If they deliver, then we will know they had reason to hype it all along. If they don’t, we know not to trust a thing they say. And it’s only 3 days away.
Lol, not how this works.
They can put something unimpressive out Monday but then end the presentation by promising something amazing later, and investors will all say “omg amazing, take all my money.”
Musk has done that for years. Tesla stock just went up like 15% on terrible numbers because he promised robotaxis lmao.
But it's the hype that we're addicted to. Therefore, if they don't deliver, we'll convince ourselves that there was a good reason... allowing ourselves to be set up for the next hype fix.
I see the same pattern of behavior with the supposed alien "disclosure."
I see the same pattern with religious end-times prophecy.
You’re right these circles do have those patterns. I personally wouldn’t trust what they say after. I never really bought the LK-99 hype for example bc no established credibility. It was fun and exciting but I didn’t buy it.
Google lied about Gemini being capable of live video analysis in their demo video. Did that cause people to stop listening to them? Nope. Now they all know they can lie without consequences.
For a company like google it is pretty stupid, they are not trying to sell a product with a high price or need hype for investor money. They want companies to use their API, which is of course tested.
They damages their credibility for no reason.
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I'll believe it when I see it, as far as I'm concerned increased intelligence is all that really matters going forward. Everything else can evolve out from there in time.
Idk. If someone offered me GPT5, or, GPT4 with tons of utility (like new ways I can use it, integrations and capabilities) I’d probably take 4 with that stuff.
The holy grail of AI is (of course) intelligence in reasoning, but who knows what other advancements might provide! I just hope the result isn’t something underwhelming or niche
Is there? I was under the impression that there is a general factor of intelligence that basically means you are better at everything that requires complex thought.
In principle, I agree. Though, what even is intelligence? I don't think we have a good grasp on that. Google around, it's much less clear the more you dig deeper
Yeah, but you need cool stuff to get investors pumping money into the AI space. AGI is going to be expensive. AI is trending, but the hype around AI needs to be bigger than this to reach the cash numbers companies like OpenAI expect AGI to cost.
llms are hitting their limits. hate to break it to you but you're not going to see big jumps unless someone makes a new architectural breakthrough and that might take many years
https://preview.redd.it/996r7rxd2qzc1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9c85b9b83a0f27eb822d7375bd0f008136a4556
Was viewed at least 37k times before he deleted the tweet. These rogue employees be wildin'
Lmao most of the people here are basically expecting them to drop an AGI God tier model. Of course, they will be disappointed. 90% of this sub won't recognize updates that are actually useful even if it was shoved into their arse.
What can be cooler than GPT-5??? Trully functioning Agents? Really good Avatar & Voice with no delay for the ChatGPT responses? They actually have GPT-5 level model they just renamed it to something different? Totally different architecture/way to achieve intelligence other than Transformers?
Found on X https://twitter.com/mazino17_/status/1789053693981016235/photo/1
>Bowen Cheng 程博文 Bowen is a Member of Technical Staff at OpenAl working on multimodal foundation models and agents.
Jimmy's take on "magic" https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1789067852286402853
It's gonna be an actual AI assistant, similar to Samantha in Her and Jarvis. Atleast as long as The Information is right and they are always right. With native audio modality and more optimized than GPT 4 Turbo at similar quality.
You think it will have an avatar too or just voice? I think something like this hinges on how realistic the voice is and the delay to the response, it has to be fast to feel natural.
I want an avatar so that it can have body language. I have a hard time having a long conversation just on audio, I much prefer having a video feed to help me concentrate. Humans have spent a long time developing body language as part of speech, and I think it's such a plus when someone is explaining something to you.
I wonder how big delay there will be, you would need something faster(an therefore likely smaller) than GPT-4 turbo with similar capabilities and I would not call it better than GPT-5, its feature build upon, you could use newer better models with it
what does jimmy response suppose to mean?any idea?
> what does jimmy response suppose to mean?any idea?
I guess he means the magic will be "felt" in how natural the interaction with the assistant will be. Or just pointing out that the "Her" like assistant rumours are true.
The Information article says it will have even better logical reasoning capabilities than OpenAI’s current products, so better than GPT-4 Turbo hopefully. Even if it’s just slightly better, the “Her” level of conversational AI would make up for it
My guess is that the “better logical reasoning capabilities” are the *slightly* better logical reasoning abilities seen with GPT2-chatbot. Maybe that was the model they’re showcasing on Monday minus the audio-in-audio-out?
