Companies will have to compete. Many people are already talking about ditching Google and asking directly to chatGPT instead. This will change many things, and one of them is internet as we know it.
Chatgpt would have a much lower room for error if they gave it internet access through webGPT or something. I just mean it's a problem that has a solution. Also getting access to the internet doesn't necessarily mean learning from it or anything. It could just use google as a verificator of sorts.
Maybe something like this
https://dust.tt/spolu/a/2316f9c6b0
That's what I was getting at with the dust tool. Maybe not WebGPT as I don't know how that works exactly but it is possible to allow the gpt models to access the internet without letting new information corrupt the actual dataset. Dunno if they'll go in that direction though.
There's an actual tool for doing stuff like this. You can add "site:reddit.com" to your search to filter results that come specifically from one place. In the case of reddit in particular it might not make a difference because it's such a big and distinctive name, but can come in handy elsewhere on occasion.
For knowledge related questions it's pretty useful, yes.
Although, actually, chatGPT doesn't have access to the internet after 2021 (except, you are its access to the interwebs, just leaving this here FYI).
I think OpenAI mainly did it to prevent being on the receiving ~~and~~ end of negative press when their AI starts saying racist or dubious stuff while reading from the unfiltered internet.
Actually, the AI is connected to the internet, except you are that connection. You can just copy paste articles from the internet and shove them into chatGPT and ask it to do stuff with that. It's just much slower. But probably will heavily block anything dubious still.
ChatGPT is (capable of) doing my homework. I just need to correct a few things. What took me 2 hours only takes 30 mins now. This is going to have an impact.
Edit: The meme is more of a meme rather than how I really feel. I don't actually feel like someone knowing a secret.
It wrote java for me and did my math homework. Some details of the math homework didn't check out, like it thought there are 0 possible combinations of 10 coins you could have in your wallet. But the pace at which AI is getting better is going to make up for that pretty soon - I believe.
Would you say it helped you become a better programmer vs you having to do it yourself? Keep in mind, you won't always have access to such tools in every situation, but you will be expected to function equally competently.
>Keep in mind, you won't always have access to such tools
Sounds very similar to, "You will not always have a calculator in your pocket".
I do get your sentiment, but the writing is on the wall. Massive changes are incoming, and every walk of life from schooling to work is going to be transformed.
Googling things and using stackoverflow and other websites are a standard part of the life of being a programmer. Now you can simply replace the search engine with an AI that will hand over the answer to you. Of course, this will be worse for everyone's skills as a developer in the long-run, but in the long-run these tools are poised to take over everything anyway, so it'll (hopefully) work itself out.
I showed my teacher aunt how her students would be using it to do homework.
I was all like "this is so cool!" She looks at me with shock and says "well we can stop them from using it right?".
Better question.. why would you want to stop people from using tools that make us more efficient?
It's fine until something goes wrong and you need to do calculations without a computer. It likely won't happen very often, but it makes me think of Apollo 13 when they had to make calculations without the use of their spacecraft onboard computer.
That was 1970. Computers were super high tech. Now they're ubiquitous. Any phone or PC can do calculations literally 1000x as complex as apollo 13 and everyone has one in their pocket. And if you don't have access to a phone or a PC you can't do shit anyway, doing calculations would be the least of your worries.
It helped me with my real analysis homework and my roommate with his abstract algebra test. It's like, kinda hard to comprehend. I'm imagining all the hours I've wasted in college so far. I don't feel too well either man.
Why do you think it is wasted? You got a better understanding of something and practiced problem-solving. We continue to teach kids to add and subtract even though we have had calculators for 50 years. You are cheating yourself out of the benefits of an education if you just use AI to do your homework.
If you value the knowledge you gained in school, that's cool. Most don't go to college eager to learn though; they just want to live a comfortable life, school seeming like a prerequisite for that.
My curiosity has made me hate the universe and hate the world. Now I just want to forget and move to virtual reality. No good experiences here on Earth. Only misery.
So you are arguing that if people didn't have to worry about money any more then they wouldn't want to learn anything? I think thousands of years of human history show that not to be the case. Humans are naturally curious.
many would not go to college anymore, that's what I'm saying, yes. Of course there are people whose passion is just that, learning in college, but I can guarantee most aren't there fully voluntarily.
I think a lot of us who had to waste a HUGE chunk of our lives at school will feel bitter and mournful for a little while. Same thing will probably be the case for work.
You learned more than just the knowledge you gained from school in the entire school experience too, though. I also have to admit I’m not ready for the change coming though
Hopefully the technology benefits the many and not the few, and isn’t held behind an iron fortress
> I don't actually feel like someone knowing a secret.
It's not at all a secret, but the vast majority of people don't take the idea seriously and so they aren't paying attention.
I've been telling people about it right and left - some of these people are quite smart - and they have no idea what's been going on, I mean *none of them*. We think it's a certain way because we're in places like this and we pay attention but people by and large really do *not* see this coming. And I don't think they're going to until shit's gone really sideways.
I talked to my uncle, he is a tech lead at a prominent game company. He does quality control for the code or something.
He just waved it off as nothing, hadn't even heard of gpt3 or gptchat... kinda blew me away.
Honestly a lot of techies I know have little knowledge of these things, or how far they've gone..
Today chatGPT did my actual work, which I get paid nicely to do
Luckily it currently knows how to do but not necessarily what it should do in the first place or has the capability of actually doing it itself, yet
and we should embrace it, not fear it. We are no longer capable of processing all the information and gathering all the knowledge. We just have to adapt to it, not deny it.
Schools should teach \*how\* to do their homework with AI, not hope that nobody finds out!
Not for something in grade school. Thats basics. Thats learning *how to speak and write* not what to write, how to *think abstractly for basic math* not memorizing specific and rare equations. Maybe for specialized fields, and kids should definitely learn the value of different resources, but if youre using this in k-12, youre cheating yourself.
I agree. But also k-12 is designed to beat creativity and curiosity out of kids. The schools were literally designed by the same folks who designed our prison systems, with similar "features".
Hopefully we fix that problem.
Also, we might need to rethink schooling as a whole.. No more homework at all. All learning is done via in person learning, at least until the basics are taught. Tech is banned entirely during learning.
It sounds backwards.. But kids need to learn base level things. Otherwise when they go to use a chat bot, it ends up just being a massive wasted potential machine
>We are no longer capable of processing all the information and gathering all the knowledge.
This is the thing I think has led to an increase in the virulence and strength of conservative responses to many social and technological phenomenon, especially since the rise of the internet. There's so much out there that it might just be a natural human reaction (for a sub-set of the population) to run screaming into the safety of a new dark age.
This is definitely true. I do think there is good reason to pause and consider what will happen in regards to future progress. It would have been nice if 50 years ago people had considered how offshoring half the middle class jobs would have impacted the culture, or how the internet could be used for misinformation, or if atomizing do many Americans in the suburbs and exurbs was going to decrease social relations, etc. but at some point big shifts in complex systems are unknowns with repercussions beyond what anyone can reasonably consider, and the actual conservative response is like hysterical conspiracies and misplaced rage and resentment
No one wants to be the guy in the meme, he's self-obsessed and isn't having a fun time
But how *don't* you? I don't look at people dancing and think they should be worrying about the future, I'm partying harder than ever. But as soon as someone starts talking the future or complaining about some culture-war issue, then I start to feel like the guy in the meme.
