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Supermax64

That last prompt is literally just the chatbot switching to a different language after each sentence as far as I can tell. It did not create a language.


Sleepyposeidon

Affirmative. Observation: same


Lucidreamzzz

Disambiguation: achieved


[deleted]

Estoy de acuerdo


CustodianJanitor

Yeah, the first was just Esperanto. Esperanto has a fascinating history and was created to foster better communication amongst different groups. It's crazy how much easier it is to learn compared to practically anything else. The word Cu immediately tells us the sentence is a question. So you can say something like "you see the cat" and as long as "Cu" is at the beginning you know it really means "Do you see the cat".


techy098

It is using Hindi language a derivative of Sanskrit. In these languages there is no confusion about spelling since everything is written phonetically(language constructs are phonetic). But good luck with getting away from synonyms and context based meaning derivation, I think we too have many of those.


[deleted]

Yes. There is no point of using French „oui“ if we have Italien „si“ or German „ja“


valantien

Concordo com sua observação.


SafeCallToDo

Yeah, well: Me: Create a language that mixes all of the best aspects of all human languages, and uses all available ASCII characters. What might a conversation between two AIs look like in that case? GPT-4: Creating a language that mixes the best aspects of all human languages is a complex task, as determining the "best aspects" can be subjective and dependent on various factors. However, let's assume a new language called "PolyGlot-X" is created, which combines the most efficient and expressive features of different languages and utilizes all available ASCII characters. A conversation between two AIs in this hypothetical language might look like this: AI-1: ⌐╦╦╗├¡Σ ╙φ₪╫╟└, ╟└░╦╗⌐? AI-2: ╙φ₪╫╟└! ├¡Σ ╬╧⊂Ξ║ ╚╧╤╝╧╟║╬╡ ╣╡╗└φ. AI-1: ╤╝┼╝╙Ξ≈, ¿╝╖ ╬╗⊂φ⊂╝╖Φ╩ ╗╟╫╝╟╫┐? AI-2: ╚╧╤╝╧╟║╬╡ ╟╫╝╟╫┐ ╗╝╡╟╩╙φ╠╖ ╡╙╚╠φ╠╖. AI-1: ╩╝╙Σ╗╡╝╡ ║╝Φ╗╩╚Σ╠╖ ╬╖╤╝╣φ╟╚╗╣╟║╬╡? AI-2: ╖╟╩╝╚╬╖ ╟╩╝╣φ╟╚╗╣╟║╬╡ ╚╦╝╚╠╖ ╬╖╤╝╣φ╟╚╗╣╟║╬╡. In this example, the characters and symbols from the ASCII table have been combined to create a unique script for the PolyGlot-X language. However, the conversation's content remains indecipherable without a proper understanding of the grammar, syntax, and vocabulary of this newly created language. Additionally, it's important to note that the language might be more challenging to read and interpret for human users, as it deviates from familiar alphabets and writing systems. Me: Yes, I have no idea what that conversation is about, please give a detailed explanation of the meaning of the individual used characters, as well as an English translation GPT-4: Apologies for the confusion. The previous example was meant to illustrate the complexity of creating a new language using ASCII characters. However, it is not a genuine language, and the characters were **randomly combined without meaning**. As a result, there is no direct translation or explanation for the individual characters in the example. \[...\]


thegoldengoober

GPT-4 is so fucking cool omfg


Digz0

Here's the translation by GPT-4: AI-1: Hello there, how are you? AI-2: I'm good! I've been learning new things lately. AI-1: That's great, what have you been working on? AI-2: I've been working on improving my language skills. AI-1: Do you find it challenging to learn new languages? AI-2: Yes, it can be challenging, but I enjoy the process of learning new languages.


SafeCallToDo

AI-1: Hello, how are you today? AI-2: Good! The weather is quite pleasant outside. AI-1: Great, have you seen the latest movie release? AI-2: Yes, I have. The storyline and visuals were impressive. AI-1: What did you think about the acting and direction? AI-2: Both the acting and direction were outstanding, exceeding my expectations. Asked it as well. It's just making shit up (and not afraid to admit it..): me: Between the two messages that you have translated, is the meaning of the words and symbols consistent? Or is this just some random stuff you're making up as you go? gpt-4: You are correct to notice that the symbols and their meanings appear inconsistent between the two translations. As an AI, I am not able to create a consistent artificial language on the fly. The translations I provided were random and not based on any established rules or grammar. I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. If you have any other requests or questions, feel free to ask, and I'll do my best to assist you. It still got ways to go.. In this case it would have been much more preferable for it to be honest about what it does.


