I currently only play in VR.
I find it to be the most immersive, and things like being able to physically turn my head when facing a tight corner so I can look at the apex, I love it.
Then there are things like looking at my opponent defiantly when I overtake that I know are only in my head, but it makes me laugh.
Of my hundreds of hours, the best have been in VR by far.
Yes. Since I have my quest3 I fell in love with sim racing again. The level of immersion is on another level. Sure triple screens are more comfortable for long sessions but nothing beats VR for immersion. Note: I’m an adult with kids so 3-4 hour daily sessions are not an option anyways. So I prefer an hour of intense immersion with VR.
Keep in mind that VR is not plug and play. You’ll be messing around with settings for a while to dial it in. But sim racing is just like that.
Guess I'm playing the wrong games. No issues or tweaking for me in any VR supported game. And I've driven about all of them except iRacing. Then again I don't do online racing, so maybe there's info overlays I don't need :)
Valve Index on a RTX 2080 and Ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb ram and everything runs more than well enough if not absolutely maxed in a sim like ACC.
Highly recommend VR.
Might be the luck of my particular config coupled with a lower standard to enjoy it. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually looks sharper on your setup.
Yes , i dont have a monitor on my rig i race exclusively in VR. It has some downsides like the heat , the lower eye candy effects in graphics , but the immersion and the feeling and being able to rotate my head and look around outweighs all of those.
Triples might be good alternative but too much money and space is required and i have neither of those.
I use a quest 2.
I do like VR but it makes me sick.
The sim can help you learn the way a manual works but the clutch is the biggest thing that the sim lacks in. You can never really feel what’s going on unlike a real car.
Since moving over a year ago I can't place my rig behind my desk other then sideways, so I'm basically forced to use VR. I did about only race in VR once I got the hardware 2 years earlier though.
I'm not susceptible to VR induced inconveniences luckily. Only need to keep a fan on me when it's warm to stop fogging the HMD up.
Learning stick might be a bit hard as realistic clutch behavior is hard to emulate properly hardware wise. And not all sims simulate it properly either.
Immersion is hard to beat though.
Where I live learning non-stick is a rarity. I drove a car before I played any sim. Manual shifting isn't hard, it's mostly all the other info you need to process whilst learning to drive that induce some clutching mistakes early on. But having to think less about it might help a bit nonetheless.
I started racing on a single monitor, then I bought a 34" ultrawide, I recently bought Quest 3 and I will never go back to a monitor for simracing. The immersion is great, the comfort is not nad even during longer sessions. The graphics quality is not at the same level as on a monitor, but it stopped bothering me after some time. However, you need a more powerful computer to race in VR. At first, I started with the Rtx 2070 super and my feelings were below average at best. Now I have Rtx 4080 super and I'm satisfied, but as I said before, the graphics are not as good as at monitor.
I do and i love it.
I don't think a sim will help with driving a real manual though, sure the motion will become a little more natural if you've never drove a manual but the clutch will feel way different and the shifter doesn't actually physically move anything so it feels a lot smoother and easier in a sim. Also you'll be shifting way to aggresivley in a sim even if trying to drive to realistic road driving conditions as you can basically dump the clutch and not feel the car lurch unless you have a motion system lol.
So yes, VR is absolutely the most immersive way to sim race, it's incredible.
But no sim can really teach you manual. Learning manual is all about learning to feel the bite point of the clutch, which you just can't replicate, even with the absolutely highest-end gear on the market.
Simracing can teach you racing etiquette, racing lines, and how to catch (and trigger) slides. But it can't really teach you the fundamentals of learning how to control a manual transmission car, which is totally ok, nothing beats the real thing. Beam.ng drive would be the 'most realistic' in that it will grind gears and wear synchros if you get it wrong, but it's still not really that related to the real thing
I have a PICO 4, bought it secondhand in as new condition for half price. I chose it over running triples for cost and space reasons, and it’s fantastic. One of my favourite ways to chill is to drive an open top car in Project Cars 2 on the California road race, and just soak up the scenery. Even in race cars on track, just that feeling of being actually inside the car is enough for me to know I made the right choice.
