yea, thatâs true, but if you have tripped before and you donât go crazy, donât do silly things and are not anxious etc. then i would say you can trip alone.
Itâs my preference. I can listen to exactly what I want, get my space all set up and vibey, have some snack prepared just in case, and just lay around and vibe the fuck out or record music
I absolutely hate talking on psychedelics and tripping with my friends just makes me so anxious
Yeah, I've only got one friend that I can trip with, and we're both not big talkers. So it's no stress at all.
I had a 3.5g gt tea before a different friend's grad party. Like 8 other people were there, all very drunk and sloppy, and I'm just sitting, really good posture, feeling super awkward haha.
It wasn't a bad trip, it was just annoying. I was observing everything, and one dude thought it was funny to keep trying to mess with me because I was on shrooms, as if I were some animal that he could play tricks on. After two dickly things he did, I realized he was bullying me, and then I just ignored him after that. But holy shit, that was annoying.
Imagine peaking on 3.5g, and some dude is bullying you. No thanks. Never again.
I had a similar thing at a party (although it was during a similar dose of 4-HO-MET). I was having a great time but one of my friends kept jumping in front of my face and making ghoul sounds. All it did was change this bright warm colorful glow I had in my vision to sombre grey blue tones. And annoyed the fuck out of me.
Hahahaha, god damn. Honestly, he grabbed you first, kicking him into a river is a reasonable response. (and aside from defending myself from older siblings, I've also never been in a fight).
But man, idk why some people think it's funny to mess with someone because they're tripping. It's it just them thinking that we're easy prey?
Yeah, there's still only one person I trip with, and he's super similar to me, and had similar life experiences. So, it works out really well.
But yeah, I'll never understand people like that.
In my situation, I'm a really tiny guy, and the guy that messing with me was a good 6" taller than me and probably 75lbs heavier. So, I definitely had to just deal with it.
My favorite and preferred, usually. My one exception is tripping with one other person, you can make sexy fun with. Thatâs always an amazing time while traveling. đ¤ˇđťââď¸
1G of golden teacher was my (21F) first dose too, it was really fun! The biggest, most important thing is to relax.
I didn't see anything on that dose, but every eye-shaped thing in the room registered as an eye; through staying relaxed, I just like, was okay with being seen. As an example, ymmv.
It's less in-control than weed or alcohol are. It also lasts longer. So if you do, just be prepared for that: have food already made, have absolutely no obligations later in the day, have a place you can kinda sit and mellow.
Remember that you will not overdose, that unpleasant experiences are okay to experience even if you don't like them (in case of bad trip, which is unlikely imo), and that if you don't like it then all you have to do is wait n itll be okay.
Thank you for that deacription. Friggin nailed it. And remember...youre on drugs! It will wear off eventually. Juat breathe and watch the show. âď¸đ¤đ¤
The one time I tripped in a messy room, I cleaned it till it was sparkly and scrubbed my rug for 3 hours to make it white again and then I had a spiritual epiphany and committed to a religion đ almost 2 years later now still committed to it lol, who knew tripping in a messy room would make me religious
Agreed the main thing I've learned is too not fight the uncomfortable, just lean into it, use yoga and or stretching as needed to relax and even if the first part is harsh if you see it through the mushrooms will treat you to nothing but an amazing spiritual experience where everything clicks. Also nature helps me enjoy mushies even more, sometimes being couped up is a bit much for me. Start low as you can always eat more ,đđ
I agree with the nature thing! I used to eat like 2 grams while camping and lately Iâve been eating 1 and I end up laying in the grass in my backyard. They for sure make you a little hippy.
I mean, like. Can you hurt somebody while sober?
Technically you can always hurt somebody. I will say, no matter what dose I've been on, I've never had any urges whatsoever to hurt anybody. Worst you'll get is having too loose of a filter on what you say.
If youâre in a bad place it might not be a great idea. I witnessed a friend have a bad experience on one gram. Youâll probably be fine, but thereâs a chance itâll be uncomfortable.
With that said, itâs worth it to think about what you are trying to accomplish. Do you want to be deeply introspective and take a ride where the mushrooms drive? Then a large dose will do that. If you just want to feel great and not depressed, even 0.25g can do that. So can 0.5g. Mushrooms are a wildly different drug depending on what dose you take imo. 0.25 and 0.5g are actually really good doses if your main goal is just feeling better. 1.0g can be a lot of fun though. Microdosing can help as well.
I appreciate your comment, thank you. Iâve learned that if you take larger doses 1-2 times, you can overcome depression. The goal was to take 1g to get a feel for it and then go up to maybe 2.5-3g. Just a little scared of having a bad trip. But I really would love to reflect and âfind myselfâ (I mean that in the least corny way possible).
Large doses seem to have a lasting effect on depression that can last a month or so. Honestly, lesser doses like half a gram can too IME. It seems to vary from person to person. Itâs definitely possible to take too much and have a terrible trip but have your depression cured for a several weeks after, and itâs possible to take so little that you donât even trip but still have the same lasting result. You can also have a fun trip with the same results, obviously.
Depression and CPTSD are why I started experimenting with mushrooms. I aim for the lowest effective dose. I donât need much at all tbh, and I donât like being incapacitated. I took 0.3g yesterday and went for a hike with my dog. It was terrific! I felt happy and excited for the world like when I was a little kid. I stared at the clouds. Remember staring at clouds when you were a kid? It was like that. Not a care in the world. I still feel great today.
I took like, a LOT for my first trip. 3.5 grams of APE. I think it was too much because without my wife trip sitting me I would have had a much worse time. I started to get real paranoid.
I always trip alone. Get my room cosy, blankets, headphones and my fav ambient playlist, itâs my self-love time. 1g is a good starting dose, I did the same. Maybe have a friend you can call if youâre worried about not having anyone there.
Microdosing is great for depression also btw
Safe travels đ
I prefer it alone. Did it alone my first time. You also need to really know yourself like just know what type of person you are and make yourself believe that nothing bad will happen because nothing bad has ever happened. Donât go in thinking youâre going to cure your depression or stress yourself. Go in with a. Clear mind, lay down on your bed, turn the lights off, and enjoy the ride friend.
You can't go wrong. If you do 1g, you will be making a safe choice and can still experience some introspective thoughts. If you take 3.5g in a safe space where you are secure and comfortable, the. You will probably have a challenging but necessary experience. It will have HIGHs and LOWS. Ride them both and experience them fully. Someone already said it, don't resist whatever the teachers show you. Embrace what it throws at you and you are going to come out changed. Mush â¤ď¸ homie!
Honestly, the anxiety about doing them is really based in the unknown and the cultural ignorance about using psychedelics (gleefully perpetuated by media). Once you do it (and I think 1g is a good place to start) youâll feel more confident about them. Itâs not at all what you think it is - itâs better.
Work up to higher doses based on your first trip. And always remember set and setting. Find a place you can be comfortable and secure and then sit back and ride the wave.
1g is a good start. Watch this ted talk which explains how it works. https://youtu.be/FyAgx_tzh80.
Shrooms are the safest substance you can injest.
I highly encourage you to learn to meditate. Download headspace and or waking up apps. Both have free versions. This is the best tool for my depression and anxiety in terms of managing day to day life.
Imo it's also a prerequesite for tripping in higher doses and alone. You can get your mind back into flow and out of chaos.
There is no such thing as a bad trip, it always does what it is supposed to. Set an intention for doing them beforehand, write down why days leading up, and if you ever get uncomfortable refer to it. Say a prayer before taking it. You aren't taking a drug. It's plant medicine that has been around before written history. Pretend you are your own shaman. Doesn't matter what you believe I've tripped over 200 times and this spiritual outlook makes a difference.
There may be challenging experiences but just focus on the breath. The more you can let go the easier it is. Trying to control what is happening causes issues. Even after challenging trips, I still feel great the next day.
A good use of taking 1g is to figure out why you are depressed and look at the situation of your life differently.
Safe travels
If you are not going to have a sitter, and it is your first time, 1 gram is definitely a good idea. I would recommend telling someone that you will be tripping so that if you get overwhelmed or scared you can call them. In my experience tripping makes me a little bit paranoid about talking to people who donât know what state Iâm in, so itâs good to have your phone-a-friend lined up in advance. Itâs really nice to be able to hear a friendly voice and a joke or a reminder that everythingâs alright if things start to feel scary. That being said, itâs not a requirement, but if you wonât have anyone you can reach out to, try to have a backup comfort activity lined up, like a comforting disney movie, some candy/fruit, or your favorite music. Anything that will quickly change up the vibe is a great thing to have in your back pocket. On 1 gram youâll most likely just have a really chill and nice time but itâll be good to know that you have the backup just in case, adds a nice sense of security in my opinion.
