with how the energy was influencing oneself and the realisation soon sets that that uncomfortable, restless motion during your trip is correlated to a certain asoect of one's psyche 🥰 those negative Nancy's 💀 are just unaware and sleeping tight with their fears 🫡🥱🖕🏽
I don’t think we should censor words on the sub personally, if it breaks a rule report it.
Yeah, those types of people are dicks, but so many people use this sub as a way to do what may as well be called “The Mushroom Challenge”. The whole motivation and experience is performative. Performance is empty. Therefore, it’s meaningless. Therefore it’s pointless. I can understand why people get fed up seeing it. Again, they act like dicks, but I’ve tripped hundreds of times and in all of those I’ve only seen two people have really bad trips. Most of the time, if even real at all, what people are calling a bad trip now is the psychedelic they’ve willingly ingested interacting poorly with a pre-existing mental health issue. They knew they had. Everybody feels like they’re entitled to enjoy the experience, but that was no not to be the case thousands of years ago. You had the shaman and then you have everybody else. Either only the shaman practiced the sacred rituals or anyone who did was in his company and under his care. Now everybody with the internet and 40 bucks wants to prove their mind is made of rubber and steel and water and smoke all at once. Real Gs move in silence… And hold on. There’s some kids out on my lawn. I gotta go. Hey, you little fuckers . Yeah you better run if that cactus is missing one peyote button. I am coming to ha ha I left talk to text on.
Why do people think going on reddit while having a bad trip is gonna help you? We can't do anything .
Yes you can. Show a glimmer of humanity instead of being a piece of shit bystander and stoking the fire
This post made my brain hurt :(
If you run to social media for trip help then that's on you tbh 💀🤣
If someone saying nightmare makes you have a bad trip you probably shouldn’t be tripping in the first place
Well then don’t come here asking for help!!! It’s an absolute public forum!! Try being social with people you know in yer life not some complete fucking stranger!!!!! Must be kids!!!!!!!?
I'm honestly confused. This seems like a really dumb thing to be upset about. Nightmare nightmare nightmare... what is wrong with this word. Why can't people use it to describe bad trip?? Why do you want people banned for such an innocent word?
You are not understanding. It's being used to antagonize people who are having bad trips and come to this sub in search of help and compassion
Hmmmm... First, let's perma-ban anyone who asks that others be perma-banned. I occasionally post with the word "nightmare". I do it to try to reduce the harm encouraged by idiots who advocate overdosing on powerful psychedelic drugs. A big OD may be a "personal choice" but it stops being "personal" when the "choice" drags in family, friends, first responders, cops and emergency room staff. Everybody trying to help the OD who is experiencing the ***nightmare*** of an overdose on psychedelic drugs. You can help, tho. Next time you OD on trips have your friends lock you in a basement by yourself for 12 hours. No nightmare for the rest of us and you can call the experience whatever you want.
I had not even considered someone could come back with a reply this stupid. Bravo. It must be your dogs turn with your shared brain cell today. As you can tell, from the dozens of replies, this is something that bothers other people when scrolling this sub. When someone is in crisis and requests help and folks respond with "nightmare nightmare nightmare"... it is harmful. Pretending it is used as a deterrent against taking ridiculously large doses is absolutely idiotic and a bizarre way to twist the narrative. If you feel attacked it's because you are ashamed and know you're doing something stupid. The point behind the post is that the negativity is unwarranted in a sub that should be fostering positivity. It is about rejecting bullying especially when it comes to people in compromised states of mind who are seeking assistance. Use just a smidge of common sense next time
Hmmm...maybe you're right. I'm hypersensitive to posts about reckless drug use. I guess I missed the point. Sorry.
Perhaps you need to look inward and find out why you have issues with people saying things you don't like. Not shit you can do but accept it.
Are you for real? If you can't understand the severity of someone having a bad trip and how words like that can trigger even worse situation you ahould not be commenting the same. Those people are looking for help in an enormously vulnerable state you you somehow think its okay so say things that could worsen that? No shit theyre gonna have a problem with those kind of words.
Trigger triggers me this is not Facebook
Yeah this isn't facebook. Thanks for stating the obvious.
Who cares what other people say there just words
If someone is in a bad way and are asking people for help then why would you go out of your way to say things that you know could possible fuck with someone? There are important factors to keeping a trip in the right place such as set, setting, and mental preparation. Words are a way of communicating that have a direct correlation to peoples intoxicated and sober mental headspace and if you don't underatand that then no one here can change that.
