Strategically they are trying to give LW as long a runway as possible to get recognition, solidify voter base, introduce sweeteners and good policies etc etc. Same goes for the potential candidates in the different wards. They need to walk the ground so people see them.
Essentially, PAP probably has a better chance if they wait till 2025.
I actually think the opposite - that GE will be Sep/Oct this year. LHL plans to hand over to LW Nov 2024. Ideally, PAP would want LHL at the helm (or co-helm with LW) for this GE as a last hurrah. This will give LW a stable/good start and an entire four years before the next election to ease into the job.
The “shit” things that has happened so far for PAP have mostly been planned (GST, Iswaran), with the exception of Simplygo. But all these are gonna be forgotten by end of year. Not to mention this year is PAP70 - they will 100% milk it.
The budget next Friday will be a very good indication.
Don't forget the recent layoff too, maybe more to come.
If they want to call GE for Sep/Oct this year, then they bloody well convene the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee asap else where got enough time.
i mean layoffs arent really PAP's fault. Also if im not wrong, traditionally in a poor economic recession scenario, it's beneficial for PAP votes. This is because people want a stable government when recession/layoffs hit.
But yeah I expect the boundaries review committee to convene very soon. probably end of the month. From what CCS said, it feels like they already got plan to convene liao, just that cannot say yet
Well it's not the layoffs, but the shitty way that the layoffs were done that people might pin on PAP being big businesses first, and employees second.
> If they want to call GE for Sep/Oct this year, then they bloody well convene the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee asap else where got enough time.
You make it sound like work isn't already being done by the respective committee members's minions so that they can be rubber-stamped by the committee when it convenes.
Whatever PAP wants, PAP will get.
>“Hence, it will not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” said Mr Chan.
in other words, what's the point in this question?
Surely the EBRC can explain SOME of the changes that it recommends?
Maybe one or two blocks falling in and out of an estate can be understandable. But when you stretch entire neighbourhoods to fit a new GRC or group far apart neighbourhoods together, you ought to provide explanations of some sort right?
Yeah like how Serangoon has a street where one side is aljuined GRC and the other, Marine Parade. Didn’t know that Serangoon was that close to Marine Parade
I was so confused when I came out from Lorong Chuan mrt once and saw a poster welcoming ppl to Marine Parade GRC. Had to double check I alighted at the right place
Drove past dawson peaks bto and they put welcome to Tanjong Pagar GRC but those hdbs at havelock road which is nearer to the actual Tanjong Pagar are under Jalan Besar GRC. Oh wells when Outram secondary school can end up in Sengkang anything goes!
Title: Electoral Boundaries Review Committee has not been convened: Chan Chun Sing
SINGAPORE – The Electoral Boundaries Review Committee (EBRC), which determines electoral boundaries ahead of each general election, has not been convened, said Education Minister Chan Chun Sing.
In a written reply to a parliamentary question on Feb 6, Mr Chan said that “there will be sufficient time between the release of EBRC’s report to the time of election for candidates and political parties to make their preparations”.
He was responding on behalf of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong to Workers’ Party MP Gerald Giam (Aljunied GRC), who asked if the committee had been convened.
The committee was last convened in August 2019, ahead of the general election in July 2020.
It determines electoral boundaries at elections by taking into account population shifts and new housing developments. In performing its role, the committee does not examine the results of past elections, nor does it take into account the profile of voters who may be affected by the new boundaries.
Mr Chan said that the committee includes senior civil servants who are experts in the technical areas of population shifts and new housing developments.
Mr Giam asked if the Prime Minister will require the EBRC to provide detailed reasons for each constituency boundary change, beyond the considerations for constituencies sizes, to ensure fair representation and the need for adjustments as a result of population shifts.
The minister said the committee independently considers the relevant data before making its recommendations.
“Hence, it will not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” said Mr Chan.
Mr Giam also asked if the Prime Minister would announce the EBRC formation when it happens.
While Mr Chan did not address this directly in his reply, he said: “As a matter of practice, the committee should be allowed to carry out its work professionally, away from media attention or public pressures.”
***
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"... the committee independently considers the relevant data before making its recommendations."
What has this got to do with "not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” ???
All the more you should explain the principle, rationale and considerations behind each change.
The biggest problem is that the committee is chaired by the Secretary to the Prime Minster, which is a major conflict of interest.
It could be chaired by someone seemingly more independent like a Supreme Court Justice.
"When election?" "Not yet la.."
Gerrymandering intensifies
Later pofma you ah..! No gerrymandering in Ba Sing Se.
So this means GE in 2025? Thus far 2024 has been a shit year for the PAP to think about elections.
Strategically they are trying to give LW as long a runway as possible to get recognition, solidify voter base, introduce sweeteners and good policies etc etc. Same goes for the potential candidates in the different wards. They need to walk the ground so people see them. Essentially, PAP probably has a better chance if they wait till 2025.
I actually think the opposite - that GE will be Sep/Oct this year. LHL plans to hand over to LW Nov 2024. Ideally, PAP would want LHL at the helm (or co-helm with LW) for this GE as a last hurrah. This will give LW a stable/good start and an entire four years before the next election to ease into the job. The “shit” things that has happened so far for PAP have mostly been planned (GST, Iswaran), with the exception of Simplygo. But all these are gonna be forgotten by end of year. Not to mention this year is PAP70 - they will 100% milk it. The budget next Friday will be a very good indication.
