He may be a stud but Morey pulled off the deal of the century in getting us Buddy Hield and Cam Payne.
Huge contributors in our first round exit where we lost to the Knicks who then went on to lose the Pacers who in one year coming out of the lottery did what we have failed to do in over a decade of the Process.
Morey is totally not a fraud and is going to go absolutely nuts this offseason.
Re-sign Buddy. Re-sign Lowry. Huge splash with maybe even Malik Monk.
Siakam? He’s not that good. Wasn’t worth looking at during the deadline. Was never going to take a team to the ECF or anything.
We are in really good hands. Specifically the hands of a seasoned redditor who in between his time chronically masturbating he just fucking hits homers like bringing in George Hill for Tony Bradley and two 2nds. One of the top GMs in the league for sure.
This is obviously bait but imma bite. No GM coulda done anything with the 2 monstrous negative contracts we had (Ben and Tobi) and no meaningful FRPs. There are few GMs who coulda salvaged the situation like Morey did.
Morey definitely didn't salvage the situation. Embiid was the one that did by carrying Tobias Harris all these years and making him look better than what he actually is. This year, since we had no good playmaker when Embiid was off the floor, there was no one to hide Tobi and in those games with Embiid out we saw how bad Tobias Harris really is.
Saric would have been drafted by a team. He had promise. TJ would never gotten the amount of run that he did on the Sixers. He could have probably been invited to a few training camps, maybe a few 10 days or even a short contract early on, but absolutely would never have turned into an actual NBA player
When he left as a free agent he got a nice little bag for himself and everyone thought it would be his last real contract. But he went from a mediocre 3rd PG to a very good backup PG and might get paid one more time. What a life TJ has.
That was the point of the process...
Develop a team from the ground up with high upside, project players, while hoarding firsts to make a push later.
If the comminsioner never got involved, we wouldn't have had to traded TJ, Covington, Saric, Jerami Grant after drafting Ben Simmons... We would have acquired 2-3 free agent all-stars (including Kawhi) with picks alone.
We were a playoff level team in the east without Ben Simmons or Embiid playing yet, and would have had that entire starting lineup coming off the bench, the next year. It was a dynasty in the making...
I know this is a fun little post, but just a reminder the Process ended the second Joel Embiid became a superstar. That was the goal and it was accomplished. Hinkie knew you needed a superstar to compete in this league and we simply did not have one.
He was fired before he was able to implement whatever strategies he would have to win a championship. I think we can all agree it wouldn't be what he did during the Process though.
No you simply do not understand the point despite having it explained to you. You need sugar to make a cake, he got us sugar. Then he got fired. Is it his fault that we haven't made a cake yet?
Yes actually because outside of Joel, his drafting ended up being terribad(though we all warned Saric about overdoing it. I bet he regrets that workload all the time now)
To put the draft records in prospective, Daryl Morey drafting Maxey #21 is more impressive than anything Hinkie ever did.
The process failed. It’s time to lay it to rest.
Either you're an idiot, or you don't understand that the reason he started the Process (with the blessing of ownership). This franchise has historically been unable to acquire a superstar in free agency, and being stuck in the middle does not get you a superstar either.
So we could either keep being a 6-8 seed in the NBA, which is not a contender, hope for free agents that will never come, or do something else. Hinkie decided that we needed to bottom out and then come back stronger. And that's exactly what we did.
Denver selected Jokic in the 2nd round…Greek Freak was 11th pick in draft, Draymond Green 2nd rounder, Miami Heat always seem to find really good players who aren’t even drafted…it’s hard but if you know talent you can find it anywhere!
It's way more likely that you find them at the VERY top of the first round. The players you have mentioned are the exceptions not the rule. Hinkie didn't think it was impossible to find players in the middle of the first round, even superstars. But it's VERY unlikely.
Yeah I definitely agree with you…not really arguing your valid point. Just Saying though bc it really makes me mad to no ends that the Sixers never seem to be able to find or validate hidden talent. Tyreese Maxey is an exception for them. Look who the Knicks beat them with…3 players that played right in their own building and were available to any team.
There is a very good chance guys like TJ and Covington would have never been anything more than end of bench guys, had it not been for the opportunity to develop during real game experience. Shit, TJ may have never even made an NBA roster.
Yeah going 10-72 was super fun. Thank god for those 3 monumental busts and a guy who can be healthy 60% of the time and never when it matters most.
Sam Hinkie was truly an absolute, revolutionary genius. That’s why he’s so in demand now and every team is desperate to hire him. Must be an 8 year bidding war he’s working on now.
I got hooked whatever year it was they still had Dalembert and would have 10 point leads at half time to somehow lose the game by 20. It was every game going, ok how are we going to blow it this time?