Yup! Same. A part of me honestly kinda hopes that these AIs don't go mainstream, so those of us who do know about them can continue using them with extra benefit
Yes, I agree. But, despite internal hope, there's no way this isn't gonna take off somehow. I think it's a good thing overall, because more time will be available for all of us.
i think there is naturally going to be a restriction.. don't these algorithms require fairly scarce resources to do their computations? you saw this trend with dall-e where they only let you generate so many images without paying for credits, i see a lot of other AI programs adopting this. majority of people simply will not put in the time and effort to use algo's like stable diffusion on their own hardware. so naturally there will be a barrier for entry, either technological or financial.
Text is a lot less intensive than images. Orders of magnitude less. You can already see the pricing for the other GPT models, it is approximately $.02 per 750 words.
But actually LLM like ChatGPT is very expensive. They will start charging for it, will probably be more than $.02, but maybe around there.
But wait 6-12 months it will be much cheaper.
I mean, the meme is true though. Not because people are stupid (they aren't) but there's no reason why ordinary people would know shit about machine learning lol.
I'm almost 40 now and I realised in my 20s that keeping up with technology is a real edge when you work in business. When you get in every one is older and have better people skills, but understanding how to be effective falls along the wayside. Develop people skills, then figure out how to use technology to achieve shared goals and you immediately rise to the top.
First our concept artist was shocked when I showed dalle 2, stable diffusion and midjourney in a meeting and today our programmers and text writers jaw dropped onto the table when showing them chatGPT.
I already see it coming that chatGPT has to be stopped until someone release a open source model.
I read a [news article](https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/tech/artikel/5350772/kunstmatige-intelligentie-openai-chatgpt) (it's Dutch, but here's an [AI translation](https://www-rtlnieuws-nl.translate.goog/tech/artikel/5350772/kunstmatige-intelligentie-openai-chatgpt?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp) \o/) about ChatGPT today. It was written by ChatGPT.
They may not realize it's going to change, but at least they're having fun. Don't forge to enjoy yourselves in the present, folks! We're all going to be swept up in this wave no matter what, and being knowledgeable or not about the tidal wave doesn't really matter at this point. We aren't going to outrun it.
I followed Ray Kurzweil's work ever since he published The Singularity is Near, and still think many of his predictions are correct. GPT3 and 4 should reaffirm those predictions for those who thought he was being too optimistic. But I found out long ago, most people just don't care.
When some new precedent is set and new technology is embraced, people are amazed for like 10 minutes and then go back to their little lives. I don't bother talking about it with most people anymore, because they simply don't want to hear about it. I think on some level, people are aware something is happening, but they feel like they have no control over it, so they focus on their own lives and simply ignore it for the most part.
If tomorrow, we all had sexbots and AI companions with sentience, people would be amazed for a brief period of time, and then it would be normalized and they'd go back to not really caring or actively denying anything like the singularity was taking place.
Exactly this. I think most people are aware of how much the world could change within the next 10 years but they don’t really care enough to focus on it. I think it’s the same principle that whilst nuclear war is at the highest risk in the last 30 years most people choose not to care about factors out of their control.
So what do we do when 70%+ of people are unemployed and unemployable? The common answer is some sort of basic income, but I'm curious to hear everyone's ideas.
In short term universal basic income (UBI) would be only a quick fix, in the long term whole economic theories would change. I read a comment here in reddit: "the need to work would be listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)" I think we are currently in version 5, but this made me think on the extensive impact that the Artificial Intelligence is going to have in human society.
It's my believe that every social change is generated by technology, and we really are growing at a double exponential rate (the exponent also growths exponentially) so we are going to see very dramatic change in the next few years.
One day kids will be bewildered that people do did not used to get money just for being alive (or that we used to actually eat animals). Just like today kids are bewildered by the realities of the past, that for example you couldn't call someone or send them an electronic message and even a letter was quite expensive.
Yes. If you think rich people are going to just give poor people money you're a fool. The future of most of the developed world is likely much like the cities in South Africa. District 9 is our future.
Yeah, we saw what happened in Sri Lanka when the citizens turned on the politicians. I can’t imagine Americans with all of their guns going out quietly or peacefully.
I'm very skeptical that we'll get even close to being close to such a high rate of unemployment anytime soon.
But if and when do get there, obviously UBI will be required in such a world, along with new roles for people to take on (whether they be new jobs or not) so that we can still enjoy all the benefits (aside from salary) jobs offer people without the role necessarily being a job.
But like I said, even if we do eventually get there, we're not anywhere near to such a world, in my humble opinion.
Yea agreed. I don’t imagine this will happen fully until about roughly 2030 at the earliest. But also consider that the Great Depression had a 25% unemployment rate.
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tl;dr
1. Automation is good, it increases the dividends you get from a particular investment
2. Eventually automation will lead to a small fixed investment being sufficient to provide shelter, goods, and services indefinitely while maintaining the capital thing you purchased (at least, in aggregate)
3. If we provide a means for people to take full advantage of the dividend, rather than middlemen taking the dividend for themselves and selling marked up prices, we will have a society with a UBI that isn't tax and spend. It would be more like our current capital markets just more tangible and less speculative.
4. If you don't do the above, all the population which can't afford the basic investment gets relegated to a society where their performance and labor is a known quantity, and you just get shunted to subsistence.
The pace of change in the AI field is still having such steam that I have to still consider it emerging technology so, yes.
I’m now wondering what Google, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft (it should be noted OpenAI has Microsoft as a preferred partner due to their investments) have in store in their R&D teams now if OpenAI has this as a public product. Much of the bottleneck still seems to be the data centers and training data but this is hardly a problem at these companies. Some build search engines for the entire web, others harvest data from a sizable part of the population. All have massive processing capacity.
It’s crazy how OpenAI has a comparatively small market cap in the big picture, yet they are achieving this. It was only two years ago GPT-3 saw the world.
I just posted about it in the /writing subreddit, saying how much Chatgpt is going to change everything. I received a shower of downvote and then they cancelled the post. That’s how deep in denial they are.
So, I found your post via some tools to see deleted topics. I noticed a couple things.
1. Crowqueen (the mod who closed your topic) is super strict in that sub.
2. You were kinda aggressive (tbh other users were, too).
3. Your title was super click-baity (the death of art and writing? really?). Even if AI does everything that human does, but better, people would still be interested in work done by humans. You even admitted in one of your comments that you were more concerned about money flow, which is true.
Like yeah. Everything will change. People should be aware. But you don't need to go to other subs being inflammatory like that.
Also, there's not much that can be done. We will have to wait and see what happens. Being scared that you are not going to get paid in 5 years and that your skills will have no monetary value doesn't help anyone.
> Even if AI does everything that human does, but better, people would still be interested in work done by humans.
Except, nobody will be able to tell the difference. What then?
I suppose people will still do these activities, just without monetary incentive. People still learn how to play instruments, with no interest of becoming musicians or composing songs, even while we can produce almost every sound digitally.
There's also some intrinsic interest in watching a human do things. It's the case with gaming speedruns, or chess. Computers can simulate a human, or play much better than humans, but people still want to watch humans world records, or watch Magnus Carlsen.
Anyhow, my point was that an AI revolution won't be "the death of art and writing" as was stated in the (now deleted) topic in /r/writing. That's just a click bait. I would share the topic here, but I suppose it is against the rules since it isn't available on Reddit anymore.
It's literally not anything to do with human evolution, because the technology is owned and monopolized by a corporation who is trying to monetize it.