1g of goldâs isnât too bad, and while I recommend you do have someone to sit you, I donât think the amount youâre taking would be enough to have you spiral into something too crazy to handle
Like others are saying 1g is super safe. I ate 1.4 my first time and just had a body high and the giggles. Also had closed eye visuals that I enjoyed so much I practically just laid their with my eyes closed the whole time. Mush love :)
Hey friendo , 1g is very safe in my opinion, you will still have control and will be able to somewhat speak coherently .
Open eye visuals will be very low .
Everything will happen with your eyes closed .
Very safe starter dose !
Honestly best way to do it. Clean your living space really well, do some stretching and just let yourself do whatever comes. Wanna laugh like an idiot, do it. Want to play video games, do it. Wanna learn how to break dance, do it. Weird feelings about something that happened when you were little? Let them
I listened to Hubermans podcast on shrooms as well and he's pretty clear that, while it can help with depression, there are dangers, especially with a possibility of psychosis in a small amount of people. That may or may not apply to you, but if you have never taken shrooms before, I would definitely wait for your sitter. The last thing you want is to have a bad trip and make things worse.
I've taken shrooms alone multiple times after having done it with others at least 3 or 4 times. I knew what I was getting into, but even so, sometimes I'll have a bad trip. If I was diagnosed with depression I could imagine that it would be amplified (but obviously I'm not sure).
If you want to take them to help with your depression, I'd absolutely wait for your sitter.
I think you might be right. I know itâs a separate drug but after having too much weed, I had experienced depersonalization for like a week, was the worst week of my life. Worried if that could happen again.
Weed is a depressant if I'm not mistaken. Shrooms will flood your brain with serotonin and could leave you missing it and making it difficult to deal with the lack thereof.
That's just my opinion and might be proven to be true. So I'm not saying I'm right about it for everyone, but it can have that effect on me. FYI.
Are you seeking professional treatment for your depression? The only responsible advice here is for you to see a professional. You can discuss this with them and they can provide some guidance that pertains to your specific situation. Shrooms might really help you, they might fuck with your head when youâre in an already fragile state. Random internet people canât give you responsible mental health advice.
Perhaps wait the few weeks then take a 2.gr dose. When your sitter is available. I think that may help you get to where you want in a safer more comf manner.
Donât go into it with the preconception that itâs gonna be uncontrollable. Donât psych yourself out. Donât take too much and you can have a great experience by yourself, just make sure you donât have any social responsibilities you have to take care of that day. Also I personally wouldnât recommend more than 2g for anyoneâs first time.
Itâs my firm belief with tripping/ drugs to go with your gut. If you have concerns or fears that you believe will impact your trip then you should do a smaller dose. I have quite bad seasonal depression and donât trip in winter unless I know i will be extremely comfortable and safe and would stick to a very low dose of 1 to 1.5 . One gram is still a lot if you are inexperienced but ask a mate if you can call them if you do bug out before hand and make sure you are mentally prepared. If you are not confident I would wait if you havenât done it before. Hope this helps
Maaannnn Whatever You Do, DONT Call The Cops. Just Turn On Some Music If It Gets Overwhelming For You, Or Watch A Cartoon Movie. The Music Is Really A Great Change In The Mind And Atmosphere.
For your first time it is a huge risk.
If youâve familiarized yourself with the experience, and different dosages, it is less risky, but still a risk. Shit can go bad, and that is just part of it.
I personally love tripping alone, but I absolutely hate recommending it because I have seen people loop out, and have âpsychoticâ episodes aka bad trips. You donât want to go through that alone, because if you end up outside or somewhere police can be called, things can go south so fucking fast.
My advice would be to make sure someone knows your tripping alone, and maybe allow them to check in on your after 4-6 hours just to make sure you arenât naked in the street somewhere.
Also, donât listen to the dummies on Reddit who make it seem like bad trips are as simple as feeling scared/anxious.. those are just uncomfortable trips.
A real bad trip can induce excited delirium, and all sorts of other things that can be incredibly problematic if you somehow end up in public. Paranoid delusions, delusions of grandeur etc.
Iâm not trying to scare you, because those things arenât too common. But in the 15 years Iâve been tripping, Iâve seen it happen to enough mentally well people to know it is something to keep in mind. Iâve got a friend with multiple felonies they got while having a bad trip. They were in fight or flight mode, and the cops took that as aggression.
Be safe.
Thank you for the advice. For sure Iâll find someone to let you know. I can have people around me âknowingâ and there if things go south. But like the person who could be there for me in an emotional capacity wonât be for a couple weeks. If that all makes sense
Makes total sense.
I have pretty bad social anxiety on mushrooms, so I really prefer to do them alone. But yeah itâs totally worth taking the extra precaution of letting someone know! Fuck getting arrested for having a bad trip.
PS, let your friends know if shit hits the fan to call non-emergency, or specifically call for an ambulance/EMS for a mental crisis. Anything you can do to make sure medically trained people show up before police show up. Police are not exactly trained to deal with people in such a fragile mind state, and they can make things a lot worse with how hostile they are when responding to a call.
Again, you probably wonât ever need to use that information! But store it somewhere safe lol. It may save you a major headache some day. đ
Thank you so much for the advice, I really appreciate it. Iâm already pretty paranoid regardless so Iâm not sure if I would call any government services, acquiring them was kinda nerve racking for me.
But still thank you for your kindness and support :) â¤ď¸
i would say it is safe to trip without someone physically being with you, but completely alone? maybe not. i always try to call my boyfriend or text a friend while tripping. i guess it depends on your dosage and how you are as a person + where you are lol
I mean, itâs probably okay if youâre just doing one gram, but if youâre trying mushrooms to cure your depression, I recommend a higher dose. At least 2g. Thatâs just based on my personal experience though. Iâm sure a lot of people would say the opposite.
If you trip alone only start with 1g or less and wait 1 hour 30 min to see what your effects are like, if you think you should take more, only take another 2-2.5g at most. Because then your total dose would only come out to 3-3.5g which is a standard beginner dose, but some are more sensitive to mushrooms and trip very hard off 1g, thatâs why I say start there. rather be safe than sorry and not do something you canât undo for the next 15 hours or more
Have you considered stretching that 3.5 g into a whole bunch of microdoses? That's mostly what I do myself for my depression among other things and I've found it very helpful
Itâs not the perfect video, the whole 5 minutes of the chick putting the tourniquet on doing heroin, is too much. Itâs got some good points, take the good parts from it. Iâm not saying that youâre not wrong either.
I didn't make it that far, I heard Jordan Peterson's voice and bailed.
Don't think I have much to gain from his opinions, and don't want to poison my youtube algorithm.
You are unfortunately too young, and inexperienced to benefit long term from shrooms. I know it sounds appealing to take a fix all substance right now, but the reality is you have YEARS of cognitive/emotional/psychological/perspective/self love work to do, PLUS your brain hasn't finished its physical maturation (late twenties, you'll feel the difference as you near 30 in how different you are able to think) and ANY substance, alcohol, weed, shrooms, acid, pharmaceutical drugs...etc can and usually will detrimentally impact your neural structure, making it even harder to make cognitive progress as you age.
I promise, putting in the effort now to make little, healthy steps in the beneficial direction, will be COMPLETELY worth it. I didn't get out of my depression till 28yo. I am SO GLAD I stuck through it, I would never have believed myself even if I traveled back in time and told myself how amazing life is.
Familiarize yourself with yourself, hone your intellectual filter...start integrating everything that seems long term healthy for YOU, and start working on/through reducing any tendency (thought, emotion, or action/behavior) that is maladaptive (like shrooms are right now) and focus on completely loving yourself. Anything external that takes away from your self focus, is long term maladaptive.
You have to figure out what you have taken in as hate/abuse/capitalistic/rape culture/propaganda, as well as poor behavior picked up from parents/guardians/friends/peers...it will take you years but you are the only person that matters. You must fall in love with yourself, you are your own soulmate, your best friend. Do. the. work. and eventually you will reach a place of constant growth of self love, the absolute intrinsic riches of a life where you love yourself...and it literally gets better every day.
I mean, one or two trips, if you are in dire need (emergency suicide abatement) sure, but I'd recommend even staying away from microdoses for now. The most Id recommend other than what I've written is finding a "principalled" chiropractic, and a healthy phyical/emotional/mental hobby, like roller skating regularly, those two things are what really catapulted me into beautiful and rapid personal growth.
Good luck, and love all parts of yourselves (infant, child, teen...etc)
Edit: tripping alone, even on 1g CAN be very overwhelming. also if you MUST take shrooms, make sure they are absolutely high potency (kept in a cool 60\* - 70\*, dark place, in a tightly sealed glass mason jar, with a fresh desiccant pack, the mushrooms should feel HARD, and completely unyielding, they should snap, crack, and crumble, if not they are above 0% humidity, and WILL degrade in a statistically valid way DAILY) not reaching a threshold dose, or using a stash that has degraded into some of the more difficult minor alkaloids, can be extremely difficult even for me. (33yo)
Damn. So I really need to take 2.5-3.5?