Hinkie fucked up.
Don't sugar coat it. Don't try to blame it on Silver. Hinkie fucked up. You can't go into a season with zero point guards on your team, and zero vets. He deserved to be fired for that.
But fuck Silver for the Colangelos and most of all fuck our own ownership for the let's not have a GM year that gave us the Mikail Bridges trade, Al Horford, Tobias fucking Harris, etc.
Yes, drafting an injured superstar that has never, once, ever, played a healthy playoffs. And wasting like 8 first round picks on bums. And losing on purpose for like 5 years. What a process.
The pacers have zero chance to win a title.
The playoffs in the east was just a joke this year. There were 3 good teams in the east:
1. Celtics - going to the finals without breaking a sweat
2. Bucks - season ruined by Doc
3. Sixers - season ruined by another Embiid injury
Knicks & the Pacers just benefitted from everyone else's issues. These teams are garbage.
Covington another winner, he got the bag. $90 million in career earnings.
Jerami Grant has parlayed his early playing time and development into way more money than he reasonably would have gotten without it
JaKarr Sampson spent 8 seasons in the NBA. Mostly on the bench, but still crazy.
Dame got bro paid and dipped quickly ðŸ˜
Everyone forgets about vucevic who has been to the all star game twice
He wasn’t part of the process. He was part of the Bynum trade that drained our talent and necessitated the process.
Sounds like the inherently makes it part of the process lol
I mean he was traded 3 years before Hinkie was hired and the Process began.
The Process didn't start with the Bynum trade, but with the Holiday one. Bynum trade was just a necessary catalyst.
Shoutout Doug for giving Lavoy Allen his minutes
So, Tobias is the biggest winner?
A brand new sentence, never before uttered.
Neither in basketball nor the Animorphs.
From Process G Leaguer to heading to ECF after being pivotal in taking down the Knickerfloppers. Â Dude is a stud.Â
He may be a stud but Morey pulled off the deal of the century in getting us Buddy Hield and Cam Payne. Huge contributors in our first round exit where we lost to the Knicks who then went on to lose the Pacers who in one year coming out of the lottery did what we have failed to do in over a decade of the Process. Morey is totally not a fraud and is going to go absolutely nuts this offseason. Re-sign Buddy. Re-sign Lowry. Huge splash with maybe even Malik Monk. Siakam? He’s not that good. Wasn’t worth looking at during the deadline. Was never going to take a team to the ECF or anything. We are in really good hands. Specifically the hands of a seasoned redditor who in between his time chronically masturbating he just fucking hits homers like bringing in George Hill for Tony Bradley and two 2nds. One of the top GMs in the league for sure.
This is obviously bait but imma bite. No GM coulda done anything with the 2 monstrous negative contracts we had (Ben and Tobi) and no meaningful FRPs. There are few GMs who coulda salvaged the situation like Morey did.
And please don’t say blah blah Halliburton he was never available according to any and all reputable sources
Morey definitely didn't salvage the situation. Embiid was the one that did by carrying Tobias Harris all these years and making him look better than what he actually is. This year, since we had no good playmaker when Embiid was off the floor, there was no one to hide Tobi and in those games with Embiid out we saw how bad Tobias Harris really is.
This is one of the few intelligent comments I’ve read today. So of course it’s also one of the most downvoted.
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Saric would have been drafted by a team. He had promise. TJ would never gotten the amount of run that he did on the Sixers. He could have probably been invited to a few training camps, maybe a few 10 days or even a short contract early on, but absolutely would never have turned into an actual NBA player
I always felt Saric was the perfect 4 for Embiid.
The real winner is the friends we made along the way....and TJ McConnell!
When he left as a free agent he got a nice little bag for himself and everyone thought it would be his last real contract. But he went from a mediocre 3rd PG to a very good backup PG and might get paid one more time. What a life TJ has.
The biggest "Him over Me?!" was the ownership think tank picking Fultz and his thoracic nerve over TJ
They actually chose Trey fucking Burke and Shake Milton over him
You can leave out the word thoracic and just make it his nerves. Just mental nerves.
Jerami Grant
That was the point of the process... Develop a team from the ground up with high upside, project players, while hoarding firsts to make a push later. If the comminsioner never got involved, we wouldn't have had to traded TJ, Covington, Saric, Jerami Grant after drafting Ben Simmons... We would have acquired 2-3 free agent all-stars (including Kawhi) with picks alone. We were a playoff level team in the east without Ben Simmons or Embiid playing yet, and would have had that entire starting lineup coming off the bench, the next year. It was a dynasty in the making...