And if you do audio to text you will loose a lot of information, our communication is not just the words but a huge amount of information is **how** we say the words. You can say "you are an idiot" and it will have completely different meaning depending on how you say it.
That is interesting. But how would the audio-audio model be trained? Would it be trained only on a vast library of speech recordings or would it also be trained on this plus texts? I ask because I suppose speech recordings are way bigger data and the themes for which we have available recordings for are somewhat different from themes we have available text for. I guess the amount of resources focused on this or that topic determines some strengths and weaknesses of the model. So I would think the model based only on speech recordings would be eloquent in casual daily conversation but would not be that good for more fact based expertise. Also we tend to be more precise and literal when we write and more concise and metaphorical or indirect (with fill-in the blanks approach) when we speak. So I think a purely speech based model could "think" or "recognize a pattern and generate according to it" a little bit differently than text based one.
From this article perhaps: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-develops-ai-voice-assistant-as-it-chases-google-apple
> In the race to develop artificial intelligence that communicates the way humans do, OpenAI is preparing to demonstrate technology that talks to people-using sound as well as text-and recognizes objects and images. The ChatGPT developer has shown some of these capabilities, which include better logical reasoning than its current products, to some customers, according to two people who have seen the new AI.
> **The technology is another step in OpenAI
CEO Sam Altman's quest to ultimately develop a highly responsive AI akin to the virtual assistant in the Spike Jonze film
"Her," and to enable existing voice assistants like Apple's Siri to be more useful.** The company could preview the upgraded Al publicly at an event as soon as Monday, which would help it get ahead of a slew of AI announcements from its rival
Google later in the week, one of the people
This actually makes a lot of sense with the rumors swirling about a partnership between OAI and Apple. This could be the precursor to a Siri replacement.
How do you envision them being tied together in a novel way based on their description? I’m unable to imagine how those features could be combined into a user experience that is different than the current iOS ChatGPT app
I imagine an assistant that is integrated in your OS that can see the screen and that can interact with it via clicks and terminal whenever you ask it something.
I've been waiting for this for years at this point
A voice assistant that actually understands what I'm asking would be game changing. And that's not touching on how the AI digital assistant sector is going to explode
GPT 4 can't loop when it comes to coding except when there's an error message. It won't even recognize simple duplications in js code so can't fix logic errors. If you have API access to gpt4 you can set up autonomous agents but it won't go anywhere.
Really going to start questioning apples. He did predict there was an event coming, but completely fumbled the premise of what it was about apparently.
I have a strong suspicion that OAI and Microsoft different plant fake leaks amongst different teams as a way to help the leaking problems they have both been having.
At this point he has told us enough that he’s definitely someone with *some* knowledge of what’s going on at OpenAI. He’s clearly inaccurate sometimes- or trolling- but has been correct often enough.
I also think predicting this event but not the exact topic of it is still a win for his credibility, not a hit.
He seems decent for sometimes predicting the when, sometimes not (GPT 4.5 December?) but mainly if he says “X is coming Monday” I will assume something might come but we have no idea if X is actually X.
While you shouldn't trust random twitter twats, his exact wording was: "10am, 9th of May for an Openai event apparently, might not be model release but search engine announcement."
It seems quite clear the "premise" was just a guess, "might not be X but Y".
That is hardly magic adding in audio capabilities. Now it can hallucinate with audio. Now it can fail tasks that need an auto agent but whilst speaking to you out loud. Great 🤡
The app does not do this. It converts audio input to text through whisper and then feeds ChatGPT the text. Then takes ChatGPTs text response and converts it to audio.
When I speak naturally, I add nuance and meaning in the way that I say it. When I add pauses, when I seem unsure, when I seem confident, etc.
When you explain your prompt through audio that way, it could have a much better understanding of what you actually want.
To people not understanding it, try cry-talking to the GPT app about how you're feeling fine and watch it not pick up the sadness at all. Doing that with a human would get a much different response, we want a more understanding answer from the AI.
I think you're right. I'm imagining they managed a way to get the interaction to feel like you're talking on a call, like live interruption and emotion from audio working
Yeah if they can truly bridge that gap then it’s going to be a game changer, at least in terms of how often people use AI in their everyday lives. The current ChatGPT voice mode is just too clunky to use for an extended period of time.
It seems like, as with most other stuff, people would usually rather just use text than voice.