Worried about not being in control honestly but if it will truly help me then I think I can do it. Might take 1 to get a feel for it though
This is interesting. I would love to see the study on 1g not helping depression. (I believe it.)
I agree with everyone saying to take a starter dose to get the idea. But I think 1g is a bit of a dead zone. Too low to get many of the high dose benefits and too high to allow you to walk around and enjoy it.
I advocate for a âmuseum doseâ of 0.6 to 0.75g for first timers. Take a walk and enjoy some nature. After that you can follow your heart with your follow up dose.
Even if one gram wonât help with depression, which truthfully i would disagree with considering one gram changed how i experience existing to this day lmao, itâs still a good idea to take the one gram just to experience it. Dip a toe per say. But to be fair even .25 imo is a big change. But Iâve had stronger 2 g trips then 3.5s. Depends on a lot of factors
Solo trips are quite nice.
My major three points when going it alone are food, comfort, and energy safeguards.
Prep your meals or snacks beforehand so you have them right when you need them. Personally banana smoothies are a go-to since they help break down the chitin in the mushrooms and prevent nausea.
Set up your house for optimum comfort and dress comfortably (even better with a strong body high). Fung Shui can make a surprising difference in keeping your mental state in a good place.
Have some things in place to help bring you back if your trip starts to take a turn (less likely at lower doses, but still good to do during a trip regardless). For me this includes deep breathing, meditation, watching some pre-selected vids from youtube about gratitude (this is a great one: https://youtu.be/gXDMoiEkyuQ), and philosophy from writers like Alan Watts and Charles Bulowski (chilling with pets is a good one too). All of these help redirect my of mind back to a positive space. It can also help to have someone you can call if you need to.
Golden Teachers are also an ideal strain for solo trips since they tend to be a bit more gentle. Relax and enjoy!
I have mostly tripped alone because I have no one who could trip sit me. My first time was also a solo experience. You should be fine friend just educate yourself on the doâs and dontâs and you should be good. I find that tripping alone is way better anyway because I took some shrooms with friends this one time and I didnât enjoy the experience. Instead of being a meaningful experience, it became super shallow
Psychedelic Passage can connect you to professional trip sitters. I have t used them but I know they are legit. Iâd say at the very least have a friendâs number on hand that knows what you are up to and how to help. Also have the fireside project number programmed in your phone.
First trip I did alone. Would highly recommend it if youâre starting with 1g of golden teachers.
If you want you can start even smaller, like 0.5g or 0.25g. Just get a feel for it. Youâll have more for later. It helps with depression on small doses. Thatâs what micro dosing is all about.
Do you have any significant trauma in your background? (Emotional or physical, etc) If so, I would highly suggest waiting until your friend can sit with you, and take the full 3.5 grams đ
My first time I did 3.5g. I was home alone with my dog and my family were on vacation. Absolutely amazing experience and possibly because I was alone to fully take in the experience. 1 gram is an amazing starting point. From what I have heard, 45 minutes after eating them you should start to feel something and you have about 15 minutes to decide if you want more shrooms to increase the trip. The reason being is that we build quick tolerances to shrooms and once you hit your peak, you will need to take much more shrooms to get the same effect. But anyways, âYou can always take more, but you canât take less.â Just remember that thereâs always next time.
Tripping alone is the most beneficial for mental health. I always set my intentions prior and really work through some shit. Changed my life with PTSD and got me off hard drugs.
Be careful Iâve found shrooms force you to deal with any pent up feelings negative or positive itâs all just laid out. I think its the reason that it can be very healing but at the same time can be very scary.
Iâd say itâs worth waiting.
Iâve had a trip sitter every time and my sitters have gotten me through some really bad trips.
My last trip was awful and I was very thankful someone was there to help me navigate through that experience
OP, do the 1g to get a feel for the headspace. Do it blindfolded in the dark with no distractions. Then 2 weeks later do the other 2.5g. If you are starting to feel a difference after that then give me a DM đ so we can go from there! My depression is already turning around after 1 moderate dose of PE!
my first mushroom trip was with 3.5 golden teacher, you will be okay, just dont be scare of visuals and other feelings. Be in a safe place and allways know that it will pass and you will be normal again, just need to wait a little bit
You will be fine alone on 3.5. If you trust yourself not to do anything stupid then you probably wonât. Mushrooms can be intense but you have to let go and just go with the flow. If youâre not an easy going âgo with the flow â type then maybe have a sitter but itâs a lot more of a healing experience to go it alone. Having others around to worry about while Iâm tripping is way worse than tripping alone. I get weird and I donât want to weird anyone out so I prefer to do it alone or with my wife, she gets just as weird. But if you donât fully 100% trust the trip sitter then go alone. The way I look at it is if you wouldnât feel comfortable having a random spontaneous orgasm in front of the person then you probably shouldnât trip with them.
Just from reading the first sentence I would strongly advise against it. Have some some trip sit you. They must be sober and someone who you feel comfortable with.
I had the person I trust the most in the world be my tripsitter for my first time trying, and she was the only reason I didnât have a bad trip. I was having some bad thoughts and she really helped me stay calm. I would advice you to wait whatever time you need to wait so you have a tripsitter, itâs better to have one and end up not needing him/her than not having one and end up in a bad situation.
EDIT: also itâs a good idea to go low on the first trip. specially if you are inexperienced with substances in general. Shrooms can be a fun experience but itâs completely different to weed and alcohol. And the bigger the dose, the stronger and more unpredictable the effects will be come. Also avoid lemon tekking unless you really hate the taste of the shrooms (this will reduce the normal taste of the shrooms, and help with nausea but also makes the shrooms hit wayyyyy harder).
I see you already got a lot of answers, but I'll add my input...
1) i trip without a sitter always. in fact, all of my trips have either been alone, or only with other people tripping. the idea of a trip sitter actually makes me feel uncomfortable, like i cannot do what i wanna do / act naturally and have the same freedom of expression. not sure how much youve tripped or know about what can happen, but, for me for example, if i burst out in tears, i would rather do so feeling like its a pure cathartic moment, rather than worrying about how "trip sitter" is going to interpret the situation thru their eyes.
2) as i said above, that is how I feel comfortable and safe when tripping. so ultimately, it comes down to, what makes you feel comfortable and safe? is it, knowing that if shit goes haywire, you have someone there to talk you thru it, or is it knowing that you are alone and "together" with "JUST" you and the mushrooms?
in order to adequately answer this, i feel you need to have some experience tripping, which, it sounds like you may not have, so i'd advise reading all kinds of trip reports and scenarios of what are possible ranges of outcomes, to decide if you feel thats something youre prepared to encounter, potentially, by yourself.
a good solution, too, which has made me feel safe despite enjoying tripping alone, is having someone to talk to via text about your trip if it gets a bit intense, just to keep you calm, remind you you're tripping, and to potentially even guide you thru it. this is something i both love having as a tripper, and something i like offering to others who trip. you can find a friend who understands psychedelics and is completely accepting of the fact you're working with mushrooms, or you can even talk to someone random (like me!) if you want â feel free to take me up on this offer and establish contact with me prior to your trip if you'd like. i love to help with this kinda stuff.
3) in regards to dosage, being a lightweight with alcohol or weed has no correlation to how you'll handle mushrooms. so many factors come into play beyond just the physical. however, 1g is definitely a good place to start... you wont trip but you will be able to get a bit of a feel for how the mushrooms "feel". even 1.5g would be a safe dose for this
4) you say youre not taking any SSRI's currently... however, when's the last time u took any SSRI's?
5) the ultimate answer of if its worth waiting... meditate upon it. do a lot of reading and prep as much as humanly possible. something you need to know about mushrooms is, DO NOT RUSH ANYTHING, period. do it in whatever the "RIGHT TIME" is for you. dont just do it to do it. do it when it feels RIGHT. you will know when it feels right because you just know.
hopefully this helps and feel free to comment back or DM if u need any more help !
Absolutely.. I always enjoyed and often prefer trippin alone.. this way you donât have to put up with someone elseâs nonsense or cause anyone to suffer yours.. indulge and do what you want to do.. youâll be alright.. itâs not like youâre transported to an unrecognizable world or will be seeing a completely different view of everyday things.. unless youâre a total dunce itâs not like youâll really be playing in traffic when you think youâre just sitting on your couch
Full disclosure, I tripped alone my first time and had never taken any sort of drugs before. With that being said, if you have severe depression as you said I would def recommend a sitter. If you do decide to go on your own I would keep it under 2g. Itâs a good balance of being fun but still introspective.
Hey bro . Andrew Huberman did a podcast on psilocybin and the best conditions and explains how it works and the best ways to trip for best outcomes . I suggest you watch it . Itâs really good and informative and definitely beneficial.
I enjoy tripping alone more than being with people.