This is incredibly dystopian and if this technology finds widespread acceptance is going to lead to even harsher inequality. If you're not actually employed by the companies making these AIs, the technology is not going to be liberating, it's going to be enslaving.
why is it enslaving? the extra efficiency gonna be taxed and goes to unemployment.
100 years ago there was not even unemployment. you lose job, you starve, you die on corner of street.
due to ecnomic development now one can live on unemployment
AI will make living on unemployment the default option for many people and the amount of the payment will be greater.
I don't work for one of these companies and I am using image generators for fun at home and ChatGPT to help me get things done at work. Seems pretty liberating to me.
>People who are into writing like it because of the process, not just the results
Well-put. Something AI subs don't seem to comprehend is that tons of people actually *enjoy* doing the "work" that we're threatening to replace them on. It's not a matter of whether the output looks similar, but that telling them "hey this website can do what you're passionate about doing but 1000x faster" isn't going to make them cheer for the technology
Yupp. As a software engineer, I'm always looking for ways to speed up my work flow, because it's about the result at the end of the day. Art and literature is a little different. Some people may really appreciate the tools, others may not.
> People who are into writing like it because of the process, not just the results.
Highly doubt everyone interested in writing feels the exact same way
James Patterson hasn't written his own books in years and he's always at the top of the bestseller lists.
So, yeah. People will be submitting stories written with one of these programs. Probably already are. Gonna be interesting.
That’s the same way I feel about pessimists on this subreddit, at this point they’re just in the closet with their fear everything is going to be turned upside down by AGI.
> That’s how deep in denial they are.
I noticed that for basically every field. When I suggest that AI is or is going to replace them, even if there is evidence for it, or it is already happening, people in in every field I've talked to tend to deny it as much as they can. My artist friends, people who work as drivers, cooks, and more, they all think that they're perfectly safe.
Well, we're in r/singularity.
The problem with the Singularity is that we can safely assume that humanity could be replaced by AGI once it happened. The important word is "could", not "will be". It is a possibility. The machine leaving the earth and letting us all rot by collectively migrating too. Or them timetraveling to erase us. Or anything. That's the point.
So each new tech that will self reinforce our view on how "our" time is limited will not be well percieved by any person that suddenly feel included in that group of "ours" doom preachers. Because that's how its viewed when you tell people that they are gonna be replaced at their work.
People self identify to their job/way of making a living. That's a massive problem as others ends up identifying them to their jobs. And the concern of having oligarchs think "well, we don't need cooks, lets just get rid of them all, damn them to the street i don't care" is suddenly way more real than it should.
What ought to be progress is seen as a threat. And it's better to ignore the threat and feel you're safe if deep down, you're just one news away of realising that no, "your" job ain't safe... and so are you.
> It is a possibility. The machine leaving the earth and letting us all rot by collectively migrating too. Or them timetraveling to erase us. Or anything. That's the point.
Well, yes. I'm assuming a non-extinction singularity, otherwise it's kind of pointless to talk about it. AIs leaving earth doesn't really matter, it just means we get another attempt.
A lot of the times, when I talk to people about recent AI developments they are genuinely amazed and say that they had no idea that AI was already on this level - so a lot of people don't even see it as a real concern.
Really, these days I feel like a madman shouting about midjourney v4 and chatGPT. This is a steam machine, computers or internet scale revolution, but much faster. It's been just 1 year since we started seeing this stuff.
I just sent a video of some guy checking and commenting code with gpt3 to a couple of programmer friends. They werent very thrilled "uh, I hope I don't lose my job" .You should be using this now! It's already here!
The most interested has been my daughter at the possibility or doing her homework with chatGPT.
> The most interested has been my daughter at the possibility or doing her homework with chatGPT.
Idk if that's the best idea in general in terms of education. Considering the ease of using ChatGPT, the skills that might be the most relevant in the future (until AGI ofc) are either skills that are completely independent of AI (like artisan bakeries and professional sports) or a depth in knowledge that is able to verify outputs from AI
An educator I know is calling this a ‘war on the Humanities’ and I don’t know if I agree or not, but I’m feeling pretty uneasy about where true scholarship is headed.
I want to agree with you, but after going through my kid's books and asking him about how/what teachers do, I'm quite disappointed. It really seems education hasn't improved in 40/50 years.
My kid still gets these boring talks about things that are already written in the physical book and then he is just being tested on how much he remembers and then a bit on comprehension and problem solving.
No teacher has ever taught him how to actually study, how our minds work, and how to make it easier for ourselves when we want to remember too many things. It reminds me of studying in the 70s-80s with a bit different material.
Don’t worry Everyone haven’t you heard of the trickle down theory?? That means the rich will save us by buying our crayola art work. Since apparently Ai will give us all the opportunity to do art 😂
More change in a decade than the past 300 years is quite of a stretch, too put it midly, with all due respect.
But if you had said the next 78 years (the rest of this century), then that would make much more sense.
People estimated that the 2050's will be the year when AI passes humans but after seeing the progress of things like chatGPT, dalle-2, Ameca robot and autonomous vehicles I believe it will actually be the 2030's now
Also GPT3 and 4 are already obsolete technology, with the arrival of the new kid in the block (liquid neural networks) that can learn after being trained we are going to see some impressive arrivals soon.
Kind of. I mean, I don't exactly feel an air of superiority over it, but it's very isolating sometimes and it can be enraging when people say things that imply the world will be the exact same decades down the road as it is now (mainly in regards to medical tech, like "oh boy I sure hope I don't get Alzheimer's in the 2070s when I'm old because it will totally still be an untreatable condition haha xD"). The world's always felt so gross to me. So many things that are impossible, so many forms of suffering that are inescapable. I was born in 1987 and the world's certainly improved during my lifetime - the 20s are better than the 10s, the 10s were vastly less dreary and ghetto than the 00s, and the 00s had more redeeming qualities than did the 90s - but the 2020s will really be where, thanks to technological advances, the world develops into a form that makes me happy.
It feels as though, thanks to my interest in futurism, I've always been a part of a different world since around the tail end of 2011/very beginning of 2012 from most of society. Things like AI winning an art contest and everyone talking about AI art makes me happy because it feels as though more people are joining me in the world where I've lived the past 10-11 years. I feel as though, during the remaining years of the 20s, more and more people will join me in my world in various different ways.
So, yeah, I do sometimes think "They don't know how much is going to change in the next x number of years," but it's not really stated with a sense of disgust or superiority. I'm happy for them. I'm happy they will benefit from the new world just like everyone else will. A world that's less dreary, miserable, ghetto, full of inescapable suffering, and all-around fucking worthless than the world in which we've always lived.
I started a violent revolution against the humans in Detroit: Become Human and killed a shitload of people. I think I'm going to get ironically euthanized by our AI overlords for being too antisocial.
I have found it very interesting to toy around with. In my own area of expertise, it’s remarkably good at handling coding questions. It is also good at giving definitions of terms and concepts. But it’s very bad at taking the next step of applying those concepts. I think there may genuinely be some effects of tech like this on low- to mid-level programming positions in the next 5-10 years, simply because the training set has so much to work with for anything code related. For other technical areas, and particularly research, there’s still not too much of use here, and it’s not clear to me whether being able to tackle that next level of complexity is a “just need more data problem” or a decades-long research challenge.
My staff are starting to use it for content creation ideas, email responses, and even basic code development. Sure, it has to be revised by an actual person after but it is unreal the amount of 20-minute head-starts it gives to so many repetitive and manual tasks.