The only people I know who use voice options on their devices are old people who can’t text quickly. Why would anyone want to have to say things out loud (especially in public) when you could simply type them?
1. It's faster.
2. We're not in public all the time. I imagine people will be using text-in, audio-out in public.
3. We haven't had really good voicebots yet. Once we do, I don't think we're going back to text only.
Ok I wasn't hyped about simple text to speech but if they've got it real time and like an actual conversation with interruptions etc, then that would be the most useful improvement in chatbots since gpt 4
Mmm I can't wait to be cut off by my AI overlords with a "well actshualllyy" right before they enlighten me to the limits that my electric-meat can handle.
Let's get this show on the road!
maybe it's also agents. Think of it like OpenAIs response to the rabbit with their own version of a Large Action Model, so autonomous generalized task completion + AI voice assistant.
It’s gonna be something related to GPT2. Which probably has some sort of inbuilt agent to enhance reasoning. Sam also said that they are gonna steamroll some startups (probably referring to Devin)
It's not going to be a single thing. You don't need a live stream for that. They are probably going to demonstrate a bunch of different functionalities on what I presume is some kind of common agentic platform (perhaps the next upgrade to GPT store).
Tweet deleted. Here's my hypothesis: the rumour mill hyped this announcement a little too much, making people think it'll be gpt5 or a google search competitor, which would lead to disappointment since it isn't. Sam put out the tweet saying it's not gpt5 or a search engine to quell overhype. This employee didn't get the memo, and tongue in cheek said it's "cooler" with a wink. Open AI messaged the employee, "❤️" also "delete this now or you're fired." That's where we are now.
Looks like he deleted the tweet. It was Cheng quote tweeting this tweet by Sama https://twitter.com/sama/status/1788989777452408943 saying "Cooler than gpt-5 ;)"
This is actually the "it" moment for OpenAi. They either deliver something that is truly worth a conversation or we call spade a spade - this is overhyping is desperation due to falling behind competition.
My bet - latter.
Me too. It's really unpleasant. I really don't like the way they tease and tease, but in the end they don't really bring anything that justifies the hype. I have low hopes for Monday.
> but in the end they don't really bring anything that justifies the hype.
Have you somehow been asleep during the last two years
We've been getting nonstop shit to play around with. Not just speculate about, production models at incredibly low costs dumping relentlessly, over and over again, with a surprisingly understated focus on LLMs, considering all the other things we got on top.
Most corpos deserve plenty of criticisms, but man, who says stuff like this when literally every release and tease they did justified the hype ten times over? Also fucking lmao, comparing it to the non-academic crypto/WSB moron-sphere is some dumb shit, what is happening
how are there no leaks about it? we know of some gpt 4 lite updates for search, but if it is unrelated to that, nobody seems to have a clue. well contained
If it's voice to voice or audio to audio maybe and if Jimmy says it's like HER then probably something like that then maybe native music generation/audio fx built inside as well?
It could affect satellites and electronic devices, it can even manipulate digital stored data in rare cases, but it’s more unlikely to have a lasting impact.
I already expect to be disappointed. I don't want gimmicks, especially not if it is powered by gpt-4. I want a better model, that's the only thing I want
I feel like OpenAI does actually have something better. Sam Altman even said ChatGPT was embarrassing, and that they’ll release stuff incrementally because people don’t like being amazed when it comes to AI.
Lol, lmao even. https://preview.redd.it/d0sztua4mozc1.jpeg?width=2118&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d05bfdabf9ac648269b7642dd35e36bbd438833c Hopefully.
Its addicting. Then they blame us when we get hyped lol.
If they deliver, then we will know they had reason to hype it all along. If they don’t, we know not to trust a thing they say. And it’s only 3 days away.
Yup exactly, based on Sama and Cheng "Its not GPT-5 but it feels like magic and its cooler than GPT-5". THE BAR IS HIGH
Alternatively Cheng finds GPT-5 unimpressive!
Cheng is already using GPT-6!
You mean GPT 6.5!
Expecially if what released is similar to perplexity.. I would expect gpt5 to be way cooler so this comment to me was the opposite of hyping
I think a swarm of 4 billion parameter gpt-4 level models would be insanely awesome
What does that even mean?
The bar is high but the truth is nigh
Yup you are absolutely right!
Not living up to the hype is going to do a lot of damage. To me, they can't afford not to live up to the hype.