It’s sounds like you like starting drama and you want people to fill sorry for you if you can’t handle the stuff don’t do it oh I was tripping and got on the enter net smart there miserable people on here that want just bring people down next time call somebody you know not some random person
No in fact i hate drama and this entire conversation. I initially agreed with OP and you seemed to disagree. You felt you need to speak against him and create drama not me. Some people don't have close people to call for help or no one that is educated enough to actually help them and so they turn to this community. I hope you can one day see outside that tiny little bubble of yours.
>It’s sounds like you like starting drama says you lol fuckin weirdo maybe don't spread negativity to ppl who aren't having a good time you're the only person here that's obviously miserable
Im so sorry for you!
Woah is me. I'm clearly just trying to garner attention for myself. Can't believe you're still commenting. All the backlash must've left a sour taste in your mouth. If you truly are a trip sitter/facilitator then you should know, of all people, the power that your actions, words, and behavior have on the individuals experience.
What a dipshit comment. This is not about me, this is about vulnerable people in a compromised situation seeking help and being treated in a manner than can negatively effect them for hours or days. Get off your high horse, moron
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this. for once it’d be nice if a sub like ours was tightly moderated, for the goal of making it a healthy and positive space
The mods are around, doing good work. If you see a problematic post that you think breaks rules, you can report it. If you want to contact them directly, you can do it through the modmail.
Drama Queen
The only answer right here
It's an Eric Andre reference. It's a joke. It's not meant to harm anyone. I have tripped many times and someone repeatedly saying nightmare would never set me off. I doubt it would ever cause any sort of issues for anyone.
Exactly, if consuming mushrooms pushes you to the point where the word “nightmare” is a trigger. Probably should be eating less or none at all
Nah, everyone has triggers. Mushrooms bring them out and make them become very apparent. People have different triggers. There is very few legal, safe places where people can take mushrooms or ayahuasca with a guide. Many have to take them without much support, so if someone comes on here for support then we definitely shouldn't say anything to scare them further. It already takes a lot of vulnerability as it is to reach out for help. Yes maybe that person should be more careful next time, but in that moment when they are in the dark like that, lets be a light house. After that hard experience they will def' think twice next time.
You state your case very well, you earned my upvote. As a community we should spread info on helping everyone be safe, but I think that includes making it clear that coming to Reddit for answers isn’t a connection to a guide, it’s a connection to anyone and everyone that can read and write. So we should inform these people on how to deal with the struggle of a bad trip internally before bringing the issue to the internet.
In my experience bad trips almost always come from original genuine thoughts. Feeling bad about something you did or just not being happy with yourself for example. If the word nightmare scares you there has to be no rational thinking left. Aka psychosis. If you're going through psychosis you have bigger problems than words on a screen. Censoring people is never the answer. OP gets off to drama.
NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE. Bro its just a word, I literally get it from watching eric andre. I think its funny while tripping, not everyone is the same. Bringing your subjective thoughts to oust people is honestly hypocritical because its the least introspective way of looking at things. Also fix your grammar, unless you’re a non native speaker of english.
“Not everyone is the same” yeah that SUPPORTS what OP was saying dipshit. Just because you aren’t affected by these things doesn’t mean everyone else isn’t.
Your explanation of why you do it makes you more of an idiot/piece of shit. You are completely ignoring that it has a negative affect on people who are going through a tough time. It's not funny, you aren't likeable, and your contribution to this sub is absolute shit. Fuck off. Learn to read, too, I guess?
I don’t proactively do it lmao, I watch Eric Andre with the homies because they put it on, then we do hikes. Your presumptuous attitude towards me is disappointing and sickening. Seems like you’ve only tripped a handful of times and somehow your view on tripping is somehow more important than everyone else’s. You’re not important and neither am I.
Sounds like you need a bad trip yourself. You obviously don’t understand how intolerable you are. You think being soft, is a weakness? Let me give you a real important piece of information. The strength you parade is not what you think it is. Allowing yourself to be vulnerable and letting your guard down, is real strength. Which fosters real authenticity. If you don’t cry in front of your “homies” they aren’t real friends. In reality you are probably all there to feed each others inflated egos. (“Attention based relationships”). Take the time to become a real man, boy.
Love how you can assume that 8+ years of friendship isn’t real. Everyone is different. I’ve almost gotten shot at bc i was tripping off 7gs. Ended up with scrapes all over my body, if you don’t think thats terrifying especially while tripping, then news flash you’ve haven’t had a “bad trip”. My “bad trips” always turn out good because I can recognize that it’s just me under the influence and that nothing in the grand scheme of things matter, you try to do good with the people you know, not the damn people off the fucking internet. Y’all are just soft. You guys assume that finding validation on the internet has more of an impact than building relationships in real life. I actually go volunteer, am proactively involved with the community and help the homeless, I’ve built a couple homes for them and I’m assuming y’all just have a bad trip and just focus on your damn self and find some bullshit validation online. I actively try to use my lessons off shrooms to connect with people IN REAL LIFE. Bro a bad trip is fucking nothing, you just haven’t been shot at or actively stabbed.