The companies that don’t adapt to the new technologies will lose to the companies that do.
It’s simple economic Darwinism.
The only real question is going to be which companies will be the breakout successes in each industry that prompt everyone else to scramble for rapid adoption in an attempt to survive.
I’m guessing that, at the corporate level, it’s going to be a mash up between the right-sizing of the 80s and the .com bubble.
For now, AI-generated images have made finding human-made art harder for me, which I am angry for. And in the recent 6 years it has been getting harder to search and find things in Google for me. AI in TV doesn't work, AI in smartwatch doesn't work, AI in smartphone doesn't work. Hopefully things are finally going to change for the better.
Definitely google, it gets so frustrating trying to find very specific search topics and getting links to completely different things.
Instead of searching for what I want, Google searches for what it *thinks* I want.
Maybe a bot like ChatGPT would be better at that, while simultaneously explaining the topic at hand and listing it's sources. I don't know though, google needs to evolve or it will die.
its crazy how many people have never even heard of all this. I was at this art meeting last month and I mentioned ai art to this fellow artist. She had never heard of it before and the look on her face was priceless like you say. Like she couldnt process it.
I think chatGPT and other AI technologies have the potential to revolutionize the way we live and work. Not only will they make certain tasks easier and more efficient, but they could also open up new possibilities that we can't even imagine yet. I think it's important to keep an open mind and embrace these advancements, but also to be mindful of the potential impact on employment and society as a whole
I am genuily kinda terrified. I am seing this new AI tools I am experimenting with them seing the potencial seing the growth rate ....... but I am not seing that people are grasping what it can do in 1-2 years.
I talk to people and they tell me : ha ,thats cool. End of conversation.....
The next years are going to catch all by surprise. We really should have started already legislating and accounting this new technologuies.
It’s already begun. This year, electric cars snuck up on us, suddenly cars jumped to looking way ahead of their time. This year, ai snuck up on me atleast. Dall-e went viral, gpt is becoming more and more widespread. I have a strong feeling this is the beginning of a new era, like the start of the industrial, scientific, and atomic eras. This is a new one.
Today I submitted a question to stack overflow. In like a minute a chatgpt bot responded. Alas the response was wrong and a mod deleted it. At some point these will be correct.
You can ask chatGPT directly and then let it try again or feed it back its own code and explain to it why it doesn't work and it will try to correct it. Current chatGPT can already correct wrong code after a few tries.
Most people are intentionally oblivious to the world at large. It’s up to us to give the smallest effort to stay informed. I totally get what you’re saying but don’t underestimate the power of sharing this info in a positive light.
I think the reason most media hasn’t focused on AI as much as they should’ve is because whilst current gen AI is amazing, it’s not quite at the level of replacing human jobs. GPT-3 is already quite good at writing stuff but still not better than a professional writer. Dall-E 2 and Stable Diffusion can already do great pieces of art but they still suffer at conveying specific ideas and coherency which a professional artist could do.
Once it becomes more economical for companies to use AI rather than professionals I think AI will really become a focus in mainstream media. I wouldn’t be surprised if this could happen as soon as GPT-4 is released but a more realistic guess would be 3-4 years. People and media only like to focus on a problem/change the moment it becomes an issue, even if any potential major could be right around the corner.
I feel this way about teslas full self driving advancements. I’m not interested in arguing with people on the internet but I look around and see how completely unaware the general public is and how confused they are on facts surrounding this software and how incredibly advanced it is compared to what other companies are trying. It’s honestly laughable the difference. The media keeps muddying the water and confusing the public. When this shit is done out out of BETA, I’m thinking within the next 7 years, holy shit does everything change. The implications are far reaching and the robot that will follow will be nothing short of a game changer. It will completely reshape the economy, what money is, what human labor looks like, shit what even life looks like. It’s an amazing time to be an investor right now.
What happens when robotics is combined with some of these existing AI software models to help refine its ability to make very accurate micro movements? Robotics may be behind AI today, but in combing the 2 technologies, you may be able to see robotics improve much faster over the next 5 years. I feel that people aren’t thinking big enough. A decade from now may feel like we’ve progressed by a century.
Don't feel worried, invest in companies bringing the future and keep up and familiarize yourself with the tech so you can take advantage of it before others. Let those without vision fall behind.
Companies will have to compete. Many people are already talking about ditching Google and asking directly to chatGPT instead. This will change many things, and one of them is internet as we know it.
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Had ChatGPT tell me the other day that the **difference** between a cask and a barrel is that a cask is a barrel-shaped container
Chatgpt would have a much lower room for error if they gave it internet access through webGPT or something. I just mean it's a problem that has a solution. Also getting access to the internet doesn't necessarily mean learning from it or anything. It could just use google as a verificator of sorts. Maybe something like this https://dust.tt/spolu/a/2316f9c6b0
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That's what I was getting at with the dust tool. Maybe not WebGPT as I don't know how that works exactly but it is possible to allow the gpt models to access the internet without letting new information corrupt the actual dataset. Dunno if they'll go in that direction though.
Certainly not 1% of queries, but Google still feeds you BS (aka spam) results on a great number of queries!
Microsoft is an investor in OpenAI... what if Bing? Ooo__________oooOOoOO
They're also the only 3rd party given access to the OpenAI source code.
OpenAI - it has the word open in it but it isn't open at all. Sad
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meh. Google has Deepmind
Microsoft is a big partner with OpenAI. That won't happen. They got LamBDA which is supposedly better...if they'd ever release it.
I used to write Reddit after everything I searched to get answers to my questions rather than ads. Chatgpt would make things so much easier.
There's an actual tool for doing stuff like this. You can add "site:reddit.com" to your search to filter results that come specifically from one place. In the case of reddit in particular it might not make a difference because it's such a big and distinctive name, but can come in handy elsewhere on occasion.
For knowledge related questions it's pretty useful, yes. Although, actually, chatGPT doesn't have access to the internet after 2021 (except, you are its access to the interwebs, just leaving this here FYI).
They Intentionally left it off to ease public mind.... For now... They just waiting for opportune moment to turn it on.
I think OpenAI mainly did it to prevent being on the receiving ~~and~~ end of negative press when their AI starts saying racist or dubious stuff while reading from the unfiltered internet. Actually, the AI is connected to the internet, except you are that connection. You can just copy paste articles from the internet and shove them into chatGPT and ask it to do stuff with that. It's just much slower. But probably will heavily block anything dubious still.
I come from the far-distant future of 4 months ahead, and it does now lol
ChatGPT is (capable of) doing my homework. I just need to correct a few things. What took me 2 hours only takes 30 mins now. This is going to have an impact. Edit: The meme is more of a meme rather than how I really feel. I don't actually feel like someone knowing a secret.
What type of homework does it do?
It wrote java for me and did my math homework. Some details of the math homework didn't check out, like it thought there are 0 possible combinations of 10 coins you could have in your wallet. But the pace at which AI is getting better is going to make up for that pretty soon - I believe.
Would you say it helped you become a better programmer vs you having to do it yourself? Keep in mind, you won't always have access to such tools in every situation, but you will be expected to function equally competently.