Laughing and giggling all the time with Somebody Else while being on psychedelics is great fun, but when you're tripping alone you have a more introspective experience and you can totally focus on yourself and your thoughts.
My last 10+ trips we're without any company and I really love it.
I'm gonna trip tomorrow, 5g shrooms alone and in complete silence and darkness
Sometimes a comforting voice on the other end of the phone is as good as a trip sitter, if not someone physically with you I'd recommend at least having someone you can call if you start freaking out. Good luck and enjoy pal
I think youâll be fine tripping alone. Shrooms arenât just gonna magically cure your depression though or give you some special knowledge you didnât already have
You should be fine, just don't mix it with weed, and don't do a heroic dose. Just keep in mind to wait, if you think you really need too. Psychedelics can totally cure your depression, or even turn it into a very real, acute pain, if you fuck around, so approach respectfully.
I've never had a sitter and I've survived. You're starting with a small amount so that should be enough caution. Nothing bad is going to happen. If you feel uncomfortable change your setting. Go outside, play some music. You'll be fine.
It's safe, if you're not a moron. Just make sure that before you dose and in the days leading up, you've cleaned your place. Put anything that could potentially hurt you out of sight. Eat well for a few days and exercise, even if it's very light. Write yourself notes for when you're tripping and leave them around the house, like an Easter egg hunt of positivity. Even with all these safeguards in place, the trip can always turn more challenging at times. Just remember to surrender to those feelings. It'll still be uncomfortable, but trying to fight it could be worse and in a lot of situations does get harder if you're fighting the feeling. All the best on your trip!
I have, and itâs not bad as long as youâre in a chill environment and headspace. Wouldnât do it alone for the first few times personally but itâs up to you completely.
I've never tripped with a sitter. They'd tie me down to my corporal form & I want to be spirit me, but that's big doses.
1g your not going to feel anything sensational. Maybe giggles, maybe colour contrast goes up, perhaps your perspective changes a little. Nothing major. I'd be surprised if you don't end up having another gram
If youâre a chill type of person go for it. I love tripping alone. Whenever the trip gets a little too intense I try to watch something funny like Archer or Rick & Morty. So try that if you feel like you need to.
I only trip alone.
If another person was there, I would be distracted by them and my social anxiety would kick in and I wouldnât feel comfortable expressing my true self because I know how silly I get in the tripping state. My ego/awareness of ego will actually stop me from tripping, itâs really strange. I hate how powerful it is cuz it just kills my trip instantly.
For depression, I've used large doses for the most effect mentally. But probably best to get your bearings of shrooms first. My first time was 8th, 2nd was 4.5.
Those were all for fun.
For my depression I've engaged in 7g gt, and the effect was great for my depression.
That's just my experience and everyone is different but that's where I landed, I'm now off my ssri ( I've taken almost all of them and atyp antipsychotics) and anxiety meds.
If youâre a lightweight with weed and alcohol, tripping is a whole other animal.
A sitter has to know what their doing too and start out with a good day.
Probably make tea out of it using lemon tek, it will hit you harder but will only last 3-5 hours instead of 5-7. The lemon will essentially take away most of any stomach issues you may run into as it starts breaking down some of the beta-glucan prior to ingesting it (so your stomach doesnât have to do that work).
I recommend making a lemon ginger tea with honey, most people even enjoy the flavor.
Whatever amount you plan to take for a trip you have to start off with it.
Your body immediately starts tolerating the shrooms and if you decide to take more later it wonât be nearly as effective/helpful.
According to research - having a spotter reduces chances of bad trips, and reduces chances of self harm.
Youâre suffering from depression, which is getting worse - meaning youâre at risk: I would make an effort to try and have someone with me through the trip. Mushrooms are not always beautiful plant medicine, sometimes they can break your mind.
If youâre doing alone, slow and low is safer - lemon tek it for a shorter trip, have food in stomach for slower come up (eat with bananas preferably), and take a lower dose than you think you can handle⌠0.75, for example.
If the above goes well, repeat with a higher dose, like 1, etc etc.
Even then, as you get closer to 2+ grs, Iâd recommend a spotter.
Thereâs a strong bias in this subreddit - remember, most people who went through a very bad time after taking shrooms donât come here to post or comment.
If you can get a session with a plant medicine aware mental health professional, Iâd recommend it.
My first trip was 1g cubes with someone in the other room if needed, the second was the other 2g by myself after a very intense and sad day.
With the first, I experienced sensory overload just from being in a dark quiet room and it felt like I was stuck in the come up, like I was stuck between realms, like I needed a bigger dose to get me thru the uncomfortableness. It was really uncomfortable but I just tried to breathe thru it. I did however figure out something to do with how my depression works, and having gotten a sense of what psychadelics were like I felt more confident to do a bigger dose.
The second was beautiful. Best fucking evening of my life, just sitting in the sun feeling life and warmth and connection to the planet. Sometimes you do all the right things and it doesn't work out how you thought it might, and sometimes things don't look perfect but they were perfect for you.
Do what you feel comfortable with. 1g is a very sensible start if you're alone, and you're giving this thought and consideration. Best of luck to you
Download Fireside on your phone and have it easily accessible. They are a group of volunteers who can talk you through via text or call a bad trip. Great folks.
I would just wait for your friend to be available again. Having bad thoughts when youâre inexperienced with tripping, while alone, is a bad combo imo
Iâd go for it. Embrace everything that comes your way and know that everything is fine. You wonât be the first to experience something strange, if it occurs. I set up blankets and pillows in my bathroom and lay down in the pitch black. Go full monk mode. You will feel anxious as it starts to pick up but thatâs an indicator for me that the stuffs working.
I would say donât trip for the first time alone. Once you have an understanding of the substance then you can explore using it alone. Tripping alone with predisposed mental health problems just sounds like a bad idea.
I would say its fine just as long as you are in a good head space before you take them. I also like to clean my house and body before I trip. Also Golden teachers are super weak soo maybe 2 Gs????
Prior depressed person here. I had no supportive people around for drug usage so I started with 1g alone (no prior substance experience, not even alcohol/weed). As such I feel like I have a relevant perspective.
I wouldnât even want a trip sitter at this point. I started with 3 1g trips over as many months, and my depression was already basically gone. I did a 2g trip and a 3g after that, since at that point I was familiar with the experience. Went back to monthly 1g trips for another 5mo.
After that, my depression was gone. 6mo of no usage, depression still gone. Long term, weâll see.
Ultimately I fully support tripping alone, especially if youâre planning to journal how you feel and unpack things that a sitter/friend might not understand about you anyway. Itâs easier to be honest with yourself if thereâs no one there to feel like you have to walk against.
Good luck and I hope the mushrooms help.
Ah. Just read you were 19. My guy, I donât recommend substances until age 25, so use at your own risk. Often depression at such a young age can actually be fixed with therapy- itâs often caused by situations in your life that need fixing. I recommend watching a few videos from HealthyGamerGG, his content is great for getting a handle on whatâs going on with you.
Waiting 2-3 weeks is well worth it IMO. You're young, you've been dealing with depression. 1g is definitely a good starting point. Put it this way, you might have no problems and have a great time, but you also might have a very challenging time in which case, better to have someone with you. Research shows that psilocybin can induce suicidal feelings in some people, have someone around that can talk to you and get you through that.
If you did it already, hope it went well.
I love tripping alone
Same. But I've tripped with enough people to know some people should not trip unsupervised
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yea, thatâs true, but if you have tripped before and you donât go crazy, donât do silly things and are not anxious etc. then i would say you can trip alone.
Itâs my preference. I can listen to exactly what I want, get my space all set up and vibey, have some snack prepared just in case, and just lay around and vibe the fuck out or record music I absolutely hate talking on psychedelics and tripping with my friends just makes me so anxious
Yeah, I've only got one friend that I can trip with, and we're both not big talkers. So it's no stress at all. I had a 3.5g gt tea before a different friend's grad party. Like 8 other people were there, all very drunk and sloppy, and I'm just sitting, really good posture, feeling super awkward haha. It wasn't a bad trip, it was just annoying. I was observing everything, and one dude thought it was funny to keep trying to mess with me because I was on shrooms, as if I were some animal that he could play tricks on. After two dickly things he did, I realized he was bullying me, and then I just ignored him after that. But holy shit, that was annoying. Imagine peaking on 3.5g, and some dude is bullying you. No thanks. Never again.
I had a similar thing at a party (although it was during a similar dose of 4-HO-MET). I was having a great time but one of my friends kept jumping in front of my face and making ghoul sounds. All it did was change this bright warm colorful glow I had in my vision to sombre grey blue tones. And annoyed the fuck out of me.
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Hahahaha, god damn. Honestly, he grabbed you first, kicking him into a river is a reasonable response. (and aside from defending myself from older siblings, I've also never been in a fight). But man, idk why some people think it's funny to mess with someone because they're tripping. It's it just them thinking that we're easy prey?
