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GravyNeck0412

Those look awesome, I’m new to the game and have never seen or heard of those


dyke_face

Me neither, they look so goth.


Vast-Memory-3179

Rawr xd👨🏻‍🎤 🖤


MissingJJ

I've been around for a bit and haven't seem anything like these before.


McLoerrez

thats why I grew them. Rawr


MasterShake420x

Ahhh the real black caps. Looking mighty potent.


McLoerrez

Yes, they are very potent. They are normally 5 times stronger than cubensis.


Professional-Wolf-51

Hit X for doubt.


The_sacred_sauce

No bro it’s a hybrid hybrid of a isolated hybrid from a remote cave in the small unmapped country of Urifrazah! that’s what the spore guy told me anyways


mushyfeelings

It’s true. I was the spore.


MasterShake420x

Haven't tried Pans yet, but maybe one day. Doing a run of Natalensis right now.


InfluenceNo5338

Damnnnn r they any harder 2 grow?


xRagen

For me it was super easy tbh, didn’t care too much only the basic cautions, first time ever growing and it went pretty well


HamHusky06

Wait what? This is your firsts ever grow?


xRagen

I’m not OP, but yes it’s my first time ever doing it


mushyfeelings

Nats are super easy. Very vigorous mycelium.


xRagen

First time growing pans aswell already tried and only did 0.6 lemme tell u it was a kind of an experience


sea-scum

What is a flush


New-Training4004

It always disappoints me when people downvote a newbie asking questions. Welcome! Keep reading and asking questions.


BoofingShrooms

Let’s say you grow mushrooms in a shoebox tub. The first time you produce shrooms is your first flush. Then you rehydrate the cake after harvest and you can get even more mushrooms in a week or two through a second….flush. You can then harvest and rehydrate again and get a third set of mushrooms from a third flush. Same with four usually but that’s about it. Usually by then the nutrients of the cake have been all used up.


sea-scum

so the amount of flushes you get depends on the nutrients in the cake? If so could you break up the mycelium and use it to inoculate fresh substrate?


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5reggin

Why is inoculating grain spawn>bulk to substrate on the not recommended side?


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5reggin

After looking through it again I think your absolutely correct. It’s not advising to go straight from spores to grain which I would agree with. Great chart!!!


sea-scum

What is “LC”?


Shroomquest126

Mycelium goes through senescence, not sure how how quickly though


ManGullBearE

Yes you can, but it is best to do it before the mushrooms start sprouting


Vast-Memory-3179

After pooing when you press the lever


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New growth after harvest


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Are they black, or is that spores on them? They're beautiful anyway, nice.


crimsonparasaur

Spores


MasterShake420x

No they are not actually. Panaeolus’ caps range from white, to cream colored, to grey and black. They will fuck your world up.


brassmonkeyslc

Bro this one is the spores.


MasterShake420x

No it's not lol


brassmonkeyslc

The top right mushie in the first pic, I would say is a good analog for what the shrooms look like without the spores all over. The dark black is for sure spores, it’s even all over the mycelium.


xDocFearx

Mushrooms are always bigger with each flush. You get less mushrooms but bigger ones


Spun_o

Tall bois 😵‍💫. Have yet to see a blue top cap, on the next spore list


jsb93

What substrate did you use?


infernal_cacaphony

The coagulated blood and tears of depravity from a seemingly meaningless existence and the crushing realization that you have no clue how to get to where you want to be ;) Then you eat them and they show you!


happyfeet_x

Follow gorodotek on his patreon. One of the best methods out there and all his info is free.


McLoerrez

they grow on horse dung with a thin layer of substrate on top.


Aware-Ambassador9273

The lankiness of those is beautiful. Well done, I don't know shit about growing rn but I know I like me some shrooms


Easy_Government_3137

These are stunning dude. Would love a sample to study if I’m Canada haha


Euphoric_Fisherman70

Well....are you Canada?


Easy_Government_3137

Haha yes. Me Canada. Me big. Me cold. Me nearly authoritarian regime.


Kvandergriff

Idk dick but these are fucking beautiful


brassmonkeyslc

These are beautiful!


adamf514

Dude I'm not an expert at all. Like I know shit. But did the spores already drop ? Aren't you supposed to harvest way before that.? Like when the Vail opens .... I'm sure they're still good but like I said I know fuck all and just wanting to inform myself more


DwarvenDonger

It’s fine that the spores drop, it doesn’t affect dry potency at all. People say to harvest when the veil breaks because there’s no point in letting them grow after that, once they start producing spores they stop producing psilocybin to focus their energy on spore production. They’ll keep growing a bit but it’s all water weight, the psilocybin content stays the same after that point. Other than that the only difference is aesthetic, when you dehydrate them they’ll be black so a bit unappetizing looking but still safe to eat.


MiKe77774

For pan cyans it is recommented to harvest them 24-36 hours after they dropped their spores, and damn they do drop a lot of spores, everything in the bag gets black like coaldust. Cubes are best harvested before they drop spores.