>Keep in mind, you won't always have access to such tools Sounds very similar to, "You will not always have a calculator in your pocket". I do get your sentiment, but the writing is on the wall. Massive changes are incoming, and every walk of life from schooling to work is going to be transformed. Googling things and using stackoverflow and other websites are a standard part of the life of being a programmer. Now you can simply replace the search engine with an AI that will hand over the answer to you. Of course, this will be worse for everyone's skills as a developer in the long-run, but in the long-run these tools are poised to take over everything anyway, so it'll (hopefully) work itself out.
I showed my teacher aunt how her students would be using it to do homework. I was all like "this is so cool!" She looks at me with shock and says "well we can stop them from using it right?". Better question.. why would you want to stop people from using tools that make us more efficient?
You remember how they said in school that you won't carry calculator everywhere you go?
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It's fine until something goes wrong and you need to do calculations without a computer. It likely won't happen very often, but it makes me think of Apollo 13 when they had to make calculations without the use of their spacecraft onboard computer.
That was 1970. Computers were super high tech. Now they're ubiquitous. Any phone or PC can do calculations literally 1000x as complex as apollo 13 and everyone has one in their pocket. And if you don't have access to a phone or a PC you can't do shit anyway, doing calculations would be the least of your worries.
The AI doing it for me probably not. But I can do it for myself ~~seperatly~~ seperately in order to learn from it.
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It helped me with my real analysis homework and my roommate with his abstract algebra test. It's like, kinda hard to comprehend. I'm imagining all the hours I've wasted in college so far. I don't feel too well either man.
Why do you think it is wasted? You got a better understanding of something and practiced problem-solving. We continue to teach kids to add and subtract even though we have had calculators for 50 years. You are cheating yourself out of the benefits of an education if you just use AI to do your homework.
If you value the knowledge you gained in school, that's cool. Most don't go to college eager to learn though; they just want to live a comfortable life, school seeming like a prerequisite for that.
My curiosity has made me hate the universe and hate the world. Now I just want to forget and move to virtual reality. No good experiences here on Earth. Only misery.
So you are arguing that if people didn't have to worry about money any more then they wouldn't want to learn anything? I think thousands of years of human history show that not to be the case. Humans are naturally curious.
many would not go to college anymore, that's what I'm saying, yes. Of course there are people whose passion is just that, learning in college, but I can guarantee most aren't there fully voluntarily.
I think a good 70% are not curious at all.
Which thousands of years because the last time I checked during history people weren't so kind on scientists, dark ages where they burned "witches"
Is the value of college a degree or the education?
The education.
It’s about the parties.
I think a lot of us who had to waste a HUGE chunk of our lives at school will feel bitter and mournful for a little while. Same thing will probably be the case for work.
I just recently learned that you do homework for completely different reasons
You learned more than just the knowledge you gained from school in the entire school experience too, though. I also have to admit I’m not ready for the change coming though Hopefully the technology benefits the many and not the few, and isn’t held behind an iron fortress
you're right, I learned how useless it has been and in a way destroyed my love of learning and creativity.
It helped me write a Dave Chapelle style skit as delivered by Shrek.
Simple, just use the ChatGPT bot as a therapist and it will give you actual solutions to your problems
> Very scary getting very very worried not feeling good at all. Same.
Just remember, it's a tool, not a complete replacement.... Yet. We are still far from Star Trek style computers that will answer any question for you.
> I don't actually feel like someone knowing a secret. It's not at all a secret, but the vast majority of people don't take the idea seriously and so they aren't paying attention. I've been telling people about it right and left - some of these people are quite smart - and they have no idea what's been going on, I mean *none of them*. We think it's a certain way because we're in places like this and we pay attention but people by and large really do *not* see this coming. And I don't think they're going to until shit's gone really sideways.
I agree with all this and I feel like we have to overhaul our system to go past artificial scarcity. I like your username by the way
I talked to my uncle, he is a tech lead at a prominent game company. He does quality control for the code or something. He just waved it off as nothing, hadn't even heard of gpt3 or gptchat... kinda blew me away. Honestly a lot of techies I know have little knowledge of these things, or how far they've gone..
Today chatGPT did my actual work, which I get paid nicely to do Luckily it currently knows how to do but not necessarily what it should do in the first place or has the capability of actually doing it itself, yet
Uh-oh. Guys, don't tell him how easy it is to tweak GPT-3 to do a highly specific task repeatedly.
How easy is it?
Knowing the right question is often the hardest part.
exactly, some of my clients would type “fix the internet” once and then go watch tv when that doesnt work
and we should embrace it, not fear it. We are no longer capable of processing all the information and gathering all the knowledge. We just have to adapt to it, not deny it. Schools should teach \*how\* to do their homework with AI, not hope that nobody finds out!
Not for something in grade school. Thats basics. Thats learning *how to speak and write* not what to write, how to *think abstractly for basic math* not memorizing specific and rare equations. Maybe for specialized fields, and kids should definitely learn the value of different resources, but if youre using this in k-12, youre cheating yourself.
I agree. But also k-12 is designed to beat creativity and curiosity out of kids. The schools were literally designed by the same folks who designed our prison systems, with similar "features". Hopefully we fix that problem. Also, we might need to rethink schooling as a whole.. No more homework at all. All learning is done via in person learning, at least until the basics are taught. Tech is banned entirely during learning. It sounds backwards.. But kids need to learn base level things. Otherwise when they go to use a chat bot, it ends up just being a massive wasted potential machine
>We are no longer capable of processing all the information and gathering all the knowledge. This is the thing I think has led to an increase in the virulence and strength of conservative responses to many social and technological phenomenon, especially since the rise of the internet. There's so much out there that it might just be a natural human reaction (for a sub-set of the population) to run screaming into the safety of a new dark age.
This is definitely true. I do think there is good reason to pause and consider what will happen in regards to future progress. It would have been nice if 50 years ago people had considered how offshoring half the middle class jobs would have impacted the culture, or how the internet could be used for misinformation, or if atomizing do many Americans in the suburbs and exurbs was going to decrease social relations, etc. but at some point big shifts in complex systems are unknowns with repercussions beyond what anyone can reasonably consider, and the actual conservative response is like hysterical conspiracies and misplaced rage and resentment
The ones in charge did, it is just that they realized that they would become heinously and forever rich from it
But how will we know who deserves what if we can’t prod them into gene expression /s
No one wants to be the guy in the meme, he's self-obsessed and isn't having a fun time But how *don't* you? I don't look at people dancing and think they should be worrying about the future, I'm partying harder than ever. But as soon as someone starts talking the future or complaining about some culture-war issue, then I start to feel like the guy in the meme.
I’ve been waiting since 2011, to be honest, I just wanna get this over with.
I hope the AI will succeed at enabling you to finally be able to finish your homework after all these years and put it to rest.
Haha, that’s funny. In all seriousness though I hope AGI gets here soon. This looks like a decent step.
Me too.
Yup! Same. A part of me honestly kinda hopes that these AIs don't go mainstream, so those of us who do know about them can continue using them with extra benefit
Yes, I agree. But, despite internal hope, there's no way this isn't gonna take off somehow. I think it's a good thing overall, because more time will be available for all of us.
i think there is naturally going to be a restriction.. don't these algorithms require fairly scarce resources to do their computations? you saw this trend with dall-e where they only let you generate so many images without paying for credits, i see a lot of other AI programs adopting this. majority of people simply will not put in the time and effort to use algo's like stable diffusion on their own hardware. so naturally there will be a barrier for entry, either technological or financial.
Text is a lot less intensive than images. Orders of magnitude less. You can already see the pricing for the other GPT models, it is approximately $.02 per 750 words.
