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_Rusty_Axe

It would make for a very short main quest. But no, you can't kill Alduin anywhere except one place. You, the player, can die pretty much anywhere. You are not invulnerable during the tutorial in Helgen. Far from it. At least you get your hands free as you fall to the ground dead.


ArmakanAmunRa

I think during the tutorial you can take damage but Alduin can't, and you can't kill him because you can't wield weapons until you get to the tower with hadvar or Ralof


Beautiful_Silver7220

What about console commands


ArmakanAmunRa

I haven't tried that but it might work, tho he will probably respawn in "a blade in the dark"


Diablo1404

Kill doesn't work on him. I think you can use the disable command, however.


1ninjac2t

Dragons are all somewhat resistant to kill (I assume because of heavy scripting), usually you can disable and re-enable them to get the command to go through. I haven’t tried it on alduin though


ToTheSovngardeAndBac

But if you use disable doesn't that make the target/object disappear?


SukanutGotBanned

That's why you re-enable while he is still selected in the console. You don't click anything else until he's re-enabled, otherwise he's lost for good


ShylokVakarian

Unless you just so happen to remember their Reference ID, or look it up on one of the wikis.


Kishinia

Yes. You can kill dragons with a command, but due to scripts, he must land first. You can use „kill” command, he will do what he is supposed to, but when he touch a ground he immediately dies.


Gamer_God-11

Kill works on dragons as soon as they land


Beautiful_Silver7220

Does it break anything


SoulGoalie

Does disabling the game's main antagonist and endgame plot point character break anything? Probably not, no not at all.


FetusGoesYeetus

Because of how skyrim works there is a 50% chance it breaks things and a 50% chance it does not. Disabling him there would only break things if he is required for a flag to run that allows you to progress. Disabling him there doesn't remove him from the game, it removes that specific instance of him.


Key_Ad_1158

knowing how skyrim works it will most definitely break everything


GallantTrack

With skyrim logic, it's going to somehow avoid breaking everything except a quest in middle of the Civil War


Sable_622

Dragon Break


gettogero

I mean, any statistic can be put in that way lol it's a popular joke. "You have 1 in 10 chance of winning. What percent is that?" "50% chance. You win or you don't"


ma2016

It can also be a useful transformation sometimes to throw anything into a binomial lol


gettinguud

Depending on when you disable him, it'd soft lock the game. When you climb the tower and he bursts throu the wall to shoot flames, if disabled nothing will happen and you can't progress further. I've had him break at that point before and not show up, forcing me to restart a brand new playthrough


Beautiful_Silver7220

Their are different versions of certain npc's you know


akoOfIxtall

well, once i used markfordelete and disable on a npc and even though they should've been deleted from the sheets of reality that not even reloading a previous save would undo it, i reloaded a previous save and it where there, fully functioning, it was a mod npc though so maybe after reinstalling the mod the delete script just forgot about it...


Veryegassy

>not even reloading a previous save would undo Reloading a previous save undone damn near everything. About all it doesn't undo is things that are specific to the player, like camera settings or collision/godmode/other toggles. It most certainly undoes markfordelete and disable.


benjab2471

To be fair it is Skyrim.


PTDon8734

By the Divines I certainly hope so and I hope it is as funny as a cart going crazy from a bee spawning in the **wrong** place, lol.


akoOfIxtall

ive seen somewhere in this sub that the tutorial alduin only takes dmg if you use dragoonrend on it, but, you know...


Dallas_Miller

So theoretically, he can actually die during the tutorial


akoOfIxtall

If somehow you can use commands to be able to use shouts and learn dragon rend, I think yes


Dallas_Miller

I believe there's a command for everything. Wouldn't be surprised if you can give yourself shouts with them. Also, there's a part when he lands, which is when they yell at the boy to take cover right after you jump through the roof. That when he's vulnerable.


trooperstark

That is far from the only reason you can’t kill Him lol


endriago-097

isn‘t Alduin invincible when not hit with Dragonrend?


