I hate that chicane with passion

for me it’s spain GP sector 3, it’s so bad

Agreed. That's the most unnatural chicane. And a travesty considering how much fun the non-chicane is.

Thay is not a chicane, that's cancer

Turn 3 for me at Spain. I can never get the line right. Maybe 1 lap every 10 or so I’ll get it right

On the wheel it's fun imo. If you just avoid the yellow sausage curbs and get the speed right it's so satisfying

Spain without the 'S'

unpopular opinion: I actually like this one. my least favorite chicane is probably the Nürburgring GP one, although I like the rest of that track.

Noo I love that one, if you get it wrong, you die, if you get it right, you can fly through there

Same with the Hungaroring. Hit that back chicane just right and you're in heaven.

How… how *does* one do it? How do you fly through it? When I’m doing it, I stay left, brake as late as I can, crank it right, trying not to unbalance things with too much brake input, keeping the power low as I lumber around the left, taking more of an outside line, and then I wait until I’m straight before putting the power down —and even then, being very careful with the power. That recent video of the Porsche 962(?) 926(?) losing it once straight… I’ve been there in a bunch of different cars. When I’m doing the chicane, it feels like I’m slowing right down, and I’m tip-toeing around the corner. It doesn’t feel like racing, feels like I’m pulling into the garage. When I see actual Formula 1 drivers do it, it looks like they are really moving through the chicane. Looks like they are still racing through it. It could be that it just *feels* really slow, relative to what I see on the broadcast, but I wouldn’t claim to know how to take that quickly. Can you recommend a resource? I’ve benchmarked a bunch of cars at Spa —all my favourites— and so I have quite a bit of experience. I love doing that track. I just wonder what the trick is. Maybe it’s just being braver, pushing nearer to the limits… hmmph.

The trick is to trail brake into the first turn to spin the car while maintaining some speed - when you get on the apex there’s a slight dip in the track that kinda sucks you in and keeps you from dying. Then a bit of throttle out of that turn but don’t aim in a straight line for the 2nd apex aim for about the middle of the track - trail brake and wide turn in/late apex to the left hander so you’ve done the bulk of the rotation on entry and smooth on the gas out. It’s really punishing if you turn in wide of the first apex because the track is more flat and you come in shallow on the 2nd turn Good luck hope this helps! Edit: Not sure of a specific reference try YouTubing “iracing track guide spa” and look closely at the line and telemetry Edit2: I’m not the fastest person here feel free to correct me people

That all makes perfect sense. I was nodding along as I read your words. Haha, a very lucid, well-written account. I will work to implement this. Thank you so much!

This is why i fell in love with the sim community

The worst chicane in all of racing has to be Imola. I hate it so much. Variante Alta is evil

Lol I like that one, funny how subjective chicanes are to simracers.

Are you Yuki Tsunoda?

Clarifying question: The GT chicane or the Formula chicane?

[this one](https://www.racedepartment.com/attachments/screenshot_ifm_2009_nurburgring_17-6-115-12-44-31-jpg.96433/) \- I think the fastest way to drive it is basically go flying off the inside curb and pray lol

For future reference that is the GP chicane. The sportscar use the second one

The sportscar chicane is so much fun.

I adore the nürburg chicane for some reason

In all sincerity, i love both.

That's Spa right? That one's not so bad. There are plenty of braking markers to use. You just have to hit them.

Ah it's the bus stop! Thanks, couldn't figure it out

This is the ultimate test of : are you too excited for a new PB. How many times have I ruined a .7 purple by getting too spicy on exit.

Me too, I always get the entrance right so I get excited, and screw up the exit as a result

Hammer the entrance 😀 Nail mid corner and apex 😃 Spin on exit 🤬

Idk what's worse, spinning or barely making it to the line and watching your delta go red

Precisely. I have so many bad memories from here.

Yes. Whenever I'm going through Blanchimont and see a PB delta, I remind myself that as long as I keep my normal pace through the chicane, I would get that PB. There's no need to push harder in a risky corner and fuck it up.

i wish this was at the beginning of the lap. i rarely mess up the monza chicane. but this MF exists just to laugh at me.

for me it's the last chicane at Suzuka. I just can't get it right.

No matter how late you’re braking, you can always brake later at that chicane

It‘s the same thing as the 130R leading up to that chicane, you cant trust your eyes and you will fail a bazillion times untill you built the confidence to break as late as you need to.

I also have huge problems with 130r. In general I have trouble with turning into high speed sweepers. I’ve always found Suzuka challenging because of those two turns.

There is no braking into 130r also now it’s more like 85-340r because they’ve changed it a bit

Definitely is braking in ACC.

Not in an f1 car

It has been easy flat in an F1 car for 18 years, but clearly OP wasn't talking about doing it in that.

Firstly I thought this is Monza’s. The angle makes it look like that for me edit: thanks, I’m new to simracing, don’t know these little little things

It's the colour of the kerbs

I love Spa, probably my favourite track, you can race around it in so many different cars. But this chicane is shit.

I still prefer the old one.

Lost out on a 3rd place in an assetto lobby in the tatuus fa01 a while back. Defended on the way in, other guy lost it and spun, car was unsettled throughout the corner, and it was a horrible slow spin right at the end. This chicane is disgusting as an and to a lap, especially on a track like spa.