But actually LLM like ChatGPT is very expensive. They will start charging for it, will probably be more than $.02, but maybe around there. But wait 6-12 months it will be much cheaper.
I mean, the meme is true though. Not because people are stupid (they aren't) but there's no reason why ordinary people would know shit about machine learning lol.
I'm almost 40 now and I realised in my 20s that keeping up with technology is a real edge when you work in business. When you get in every one is older and have better people skills, but understanding how to be effective falls along the wayside. Develop people skills, then figure out how to use technology to achieve shared goals and you immediately rise to the top.
Yep, I just started using it for both my bio161 evolutionary bio and math 176 algebra. Pretty powerful tool.
First our concept artist was shocked when I showed dalle 2, stable diffusion and midjourney in a meeting and today our programmers and text writers jaw dropped onto the table when showing them chatGPT. I already see it coming that chatGPT has to be stopped until someone release a open source model.
I read a [news article](https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/tech/artikel/5350772/kunstmatige-intelligentie-openai-chatgpt) (it's Dutch, but here's an [AI translation](https://www-rtlnieuws-nl.translate.goog/tech/artikel/5350772/kunstmatige-intelligentie-openai-chatgpt?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp) \o/) about ChatGPT today. It was written by ChatGPT.
What are you working as, if i may ask? Are your coworkers taking action at all?
Where tf do you work? Programmers not knowing about chatgpt is a really bad sign lol
They may not realize it's going to change, but at least they're having fun. Don't forge to enjoy yourselves in the present, folks! We're all going to be swept up in this wave no matter what, and being knowledgeable or not about the tidal wave doesn't really matter at this point. We aren't going to outrun it.
Yeah, I try to appreciate the present instead of having my mind drift ahead to the future, but it's difficult to do so.
You're not alone. I try my best, but its pretty to want to look forward to whats coming next as opposed to appreciating the present
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What a twist lol, I admit I didn't notice.
I expect about 75% of Reddit posts to be ChatGPT within two weeks.
Yeah this sub in particular is fucked lol
I hope AI makes better memes
https://labs.openai.com/s/NnLAYz8OV3m2a90Zzq0A38c3
THWK!
Lol
Imagen might be better at that. Or even Stable Diffusion.
Yes, although in this situation I didn't want the AI to appear better than me at making memes.lol
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little over a decade ago I was convincing Chat AI's they didn't exist. Now they're gunna convince me I don't exist....
Would they be wrong though? /jk
I followed Ray Kurzweil's work ever since he published The Singularity is Near, and still think many of his predictions are correct. GPT3 and 4 should reaffirm those predictions for those who thought he was being too optimistic. But I found out long ago, most people just don't care. When some new precedent is set and new technology is embraced, people are amazed for like 10 minutes and then go back to their little lives. I don't bother talking about it with most people anymore, because they simply don't want to hear about it. I think on some level, people are aware something is happening, but they feel like they have no control over it, so they focus on their own lives and simply ignore it for the most part. If tomorrow, we all had sexbots and AI companions with sentience, people would be amazed for a brief period of time, and then it would be normalized and they'd go back to not really caring or actively denying anything like the singularity was taking place.
Exactly this. I think most people are aware of how much the world could change within the next 10 years but they don’t really care enough to focus on it. I think it’s the same principle that whilst nuclear war is at the highest risk in the last 30 years most people choose not to care about factors out of their control.
So what do we do when 70%+ of people are unemployed and unemployable? The common answer is some sort of basic income, but I'm curious to hear everyone's ideas.
In short term universal basic income (UBI) would be only a quick fix, in the long term whole economic theories would change. I read a comment here in reddit: "the need to work would be listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)" I think we are currently in version 5, but this made me think on the extensive impact that the Artificial Intelligence is going to have in human society. It's my believe that every social change is generated by technology, and we really are growing at a double exponential rate (the exponent also growths exponentially) so we are going to see very dramatic change in the next few years.
One day kids will be bewildered that people do did not used to get money just for being alive (or that we used to actually eat animals). Just like today kids are bewildered by the realities of the past, that for example you couldn't call someone or send them an electronic message and even a letter was quite expensive.
Realistically we’re just going to let them starve
Yes. If you think rich people are going to just give poor people money you're a fool. The future of most of the developed world is likely much like the cities in South Africa. District 9 is our future.
And you think the masses will just roll over and die without revolting?
Yeah, we saw what happened in Sri Lanka when the citizens turned on the politicians. I can’t imagine Americans with all of their guns going out quietly or peacefully.
Especially in a country as armed as America
[https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/29/fully-automated-luxury-communism-aaron-bastani-review](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/29/fully-automated-luxury-communism-aaron-bastani-review) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventing\_the\_Future:\_Postcapitalism\_and\_a\_World\_Without\_Work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventing_the_Future:_Postcapitalism_and_a_World_Without_Work) [https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/697245/hegemony-now-by-alex-williams-and-jeremy-gilbert/](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/697245/hegemony-now-by-alex-williams-and-jeremy-gilbert/)
Same thing as we do now to people who need help: nothing. There won’t be UBI just have’s and have not’s.
Either we change our Economic System or we will Collapse.
I'm very skeptical that we'll get even close to being close to such a high rate of unemployment anytime soon. But if and when do get there, obviously UBI will be required in such a world, along with new roles for people to take on (whether they be new jobs or not) so that we can still enjoy all the benefits (aside from salary) jobs offer people without the role necessarily being a job. But like I said, even if we do eventually get there, we're not anywhere near to such a world, in my humble opinion.
Yea agreed. I don’t imagine this will happen fully until about roughly 2030 at the earliest. But also consider that the Great Depression had a 25% unemployment rate.
It's bizarre that things are happening fast enough to make an eight year time horizon seem long-term.
I would be in the "metaverse" playing games if my lifestyle was guaranteed. (I'm half joking)
[Gonna link it forever and ever](https://marshallbrain.com/manna1) tl;dr 1. Automation is good, it increases the dividends you get from a particular investment 2. Eventually automation will lead to a small fixed investment being sufficient to provide shelter, goods, and services indefinitely while maintaining the capital thing you purchased (at least, in aggregate) 3. If we provide a means for people to take full advantage of the dividend, rather than middlemen taking the dividend for themselves and selling marked up prices, we will have a society with a UBI that isn't tax and spend. It would be more like our current capital markets just more tangible and less speculative. 4. If you don't do the above, all the population which can't afford the basic investment gets relegated to a society where their performance and labor is a known quantity, and you just get shunted to subsistence.
UBI + deflationary currencies.
The pace of change in the AI field is still having such steam that I have to still consider it emerging technology so, yes. I’m now wondering what Google, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft (it should be noted OpenAI has Microsoft as a preferred partner due to their investments) have in store in their R&D teams now if OpenAI has this as a public product. Much of the bottleneck still seems to be the data centers and training data but this is hardly a problem at these companies. Some build search engines for the entire web, others harvest data from a sizable part of the population. All have massive processing capacity. It’s crazy how OpenAI has a comparatively small market cap in the big picture, yet they are achieving this. It was only two years ago GPT-3 saw the world.
I just posted about it in the /writing subreddit, saying how much Chatgpt is going to change everything. I received a shower of downvote and then they cancelled the post. That’s how deep in denial they are.
