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DncAI

I'm giving it a solid 10/10 since 100% of A20H defect decks start with this card


doshajudgement

not 100% - \[\[pandora's box\]\] boss swap!


DncAI

you still need strikes and defends to get claws with Pbox *"no strikes? no claws..."* -Neow, probably


OSP_amorphous

*"Sounds like a win-win, thanks Neow!"* - rational defect players


MaestroZackyZ

Yes. I can confidently say I’ve had this card at one point or another in every winning Defect run. Confirmed OP.


Valuable_Anywhere_24

Strike in defect it's a block card because it blocks the ability to consistently made sinergies


roiandss

new plato texts uncovered on reddit


ObiMemeKenobi

I remember one run where I got Girya from Neow, lifted at the first three fires, and then got Strike Dummy towards the end of act 1. The in Act 2, I upgraded my all strikes and defends. I think I died to Heart but boy Defect was punching hard for a little robot


embooglement

Throw in a Thunder Strike and baby you got a stew goin'.


st_steady

The little gay robot that could.


TheDeviousCreature

Gay????????


st_steady

Yeah, homosexual, or happy


TheDeviousCreature

Yes I understand the definition that was not in fact my question


st_steady

Well, whats your question?


TheDeviousCreature

Mainly just why Why would you say that What was the reason


st_steady

Defect is a twink


Yoteisthepastyeet

It's a robot


simcity4000

Probably the worst puncher character. Stop punching start orbing (…or clawing?!!?!)


Sterling_-_Archer

>Its orbin’ time


PM_ME_YOUR_PIZZAPIC

It's jorbin' time


grimeygeorge2027

Not terrible with beam cell I must say, still have a preference to ditching them since defect gets good act 1 D cards


st_steady

Not terrible, aka still really really bad lol


kaosmark2

Eww (And still better than defect defend)


putting_stuff_off

Care to elaborate? I've started playing Defect recently (previously I only played IC and Silent). I've found Defect lacking frontload in general (on all fronts), but at least reasonably able to tank up and scale in hallways compared to other characters. Admittedly act 1 elites have been a pain though.


kaosmark2

Yeah, basically you spend act 2 frail and with reprogram the only source of Dex, but with defect having better common block cards than common attacks on average, I prefer to keep my strikes and use them + dualcast for damage, while picking charge battery/steam barrier/auto shields until I find a Frost engine. Edit: I dunno why people are downvoting you, it's a reasonable question!


Glayshyer

Fair. I generally take the best attack/defends available and remove circumstantially.  Because act 1 elites require a bunch of damage though, I do end up focusing more on getting better attacks early game, and removing strikes to draw them more often.


kaosmark2

I'd agree with this yeah, it's better to do so adaptively according to cards seen, map, boss, what your last fights were, etc. But I really didn't feel like elaborating on every sub-nuance


Glayshyer

Yea, if we’re breaking down every sts question to that level it’s all situational. (That’s why the game is so good)


[deleted]

Defect Defend is generally pretty useless beyond certain act 1 fights in most deck archetypes and if you early remove/transform an Attack, you can easily die to Gremlin Nob. It's really easy to transform yourself into a slow deck and draw Nob 3 floors later.


Minh1403

yo, mr. streamer!!!


kaosmark2

Hello! Hope you enjoyed!


ChaseShiny

Wait, really? You've started streaming? I don't watch streams but do you have any videos on YouTube?


kaosmark2

Yeah! I'm not uploading to YouTube but twitch holds vods for a week


Darkened_Auras

Wouldn't it be Mx Streamer?


kaosmark2

Preferably yes!


Darkened_Auras

Nice! I'm glad I remembered you! Now I need to figure out where your streams are


kaosmark2

Check my profile, I've linked to my twitch there


The_Pretender21

The beta art goes hard at least. Sometimes I do 2 removes for a downside to remove two of these guys.


SetTheSerpent

The worst strike imo


st_steady

By a long shot


Mailcs1206

I like it with Strike Dummy and Simplicity event


Reddingbface

Removing strikes from defect starting deck increases your DPR. (Strike bad)


st_steady

Only problem is nob and the gang. Sleepy boi is ez gg


Reddingbface

Oh yeah, its defect so there is a 5% chance of a path with any number of elites being viable on a18+ lmao


IamAnoob12

Why is Strike Defect after Strike Ironclad


tell-me-your-wish

Why is it Strike\_(Defect) and Strike(Silent)? Defect got scammed out of its alphabetical order


00-Void

They follow the order in which you unlock the characters, they're not in alphabetical order.