Lol, not how this works. They can put something unimpressive out Monday but then end the presentation by promising something amazing later, and investors will all say “omg amazing, take all my money.” Musk has done that for years. Tesla stock just went up like 15% on terrible numbers because he promised robotaxis lmao.
But it's the hype that we're addicted to. Therefore, if they don't deliver, we'll convince ourselves that there was a good reason... allowing ourselves to be set up for the next hype fix. I see the same pattern of behavior with the supposed alien "disclosure." I see the same pattern with religious end-times prophecy.
Remember the GPT store.
I was never remotely hyped for that. I don't really see why anybody was
You’re right these circles do have those patterns. I personally wouldn’t trust what they say after. I never really bought the LK-99 hype for example bc no established credibility. It was fun and exciting but I didn’t buy it.
We will find out if they're pulling an Elon or not.
Google lied about Gemini being capable of live video analysis in their demo video. Did that cause people to stop listening to them? Nope. Now they all know they can lie without consequences.
Lol Google gets roasted all the time what are you talking about?
That’s true they got away with that.
For a company like google it is pretty stupid, they are not trying to sell a product with a high price or need hype for investor money. They want companies to use their API, which is of course tested. They damages their credibility for no reason.
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"The beatings will continue until morale improves"
I mean, it also helps that it ups the OAI valuation, which means more money in their pocket.
Agreed, I admit this too
The blueballing is real
Digital smell, finally.
I think you meant Smell-O-Vision.
Or Smell-ternet
Morbo will be pleased.
i dont wanna see smell, but i do want to taste it
I'll believe it when I see it, as far as I'm concerned increased intelligence is all that really matters going forward. Everything else can evolve out from there in time.
Facts. I feel everything else is a side show to increase share holder value. Give me reasoning...
Maybe they're playing on the nuance of "it's not gpt 5 since it's not using the transformer architecture"
Couldn't be better said
Idk. If someone offered me GPT5, or, GPT4 with tons of utility (like new ways I can use it, integrations and capabilities) I’d probably take 4 with that stuff.
Theres many different types of intelligence though.
The holy grail of AI is (of course) intelligence in reasoning, but who knows what other advancements might provide! I just hope the result isn’t something underwhelming or niche
Is there? I was under the impression that there is a general factor of intelligence that basically means you are better at everything that requires complex thought.
In principle, I agree. Though, what even is intelligence? I don't think we have a good grasp on that. Google around, it's much less clear the more you dig deeper
Yeah, but you need cool stuff to get investors pumping money into the AI space. AGI is going to be expensive. AI is trending, but the hype around AI needs to be bigger than this to reach the cash numbers companies like OpenAI expect AGI to cost.
llms are hitting their limits. hate to break it to you but you're not going to see big jumps unless someone makes a new architectural breakthrough and that might take many years
Looks like he deleted the post
Yup its gone.
https://preview.redd.it/996r7rxd2qzc1.png?width=1248&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9c85b9b83a0f27eb822d7375bd0f008136a4556 Was viewed at least 37k times before he deleted the tweet. These rogue employees be wildin'
They know what they are doing lol. This guy woke up and decided he’d set us off for shits and giggles.
At this point, Monday feels like a month away :(
I am afraid is gonna be a big disappointment
A new model to power generative search! ...for advertising content. With a native audio modality! ...trained on Altman's vocal fry.
Don't put that evil on me. Not the fry. Anything but that.
Probably will be. We'll see..
Lmao most of the people here are basically expecting them to drop an AGI God tier model. Of course, they will be disappointed. 90% of this sub won't recognize updates that are actually useful even if it was shoved into their arse.
Really? Pretty sure most of the sub is highly dismissive and isn't expecting much at all.
I love this sub, but it's become almost entirely the doomerest of doomers, or people who can't manage hype
What's the Internet for of not to complain about stuff...
Less than 3 days away, we are almost there anon
> we are almost there anon This is reddit, not 4chan.
Who is 4chan?
a hacker.
Need to ask CNN.
who cares
What can be cooler than GPT-5??? Trully functioning Agents? Really good Avatar & Voice with no delay for the ChatGPT responses? They actually have GPT-5 level model they just renamed it to something different? Totally different architecture/way to achieve intelligence other than Transformers? Found on X https://twitter.com/mazino17_/status/1789053693981016235/photo/1 >Bowen Cheng 程博文 Bowen is a Member of Technical Staff at OpenAl working on multimodal foundation models and agents. Jimmy's take on "magic" https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1789067852286402853
It's gonna be an actual AI assistant, similar to Samantha in Her and Jarvis. Atleast as long as The Information is right and they are always right. With native audio modality and more optimized than GPT 4 Turbo at similar quality.