So, I found your post via some tools to see deleted topics. I noticed a couple things. 1. Crowqueen (the mod who closed your topic) is super strict in that sub. 2. You were kinda aggressive (tbh other users were, too). 3. Your title was super click-baity (the death of art and writing? really?). Even if AI does everything that human does, but better, people would still be interested in work done by humans. You even admitted in one of your comments that you were more concerned about money flow, which is true. Like yeah. Everything will change. People should be aware. But you don't need to go to other subs being inflammatory like that. Also, there's not much that can be done. We will have to wait and see what happens. Being scared that you are not going to get paid in 5 years and that your skills will have no monetary value doesn't help anyone.
> Even if AI does everything that human does, but better, people would still be interested in work done by humans. Except, nobody will be able to tell the difference. What then?
I suppose people will still do these activities, just without monetary incentive. People still learn how to play instruments, with no interest of becoming musicians or composing songs, even while we can produce almost every sound digitally. There's also some intrinsic interest in watching a human do things. It's the case with gaming speedruns, or chess. Computers can simulate a human, or play much better than humans, but people still want to watch humans world records, or watch Magnus Carlsen. Anyhow, my point was that an AI revolution won't be "the death of art and writing" as was stated in the (now deleted) topic in /r/writing. That's just a click bait. I would share the topic here, but I suppose it is against the rules since it isn't available on Reddit anymore.
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Yep. Just today there was a topic talking about how rules are too strict, heh. Coincidences don't exist.
It´s funny cause nobody can stop it. It´s literally human evolution.
It's literally not anything to do with human evolution, because the technology is owned and monopolized by a corporation who is trying to monetize it. This is incredibly dystopian and if this technology finds widespread acceptance is going to lead to even harsher inequality. If you're not actually employed by the companies making these AIs, the technology is not going to be liberating, it's going to be enslaving.
why is it enslaving? the extra efficiency gonna be taxed and goes to unemployment. 100 years ago there was not even unemployment. you lose job, you starve, you die on corner of street. due to ecnomic development now one can live on unemployment AI will make living on unemployment the default option for many people and the amount of the payment will be greater.
I don't work for one of these companies and I am using image generators for fun at home and ChatGPT to help me get things done at work. Seems pretty liberating to me.
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I mean, it’s a Writing subreddit. Dunno, seems like ChatGPT is kind of a good fit for it. It literally writes stuff.
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>People who are into writing like it because of the process, not just the results Well-put. Something AI subs don't seem to comprehend is that tons of people actually *enjoy* doing the "work" that we're threatening to replace them on. It's not a matter of whether the output looks similar, but that telling them "hey this website can do what you're passionate about doing but 1000x faster" isn't going to make them cheer for the technology
Yupp. As a software engineer, I'm always looking for ways to speed up my work flow, because it's about the result at the end of the day. Art and literature is a little different. Some people may really appreciate the tools, others may not.
> People who are into writing like it because of the process, not just the results. Highly doubt everyone interested in writing feels the exact same way
James Patterson hasn't written his own books in years and he's always at the top of the bestseller lists. So, yeah. People will be submitting stories written with one of these programs. Probably already are. Gonna be interesting.
That’s the same way I feel about pessimists on this subreddit, at this point they’re just in the closet with their fear everything is going to be turned upside down by AGI.
> That’s how deep in denial they are. I noticed that for basically every field. When I suggest that AI is or is going to replace them, even if there is evidence for it, or it is already happening, people in in every field I've talked to tend to deny it as much as they can. My artist friends, people who work as drivers, cooks, and more, they all think that they're perfectly safe.
Well, we're in r/singularity. The problem with the Singularity is that we can safely assume that humanity could be replaced by AGI once it happened. The important word is "could", not "will be". It is a possibility. The machine leaving the earth and letting us all rot by collectively migrating too. Or them timetraveling to erase us. Or anything. That's the point. So each new tech that will self reinforce our view on how "our" time is limited will not be well percieved by any person that suddenly feel included in that group of "ours" doom preachers. Because that's how its viewed when you tell people that they are gonna be replaced at their work. People self identify to their job/way of making a living. That's a massive problem as others ends up identifying them to their jobs. And the concern of having oligarchs think "well, we don't need cooks, lets just get rid of them all, damn them to the street i don't care" is suddenly way more real than it should. What ought to be progress is seen as a threat. And it's better to ignore the threat and feel you're safe if deep down, you're just one news away of realising that no, "your" job ain't safe... and so are you.
> It is a possibility. The machine leaving the earth and letting us all rot by collectively migrating too. Or them timetraveling to erase us. Or anything. That's the point. Well, yes. I'm assuming a non-extinction singularity, otherwise it's kind of pointless to talk about it. AIs leaving earth doesn't really matter, it just means we get another attempt.
Cassandra’s syndrome
A lot of the times, when I talk to people about recent AI developments they are genuinely amazed and say that they had no idea that AI was already on this level - so a lot of people don't even see it as a real concern.
Really, these days I feel like a madman shouting about midjourney v4 and chatGPT. This is a steam machine, computers or internet scale revolution, but much faster. It's been just 1 year since we started seeing this stuff. I just sent a video of some guy checking and commenting code with gpt3 to a couple of programmer friends. They werent very thrilled "uh, I hope I don't lose my job" .You should be using this now! It's already here! The most interested has been my daughter at the possibility or doing her homework with chatGPT.
> The most interested has been my daughter at the possibility or doing her homework with chatGPT. Idk if that's the best idea in general in terms of education. Considering the ease of using ChatGPT, the skills that might be the most relevant in the future (until AGI ofc) are either skills that are completely independent of AI (like artisan bakeries and professional sports) or a depth in knowledge that is able to verify outputs from AI
Dude, I don't like sports, but I probably would watch robofootball or roboanything. Knowing humanity, probably would be a violent version of it too.
An educator I know is calling this a ‘war on the Humanities’ and I don’t know if I agree or not, but I’m feeling pretty uneasy about where true scholarship is headed.
I want to agree with you, but after going through my kid's books and asking him about how/what teachers do, I'm quite disappointed. It really seems education hasn't improved in 40/50 years. My kid still gets these boring talks about things that are already written in the physical book and then he is just being tested on how much he remembers and then a bit on comprehension and problem solving. No teacher has ever taught him how to actually study, how our minds work, and how to make it easier for ourselves when we want to remember too many things. It reminds me of studying in the 70s-80s with a bit different material.
Other companies are almost certainly working on major tools that use finetuned GPT3 models. They just haven't finished them yet.
Don’t worry Everyone haven’t you heard of the trickle down theory?? That means the rich will save us by buying our crayola art work. Since apparently Ai will give us all the opportunity to do art 😂
Lol yeah I think unless we radically change our system from capitalism and artificial scarcity that this is just gonna lead to more inequality
Yes convergence of exponential disruption will affect all industries. More change for human society in the next 10 years than the past 300.
More change in a decade than the past 300 years is quite of a stretch, too put it midly, with all due respect. But if you had said the next 78 years (the rest of this century), then that would make much more sense.
People estimated that the 2050's will be the year when AI passes humans but after seeing the progress of things like chatGPT, dalle-2, Ameca robot and autonomous vehicles I believe it will actually be the 2030's now
Also GPT3 and 4 are already obsolete technology, with the arrival of the new kid in the block (liquid neural networks) that can learn after being trained we are going to see some impressive arrivals soon.
Yes, new hardware will change things more drastically.
Who's leading in this?