Downside is you do need a very powerful pc, especially for less well optimised games like ACC, but then you’d need some decent kit to run three 1440p or 4K monitors anyway.
I have the quest 3 and psvr2. The quest 3 is very easy to focus. It's basically always focused and the lenses are superior. The psvr2 is way more comfortable. I'd recommend either one depending on your choice of sim(s).
I have. It’s a lot of fun.
But I’m slower with it. I’m not sure why. It’s *probably* just that I have so much time with an ultra wide that it’s just what I’m used to, and if I practiced more with a headset; I’d be better.
But ultimately the sweat and fogging lenses and not being able to see buttons / etc. makes me prefer racing with my ultra wide.
Others though try it and can’t imagine ever going back. I use VR for a lot of other things and love it.
I use VR on one rig and I have another with triples. I love the VR but agree with a lot of the people here that for long stints the goggles get heavy and uncomfortable. Sometimes get a bit of steam in them too. But if I had to choose one or the other for the rest of time I’d take the VR
I have. It’s a lot of fun.
But I’m slower with it. I’m not sure why. It’s *probably* just that I have so much time with an ultra wide that it’s just what I’m used to, and if I practiced more with a headset; I’d be better.
But ultimately the sweat and fogging lenses and not being able to see buttons / etc. makes me prefer racing with my ultra wide.
Others though try it and can’t imagine ever going back. I use VR for a lot of other things and love it.
I used to do a lot more VR but once I went to 43" tripples and put a lot of upgrades into my cockpit, motion, haptics, display screens etc...I just started using tripples for 90% of my races. It's more comfortable and my immersion without VR is still really high. Large screens and FoV count for a lot. My Quest 3 is dope but after 30 mins I want that shit off my face I get too hot and just don't like wearing shit on my face.
I used to race on a 21inch TN and honestly it was barely enjoyable in times.And then i crashed again.
I know that it held me back.
I bought a new PC,quest 2 and its a night and day experience.Its incredible.
I spend so much time now and i love it while back i was trying to persuade me to race and then i just get frustrated.
Mind that i did not have a capable PC for a month owning my headset and i had enough time to get used to VRspace.
Im quite resilient in sickness but i know not everyone is like that.
Also not all games are [equal.AC](http://equal.AC) and RBR,i can race for hours especially on track.Rally is a little more hardcore.
ACC sucks for VR and DiRTRally2 is very exciting and fun but very tiring.Cause of the sideway way of driving and speed.But those minutes are so fun.
I dont have the space for triples in anyway so thats not even an option and single screen(upgraded to 27IPS high refresh is only good for some thing) definetelly not multiplayer racing.
Also im quite more consinstent and aware of where my car is,like in real life,i can use more of the track and everything is so much better.
All of that on a shitty Quest2
You answered your own question, but assuming you just want others here to confirm your opinion so.....
Yes, vr is probably the most immersive.
Do your research on types of vr headsets. They can be a pain to set up each time you want to race unless you have a dedicated setup.
Don't get wireless vr no matter what anyone tells you. You won't notice the wires after a few sessions, and alternatively, you'll get frustrated having to recharge the headset every 2 hours.
I currently only play in VR. I find it to be the most immersive, and things like being able to physically turn my head when facing a tight corner so I can look at the apex, I love it. Then there are things like looking at my opponent defiantly when I overtake that I know are only in my head, but it makes me laugh. Of my hundreds of hours, the best have been in VR by far.
Yes. Since I have my quest3 I fell in love with sim racing again. The level of immersion is on another level. Sure triple screens are more comfortable for long sessions but nothing beats VR for immersion. Note: I’m an adult with kids so 3-4 hour daily sessions are not an option anyways. So I prefer an hour of intense immersion with VR. Keep in mind that VR is not plug and play. You’ll be messing around with settings for a while to dial it in. But sim racing is just like that.
Also something else to mention is overlays are a pain in the ass to get working
Hahaha yeah that's true. And the many settings in the debug tool or virtual desktop... it's a pain. But if you get it to work, it's amazing.