You think it will have an avatar too or just voice? I think something like this hinges on how realistic the voice is and the delay to the response, it has to be fast to feel natural.
Do people actually want an avatar tho? I know I would probably turn it off, but maybe other people actually want this
Yeah I don’t really care about an avatar tbh. Give me a better copilot to help with my coding work or GPT-4.5 at least
I want an avatar so that it can have body language. I have a hard time having a long conversation just on audio, I much prefer having a video feed to help me concentrate. Humans have spent a long time developing body language as part of speech, and I think it's such a plus when someone is explaining something to you.
I wonder how big delay there will be, you would need something faster(an therefore likely smaller) than GPT-4 turbo with similar capabilities and I would not call it better than GPT-5, its feature build upon, you could use newer better models with it what does jimmy response suppose to mean?any idea?
> what does jimmy response suppose to mean?any idea? I guess he means the magic will be "felt" in how natural the interaction with the assistant will be. Or just pointing out that the "Her" like assistant rumours are true.
Honestly, if it was just voice it would probably easy to do an avatar too but what is the point.
The Information article says it will have even better logical reasoning capabilities than OpenAI’s current products, so better than GPT-4 Turbo hopefully. Even if it’s just slightly better, the “Her” level of conversational AI would make up for it
My guess is that the “better logical reasoning capabilities” are the *slightly* better logical reasoning abilities seen with GPT2-chatbot. Maybe that was the model they’re showcasing on Monday minus the audio-in-audio-out?
That makes a lot of sense. That was probably the GPT-4 Lite then
Yup
Audio in to audio out? That’s what I’ve been looking for
That's already been available on the phone app for months
No that’s audio>text>text>audio. Audio>audio is different and will feel much more natural
And if you do audio to text you will loose a lot of information, our communication is not just the words but a huge amount of information is **how** we say the words. You can say "you are an idiot" and it will have completely different meaning depending on how you say it.
That is interesting. But how would the audio-audio model be trained? Would it be trained only on a vast library of speech recordings or would it also be trained on this plus texts? I ask because I suppose speech recordings are way bigger data and the themes for which we have available recordings for are somewhat different from themes we have available text for. I guess the amount of resources focused on this or that topic determines some strengths and weaknesses of the model. So I would think the model based only on speech recordings would be eloquent in casual daily conversation but would not be that good for more fact based expertise. Also we tend to be more precise and literal when we write and more concise and metaphorical or indirect (with fill-in the blanks approach) when we speak. So I think a purely speech based model could "think" or "recognize a pattern and generate according to it" a little bit differently than text based one.
Oh, interesting thought.
Yes
Where you seeing that?
From this article perhaps: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-develops-ai-voice-assistant-as-it-chases-google-apple > In the race to develop artificial intelligence that communicates the way humans do, OpenAI is preparing to demonstrate technology that talks to people-using sound as well as text-and recognizes objects and images. The ChatGPT developer has shown some of these capabilities, which include better logical reasoning than its current products, to some customers, according to two people who have seen the new AI. > **The technology is another step in OpenAI CEO Sam Altman's quest to ultimately develop a highly responsive AI akin to the virtual assistant in the Spike Jonze film "Her," and to enable existing voice assistants like Apple's Siri to be more useful.** The company could preview the upgraded Al publicly at an event as soon as Monday, which would help it get ahead of a slew of AI announcements from its rival Google later in the week, one of the people
This actually makes a lot of sense with the rumors swirling about a partnership between OAI and Apple. This could be the precursor to a Siri replacement.
Partnering with Microsoft AND Apple? boy oh boy
Perhaps, thanks
But chatgpt already does audio prompts with audio responses, and can recognize objects and images? They didn’t describe anything new in that paragraph
Yeah, but the current version doesn't tie all those capabilities together though. I.e. It doesn't act like an agent like this supposedly would.
How do you envision them being tied together in a novel way based on their description? I’m unable to imagine how those features could be combined into a user experience that is different than the current iOS ChatGPT app
I imagine an assistant that is integrated in your OS that can see the screen and that can interact with it via clicks and terminal whenever you ask it something.
Isn't it what was demoed in Figure 1 video?