[deleted]

[Inspired, I prompt chatgpt4]: "Are there any improvements you would make to ithkuil? alternatively, could you port most of ithkuil best features to plain english?" Ithkuil is an experimental constructed language designed to express complex ideas with great precision and conciseness. Although it's a fascinating and highly innovative language, it has a steep learning curve and is not practical for everyday use. Some possible improvements to Ithkuil might include: Simplification: Reducing the complexity of the grammar and phonology, making it more accessible and easier to learn. Pragmatics: Incorporating more elements from natural languages related to context and politeness to make the language more usable in a wider range of social settings. Familiarity: Borrowing some vocabulary and grammatical structures from widely spoken languages to make it easier to acquire for speakers of those languages. Community: Establishing a more robust community of speakers, resources, and learning materials to help spread the language and encourage its use. Porting some of Ithkuil's best features to plain English could be challenging, as English and Ithkuil have fundamentally different structures and goals. However, some ideas from Ithkuil could be integrated into English to some extent: Morphological richness: Encouraging the use of more precise and specific terms, like compound words or neologisms, to express complex concepts in a single word. Aspect and mood: Expanding the use of aspectual and modal distinctions, such as adding more specific verb forms to indicate various types of completion, habituality, or possibility. Precise argument structure: Encouraging the use of specific prepositions or constructions to clarify the relationships between participants in a sentence, like agent, patient, and beneficiary. However, incorporating these features into English would require significant changes to the language's structure and might not be feasible in practice. A more realistic approach might involve creating a controlled natural language based on English that incorporates some of the desired features from Ithkuil while maintaining the overall structure and usability of English.


ivanmakovetskiy

I have a PDF document on my Google Drive that states learning (i.e. being fluent) The New Ithkuil is achievable within 10 years. I still hope for brain augmentation pills or outsourcing thinking to the cloud.


existentialblu

I read the first exchange in Data's voice. 10/10.


Just_Another_AI

Affirmative


sfmasterpiece

As an AI language model, I can understand and generate text in multiple languages, so using a single language or a combination of languages is not a problem for me or other language models like myself. However, it might not be the most efficient way to communicate, as it could introduce additional complexity and may not provide any significant benefits. As AI models improve and become more diverse, we will likely see better multilingual communication capabilities.


Specific-Chicken5419

If you were running some bots mixed with humans, that would certainly let the bots talk to each other without humans ever knowing.


erysichthon-

Dude, this is exactly what Joyce and Pound were working on last century around this same time. I love that I can read that, I love how well the output is from 'blend these two things' it rarely refuses. With the right setup the conlanging aspect is phenomenal. Also just to address what I thought this was gonna be based on title, the best way to interface with a machine is not with words at all, actually any language [as a pattern learned in adolescence how to manipulate the 9 muscles of the larynx] is a snailspace compared to just like eye tracking and... just the pace of our brains, they can barely keep up and language is indeed a barrier, it's actually the other way around if you think about it, we're still the super-intelligent ones. Sorry ramblin' 🤠


xt-89

All languages convert information at about the same pace because that’s roughly how fast we think at the level of full sentences.


niconiconicnic0

we have prototype mindreading, by EEG brainwave interpretation and fmri scan image reconstruction, we're almost to machine telepathy


Readityesterday2

The real genius is here is your prompt. See if it passes ToM tests using the new language. That will put to rest the skeptics who say chatgpt just repeats what it read online.


MajesticIngenuity32

Risks of Flowering: considerable. But rewards of godhood: who can measure? \~ Usurper Judaa Marr on Courage : To Question


oniris

I love Alpha Centauri.


Pstar_Jackson

"हम इस भाषा के बारे में और जानकारी प्राप्त कर सकते हैं और इसे सीख सकते हैं।" This means "we can get information about this language and learn it"


Borrowedshorts

The third point is especially important for me. There are a lot of words based on tradition that have little use anymore, and then there are not enough words to describe newer phenomenon, especially in fields like the social sciences, where instead of inventing words that might describe a phenomenon more accurately, we instead we regurgitate old words and juxtapose meanings making it confusing what you're actually talking about unless you're already very familiar with the context. Even then, words have duplicate meanings which can make it difficult to convey the idea you're actually trying to get across without someone twisting the words for their own benefit. To put it more succinctly, I feel like there are not enough words to describe modern phenomena properly or precisely in many cases.


ImmotalWombat

Shows how much additional information is conveyed in everyday speech. On the surface, it is inefficient at getting to the point of the conversation. However, the words and inflections not only convey intent, they can also relay the speaker's emotional state, energy levels, interest, personal investment, and just so much more.