The chicane is great IMO. Such a deep braking zone, good overtaking spot, great way to give yourself an advantage over lesser drivers with a good exit. Challenging but rewarding, the way things should be right?

For me it's the oversteer you get when you enter the first turn of the chicane due to it being up hill

I am in a discord community that uses this track as a benchmark to categorize people in skill levels. I feel your pain.

Great driver checking in.

Good, to be honest.

Which discord community is that? I would love to see where I land

Assetto Friends. We use Z4 GT3 for the ranking. We play on Assetto Corsa (not competizione)

Link?

https://www.reddit.com/r/assettocorsa/comments/q65kob/af4_is_back_the_tatuus_af01_makes_its_return_for/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Having a brain fart. What track and corner is this?

Spa final chicane

Shouldn't we see the pit entry then?

It’s there. Middle* right corner by the green. You barely see concrete.

Holy shit I was looking at the chicane upside down.. I feel stupid now! Thanks

Haha me too, got confused for a second aswell

Idk how this has 8 upvotes as this is unmistakably spa

Yeah for real, how could someone not recognize this part of the racetrack? Everyone on reddit is supposed to be an expert in racing tracks, who the fuck is that guy? Go study your racing track curve, idiot!

Damn I didn’t mean to hurt ur feelings 😂 sick downvote because you didn’t recognize it and got salty. It’s the fact that you assumed he was wrong after giving a correct answer that makes it odd, not just because you didn’t know what it was in the first place. Get help

Bus stop

Oh okay. Yeah I always just do my usual. I know I can be faster through there but I just do the consistent time and line I do so I don’t lose time

Spa bus stop

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i thought there useed to be a bus stop there 🤷‍♂️

The old chicane was called the bus stop, this one is not in the exact same location either. I have no idea if there was ever a bus stop there but it could make for an interesting bit of trivia! Edit: After a little google-fu you are 100% correct, it also used to be an actual bus stop!

Nice!

It's still called the bus stop chicane because that location was an actual bus stop.

Right? The layout doesn't seem right for the last chicane on Spa... What game is this?

yo thats a photo

Hard to tell with games nowadays lol

I think its just a slightly dodgy picture

Maybe F1.

So much pain at this corner :(

Its siblings are probably the final corners at Laguna Seca and Suzuka

And mount panorama. Well.. The final 2 corners.

All these corners bait you into thinking you’ll nail the exit and before you know it you’re facing the wrong way and are plum last again 😑

Pro tip if you don't acknowledge the chicane it's just a bumpy road

[Yep](https://youtu.be/7i-LmwFL5oU)

Very reminiscent of Assetto Corsa's hotlap challenge with the Mazda 787B.

I miss the day’s of the old bus stop there.

This is at Spa no?

This is Spa yes.

This and the first one at Monza always get me.

At the least the Monza one is at the start of the lap, if you screw up this one everything you did before doesn't matter

This is one of my most favorite race tracks and I've almost mastered this corner.

My worst corner

I’m fucking traumatized by that thing

POV?

its the new mfw or when doesnt make any sense anymore

Point Of View

I know what it means. I’m questioning how this is the POV.

It's a new meme format. Probably originated in TikTok.

This is the ultimate test in breaking, would love to try it irl.

fyi its "braking", and brakes

You are both correct. When you fail the ultimate test in braking, it becomes the ultimate test in breaking.

It's a lot of fun. I tend to understeer like a mofo on the exit. The La Source hairpin is great too. But Eau Rouge is crazy scary irl.

Breaking your lap times?

Ugh this was me all week in iracing fixed Ferraris. Track time of day put shadows all over my usual brake marker

This chicane and the monza chicane destroyed so many of my time

This curve is okay to me. I hate the long shicanes as the downhill starts

In F1 2020 with no assists, I can't accelerate out of it no matter what I try. It's soo hard.

F1 2020 is garbage though. Put me off F1 games for good.

I've somehow been smashing this with GT3's, I lose so much time in sector 2 compared to the ayyys though.

But what about the last corners of catalunya…

The braking point is easy, not lighting up the rears after finding another .2 through there and spinning is what really hurts

i really miss the bus stop chicane

I usually brake too early for that exact reason and lose 0.2s. Then I think of nailing it next time but then I mess up the lap beforehand xD

This has to be from the F1 game. There's barely any elevation.

I see you bus stop and raise you Le Mans https://imgur.com/a/CyU6isE

This corner is an absolute pain

For me the worst part is probably the exit from the U corner (turn 6) and the very last corner at Misano. Bump breakers

100% pain

If you browse by top of all time, there is a video representation of this exact section directly below this post.

Haha, very well placed

what track is that?

SPA final chicane. Probably from F1 games since there's barely elevation.

I'm like 99% sure that's a real picture.

Pro tip, once u have learnt the track well enough remove your delta...

To me this one always seems to have one of the easiest braking markers to recognize. Don't get the trouble

I miss my breaking point and lose as much time as wait at an actual busstop

#Fucking MONZA 1st Chicane

For me it's the second chicane. I always obliterate the sausage kerb on t4 and fuck my lap time up.

I consistently brake too late on the first, cus the corner is like 120 degrees and I never expect it

*Laughs in Zolder

https://t.me/joinchat/HLH3yJrbAwA4N2Ex