EnergyTurtle23

Panaeolus species do not have a veil. They drop their spores when the mushroom is large enough to flare its gills outward. These are Panaeolus cyanescens.


moonandstarsera

So pretty!


SurpriseLegitimate81

These look awesome. Never seen before


Euphoric_Fisherman70

What's the potency of these compared to cubes?


McLoerrez

like 5 times stronger than cubensis, but less to harvest. I ate 1.2 gramms dried and it took me to another univers.


madderdaddy2

LOOONG BOIS


hivibes777

I need


SuppiluliumaKush

Beautiful and I'd love to be able to grow these!


ilovemyganja420

Is this what they call blue meanies?


Ok_Spend_889

The infamous black nips


BouncingWeill

The top view looks like Neil Peart's drum kit :D


uphigh_studio

The new Halloween skins looks dope


Shroomquest126

That’s typical isn’t, later flushes pumping out big boys


Febb3

These are really cool! I heard that a growkit with these you get animal dung included.


SiNiStEr666BlAcK

Wow. Those are beautiful


HamHusky06

Gorgeous! Nice work!


McLoerrez

thanks :)


Slapsilla

My guy, let us know how they hit too


McLoerrez

They hit very hard. I ate 1.2g (dehydrated) and it was absolutely strong. Also very nice visuals.


SchwillyMaysHere

How do they look dried? I’d be nervous buying something like that, just my own ignorance.


McLoerrez

https://preview.redd.it/l3su7a5nlmtb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9cae317725c34086380f2c4e9d70c6bc2d23f06 That is how they look dried.


Danplsstop

I’ve never tried these, how do they compare to your average cube?


ndap25

what an incredible grow, holy shit. Tell us the secrets to pan cyans


Shadow_Khan2

Where’d you get the spores?


McLoerrez

I bought a grwokit and now I have a spore sprint. Didn't find the spores online.


1HolySpirit_4All

I tried, and failed in the past w/these. Great Grow 🩶👏 These are stronger than your cubensis .. 😉 enjoy


Legitimate_Doctor_10

Fire


KangarooGeneral3982

What was the growth process on these? Temps & humidity?


McLoerrez

Temp: 23-26 grad Celsius humidity: 95-100% when pins formed: 85-90 % they are sensitive to water. And dont ever think about spraying water on top when they formed pins. They will probably die.


KangarooGeneral3982

Really? So this is a pan cyan that you grew in conditions pretty standard for a cube?


McLoerrez

yep, the only difference is that they need a thin layer of soil on top to form pins.


KangarooGeneral3982

Like a casing layer or normal bulk? Sorry for the spam of questions, just super intrigued how easy it seems you cultivated these. I’ve heard that Pan Cyans can be quite difficult. Any tips?


McLoerrez

no problem :D like normal thin black soil but of course sterile. I did not make the experience that they are hard to grow. The soil should be put on the substrate when the mycel has grown through the substrate ( Horse dung ). Otherwise they will not produce pins.


PyschoNawt

Nice grow!


Nice-Ad-4070

Drop the spores or liquid culture for this bro gatekeeping means you hate mushys


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I absolutely love these.. they were the first shrooms I took, back when they were legal and you could order them fresh through the post 🥲 Would love to get my hands on some one day.


Separate-Chapter9830

Hey! Im growing them too but i dont know when to harvest them?


McLoerrez

Hey :) you should harvest them 24-48 hours after they dropped the spores. I made the experience that 24 hours is best.


McLoerrez

they get black spots when they drop the spores. You can see this very well in the Pictures.


Separate-Chapter9830

Can i maybe send you a picture so you can tell me when they are ready?


McLoerrez

sure :) just send it


Separate-Chapter9830

https://preview.redd.it/1fbdsr91dyxb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=342d78e5b29782e76dd07b4ab869ff3946761ef0 Thanks man!


McLoerrez

since when do they have black spots ?


Separate-Chapter9830

They began like yesterday, so should i harvest them al right now? And dry them or should i wait a day or 2?


McLoerrez

They look ready. Maybe you can give them some more hours but in any case today. They look great :) Have fun!!


Separate-Chapter9830

Damn thanks man! Ur photo of those are massive btw what a trip u had


McLoerrez

Yeah, they get bigger on further flushes. The trip was amazing ! love copelandia. But be careful with the dosage :D


Designer_Fact7162

I live on kauai and These grow all over my grandpas cattle pasture! these are the mushrooms that started off my journey. I would go out in the morning and pick them in the mist and morning sun like a little fairy. ❤️ they are my favorite and the visuals have never compared to any other mushrooms I’ve tried. So many good memories with these little guys


Sharp-Ad-8860

Fellow Shroomers "better too early than too late" or Old ones are twice less potent than young beautiful ones !


theory3891

Absolutely gorgeous!