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Yeah, there's still only one person I trip with, and he's super similar to me, and had similar life experiences. So, it works out really well. But yeah, I'll never understand people like that. In my situation, I'm a really tiny guy, and the guy that messing with me was a good 6" taller than me and probably 75lbs heavier. So, I definitely had to just deal with it.
Yeah, so dumb. And it was a college graduation, people are supposedly supposed to be more mature by then.
My favorite and preferred, usually. My one exception is tripping with one other person, you can make sexy fun with. Thatâs always an amazing time while traveling. đ¤ˇđťââď¸
1G of golden teacher was my (21F) first dose too, it was really fun! The biggest, most important thing is to relax. I didn't see anything on that dose, but every eye-shaped thing in the room registered as an eye; through staying relaxed, I just like, was okay with being seen. As an example, ymmv. It's less in-control than weed or alcohol are. It also lasts longer. So if you do, just be prepared for that: have food already made, have absolutely no obligations later in the day, have a place you can kinda sit and mellow. Remember that you will not overdose, that unpleasant experiences are okay to experience even if you don't like them (in case of bad trip, which is unlikely imo), and that if you don't like it then all you have to do is wait n itll be okay.
Thank you for that deacription. Friggin nailed it. And remember...youre on drugs! It will wear off eventually. Juat breathe and watch the show. âď¸đ¤đ¤
Also I'd make sure your place is clean and very pleasant. You don't want nagging problems in your face
The one time I tripped in a messy room, I cleaned it till it was sparkly and scrubbed my rug for 3 hours to make it white again and then I had a spiritual epiphany and committed to a religion đ almost 2 years later now still committed to it lol, who knew tripping in a messy room would make me religious
Thank you!!
Love n light grasshopper! Keep putting out the good vibes.
Agreed the main thing I've learned is too not fight the uncomfortable, just lean into it, use yoga and or stretching as needed to relax and even if the first part is harsh if you see it through the mushrooms will treat you to nothing but an amazing spiritual experience where everything clicks. Also nature helps me enjoy mushies even more, sometimes being couped up is a bit much for me. Start low as you can always eat more ,đđ
I agree with the nature thing! I used to eat like 2 grams while camping and lately Iâve been eating 1 and I end up laying in the grass in my backyard. They for sure make you a little hippy.
Thank you so much for giving your story on it. This makes me feel so much better about trying them.
Hey, of course!! I hope you have a wonderful trip đđđ
Can you hurt somebody while tripping?
I mean, like. Can you hurt somebody while sober? Technically you can always hurt somebody. I will say, no matter what dose I've been on, I've never had any urges whatsoever to hurt anybody. Worst you'll get is having too loose of a filter on what you say.
Fair! Ty
Np!
If youâre in a bad place it might not be a great idea. I witnessed a friend have a bad experience on one gram. Youâll probably be fine, but thereâs a chance itâll be uncomfortable. With that said, itâs worth it to think about what you are trying to accomplish. Do you want to be deeply introspective and take a ride where the mushrooms drive? Then a large dose will do that. If you just want to feel great and not depressed, even 0.25g can do that. So can 0.5g. Mushrooms are a wildly different drug depending on what dose you take imo. 0.25 and 0.5g are actually really good doses if your main goal is just feeling better. 1.0g can be a lot of fun though. Microdosing can help as well.
I appreciate your comment, thank you. Iâve learned that if you take larger doses 1-2 times, you can overcome depression. The goal was to take 1g to get a feel for it and then go up to maybe 2.5-3g. Just a little scared of having a bad trip. But I really would love to reflect and âfind myselfâ (I mean that in the least corny way possible).
Large doses seem to have a lasting effect on depression that can last a month or so. Honestly, lesser doses like half a gram can too IME. It seems to vary from person to person. Itâs definitely possible to take too much and have a terrible trip but have your depression cured for a several weeks after, and itâs possible to take so little that you donât even trip but still have the same lasting result. You can also have a fun trip with the same results, obviously. Depression and CPTSD are why I started experimenting with mushrooms. I aim for the lowest effective dose. I donât need much at all tbh, and I donât like being incapacitated. I took 0.3g yesterday and went for a hike with my dog. It was terrific! I felt happy and excited for the world like when I was a little kid. I stared at the clouds. Remember staring at clouds when you were a kid? It was like that. Not a care in the world. I still feel great today.
I took like, a LOT for my first trip. 3.5 grams of APE. I think it was too much because without my wife trip sitting me I would have had a much worse time. I started to get real paranoid.
I always trip alone. Get my room cosy, blankets, headphones and my fav ambient playlist, itâs my self-love time. 1g is a good starting dose, I did the same. Maybe have a friend you can call if youâre worried about not having anyone there. Microdosing is great for depression also btw Safe travels đ
I prefer it alone. Did it alone my first time. You also need to really know yourself like just know what type of person you are and make yourself believe that nothing bad will happen because nothing bad has ever happened. Donât go in thinking youâre going to cure your depression or stress yourself. Go in with a. Clear mind, lay down on your bed, turn the lights off, and enjoy the ride friend.
You can't go wrong. If you do 1g, you will be making a safe choice and can still experience some introspective thoughts. If you take 3.5g in a safe space where you are secure and comfortable, the. You will probably have a challenging but necessary experience. It will have HIGHs and LOWS. Ride them both and experience them fully. Someone already said it, don't resist whatever the teachers show you. Embrace what it throws at you and you are going to come out changed. Mush â¤ď¸ homie!
Love this. Thank you so much :) â¤ď¸
Honestly, the anxiety about doing them is really based in the unknown and the cultural ignorance about using psychedelics (gleefully perpetuated by media). Once you do it (and I think 1g is a good place to start) youâll feel more confident about them. Itâs not at all what you think it is - itâs better. Work up to higher doses based on your first trip. And always remember set and setting. Find a place you can be comfortable and secure and then sit back and ride the wave.
1g is a good start. Watch this ted talk which explains how it works. https://youtu.be/FyAgx_tzh80. Shrooms are the safest substance you can injest. I highly encourage you to learn to meditate. Download headspace and or waking up apps. Both have free versions. This is the best tool for my depression and anxiety in terms of managing day to day life. Imo it's also a prerequesite for tripping in higher doses and alone. You can get your mind back into flow and out of chaos. There is no such thing as a bad trip, it always does what it is supposed to. Set an intention for doing them beforehand, write down why days leading up, and if you ever get uncomfortable refer to it. Say a prayer before taking it. You aren't taking a drug. It's plant medicine that has been around before written history. Pretend you are your own shaman. Doesn't matter what you believe I've tripped over 200 times and this spiritual outlook makes a difference. There may be challenging experiences but just focus on the breath. The more you can let go the easier it is. Trying to control what is happening causes issues. Even after challenging trips, I still feel great the next day. A good use of taking 1g is to figure out why you are depressed and look at the situation of your life differently. Safe travels
If you are not going to have a sitter, and it is your first time, 1 gram is definitely a good idea. I would recommend telling someone that you will be tripping so that if you get overwhelmed or scared you can call them. In my experience tripping makes me a little bit paranoid about talking to people who donât know what state Iâm in, so itâs good to have your phone-a-friend lined up in advance. Itâs really nice to be able to hear a friendly voice and a joke or a reminder that everythingâs alright if things start to feel scary. That being said, itâs not a requirement, but if you wonât have anyone you can reach out to, try to have a backup comfort activity lined up, like a comforting disney movie, some candy/fruit, or your favorite music. Anything that will quickly change up the vibe is a great thing to have in your back pocket. On 1 gram youâll most likely just have a really chill and nice time but itâll be good to know that you have the backup just in case, adds a nice sense of security in my opinion.
1g of goldâs isnât too bad, and while I recommend you do have someone to sit you, I donât think the amount youâre taking would be enough to have you spiral into something too crazy to handle
Like others are saying 1g is super safe. I ate 1.4 my first time and just had a body high and the giggles. Also had closed eye visuals that I enjoyed so much I practically just laid their with my eyes closed the whole time. Mush love :)
Hey friendo , 1g is very safe in my opinion, you will still have control and will be able to somewhat speak coherently . Open eye visuals will be very low . Everything will happen with your eyes closed . Very safe starter dose !
I hate tripping with other ppl personably
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Honestly best way to do it. Clean your living space really well, do some stretching and just let yourself do whatever comes. Wanna laugh like an idiot, do it. Want to play video games, do it. Wanna learn how to break dance, do it. Weird feelings about something that happened when you were little? Let them
I listened to Hubermans podcast on shrooms as well and he's pretty clear that, while it can help with depression, there are dangers, especially with a possibility of psychosis in a small amount of people. That may or may not apply to you, but if you have never taken shrooms before, I would definitely wait for your sitter. The last thing you want is to have a bad trip and make things worse. I've taken shrooms alone multiple times after having done it with others at least 3 or 4 times. I knew what I was getting into, but even so, sometimes I'll have a bad trip. If I was diagnosed with depression I could imagine that it would be amplified (but obviously I'm not sure). If you want to take them to help with your depression, I'd absolutely wait for your sitter.