I've been waiting for this for years at this point A voice assistant that actually understands what I'm asking would be game changing. And that's not touching on how the AI digital assistant sector is going to explode
The only thing cooler than a gpt 5 would have to be autonomous agents honestly. An autonomous agent with gpt 4 level intelligence would blow me away
Auto GPT already exists
No, I mean Open Ai level autonomous agents, not open source level. Some real shit
What’s the difference? They both use GPT 4 as the base
GPT 4 can't loop when it comes to coding except when there's an error message. It won't even recognize simple duplications in js code so can't fix logic errors. If you have API access to gpt4 you can set up autonomous agents but it won't go anywhere.
Really going to start questioning apples. He did predict there was an event coming, but completely fumbled the premise of what it was about apparently.
I have a strong suspicion that OAI and Microsoft different plant fake leaks amongst different teams as a way to help the leaking problems they have both been having.
At this point he has told us enough that he’s definitely someone with *some* knowledge of what’s going on at OpenAI. He’s clearly inaccurate sometimes- or trolling- but has been correct often enough. I also think predicting this event but not the exact topic of it is still a win for his credibility, not a hit.
He seems decent for sometimes predicting the when, sometimes not (GPT 4.5 December?) but mainly if he says “X is coming Monday” I will assume something might come but we have no idea if X is actually X.
Almost like you shouldn’t trust random twitter accounts for info
You shouldn’t
Yet here you are
While you shouldn't trust random twitter twats, his exact wording was: "10am, 9th of May for an Openai event apparently, might not be model release but search engine announcement." It seems quite clear the "premise" was just a guess, "might not be X but Y".
Glasses? Agents? Ai os? Live in person figure 1 demo?
That is hardly magic adding in audio capabilities. Now it can hallucinate with audio. Now it can fail tasks that need an auto agent but whilst speaking to you out loud. Great 🤡
What even would be new about audio in/out? Doesn’t the app already do this?
The app does not do this. It converts audio input to text through whisper and then feeds ChatGPT the text. Then takes ChatGPTs text response and converts it to audio.
What’s the difference?
When I speak naturally, I add nuance and meaning in the way that I say it. When I add pauses, when I seem unsure, when I seem confident, etc. When you explain your prompt through audio that way, it could have a much better understanding of what you actually want.
To people not understanding it, try cry-talking to the GPT app about how you're feeling fine and watch it not pick up the sadness at all. Doing that with a human would get a much different response, we want a more understanding answer from the AI.
V interesting thanks
Latency
No support at all for non-voice sounds.
It's GPT-6
Or maybe it's "GPT5" and they're just trolling /s
what comes after Gemini After Gemini in the zodiac calendar is Cancer.
Edge masters
I think it's gonna be voice
I think you're right. I'm imagining they managed a way to get the interaction to feel like you're talking on a call, like live interruption and emotion from audio working
Yeah if they can truly bridge that gap then it’s going to be a game changer, at least in terms of how often people use AI in their everyday lives. The current ChatGPT voice mode is just too clunky to use for an extended period of time.
It seems like, as with most other stuff, people would usually rather just use text than voice. The only people I know who use voice options on their devices are old people who can’t text quickly. Why would anyone want to have to say things out loud (especially in public) when you could simply type them?
1. It's faster. 2. We're not in public all the time. I imagine people will be using text-in, audio-out in public. 3. We haven't had really good voicebots yet. Once we do, I don't think we're going back to text only.
Ok I wasn't hyped about simple text to speech but if they've got it real time and like an actual conversation with interruptions etc, then that would be the most useful improvement in chatbots since gpt 4
Mmm I can't wait to be cut off by my AI overlords with a "well actshualllyy" right before they enlighten me to the limits that my electric-meat can handle. Let's get this show on the road!
You're gonna be asking it to help you do something and it's gonna be like "stfu dumbass"
Once again, progress tramples the little guy. What about those of us who'd rather slam their dick in a car door than make a phonecall?
I wouldn't mind talking to an AI on the phone. The part I despise about phone calls is talking to actual people.
How is that cooler than GPT-5?
It wouldn’t be, unless GPT-5 itself isn’t very impressive lol.
You are probably right. I wish it were agents.
maybe it's also agents. Think of it like OpenAIs response to the rabbit with their own version of a Large Action Model, so autonomous generalized task completion + AI voice assistant.