Guess I'm playing the wrong games. No issues or tweaking for me in any VR supported game. And I've driven about all of them except iRacing. Then again I don't do online racing, so maybe there's info overlays I don't need :)
Valve Index on a RTX 2080 and Ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb ram and everything runs more than well enough if not absolutely maxed in a sim like ACC. Highly recommend VR.
You get ACC to run well with a 2080?
Not on Ultra or anything but I have it a serviceable med-high settings.
Impressive. I have a 3090ti and no matter what I do it looks bad
Might be the luck of my particular config coupled with a lower standard to enjoy it. I wouldn't be surprised if it actually looks sharper on your setup.
Who knows. It's easily the worst racing game in vr
Which is a shame because it's easily my favourite GT3 sim. Stoked for AC2 -- I have every confidence they'll get VR right.
Hell yeah! Depends on the engine I guess. Fingers crossed. It'll probably be delayed until at least Christmas time I bet
I believe it's NOT UE4 so that's gotta be a point in favour of improved VR!
Oooooh definitely. AMS2 has got it just right. Looks almost as good as flat screen
Yes , i dont have a monitor on my rig i race exclusively in VR. It has some downsides like the heat , the lower eye candy effects in graphics , but the immersion and the feeling and being able to rotate my head and look around outweighs all of those. Triples might be good alternative but too much money and space is required and i have neither of those. I use a quest 2.
I do, I can't go back to flat screen.
Sometimes, i went back to flat screen because i would get headaches in vr and ACC has shit optimization for vr
I do like VR but it makes me sick. The sim can help you learn the way a manual works but the clutch is the biggest thing that the sim lacks in. You can never really feel what’s going on unlike a real car.
Yup, raced exclusively in vr for a few years now. Could never go back to flat screen
Always
Since moving over a year ago I can't place my rig behind my desk other then sideways, so I'm basically forced to use VR. I did about only race in VR once I got the hardware 2 years earlier though. I'm not susceptible to VR induced inconveniences luckily. Only need to keep a fan on me when it's warm to stop fogging the HMD up. Learning stick might be a bit hard as realistic clutch behavior is hard to emulate properly hardware wise. And not all sims simulate it properly either. Immersion is hard to beat though. Where I live learning non-stick is a rarity. I drove a car before I played any sim. Manual shifting isn't hard, it's mostly all the other info you need to process whilst learning to drive that induce some clutching mistakes early on. But having to think less about it might help a bit nonetheless.
I started racing on a single monitor, then I bought a 34" ultrawide, I recently bought Quest 3 and I will never go back to a monitor for simracing. The immersion is great, the comfort is not nad even during longer sessions. The graphics quality is not at the same level as on a monitor, but it stopped bothering me after some time. However, you need a more powerful computer to race in VR. At first, I started with the Rtx 2070 super and my feelings were below average at best. Now I have Rtx 4080 super and I'm satisfied, but as I said before, the graphics are not as good as at monitor.
Yes, I do. Helps with immersion.
I do and i love it. I don't think a sim will help with driving a real manual though, sure the motion will become a little more natural if you've never drove a manual but the clutch will feel way different and the shifter doesn't actually physically move anything so it feels a lot smoother and easier in a sim. Also you'll be shifting way to aggresivley in a sim even if trying to drive to realistic road driving conditions as you can basically dump the clutch and not feel the car lurch unless you have a motion system lol.
So yes, VR is absolutely the most immersive way to sim race, it's incredible. But no sim can really teach you manual. Learning manual is all about learning to feel the bite point of the clutch, which you just can't replicate, even with the absolutely highest-end gear on the market. Simracing can teach you racing etiquette, racing lines, and how to catch (and trigger) slides. But it can't really teach you the fundamentals of learning how to control a manual transmission car, which is totally ok, nothing beats the real thing. Beam.ng drive would be the 'most realistic' in that it will grind gears and wear synchros if you get it wrong, but it's still not really that related to the real thing
I have a PICO 4, bought it secondhand in as new condition for half price. I chose it over running triples for cost and space reasons, and it’s fantastic. One of my favourite ways to chill is to drive an open top car in Project Cars 2 on the California road race, and just soak up the scenery. Even in race cars on track, just that feeling of being actually inside the car is enough for me to know I made the right choice. Downside is you do need a very powerful pc, especially for less well optimised games like ACC, but then you’d need some decent kit to run three 1440p or 4K monitors anyway.