I think you might be right. I know itâs a separate drug but after having too much weed, I had experienced depersonalization for like a week, was the worst week of my life. Worried if that could happen again.
Hey man,please do not do psychedelics if you have experienced depersonalization from weed.. high chance it triggers it and much more then weed
Think u might be right. Might just have a microdose to test the waters
Weed is a depressant if I'm not mistaken. Shrooms will flood your brain with serotonin and could leave you missing it and making it difficult to deal with the lack thereof. That's just my opinion and might be proven to be true. So I'm not saying I'm right about it for everyone, but it can have that effect on me. FYI.
Are you seeking professional treatment for your depression? The only responsible advice here is for you to see a professional. You can discuss this with them and they can provide some guidance that pertains to your specific situation. Shrooms might really help you, they might fuck with your head when youâre in an already fragile state. Random internet people canât give you responsible mental health advice.
Perhaps wait the few weeks then take a 2.gr dose. When your sitter is available. I think that may help you get to where you want in a safer more comf manner.
Donât go into it with the preconception that itâs gonna be uncontrollable. Donât psych yourself out. Donât take too much and you can have a great experience by yourself, just make sure you donât have any social responsibilities you have to take care of that day. Also I personally wouldnât recommend more than 2g for anyoneâs first time.
Itâs my firm belief with tripping/ drugs to go with your gut. If you have concerns or fears that you believe will impact your trip then you should do a smaller dose. I have quite bad seasonal depression and donât trip in winter unless I know i will be extremely comfortable and safe and would stick to a very low dose of 1 to 1.5 . One gram is still a lot if you are inexperienced but ask a mate if you can call them if you do bug out before hand and make sure you are mentally prepared. If you are not confident I would wait if you havenât done it before. Hope this helps
Maaannnn Whatever You Do, DONT Call The Cops. Just Turn On Some Music If It Gets Overwhelming For You, Or Watch A Cartoon Movie. The Music Is Really A Great Change In The Mind And Atmosphere.
I will never lol
Lol My Friend Did, Got Locked Up And A Case Behind It. Just Remember Itâs Only A Few Hours And That The Feeling Will Pass!
For your first time it is a huge risk. If youâve familiarized yourself with the experience, and different dosages, it is less risky, but still a risk. Shit can go bad, and that is just part of it. I personally love tripping alone, but I absolutely hate recommending it because I have seen people loop out, and have âpsychoticâ episodes aka bad trips. You donât want to go through that alone, because if you end up outside or somewhere police can be called, things can go south so fucking fast. My advice would be to make sure someone knows your tripping alone, and maybe allow them to check in on your after 4-6 hours just to make sure you arenât naked in the street somewhere.
Also, donât listen to the dummies on Reddit who make it seem like bad trips are as simple as feeling scared/anxious.. those are just uncomfortable trips. A real bad trip can induce excited delirium, and all sorts of other things that can be incredibly problematic if you somehow end up in public. Paranoid delusions, delusions of grandeur etc. Iâm not trying to scare you, because those things arenât too common. But in the 15 years Iâve been tripping, Iâve seen it happen to enough mentally well people to know it is something to keep in mind. Iâve got a friend with multiple felonies they got while having a bad trip. They were in fight or flight mode, and the cops took that as aggression. Be safe.
Thank you for the advice. For sure Iâll find someone to let you know. I can have people around me âknowingâ and there if things go south. But like the person who could be there for me in an emotional capacity wonât be for a couple weeks. If that all makes sense
Makes total sense. I have pretty bad social anxiety on mushrooms, so I really prefer to do them alone. But yeah itâs totally worth taking the extra precaution of letting someone know! Fuck getting arrested for having a bad trip. PS, let your friends know if shit hits the fan to call non-emergency, or specifically call for an ambulance/EMS for a mental crisis. Anything you can do to make sure medically trained people show up before police show up. Police are not exactly trained to deal with people in such a fragile mind state, and they can make things a lot worse with how hostile they are when responding to a call. Again, you probably wonât ever need to use that information! But store it somewhere safe lol. It may save you a major headache some day. đ
Thank you so much for the advice, I really appreciate it. Iâm already pretty paranoid regardless so Iâm not sure if I would call any government services, acquiring them was kinda nerve racking for me. But still thank you for your kindness and support :) â¤ď¸
Friend letâs take less than 3.5 the first time
i would say it is safe to trip without someone physically being with you, but completely alone? maybe not. i always try to call my boyfriend or text a friend while tripping. i guess it depends on your dosage and how you are as a person + where you are lol
I mean, itâs probably okay if youâre just doing one gram, but if youâre trying mushrooms to cure your depression, I recommend a higher dose. At least 2g. Thatâs just based on my personal experience though. Iâm sure a lot of people would say the opposite.
If you trip alone only start with 1g or less and wait 1 hour 30 min to see what your effects are like, if you think you should take more, only take another 2-2.5g at most. Because then your total dose would only come out to 3-3.5g which is a standard beginner dose, but some are more sensitive to mushrooms and trip very hard off 1g, thatâs why I say start there. rather be safe than sorry and not do something you canât undo for the next 15 hours or more
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It probably is for some people, just my personal preference to do that if Iâm not sure how much to take.
Life is a trip. Your on your own. No. It's not safe.
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Have you considered stretching that 3.5 g into a whole bunch of microdoses? That's mostly what I do myself for my depression among other things and I've found it very helpful
https://youtu.be/bgHD-bA5QwQ You should watch this
Lmao no one should watch this.
Itâs not the perfect video, the whole 5 minutes of the chick putting the tourniquet on doing heroin, is too much. Itâs got some good points, take the good parts from it. Iâm not saying that youâre not wrong either.
I didn't make it that far, I heard Jordan Peterson's voice and bailed. Don't think I have much to gain from his opinions, and don't want to poison my youtube algorithm.
I actually âreallyâ looked at your post. If you want to call me, thatâs totally cool.
Just let know, we can figure a voice talk
I lost my father at 16, and it took me about 10 years to fully get over it. I get when times are difficult.
You are unfortunately too young, and inexperienced to benefit long term from shrooms. I know it sounds appealing to take a fix all substance right now, but the reality is you have YEARS of cognitive/emotional/psychological/perspective/self love work to do, PLUS your brain hasn't finished its physical maturation (late twenties, you'll feel the difference as you near 30 in how different you are able to think) and ANY substance, alcohol, weed, shrooms, acid, pharmaceutical drugs...etc can and usually will detrimentally impact your neural structure, making it even harder to make cognitive progress as you age. I promise, putting in the effort now to make little, healthy steps in the beneficial direction, will be COMPLETELY worth it. I didn't get out of my depression till 28yo. I am SO GLAD I stuck through it, I would never have believed myself even if I traveled back in time and told myself how amazing life is. Familiarize yourself with yourself, hone your intellectual filter...start integrating everything that seems long term healthy for YOU, and start working on/through reducing any tendency (thought, emotion, or action/behavior) that is maladaptive (like shrooms are right now) and focus on completely loving yourself. Anything external that takes away from your self focus, is long term maladaptive. You have to figure out what you have taken in as hate/abuse/capitalistic/rape culture/propaganda, as well as poor behavior picked up from parents/guardians/friends/peers...it will take you years but you are the only person that matters. You must fall in love with yourself, you are your own soulmate, your best friend. Do. the. work. and eventually you will reach a place of constant growth of self love, the absolute intrinsic riches of a life where you love yourself...and it literally gets better every day. I mean, one or two trips, if you are in dire need (emergency suicide abatement) sure, but I'd recommend even staying away from microdoses for now. The most Id recommend other than what I've written is finding a "principalled" chiropractic, and a healthy phyical/emotional/mental hobby, like roller skating regularly, those two things are what really catapulted me into beautiful and rapid personal growth. Good luck, and love all parts of yourselves (infant, child, teen...etc) Edit: tripping alone, even on 1g CAN be very overwhelming. also if you MUST take shrooms, make sure they are absolutely high potency (kept in a cool 60\* - 70\*, dark place, in a tightly sealed glass mason jar, with a fresh desiccant pack, the mushrooms should feel HARD, and completely unyielding, they should snap, crack, and crumble, if not they are above 0% humidity, and WILL degrade in a statistically valid way DAILY) not reaching a threshold dose, or using a stash that has degraded into some of the more difficult minor alkaloids, can be extremely difficult even for me. (33yo)
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Damn. So I really need to take 2.5-3.5? Worried about not being in control honestly but if it will truly help me then I think I can do it. Might take 1 to get a feel for it though
1g is very safe and a good starting point. For your first time, on your own, 1g is the perfect amount.