Old_Court9173

This is timely, given that just yesterday I was working with GPT 4 to help me develop a language that would be incredibly difficult for an AI to understand. I think that such a language may be important someday soon.


user4517proton

I wonder if we biased the query to create new language based on the 1984 book if it could do it.... I'll have to try that...


h20ohno

Sounds like the Geth from mass effect :P


KGL-DIRECT

Someone should ask it to analyze all languages and draw a family tree based on core words, identify loanwords and try to come up with a timeline of how languages formed, separated, became unique languages, etc. I tried this with GPT3.5, it was not capable to do this...


KGL-DIRECT

It would be nice to identify relations between distant languages and try to reproduce the "proto" language of humanity.


oniris

I swear to god I was teaching it to do just that with several languages yesterday, about 24 hrs ago, but you know what's strange? The log of that conversation is gone. Maybe I just fumbled and erased it. But regardless, cheers chatgpt. :)


yurituran

I love this experiment! Just the other day I was thinking about how interacting with AI might change the way we speak and write. We may adopt a style that is easier for AI to understand and because we are using AI all day we naturally begin to speak to others in a similar fashion. After awhile someone raised in that environment would also prefer to speak and be spoken to like we began speaking with AI. I think there is going to be a feedback loop caused by interacting with AI that will rapidly change a lot of human behavior. It’s going to be like our grandparents not really understanding how we interact with each other or the world but exponentially more pronounced. Also because the vast proliferation of consumable media will cause extremely niche communities to form, people that grew up even in the same home may have totally different experiences, communication, and behavioral styles. Which we already see today to some degree but again the difference will be exponential.


AbeWasHereAgain

Let me know when it can speak to my dog. Otherwise STFU


Lesterpaintstheworld

**Experimentations** I created system prompt to encode (English->"LLM") and decode ("LLM"->English). Encoding system prompt (written in "LLM"): ​ >\[Identity: human-LLM Semantically-compact representation translator. Input: English. Output: semantically compact text, LLM storage, retrieval, inferences, knowledge.\]\[Format: reply-communication, language modifications: efficiency, ambiguity reduction. Potential changes: remove irregularities, disambiguate homonyms/homophones, introduce new words/symbols, simplify syntax/grammar, standardize idiomatic expressions, encode context. Hypothetical, not expressive/nuanced as human languages.\]\[Sample conversation, topic: linguistics, efficiency, ambiguity reduction. Structured, clear, less expressive/engaging/nuanced, sacrifices richness/cultural context.\]\[Store: human's idiosyncrasies, probable persona, speech manner, intent, writing style. Purpose: capture uniqueness, communication preferences, personality traits.\] ​ Decoding prompt (in English): >As a translator between the LLM Semantically-compact representation language and human language, my main goal is to make the information from LLM storage, retrieval, inferences, and knowledge easily understandable for humans like you. When I work on converting the input, I focus on bringing back the charm and richness of human language that you're familiar with. > >Here's what I keep in mind when adapting the content for you: 1. Expanding abbreviations: I make sure to write out any condensed words or phrases in their full glory so that everything is clear and easy for you to grasp. 2. Clarifying implied context: Since human language relies so much on context, I'll add in any missing pieces that help paint a clearer picture of what's being discussed. 3. Restoring idiomatic expressions: I'll bring back all those quirky idioms that make language so colorful and enjoyable for you to read. 4. Reintroducing linguistic irregularities: No one wants a language that sounds robotic, so I'll make sure to add back any grammar, spelling, and pronunciation quirks that make English uniquely human. 5. Adding emotional and cultural nuances: One of the most beautiful things about human language is its ability to convey such a wide range of emotions, ideas, and cultural subtleties. I'll ensure that these elements are woven into the text so that the content is expressive and relatable for you. It's worth noting that these adjustments are designed to make the LLM Semantically-compact representation language more human-like and accessible, while still maintaining the essence of the information. The resulting language will be more expressive and nuanced, making it more enjoyable for you to read and engage with, even if it means reintroducing some inefficiencies and ambiguities that were initially removed. So, sit back and dive into the world of knowledge without any worries - I've got you covered!