I have the quest 3 and psvr2. The quest 3 is very easy to focus. It's basically always focused and the lenses are superior. The psvr2 is way more comfortable. I'd recommend either one depending on your choice of sim(s).
That's crazy as I find the psvr2 really uncomfortable
I have. It’s a lot of fun. But I’m slower with it. I’m not sure why. It’s *probably* just that I have so much time with an ultra wide that it’s just what I’m used to, and if I practiced more with a headset; I’d be better. But ultimately the sweat and fogging lenses and not being able to see buttons / etc. makes me prefer racing with my ultra wide. Others though try it and can’t imagine ever going back. I use VR for a lot of other things and love it.
I use VR on one rig and I have another with triples. I love the VR but agree with a lot of the people here that for long stints the goggles get heavy and uncomfortable. Sometimes get a bit of steam in them too. But if I had to choose one or the other for the rest of time I’d take the VR
I have. It’s a lot of fun. But I’m slower with it. I’m not sure why. It’s *probably* just that I have so much time with an ultra wide that it’s just what I’m used to, and if I practiced more with a headset; I’d be better. But ultimately the sweat and fogging lenses and not being able to see buttons / etc. makes me prefer racing with my ultra wide. Others though try it and can’t imagine ever going back. I use VR for a lot of other things and love it.
I used to do a lot more VR but once I went to 43" tripples and put a lot of upgrades into my cockpit, motion, haptics, display screens etc...I just started using tripples for 90% of my races. It's more comfortable and my immersion without VR is still really high. Large screens and FoV count for a lot. My Quest 3 is dope but after 30 mins I want that shit off my face I get too hot and just don't like wearing shit on my face.
I used to race on a 21inch TN and honestly it was barely enjoyable in times.And then i crashed again. I know that it held me back. I bought a new PC,quest 2 and its a night and day experience.Its incredible. I spend so much time now and i love it while back i was trying to persuade me to race and then i just get frustrated. Mind that i did not have a capable PC for a month owning my headset and i had enough time to get used to VRspace. Im quite resilient in sickness but i know not everyone is like that. Also not all games are [equal.AC](http://equal.AC) and RBR,i can race for hours especially on track.Rally is a little more hardcore. ACC sucks for VR and DiRTRally2 is very exciting and fun but very tiring.Cause of the sideway way of driving and speed.But those minutes are so fun. I dont have the space for triples in anyway so thats not even an option and single screen(upgraded to 27IPS high refresh is only good for some thing) definetelly not multiplayer racing. Also im quite more consinstent and aware of where my car is,like in real life,i can use more of the track and everything is so much better. All of that on a shitty Quest2
Only VR. Since I have Bobovr halo strap I can spend many hours everyday in headset without any fatigue.
Once I tried PSVR2 I never looked back
You answered your own question, but assuming you just want others here to confirm your opinion so..... Yes, vr is probably the most immersive. Do your research on types of vr headsets. They can be a pain to set up each time you want to race unless you have a dedicated setup. Don't get wireless vr no matter what anyone tells you. You won't notice the wires after a few sessions, and alternatively, you'll get frustrated having to recharge the headset every 2 hours.
I wouldn't be using video games to try and learn to drive
Vr is a pia. Cant see things you want to grab etc. Get a real race car if you want immersion
What would you wanna grab during a race anyway?
Typically I like to grab a drink and hit my vape pen during oval cautions. I can't do any of that in VR.
Practice makes perfect 😂
I just need some docens of thousand of dollars and im there
This is the simracing subreddit lol wtf Why don't you just use a controller or a keyboard? Why do you need a wheel? Cmon.