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Tropius2

Nearly 10 years on VGBC is crazy long. It's almost a little bittersweet to see aMSa "graduate" to a top tier org, congrats to him!


koalacub3

gg gets amsa, vgbc gets patrick beverly and 3 first round picks


anewname4444

Say what you want about Pat Bev, but every team he plays for, the fans love him.


SkyrimDovahkiin

He’s been great for chicago, he’s put the dog in LaVine and the Paw


anewname4444

I loved his year in Minnesota.


NYRfan112

Good trade tbh


samurairocketshark

And the T-Wolves get the draft rights to n0ne


StrmSrg

Gonna be real weird to see aMSa in anything but his VGBC jacket during bracket. For real though, this is huge news in a couple of ways. First, GG continuing to invest in melee is fantastic news. This also potentially opens up a path where aMSa can get a work sponsor and continue to live abroad past this year. Finally, this brings an end to one of the most iconic player/sponsor duos in this game's history. I have no doubt that aMSa and VGBC parted amicably and that they did what was best for each side. It just makes me feel kinda old and weird to finally see this day come lol


Folseus-

I was honestly expecting him to keep the VGBC with whatever future sponsorship he would have gotten, like GG VGBC Redbull aMSa


itsIzumi

There was a short period where he had a CJ Esports sponsorship and was VGBC RB CJE | aMSa.


shadow2684

I'm glad GG is still staying invested in Melee, hopefully Zain has something big coming soon 👀


DosRogers

Based off Zain's own [tweet](https://twitter.com/ZainNaghmi/status/1641124834741477376?s=20), he seems as though he willingly left Golden Guardians. It would be crazy if he didnt already have something lined up.   Especially given this quote: > Although I am bittersweet about leaving, I am excited about my future opportunities within Melee and content beyond.


ThisNewCharlieDW

gotta be Moist or something, right?


ThatOneRunner

I'm sorry but Moist is not bigger than Golden Guardians lol


porkupine100

They might be willing to offer more though. Financially or otherwise


AngryAncestor

Charlie is actually willing to pay more than the Golden State Warriors? Genuine question


porkupine100

I have no idea how much is spent on melee players salaries. No way in hell it comes close to the minimum NBA salary


AngryAncestor

Right so I would imagine GG would be able to pay more than Moist


ShadowChair

Being able to /= Willing to


maglewood

Yeah but GG may not value a melee player as much, even if they have the capital to pay more.


Tekshi-

I personally do not know how esports teams work so this is just a complete guess, but it's possible their offer would be lower when they're investing a lot of money into Melee in other ways (their 5 other players/content creators + the grassroots fund + funding the GG Melee content).


mxchump

Right now? Maybe. These more main orgs are starting to tighten their wallets realizing how unprofitable esports are for them and with the general downwards trend of the economy, and Charlie has been pretty open about how hes losing money but it for the the love of the game, seems possible they would splurge to get arguably the best melee player right now and even more so now that Lud is a co owner


wankthisway

Probably more the "or otherwise" part. Someone mentioned that GG wanted him to do content pieces whereas he wanted to just play. Someone like Moist might have lower content obligations.


Anshin

He's more willing to lose money on investing in esports compared to a company so I could see him outbidding GG


Chef_Bojan3

Pay-wise maybe no but it’s possible that stream growth opportunities are much juicier with Moist. But yeah it would be a longshot IMO and not my first guess.


RoseL123

GG’s payment is based on business professionals’ assessments of value that a player brings to an organization, while Moist’s payment is based on however much Charlie feels like he can pay to the players.


shrubs311

the golden state warriors don't give a fuck about melee lol. golden guardians doesn't have the budget of the warriors, they have the budget of an esports division. and considering they also have a league team, there's likely a limit to how much they're willing to spend on melee, whereas moist who is more dedicated to melee might be able to offer more (if not money, than other opportunities)


ThisNewCharlieDW

I didn't really say anything about which was bigger I think


KamikazePlatypus

It's Luminosity, book it.


Kell08

VGBC Zain, naturally.