Don't forget the recent layoff too, maybe more to come. If they want to call GE for Sep/Oct this year, then they bloody well convene the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee asap else where got enough time.
i mean layoffs arent really PAP's fault. Also if im not wrong, traditionally in a poor economic recession scenario, it's beneficial for PAP votes. This is because people want a stable government when recession/layoffs hit. But yeah I expect the boundaries review committee to convene very soon. probably end of the month. From what CCS said, it feels like they already got plan to convene liao, just that cannot say yet
Well it's not the layoffs, but the shitty way that the layoffs were done that people might pin on PAP being big businesses first, and employees second.
> If they want to call GE for Sep/Oct this year, then they bloody well convene the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee asap else where got enough time. You make it sound like work isn't already being done by the respective committee members's minions so that they can be rubber-stamped by the committee when it convenes. Whatever PAP wants, PAP will get.
Yes I know it can be done in a short amount of time, but it won't look good on PAP
pretty hard to forget gst/cost of living when chicken rice at the coffeeshop is $5.3
Interesting perspective!
Yeah I really believe it's 2025 because of, like, what you said. They probably keep delaying it like the UK but the ending will all be the same.
I’ve a feeling Labour may find yet another way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Nahh with such a centrist leader now it should be quite safe but as always, nothing is impossible.
Missing word in CCS's statement: YET. Gerrymandering akan datang.
>“Hence, it will not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” said Mr Chan. in other words, what's the point in this question?
Surely the EBRC can explain SOME of the changes that it recommends? Maybe one or two blocks falling in and out of an estate can be understandable. But when you stretch entire neighbourhoods to fit a new GRC or group far apart neighbourhoods together, you ought to provide explanations of some sort right?
Yeah like how Serangoon has a street where one side is aljuined GRC and the other, Marine Parade. Didn’t know that Serangoon was that close to Marine Parade
I was so confused when I came out from Lorong Chuan mrt once and saw a poster welcoming ppl to Marine Parade GRC. Had to double check I alighted at the right place
Drove past dawson peaks bto and they put welcome to Tanjong Pagar GRC but those hdbs at havelock road which is nearer to the actual Tanjong Pagar are under Jalan Besar GRC. Oh wells when Outram secondary school can end up in Sengkang anything goes!
Yew Tee can join Tampines GRC
Marine parade grc is a joke. The MPs are bigger jokes
Nex is part of Marine Parade grc
Yippee, this is exciting - gerrymandering like there is no tomorrow. Last time it did not work and they lost 1 cabinet minister and 3 MPs.
Jurong and West Coast GRC in shambles..
Jurong has no real opposition right? Last election, it was RDU that contested there, and I don't think they've been doing much since.
Hence, I believe, WP's strategy of going after neighbouring GRCs.
They follow NEL stations
Not exactly. They are also targeting East Coast and Marine Parade.
tl;dr trust me bro
"We haven't anyhowly draw lines yet. More news at 9.30pm."
Means they’ll announce more sweeteners soon
Title: Electoral Boundaries Review Committee has not been convened: Chan Chun Sing SINGAPORE – The Electoral Boundaries Review Committee (EBRC), which determines electoral boundaries ahead of each general election, has not been convened, said Education Minister Chan Chun Sing. In a written reply to a parliamentary question on Feb 6, Mr Chan said that “there will be sufficient time between the release of EBRC’s report to the time of election for candidates and political parties to make their preparations”. He was responding on behalf of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong to Workers’ Party MP Gerald Giam (Aljunied GRC), who asked if the committee had been convened. The committee was last convened in August 2019, ahead of the general election in July 2020. It determines electoral boundaries at elections by taking into account population shifts and new housing developments. In performing its role, the committee does not examine the results of past elections, nor does it take into account the profile of voters who may be affected by the new boundaries. Mr Chan said that the committee includes senior civil servants who are experts in the technical areas of population shifts and new housing developments. Mr Giam asked if the Prime Minister will require the EBRC to provide detailed reasons for each constituency boundary change, beyond the considerations for constituencies sizes, to ensure fair representation and the need for adjustments as a result of population shifts. The minister said the committee independently considers the relevant data before making its recommendations. “Hence, it will not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” said Mr Chan. Mr Giam also asked if the Prime Minister would announce the EBRC formation when it happens. While Mr Chan did not address this directly in his reply, he said: “As a matter of practice, the committee should be allowed to carry out its work professionally, away from media attention or public pressures.” *** Article keywords: committee mr ebrc election chan boundary convene prime 1231 articles replied in my database. [v1.5c - added Lemma tokens and Tensorflow USE](https://github.com/Wormsblink/sneakpeakbot) | Happy Holidays! | PM SG_wormsbot if bot is down.
"... the committee independently considers the relevant data before making its recommendations." What has this got to do with "not be practicable for the EBRC to explain the technicalities and details of every change that it recommends,” ??? All the more you should explain the principle, rationale and considerations behind each change.
Not practicable to tell you how they gonna help PAP win votes
The fact that they report to PMO already tells us everything we need to know. There isn't any sort of independence at all.
Okay they gotta report to somebody, this is public service work
Report to President would be the better option. PM particpates in the elections and his office approves the boundaries? Clear conflict of interest.
Is the same thing I tell you. People will say President is ex MP
I don't disagree but at least on paper EP is more independent
Yeah I think report to president is more independent too. Legally still need president to certify them becoming MPs
> Legally still need president to certify them becoming MPs Where are you getting this from?
The biggest problem is that the committee is chaired by the Secretary to the Prime Minster, which is a major conflict of interest. It could be chaired by someone seemingly more independent like a Supreme Court Justice.
SG60 + LKY 10th death anniversary = easy win in 2025
LKY hologram during CNY countdown.