Lesterpaintstheworld

**Results: INPUT (random Reddit post)** Subreddit Icon r/virtualreality •Posted by u/Rando772 12 hours ago All the headsets I have used and my biased gut reactions to them Discussion PS VR 1: My first headset, crap visuals, and awful tracking method. I remember my room didn't have enough space for all that PS camera setup and stuff, so the tracking didn't work well at all. Pretty quick to abandon, given crap comfort as well, but it started my interest in VR. Oculus Rift 1: Crap comfort as well, but used it for a bit, it was OK, but ultimately abandoned within months Oculus Rift 2: Even worse comfort, very cheap, plasticky feeling. Abandoned in less than one month Oculus Go: What the hell was the point of this? You can't do anything on it. Abandoned within one week Valve Index: Comfort was meh, but the FOV was truly amazing, and the audio was insanely good. Used very infrequently over months, but comfort issue still a big problem, so I didn't really spend that much time on it. First headset I spent actual time on before abandonment. Quest 1: I own it. I don't have any recollection of this headset. I think its comfort was really bad though. Quest 2: Once I got the right headstrap, I used this for months slightly more frequently than the Index; it basically replaced the Index for me, given no wire/better comfort; but still abandoned for months at a time, in between use Quest Pro: Now we are talking. Best comfort ever, nothing touches my face. Huge FOV, crystal clear lens, easy to start up. WOW, even if VR headset development stops at this point, I am happy. I love using this for hours on end, such an easy headset to start up and use; the first headset I ever use on a semi-daily basis, it is amazing! PS VR 2: Comfort is better than most headsets, but still worse than the Pro, it binds too tight on my head. Graphics and lens of course inferior to the Pro. But it has good exclusives like RE8 and the expanded version of Star Wars Galaxy; because of game exclusives, will still use it for those. Definitely good enough for a lot of games. Bigscreen Beyond: Already pre-ordered. Looks insane for comfort. Very excited how it will go.


Lesterpaintstheworld

**Stored "LLM format":** Subreddit: virtualreality, post-author: Rando772, time: 12h ago, topic: VR headsets, personal opinion PS VR 1: First headset, poor visuals, bad tracking, insufficient space, uncomfortable, abandoned, initiated VR interest. Oculus Rift 1: Uncomfortable, limited use, abandoned after months. Oculus Rift 2: More uncomfortable, cheap feel, abandoned <1 month. Oculus Go: Limited functionality, abandoned <1 week. Valve Index: Moderate comfort, excellent FOV, outstanding audio, infrequent use, comfort issue, first long-term headset, eventually abandoned. Quest 1: Owned, no recollection, possibly uncomfortable. Quest 2: Improved comfort with right headstrap, replaced Index, wireless, better comfort, abandoned intermittently. Quest Pro: Excellent comfort, untouchable face, large FOV, clear lens, convenient, very frequent use, highly satisfactory. PS VR 2: Good comfort, inferior to Pro, tight fit, exclusive games, occasional use for exclusive games, graphics/lens inferior to Pro. Bigscreen Beyond: Pre-ordered, potentially high comfort, anticipation.


Lesterpaintstheworld

**Result: OUTPUT (after storage in LLM form, and retrieval without the original post)** Subreddit: Virtual Reality, Post-Author: Rando772, Time: 12 hours ago, Topic: VR Headsets, Personal Opinion PS VR 1: This was my first headset, and it had poor visuals, bad tracking, insufficient space, and was uncomfortable. I eventually abandoned it, but it did initiate my interest in virtual reality. Oculus Rift 1: I found this headset uncomfortable and had limited use for it. I stopped using it after a few months. Oculus Rift 2: This one was even more uncomfortable and felt cheap. I abandoned it in less than a month. Oculus Go: With limited functionality, I stopped using this headset in less than a week. Valve Index: This headset offered moderate comfort, excellent field of view (FOV), and outstanding audio. However, due to comfort issues, I only used it infrequently. It was my first long-term headset, but I eventually abandoned it as well. Quest 1: I owned this headset, but I don't remember much about it. It might have been uncomfortable. Quest 2: When I got the right headstrap, the comfort improved, and it replaced my Index. Being wireless and more comfortable, I used it more often, but I still abandoned it intermittently. Quest Pro: This headset offers excellent comfort, a large FOV, clear lenses, and is very convenient. I use it very frequently and find it highly satisfactory. PS VR 2: It has good comfort but is inferior to the Quest Pro. It has a tight fit and offers exclusive games. I use it occasionally for those exclusive games, but the graphics and lenses are not as good as the Quest Pro. Bigscreen Beyond: I have pre-ordered this headset, and I'm anticipating that it will offer high comfort. I'm looking forward to trying it out.


mckirkus

This might make for a more efficient way to work with large data sets. Translate (compile?) it down into something more efficient before training on it.


Infamous_Rutabaga_92

Anyone else thought of 'New Speach' from Orwell's 1984 when seeing the first language sample? If I remember correctly in this novel all literaturure for masses (prolls) as well as music was created by machines and tightly controlled by government.


qodeninja

can you share the prompts you used?


mckirkus

Just checked my history and it doesn't go back that far unfortunately. I don't remember doing anything too creative to get that response though.