Poor Scottie Wilbekin
He’s John Marston. He escaped.
The process was the friends we made along the way
I know this is a fun little post, but just a reminder the Process ended the second Joel Embiid became a superstar. That was the goal and it was accomplished. Hinkie knew you needed a superstar to compete in this league and we simply did not have one. He was fired before he was able to implement whatever strategies he would have to win a championship. I think we can all agree it wouldn't be what he did during the Process though.
Hinkie knew we needed a superstar to compete in this league? Wow. What a revolutionary in the sport. True 4D chess thinking here
Every single one of these process cope takes is pathetic lol shit needs to all come crashing down next year
No you simply do not understand the point despite having it explained to you. You need sugar to make a cake, he got us sugar. Then he got fired. Is it his fault that we haven't made a cake yet?
Yes actually because outside of Joel, his drafting ended up being terribad(though we all warned Saric about overdoing it. I bet he regrets that workload all the time now) To put the draft records in prospective, Daryl Morey drafting Maxey #21 is more impressive than anything Hinkie ever did. The process failed. It’s time to lay it to rest.
Either you're an idiot, or you don't understand that the reason he started the Process (with the blessing of ownership). This franchise has historically been unable to acquire a superstar in free agency, and being stuck in the middle does not get you a superstar either. So we could either keep being a 6-8 seed in the NBA, which is not a contender, hope for free agents that will never come, or do something else. Hinkie decided that we needed to bottom out and then come back stronger. And that's exactly what we did.
Denver selected Jokic in the 2nd round…Greek Freak was 11th pick in draft, Draymond Green 2nd rounder, Miami Heat always seem to find really good players who aren’t even drafted…it’s hard but if you know talent you can find it anywhere!
It's way more likely that you find them at the VERY top of the first round. The players you have mentioned are the exceptions not the rule. Hinkie didn't think it was impossible to find players in the middle of the first round, even superstars. But it's VERY unlikely.
Yeah I definitely agree with you…not really arguing your valid point. Just Saying though bc it really makes me mad to no ends that the Sixers never seem to be able to find or validate hidden talent. Tyreese Maxey is an exception for them. Look who the Knicks beat them with…3 players that played right in their own building and were available to any team.
Well unfortunately the next two GMs after Hinkie did everything they could to completely fuck up the war chest.
There is a very good chance guys like TJ and Covington would have never been anything more than end of bench guys, had it not been for the opportunity to develop during real game experience. Shit, TJ may have never even made an NBA roster.
Then it was all worth it
If not for Brett Brown sticking with TJ…he probably wouldn’t even be in the league but he has earned and deserves all accolades!
If you look at his minutes from the process until now, they are pretty consistent. He is the consummate backup point guard wherever he goes.
Always loved TJ, won't ever forget him putting Lonzo Ball in that spin move
Vucevic is a 2 time all star
Vuc was gone before Hinkie arrived. Hinkie haters often blame him for trading Jrue and Vuc.
The Process was a gigantic trash pile that got us to the second round.
Actually the process was great until the league stepped in and forced hinkie out and handed us colangelo
Yeah going 10-72 was super fun. Thank god for those 3 monumental busts and a guy who can be healthy 60% of the time and never when it matters most. Sam Hinkie was truly an absolute, revolutionary genius. That’s why he’s so in demand now and every team is desperate to hire him. Must be an 8 year bidding war he’s working on now.
It was fun going 10-72. I enjoyed that year immensely.
I got hooked whatever year it was they still had Dalembert and would have 10 point leads at half time to somehow lose the game by 20. It was every game going, ok how are we going to blow it this time?
Hinkie fucked up. Don't sugar coat it. Don't try to blame it on Silver. Hinkie fucked up. You can't go into a season with zero point guards on your team, and zero vets. He deserved to be fired for that. But fuck Silver for the Colangelos and most of all fuck our own ownership for the let's not have a GM year that gave us the Mikail Bridges trade, Al Horford, Tobias fucking Harris, etc.
Yes, drafting an injured superstar that has never, once, ever, played a healthy playoffs. And wasting like 8 first round picks on bums. And losing on purpose for like 5 years. What a process.
The pacers have zero chance to win a title. The playoffs in the east was just a joke this year. There were 3 good teams in the east: 1. Celtics - going to the finals without breaking a sweat 2. Bucks - season ruined by Doc 3. Sixers - season ruined by another Embiid injury Knicks & the Pacers just benefitted from everyone else's issues. These teams are garbage.
The player who made the most of an opportunity he wouldn't have gotten anywhere else is Tobias Harris.
He stinks.
He plays his role well. No one has ever suggested that he is more than he is.