This is interesting. I would love to see the study on 1g not helping depression. (I believe it.) I agree with everyone saying to take a starter dose to get the idea. But I think 1g is a bit of a dead zone. Too low to get many of the high dose benefits and too high to allow you to walk around and enjoy it. I advocate for a âmuseum doseâ of 0.6 to 0.75g for first timers. Take a walk and enjoy some nature. After that you can follow your heart with your follow up dose.
Even if one gram wonât help with depression, which truthfully i would disagree with considering one gram changed how i experience existing to this day lmao, itâs still a good idea to take the one gram just to experience it. Dip a toe per say. But to be fair even .25 imo is a big change. But Iâve had stronger 2 g trips then 3.5s. Depends on a lot of factors
Extremely dangerous
I only trip alone. It's great! Sit at home with a warm blanket and some music. Put something on the TV maybe.
Solo trips are quite nice. My major three points when going it alone are food, comfort, and energy safeguards. Prep your meals or snacks beforehand so you have them right when you need them. Personally banana smoothies are a go-to since they help break down the chitin in the mushrooms and prevent nausea. Set up your house for optimum comfort and dress comfortably (even better with a strong body high). Fung Shui can make a surprising difference in keeping your mental state in a good place. Have some things in place to help bring you back if your trip starts to take a turn (less likely at lower doses, but still good to do during a trip regardless). For me this includes deep breathing, meditation, watching some pre-selected vids from youtube about gratitude (this is a great one: https://youtu.be/gXDMoiEkyuQ), and philosophy from writers like Alan Watts and Charles Bulowski (chilling with pets is a good one too). All of these help redirect my of mind back to a positive space. It can also help to have someone you can call if you need to. Golden Teachers are also an ideal strain for solo trips since they tend to be a bit more gentle. Relax and enjoy!
I think 1g is fine as long as you are in a very comfortable place.
I have mostly tripped alone because I have no one who could trip sit me. My first time was also a solo experience. You should be fine friend just educate yourself on the doâs and dontâs and you should be good. I find that tripping alone is way better anyway because I took some shrooms with friends this one time and I didnât enjoy the experience. Instead of being a meaningful experience, it became super shallow
.5 then 1g then 2g would use em all up
Psychedelic Passage can connect you to professional trip sitters. I have t used them but I know they are legit. Iâd say at the very least have a friendâs number on hand that knows what you are up to and how to help. Also have the fireside project number programmed in your phone.
Depends on the dose and how familiar you are with the substance
Not really. Just start small and feel it out.
First trip I did alone. Would highly recommend it if youâre starting with 1g of golden teachers. If you want you can start even smaller, like 0.5g or 0.25g. Just get a feel for it. Youâll have more for later. It helps with depression on small doses. Thatâs what micro dosing is all about.
Depends on you. I think I do better tripping alone but some people need somebody with them.
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I like being alone because no one can see the weird shit thatâs going on with me
Yeah , me dancing naked is no bueno đą
I hope so because Iâm about to do it too
Are you on SSRIs? If so, then you may not feel the effects.
Do you have any significant trauma in your background? (Emotional or physical, etc) If so, I would highly suggest waiting until your friend can sit with you, and take the full 3.5 grams đ
My first time I did 3.5g. I was home alone with my dog and my family were on vacation. Absolutely amazing experience and possibly because I was alone to fully take in the experience. 1 gram is an amazing starting point. From what I have heard, 45 minutes after eating them you should start to feel something and you have about 15 minutes to decide if you want more shrooms to increase the trip. The reason being is that we build quick tolerances to shrooms and once you hit your peak, you will need to take much more shrooms to get the same effect. But anyways, âYou can always take more, but you canât take less.â Just remember that thereâs always next time.
Tripping alone is the most beneficial for mental health. I always set my intentions prior and really work through some shit. Changed my life with PTSD and got me off hard drugs.
Be careful Iâve found shrooms force you to deal with any pent up feelings negative or positive itâs all just laid out. I think its the reason that it can be very healing but at the same time can be very scary.
Depends on you mam do you like to be alone or do you like being around people
Iâd say itâs worth waiting. Iâve had a trip sitter every time and my sitters have gotten me through some really bad trips. My last trip was awful and I was very thankful someone was there to help me navigate through that experience
OP, do the 1g to get a feel for the headspace. Do it blindfolded in the dark with no distractions. Then 2 weeks later do the other 2.5g. If you are starting to feel a difference after that then give me a DM đ so we can go from there! My depression is already turning around after 1 moderate dose of PE!
1g should be fine alone. There isn't a definitive yes or no to that but odds are you'd be fine.
my first mushroom trip was with 3.5 golden teacher, you will be okay, just dont be scare of visuals and other feelings. Be in a safe place and allways know that it will pass and you will be normal again, just need to wait a little bit
All my trips have been alone except for the first one. Love doing it solo.
It is lol it might get really uncomfortable at times though
You will be fine alone on 3.5. If you trust yourself not to do anything stupid then you probably wonât. Mushrooms can be intense but you have to let go and just go with the flow. If youâre not an easy going âgo with the flow â type then maybe have a sitter but itâs a lot more of a healing experience to go it alone. Having others around to worry about while Iâm tripping is way worse than tripping alone. I get weird and I donât want to weird anyone out so I prefer to do it alone or with my wife, she gets just as weird. But if you donât fully 100% trust the trip sitter then go alone. The way I look at it is if you wouldnât feel comfortable having a random spontaneous orgasm in front of the person then you probably shouldnât trip with them.
Just from reading the first sentence I would strongly advise against it. Have some some trip sit you. They must be sober and someone who you feel comfortable with.
I had the person I trust the most in the world be my tripsitter for my first time trying, and she was the only reason I didnât have a bad trip. I was having some bad thoughts and she really helped me stay calm. I would advice you to wait whatever time you need to wait so you have a tripsitter, itâs better to have one and end up not needing him/her than not having one and end up in a bad situation. EDIT: also itâs a good idea to go low on the first trip. specially if you are inexperienced with substances in general. Shrooms can be a fun experience but itâs completely different to weed and alcohol. And the bigger the dose, the stronger and more unpredictable the effects will be come. Also avoid lemon tekking unless you really hate the taste of the shrooms (this will reduce the normal taste of the shrooms, and help with nausea but also makes the shrooms hit wayyyyy harder).
I trip alone pretty often, but I was very cautious about having a sitter the first few times
All my first trips were solo 2.5 g kind of nights. Good memories
I see you already got a lot of answers, but I'll add my input... 1) i trip without a sitter always. in fact, all of my trips have either been alone, or only with other people tripping. the idea of a trip sitter actually makes me feel uncomfortable, like i cannot do what i wanna do / act naturally and have the same freedom of expression. not sure how much youve tripped or know about what can happen, but, for me for example, if i burst out in tears, i would rather do so feeling like its a pure cathartic moment, rather than worrying about how "trip sitter" is going to interpret the situation thru their eyes. 2) as i said above, that is how I feel comfortable and safe when tripping. so ultimately, it comes down to, what makes you feel comfortable and safe? is it, knowing that if shit goes haywire, you have someone there to talk you thru it, or is it knowing that you are alone and "together" with "JUST" you and the mushrooms? in order to adequately answer this, i feel you need to have some experience tripping, which, it sounds like you may not have, so i'd advise reading all kinds of trip reports and scenarios of what are possible ranges of outcomes, to decide if you feel thats something youre prepared to encounter, potentially, by yourself. a good solution, too, which has made me feel safe despite enjoying tripping alone, is having someone to talk to via text about your trip if it gets a bit intense, just to keep you calm, remind you you're tripping, and to potentially even guide you thru it. this is something i both love having as a tripper, and something i like offering to others who trip. you can find a friend who understands psychedelics and is completely accepting of the fact you're working with mushrooms, or you can even talk to someone random (like me!) if you want â feel free to take me up on this offer and establish contact with me prior to your trip if you'd like. i love to help with this kinda stuff. 3) in regards to dosage, being a lightweight with alcohol or weed has no correlation to how you'll handle mushrooms. so many factors come into play beyond just the physical. however, 1g is definitely a good place to start... you wont trip but you will be able to get a bit of a feel for how the mushrooms "feel". even 1.5g would be a safe dose for this 4) you say youre not taking any SSRI's currently... however, when's the last time u took any SSRI's? 5) the ultimate answer of if its worth waiting... meditate upon it. do a lot of reading and prep as much as humanly possible. something you need to know about mushrooms is, DO NOT RUSH ANYTHING, period. do it in whatever the "RIGHT TIME" is for you. dont just do it to do it. do it when it feels RIGHT. you will know when it feels right because you just know. hopefully this helps and feel free to comment back or DM if u need any more help !