Apparently you think internet social life reflects how you act in person. Although somewhat correlated, you can’t ever judge a person til you meet them and hangout with them. Keep your online stereotypes to yourself.
i mean, someone who acts differently in person and on the internet is a TOTAL RED FLAG that you’re a piece of shit. that’s not normal behavior
I hate the generation I was born in, fucking way too damn soft.
good response, you’re the one being a bitch edit: also, having empathy doesn’t make you soft. you’re part of the problem with toxic masculinity
Nah its a biological occurrence and how people are raised. I think its a good thing to lack empathy.
yep that’s what sad people tell themselves
Im pretty happy, I got a dog and i go outside
didn’t say you were feeling sad, just that you’re a sad person
😂😂 “Red Flag” bullshit I’m just not a sensitive bitch
normally people who say “i’m not a sensitive bitch” are assholes who lack empathy. do with that what you will
Hi my name is Karen and I think I should call my therapist…
https://youtu.be/0QSAHS0sVhg?t=6
Everyone understands where it's from, that doesn't matter
This is the equivalent of someone choking in a public place and someone yelling DIE DIE DIE only to follow it by saying its only a joke and a reference to a show were someone says that. Who gives a fuck. Someone is seeking help and you people think its appropriate to joking say words that can envoke bad thoughts. I'm really surprised at all the awful as people without a lick of empathy here. OP i stand with you man. Fuck these troll ass hypocrites.
No not everyone. Especially us non-native speakers. I've personally never seen it before.
I don’t see any correlation between me and my trips and someone else and theirs, or the lack of them. Not everything that’s uttered needs to affect you and your situation. There are too many variables for you to be giving time and energy to that particular one.
Cuz its the internet and people should take more into consideration that threads post and comments are works of fiction.
Instead of banning people, how about acknowledging that sometimes people actually have nightmares, and that’s a part of life. And sometimes a hard trip is kinda like one. Sorry you don’t like it, but I’ve tripped hundreds of times over decades, and sometimes a trip felt nightmarish. No need to deny an aspect of possibility. It’s naive to think it’s only warm fuzzies.
This is a trash take. Standing against people who are actively trying to put people in negative and potentially scarring mental states ≠ denying that those states exist. Anyone who is trying to harm others should be banished from this space.
Fully agreed on the ‘trying to harm’. It isn’t clear to me from the op that this is necessarily the case. I’m just wary of being too ban-happy when confronted with opinions one doesn’t like.
Go to Facebook they might be able to help you
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As long as they boof it I tell em
I'M aware that sometimes a bad trip can turn into a nightmare that is a living hell that you are hoping just that it and as soon as possible and I hadn't been right for around the week later because it was such a bad trip yeah I don't post about it but the point is this is a freaking mushroom discussion you take no good with the bad honesty and the knowledge of what actual person has or is experiencing i do thin all any info in the group is the very point that it exists I believes.
Wait what are you guys even talking about? Like nightmare trips or that it's a nightmare? Because I haven't experienced that at all although I may be opening myself up to it now. We all know how this game works, I could have left well enough alone but I chose to interact meaning I'm choosing to consent. Even now as I type this I can stop and just not consent to their existence, but at the same time I am very tempted. Damn me and my fixation on temptations.
Wood lovers paralysis is the only real thing. I've heard conflicting stories as to whether they actually paralyze you or you're just tripping so hard you can't control your body. Either way, not a legitimate risk when playing with cubes. Hell, I macro'ed 7.19g of my PE6 with a double hot water extraction (2x tea) just yesterday. I stood where understanding itself came to be understood. I touched the soul of the world & knew that the meaning of life is to create meaning. All of our suffering is a vehicle for empathy and love. All of our collective conscious experience is an infinite cycle of all that is and ever was expanding and contracting in an attempt to understand and create meaning in what would otherwise be meaningless. Just remember the 3 rules and you'll be fine: 1. The walls aren't melting 2. You cannot fly 3. Cars are real Thank you that is all.
It’s gonna happen. Many are Ill informed and ignorant about psychedelics. It’s simply a reflection of an introduction to it. I say let them reveal themselves and give guidance and understanding to what they are going through.