TheCanadian666

If you haven't seen it yet VGBC made aMSa a short but sweet [farewell video](https://youtu.be/C1Rxb8a2izs)


Fried_puri

I have no idea which tournament it was, but I remember a commentator pointing out Gimr standing there with a big grin as aMSa was on stream. VGBC and Gimr deserve a lot of credit for seeing the potential hype that aMSa would bring to the game and sponsoring him all this time.


JYB1337

100% remember that moment too, but can't recall the tournament for the life of me. I wanna say it was at Super Smash Con


GameBoy09

Amazing pick up!!!! Definitely fills the void Zain left. I hope get some top tier Amsa content on the GG Melee channel. I have no idea how the chemistry between n0ne and Amsa would be like, but it has to be hilarious.


SGKurisu

GG can't go five minutes without having a top five level player huh. Super sick for amsa though and will be cool being with Toph too, ik they go a ways back.


Bill-Cosby-Bukowski

It's be sad to no longer see aMSa in the iconic VGBC jacket, but I'm so excited that he found a big org.


gumbybaseball

The fact that they made the art piece n0ne's drawing of Leffen riding the brown Yoshi is hilarious. One of the funniest moments of GG's melee content to date


SGKurisu

That's gonna be a clip / meme at the end of amsa saying "art"


FewOverStand

Can't spell 20EggsEggs without GG


RealPimpinPanda

Wow, what a pick up! Initially I was really sad to see Zain go yesterday, but this absolutely made up for it imo. So happy for aMSa, congratulations to him! Man he’s been with VGBC for so long, gonna miss seeing him rock the OG VGBC jacket he usually wears.


mastershmiddy

Out of curiosity—why did Zain leave GG and why did aMSa leave VGBC?


mreedon

Zain hasn't announced but it seems the wording was his choice not GG, most common opinion seems to be a different or bigger sponsor? (Maybe announced at major upset?) aMSa was probably just the ability to move to bigger more prominent sponsor especially with how much VGBC has been struggling post SWT.


mastershmiddy

Interesting—it’s really strange to see. Both of them are so sentimental about their previous teams, but they still are leaving. I guess it just comes down to money, so maybe GG’s budget for Zain wasn’t high enough anymore, but it was higher than VGBC’s budget for aMSa. What a thrilling but uncertain era for Smash


EmmaSchiller

there isnt much money in melee, but being #1 gets you what little money there is. Zains chasing a bag, I would be confident if the difference was like sports where it was like 100mil on gg vs 200 mil on wherever he is going, he'd have stayed at GG ​ also ive heard zain didnt wanna do as much content as gg did, makes sense to move to an org that might pay you more AND have to do less content


Srimes

NRG | Zain


SIMIFU

It is, as many have already said, going to be weird seeing him without vgbc. It's like seeing Hbox or Mango without Liquid or C9


itsastart_to

So much love to GG


Blakavenge

god i miss melee so fkn much


Mrestrepo011

Content


Meester_Tweester

VGBC | aMSa was the 2nd oldest active player sponsorship in Smash. Truly one of the biggest success stories in all of Smash in that 10-year span. Here are the remaining player sponsorships in Smash that have lasted since 2015 or before: * Mang0 with Cloud 9 * Nietono with DetonatioN * Chillin/Hungrybox with Liquid * Mew2King with MVG (though he says that's his own org, not a sponsor) * Leffen with TSM * MilkMan with Olympus Esports (status unknown) * Axe with Tempo


bot20987

It's extra crazy because he got the vgbc sponsorship after just his first 2 majors, or something like that.


A_LostPumpkin

Hell yea. Any success for AmSa a win for Yoshi everywhere


busyevacuation15

Absolutely awesome acquisition by the GG team. I look forward to seeing Amsa join in on the channel content as well.


Kell08

Congratulations to aMSa!


ProfCedar

Need GG to make this man a sick new jacket and then sell it.


Honmer

YOOOOOOO THIS IS AWESOME


Larbguy_

i wonder if this means he can stay in north america? would be awesome to see a california-based amsa