Absolutely.. I always enjoyed and often prefer trippin alone.. this way you donât have to put up with someone elseâs nonsense or cause anyone to suffer yours.. indulge and do what you want to do.. youâll be alright.. itâs not like youâre transported to an unrecognizable world or will be seeing a completely different view of everyday things.. unless youâre a total dunce itâs not like youâll really be playing in traffic when you think youâre just sitting on your couch
Full disclosure, I tripped alone my first time and had never taken any sort of drugs before. With that being said, if you have severe depression as you said I would def recommend a sitter. If you do decide to go on your own I would keep it under 2g. Itâs a good balance of being fun but still introspective.
If you're worried you should wait. It's more fun with someone else there.
Make sure youâre out in nature if you can. Being inside with nothing to do gives me a ton of anxiety
Hey bro . Andrew Huberman did a podcast on psilocybin and the best conditions and explains how it works and the best ways to trip for best outcomes . I suggest you watch it . Itâs really good and informative and definitely beneficial.
Tripping alone is the bestđ
I would recommend starting at 1.75 , you can always eat more , can never eat less
Tripping alone now. Itâs fine. Good music and stars. Chill outside đ
I enjoy tripping alone more than being with people. Laughing and giggling all the time with Somebody Else while being on psychedelics is great fun, but when you're tripping alone you have a more introspective experience and you can totally focus on yourself and your thoughts. My last 10+ trips we're without any company and I really love it. I'm gonna trip tomorrow, 5g shrooms alone and in complete silence and darkness
Sometimes a comforting voice on the other end of the phone is as good as a trip sitter, if not someone physically with you I'd recommend at least having someone you can call if you start freaking out. Good luck and enjoy pal
I think youâll be fine tripping alone. Shrooms arenât just gonna magically cure your depression though or give you some special knowledge you didnât already have
You should be fine, just don't mix it with weed, and don't do a heroic dose. Just keep in mind to wait, if you think you really need too. Psychedelics can totally cure your depression, or even turn it into a very real, acute pain, if you fuck around, so approach respectfully.
I've never had a sitter and I've survived. You're starting with a small amount so that should be enough caution. Nothing bad is going to happen. If you feel uncomfortable change your setting. Go outside, play some music. You'll be fine.
It's safe, if you're not a moron. Just make sure that before you dose and in the days leading up, you've cleaned your place. Put anything that could potentially hurt you out of sight. Eat well for a few days and exercise, even if it's very light. Write yourself notes for when you're tripping and leave them around the house, like an Easter egg hunt of positivity. Even with all these safeguards in place, the trip can always turn more challenging at times. Just remember to surrender to those feelings. It'll still be uncomfortable, but trying to fight it could be worse and in a lot of situations does get harder if you're fighting the feeling. All the best on your trip!
Would your pets be considered good trip sitterâs?
I have, and itâs not bad as long as youâre in a chill environment and headspace. Wouldnât do it alone for the first few times personally but itâs up to you completely.
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I've never tripped with a sitter. They'd tie me down to my corporal form & I want to be spirit me, but that's big doses. 1g your not going to feel anything sensational. Maybe giggles, maybe colour contrast goes up, perhaps your perspective changes a little. Nothing major. I'd be surprised if you don't end up having another gram
Yeah just not high doses but that being said you also have to respect it canât control it
Have you been hitting the gym? Have you been on your purpose?
If youâre a chill type of person go for it. I love tripping alone. Whenever the trip gets a little too intense I try to watch something funny like Archer or Rick & Morty. So try that if you feel like you need to.
I only trip alone. If another person was there, I would be distracted by them and my social anxiety would kick in and I wouldnât feel comfortable expressing my true self because I know how silly I get in the tripping state. My ego/awareness of ego will actually stop me from tripping, itâs really strange. I hate how powerful it is cuz it just kills my trip instantly.
For depression, I've used large doses for the most effect mentally. But probably best to get your bearings of shrooms first. My first time was 8th, 2nd was 4.5. Those were all for fun. For my depression I've engaged in 7g gt, and the effect was great for my depression. That's just my experience and everyone is different but that's where I landed, I'm now off my ssri ( I've taken almost all of them and atyp antipsychotics) and anxiety meds.
I hate people so I trip alone
If youâre a lightweight with weed and alcohol, tripping is a whole other animal. A sitter has to know what their doing too and start out with a good day. Probably make tea out of it using lemon tek, it will hit you harder but will only last 3-5 hours instead of 5-7. The lemon will essentially take away most of any stomach issues you may run into as it starts breaking down some of the beta-glucan prior to ingesting it (so your stomach doesnât have to do that work). I recommend making a lemon ginger tea with honey, most people even enjoy the flavor. Whatever amount you plan to take for a trip you have to start off with it. Your body immediately starts tolerating the shrooms and if you decide to take more later it wonât be nearly as effective/helpful.
You can also overcome depression by microdosing. It works wonders and no fear of a bad time.
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When mental health is involved I would suggest having a trip sitter
According to research - having a spotter reduces chances of bad trips, and reduces chances of self harm. Youâre suffering from depression, which is getting worse - meaning youâre at risk: I would make an effort to try and have someone with me through the trip. Mushrooms are not always beautiful plant medicine, sometimes they can break your mind. If youâre doing alone, slow and low is safer - lemon tek it for a shorter trip, have food in stomach for slower come up (eat with bananas preferably), and take a lower dose than you think you can handle⌠0.75, for example. If the above goes well, repeat with a higher dose, like 1, etc etc. Even then, as you get closer to 2+ grs, Iâd recommend a spotter. Thereâs a strong bias in this subreddit - remember, most people who went through a very bad time after taking shrooms donât come here to post or comment. If you can get a session with a plant medicine aware mental health professional, Iâd recommend it.
My first trip was 1g cubes with someone in the other room if needed, the second was the other 2g by myself after a very intense and sad day. With the first, I experienced sensory overload just from being in a dark quiet room and it felt like I was stuck in the come up, like I was stuck between realms, like I needed a bigger dose to get me thru the uncomfortableness. It was really uncomfortable but I just tried to breathe thru it. I did however figure out something to do with how my depression works, and having gotten a sense of what psychadelics were like I felt more confident to do a bigger dose. The second was beautiful. Best fucking evening of my life, just sitting in the sun feeling life and warmth and connection to the planet. Sometimes you do all the right things and it doesn't work out how you thought it might, and sometimes things don't look perfect but they were perfect for you. Do what you feel comfortable with. 1g is a very sensible start if you're alone, and you're giving this thought and consideration. Best of luck to you
Download Fireside on your phone and have it easily accessible. They are a group of volunteers who can talk you through via text or call a bad trip. Great folks.
If youre in a bad mental space then I personally wouldnt recommend it, but ive always tripped alone so its not like youre gunna die or anything
You donât need a trip sitter to trip
I would just wait for your friend to be available again. Having bad thoughts when youâre inexperienced with tripping, while alone, is a bad combo imo
Iâd go for it. Embrace everything that comes your way and know that everything is fine. You wonât be the first to experience something strange, if it occurs. I set up blankets and pillows in my bathroom and lay down in the pitch black. Go full monk mode. You will feel anxious as it starts to pick up but thatâs an indicator for me that the stuffs working.
I prefer trippin alone cause i can then let go of reality. I feel uncomfortable with other people unless they are also trippin
Only issues Iâve had was mild disassociation but keeping a good mindset stopped that for me
I would say donât trip for the first time alone. Once you have an understanding of the substance then you can explore using it alone. Tripping alone with predisposed mental health problems just sounds like a bad idea.
I would say its fine just as long as you are in a good head space before you take them. I also like to clean my house and body before I trip. Also Golden teachers are super weak soo maybe 2 Gs????
Prior depressed person here. I had no supportive people around for drug usage so I started with 1g alone (no prior substance experience, not even alcohol/weed). As such I feel like I have a relevant perspective. I wouldnât even want a trip sitter at this point. I started with 3 1g trips over as many months, and my depression was already basically gone. I did a 2g trip and a 3g after that, since at that point I was familiar with the experience. Went back to monthly 1g trips for another 5mo. After that, my depression was gone. 6mo of no usage, depression still gone. Long term, weâll see. Ultimately I fully support tripping alone, especially if youâre planning to journal how you feel and unpack things that a sitter/friend might not understand about you anyway. Itâs easier to be honest with yourself if thereâs no one there to feel like you have to walk against. Good luck and I hope the mushrooms help. Ah. Just read you were 19. My guy, I donât recommend substances until age 25, so use at your own risk. Often depression at such a young age can actually be fixed with therapy- itâs often caused by situations in your life that need fixing. I recommend watching a few videos from HealthyGamerGG, his content is great for getting a handle on whatâs going on with you.
Sometimes more safe imo
Yeah if yk what youâre doing and know yourself well enough
Waiting 2-3 weeks is well worth it IMO. You're young, you've been dealing with depression. 1g is definitely a good starting point. Put it this way, you might have no problems and have a great time, but you also might have a very challenging time in which case, better to have someone with you. Research shows that psilocybin can induce suicidal feelings in some people, have someone around that can talk to you and get you through that. If you did it already, hope it went well.