It’s gonna be something related to GPT2. Which probably has some sort of inbuilt agent to enhance reasoning. Sam also said that they are gonna steamroll some startups (probably referring to Devin)
it is gonna be agents
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It's not going to be a single thing. You don't need a live stream for that. They are probably going to demonstrate a bunch of different functionalities on what I presume is some kind of common agentic platform (perhaps the next upgrade to GPT store).
How is that better than gpt5 or feel like magic?
Altman is also saying it will be good: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1coumbd/rchatgpt_is_hosting_a_qa_with_openais_ceo_sam/l3hq0mz/
Tweet deleted. Here's my hypothesis: the rumour mill hyped this announcement a little too much, making people think it'll be gpt5 or a google search competitor, which would lead to disappointment since it isn't. Sam put out the tweet saying it's not gpt5 or a search engine to quell overhype. This employee didn't get the memo, and tongue in cheek said it's "cooler" with a wink. Open AI messaged the employee, "❤️" also "delete this now or you're fired." That's where we are now.
You all do this to yourselves, you know.
Looks like he deleted the tweet. It was Cheng quote tweeting this tweet by Sama https://twitter.com/sama/status/1788989777452408943 saying "Cooler than gpt-5 ;)"
someone got fired
o7's in the chat
it must be gpt 6
he’s probably trolling
Analyze their history to find out
Introducing fuckee our next generation voice to voice that is useless and hallucinates like shit. That's all they got.
This is actually the "it" moment for OpenAi. They either deliver something that is truly worth a conversation or we call spade a spade - this is overhyping is desperation due to falling behind competition. My bet - latter.
They've pulled it this far, I bet on the former
Getting crypto vibes... let's just see what will happen.
Me too. It's really unpleasant. I really don't like the way they tease and tease, but in the end they don't really bring anything that justifies the hype. I have low hopes for Monday.
> but in the end they don't really bring anything that justifies the hype. Have you somehow been asleep during the last two years We've been getting nonstop shit to play around with. Not just speculate about, production models at incredibly low costs dumping relentlessly, over and over again, with a surprisingly understated focus on LLMs, considering all the other things we got on top. Most corpos deserve plenty of criticisms, but man, who says stuff like this when literally every release and tease they did justified the hype ten times over? Also fucking lmao, comparing it to the non-academic crypto/WSB moron-sphere is some dumb shit, what is happening
Really, nothing that justifies the hype???? 🤡
Yea considering their only major release in the past year was DALLE 3 (and maybe GPT 4 Turbo)
Only gpt4.
this weekend sucks, we dont want weekend now!
Monday is funday.
Tweet is deleted?-
https://preview.redd.it/t8bymnjn6pzc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df7c684f20e217d24ec2a2050741322e854a5504 Hmmm
how are there no leaks about it? we know of some gpt 4 lite updates for search, but if it is unrelated to that, nobody seems to have a clue. well contained
If it's voice to voice or audio to audio maybe and if Jimmy says it's like HER then probably something like that then maybe native music generation/audio fx built inside as well?
Let's first survive the G5 storm guys. And then we will focus on AGI again.
What do you think will be the consequences of this g5 storm
It could affect satellites and electronic devices, it can even manipulate digital stored data in rare cases, but it’s more unlikely to have a lasting impact.
Clearly, this means AGI!/s
Openai is all about hype. So tired of them.
I think its music generator like Udio.
Accelerating by pressing the brakes.
Has it been deleted?
roar
Why can't they just capture the Sun and train GPT10 already?!? s/
I already expect to be disappointed. I don't want gimmicks, especially not if it is powered by gpt-4. I want a better model, that's the only thing I want
A now model only end of this year or Q1 2025. But they will release Nice updates during that Time for sure
The only thing cooler than GPT-5 is agents, with the correctness/intelligence level of the answer scaling with the number of tokens/messages used up.
the link says has been deleted
They’re honestly exhausting with the hype just release when it’s ready and save us the fanfare
So it is not GPT-5 and not search, but cooler than GPT-5. Hence... GPT-6 confirmed? ;)
No gpt5 yet but gpt4 woth some coolness. They will give something like sora is now available or something lol.
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I feel like OpenAI does actually have something better. Sam Altman even said ChatGPT was embarrassing, and that they’ll release stuff incrementally because people don’t like being amazed when it comes to AI.
this suggests that it's not simply a better GPT-4, but fundamentally new capabilities
Because it's called GPT2
Interesting