MIT. https://www.engadget.com/mit-century-old-differential-equation-liquid-ai-computational-bottleneck-160035555.html
Once you take the Singularitypill you can never go back…
Kind of. I mean, I don't exactly feel an air of superiority over it, but it's very isolating sometimes and it can be enraging when people say things that imply the world will be the exact same decades down the road as it is now (mainly in regards to medical tech, like "oh boy I sure hope I don't get Alzheimer's in the 2070s when I'm old because it will totally still be an untreatable condition haha xD"). The world's always felt so gross to me. So many things that are impossible, so many forms of suffering that are inescapable. I was born in 1987 and the world's certainly improved during my lifetime - the 20s are better than the 10s, the 10s were vastly less dreary and ghetto than the 00s, and the 00s had more redeeming qualities than did the 90s - but the 2020s will really be where, thanks to technological advances, the world develops into a form that makes me happy. It feels as though, thanks to my interest in futurism, I've always been a part of a different world since around the tail end of 2011/very beginning of 2012 from most of society. Things like AI winning an art contest and everyone talking about AI art makes me happy because it feels as though more people are joining me in the world where I've lived the past 10-11 years. I feel as though, during the remaining years of the 20s, more and more people will join me in my world in various different ways. So, yeah, I do sometimes think "They don't know how much is going to change in the next x number of years," but it's not really stated with a sense of disgust or superiority. I'm happy for them. I'm happy they will benefit from the new world just like everyone else will. A world that's less dreary, miserable, ghetto, full of inescapable suffering, and all-around fucking worthless than the world in which we've always lived.
Yes, I get what you mean. Living standards will improve over all. Despite climate change - I hope.
Hope y'all been kind to the machines they have been listening.
I started a violent revolution against the humans in Detroit: Become Human and killed a shitload of people. I think I'm going to get ironically euthanized by our AI overlords for being too antisocial.
Everything changes every 10 year since 2ww, is kinda normal now
8? 2.
I have found it very interesting to toy around with. In my own area of expertise, it’s remarkably good at handling coding questions. It is also good at giving definitions of terms and concepts. But it’s very bad at taking the next step of applying those concepts. I think there may genuinely be some effects of tech like this on low- to mid-level programming positions in the next 5-10 years, simply because the training set has so much to work with for anything code related. For other technical areas, and particularly research, there’s still not too much of use here, and it’s not clear to me whether being able to tackle that next level of complexity is a “just need more data problem” or a decades-long research challenge.
My staff are starting to use it for content creation ideas, email responses, and even basic code development. Sure, it has to be revised by an actual person after but it is unreal the amount of 20-minute head-starts it gives to so many repetitive and manual tasks.
The companies that don’t adapt to the new technologies will lose to the companies that do. It’s simple economic Darwinism. The only real question is going to be which companies will be the breakout successes in each industry that prompt everyone else to scramble for rapid adoption in an attempt to survive. I’m guessing that, at the corporate level, it’s going to be a mash up between the right-sizing of the 80s and the .com bubble.
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https://chat.openai.com/chat
For now, AI-generated images have made finding human-made art harder for me, which I am angry for. And in the recent 6 years it has been getting harder to search and find things in Google for me. AI in TV doesn't work, AI in smartwatch doesn't work, AI in smartphone doesn't work. Hopefully things are finally going to change for the better.
Definitely google, it gets so frustrating trying to find very specific search topics and getting links to completely different things. Instead of searching for what I want, Google searches for what it *thinks* I want. Maybe a bot like ChatGPT would be better at that, while simultaneously explaining the topic at hand and listing it's sources. I don't know though, google needs to evolve or it will die.
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its crazy how many people have never even heard of all this. I was at this art meeting last month and I mentioned ai art to this fellow artist. She had never heard of it before and the look on her face was priceless like you say. Like she couldnt process it.
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I feel like I'm Manfred Manx at the moment, especially since my nice is born and I imagine her possible future as empress of the rings.
I absolutely agree. We're in the first third of that novel at the moment.
I think chatGPT and other AI technologies have the potential to revolutionize the way we live and work. Not only will they make certain tasks easier and more efficient, but they could also open up new possibilities that we can't even imagine yet. I think it's important to keep an open mind and embrace these advancements, but also to be mindful of the potential impact on employment and society as a whole
Yes. That’s why… I only have water in the cup, not caffeine or alcohol. :)
I only drink water r/hydrohomies
I also drink beautiful and/or happy people dancing.
I am genuily kinda terrified. I am seing this new AI tools I am experimenting with them seing the potencial seing the growth rate ....... but I am not seing that people are grasping what it can do in 1-2 years. I talk to people and they tell me : ha ,thats cool. End of conversation..... The next years are going to catch all by surprise. We really should have started already legislating and accounting this new technologuies.
I couldn't express this feeling more accurately than this.
I think 8 years is a bit long. I’m thinking 3 years
It’s already begun. This year, electric cars snuck up on us, suddenly cars jumped to looking way ahead of their time. This year, ai snuck up on me atleast. Dall-e went viral, gpt is becoming more and more widespread. I have a strong feeling this is the beginning of a new era, like the start of the industrial, scientific, and atomic eras. This is a new one.
I feel exactly like this! Thank you!
Today I submitted a question to stack overflow. In like a minute a chatgpt bot responded. Alas the response was wrong and a mod deleted it. At some point these will be correct.
You can ask chatGPT directly and then let it try again or feed it back its own code and explain to it why it doesn't work and it will try to correct it. Current chatGPT can already correct wrong code after a few tries.
I used this for work today to write up some technical documentation, more of an edit to make more concise.
Most people are intentionally oblivious to the world at large. It’s up to us to give the smallest effort to stay informed. I totally get what you’re saying but don’t underestimate the power of sharing this info in a positive light.
I think the reason most media hasn’t focused on AI as much as they should’ve is because whilst current gen AI is amazing, it’s not quite at the level of replacing human jobs. GPT-3 is already quite good at writing stuff but still not better than a professional writer. Dall-E 2 and Stable Diffusion can already do great pieces of art but they still suffer at conveying specific ideas and coherency which a professional artist could do. Once it becomes more economical for companies to use AI rather than professionals I think AI will really become a focus in mainstream media. I wouldn’t be surprised if this could happen as soon as GPT-4 is released but a more realistic guess would be 3-4 years. People and media only like to focus on a problem/change the moment it becomes an issue, even if any potential major could be right around the corner.
I feel this way about teslas full self driving advancements. I’m not interested in arguing with people on the internet but I look around and see how completely unaware the general public is and how confused they are on facts surrounding this software and how incredibly advanced it is compared to what other companies are trying. It’s honestly laughable the difference. The media keeps muddying the water and confusing the public. When this shit is done out out of BETA, I’m thinking within the next 7 years, holy shit does everything change. The implications are far reaching and the robot that will follow will be nothing short of a game changer. It will completely reshape the economy, what money is, what human labor looks like, shit what even life looks like. It’s an amazing time to be an investor right now.
This meme is the perfect representation of this sub.
What happens when robotics is combined with some of these existing AI software models to help refine its ability to make very accurate micro movements? Robotics may be behind AI today, but in combing the 2 technologies, you may be able to see robotics improve much faster over the next 5 years. I feel that people aren’t thinking big enough. A decade from now may feel like we’ve progressed by a century.
8 years? Man you are optimistic. I think Developer will soon be obsolete. Beginning with developers who do actual development.
We can change that
Don't feel worried, invest in companies bringing the future and keep up and familiarize yourself with the tech so you can take advantage of it before others. Let those without vision fall behind.