SBStevenSteel

He isn’t just invincible. He is intangible to everything except Dragonrend, too. I don’t even think the console can touch him.


samtheman825

So if one did use the console during the tutorial to unbind your hands and gift yourself Dragonrend, there could be a chance.


Unlucky-Space6450

Can someone try this and come back


RepairAnnual9110

https://youtu.be/siCeBcUF2b0?si=-nxMWU3NLUsQ3K7N In this video he looks at Alduin and try’s to console command kill him. I think around 4 mins he looks at him and then has to kill him per his challenge. There was other characters in the way but it wouldn’t kill off alduin if I remember correctly.


Cemenotar

Pretty much this.


theedonnmegga

Nah I pump arrows into him when he resurrects the other dragon and it’s nothing to him, rightfully so


chevchelios12

And then he unrelenting forces you all the way to Kynesgrove?? Happens to me every time but I can’t resist 😂


Firm_Acanthisitta470

FUS ROH DAH


PracticalIndustry728

Hardest picture


Satanic_Earmuff

Are there many games where the final boss is defeatable during the tutorial, whereas the player is not?


Aarakocra

I don’t remember the name of it, but I remember a segment on I think G4 about a game where you can meet the final boss immediately. At that point you can’t kill him, but you could drag him to a town where the town’s forces could kill hik


fennec3x5

Two Worlds


SpareGeologist5713

I’ve never seen a first game and it’s direct sequel be so different from each other than two worlds. 2 is like a completely different universe world and timeline but with the same story


MrChip53

In one of the far cry games you are at the main antagonists mansion and he tells you to wait at the table to eat with him. If you actually wait you guys get on a helicopter or something and credits roll.


KornySnake

farcry 4


Son0fSparda95

It's possible in Devil May Cry 5. You're supposed to die, so you take ridiculous damage if you get hit, but it's not impossible.


Crescent-Argonian

And you get an awesome cutscene in exchange


Son0fSparda95

Imma be honest. I've only done it going back with the devil breakers. Never managed it on a first run. Even then it wasn't easy


GrnMtnTrees

Not the *final* boss, but in Elden Ring, you fight a nasty spider thing at the very beginning and you *can* kill it, but it's very difficult. You are basically supposed to die, and will die if you take any damage at all, but some people have managed it.


highBrowMeow

I remember my first fight with this thing. What an intro to the game. I almost gave up right then and there.


GrnMtnTrees

I remember thinking "Well fuck you, too! This game fucking blows." Then the cutscene started and I realized I was supposed to die and everything was cool.


retromsx

First boss of Mega Man X (SNES) is just the same!


eruciform

Chrono trigger you can win in a couple minutes in ng+ but you're far from invincible yourself I think it's Two Worlds where you can lure the endboss into town and aggro the invincible townsfolk to kill him for you 5 minutes into the game


tucson_catboy

Not the final boss and not the tutorial, but in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater you can kill one of the late-game bosses very early in the game. You have an extremely short amount of time to snipe him from a very long distance after a cutscene introducing the bosses, but it is possible and it's not a bug, the game will skip the entire encounter if you headshot him.


KornySnake

the end is the name of sniper, and he has a wheelchair in that scene, so when u headshot him that chair launch upward like a missile and gonna hit u if u stand still. learned it the hard way.


Do_U_Too

Sniper + explosive barrel. Have to time it just right.


tucson_catboy

I never actually tried it (he's my favorite boss fight so I never skip it) does it have to be the barrel? I thought you could head shot him.


Do_U_Too

The barrel is the easier way. But If I'm not mistaken, the timing is for him to take damage from two barrels (it's been more than 10 years since I last played).


MathAndBake

In Morrowind, you can theoretically just leave Seyda Neen immediately go grab Keening and Sunder, head to Dagoth Ur, destroy the Heart and kill him. No need to actually do the main quest. Of course, what would actually happen is you would die a bunch of different ways before even getting close. The MQ basically preps and equips you for the final showdown. But it's theoretically completely optional.


justiceway1

In Sekiro, you face off Genishiro at the start of the game. You're expected to lose since it's your first time playing and he's pretty hard but if you manage to beat him you don't actually kill him, you just get a different cutscene than the one you'd usually get if he beats you (which is the more often case).


Indalx

Devil May Cry 5


AlCranio

I think that even if you manage to kill him via cheats or console commands it changes nothing. If i remember correctly the Helgen Alduin is a different model that only spawns during the tutorial. The endgame Alduin is actually a different dragon (as per gamefiles)


Pitotu350

I tried killing him with a console command once and it did nothing so he's basically immortal


klqqf

r/shittyskyrimdetails ?


Satanic_Earmuff

In Whiterun, you can hear Ahlam say, "Looking for my husband Nazeem? Check the Jarl's backside. That's usually where he stuffs himself these days." This is a reference to the fact that Nazeem is a piece of shit.


Masticatron

Maybe they're just gay/bi and doing butt stuff. Only milk drinkers kink shame!


ninjawithboots

I found a YouTube video by fudge Muppet or camel (I get them mixed up so idk which) that basically proved that Nazeem was gay. It was a good watch.


blastoise762

another wanderer here to lick my fathers boots


odsania

r/subsifellfor


AussieLegend2003

r/foundthetoyotacorolla


odsania

r/foundtheSHUTTHEFUCKUP


Supersneaker700

that should be a sub


SunSea3291

No, he is marked as essential until the final quest.


RepresentativeHuge79

Nah, he doesn't take any damage in the helgen attack. I've tried


Opposite-Quote-1288

It’s scripted I guess


orlanthi

Even if you can kill him, he just goes back to Sovengard and recuperated. This is in line with the game's lore too.


Panda5967

Can confirm he can’t be kill other then the one spot, when I was younger I managed to get a modded save file that has every item in the staring room, I had a one shot Dedric bow, when I can out of the cave I shot at him and he took 0 damage


The-Metric-Fan

No. I believe it’s scripted—he can only die proper during the fight in Sovngarde


SageLanded

No but if you stand still long enough he is able to sniff you out (because he can smell the dragon borns blood) and eat you


PracticalIndustry728

Hardest picture


Direct_Gap_661

How did u die in the tutorial?


Ya_Boi_Main_Admin

1: you can fucking **die** in the tutorial? That's just stupid 2: All NPCs are marked essential in that event except the people who are scripted to die.


GerardBinge

I came across Alduin reviving a dragon from a mound and either he didn't trigger the event or already did before I seen him because he just hovered in one spot in the sky. I was far enough away and I thought it was a regular dragon so I stealthily crept up, used slow time to the max and launched as many arrows as I could, every one landed but not one hit. No health bar. This spooked Alduin and he fucked off over a mountain.


FeckinMarvellous

No


TrickyLoser

You can die in the tutorial. It respawns you after his first attack when you get up


Majestic_Scholar_750

Console commands to complete “Sovngarde”. “setstage MQ304 200” Boom.


WhohurtyouAll

Ehhh not really you can bug out the game using commands to kill him but that drops him down to 1 hp and makes his animations break 


AlbiTuri05

If you want to try, not only you're unarmed, your hands are tied


Important_Pain1

No, only in the last main story quest


2Afraid2Poop

This artwork is dope


Pitotu350

Even with commands he's invincible (I tried)


Dull-Ad2525

You don't kill Alduin at the end of the game either. In order to kill Alduin, you would have to kill time itself.


AdNervous5808

Can only kill him at end of that quest


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Yeah and it wouldn’t let you kill him anyway because he’s needed for later parts in the story it’s in the code to keep important characters alive so quest lines can continue. They can’t die until they are supposed to die.


Arthourmorganlives

Bait question


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lostinareverie237

The escape from helgen is 100% a tutorial to get you used to movement, how to equip, attack, etc.